Friday, 6 November 2015

By on November 6th, 2015 in Jen, weekly prepping

08:40 – Another murder/suicide in Winston-Salem. The guy shot and killed his wife and then himself. I think we need a training course for these people. How often do I have to say it? Order is critical. Shoot yourself in the head first. THEN shoot your victim.

Email from Jen. They’ve completed the arrangements for their trial run over the long Thanksgiving weekend. Jen wanted to introduce as much uncertainty as possible, so she’s done something rather clever: using sealed envelopes and random drawings to simulate unexpected events. For example, they plan to simulate an attack on their home at some point during the trial, but Jen wanted both the timing and the outcome of that attack to be unknown to all of them going into the weekend. So she made a series of dated envelopes, one of which they’ll open each evening. She also made a series of folded sheets of paper, all but one of which say “no attack” and one of which says “attack occurs”. She then put them in a hat, drew them out, put each of them in an envelope, and sealed it. They’ll open one each evening, and won’t know about the attack until it’s actually imminent. Same thing for casualties among her group. They won’t find out which of their group are killed or injured until the attack occurs and they open the appropriate envelope. Then they’ll have to deal with one or more of their group being hors de combat and figure out how to deal with that person or those people being unavailable to help. They might, for example, lose their primary medical person (Jen’s husband, a veterinarian) or their primary cook. Presumably, “casualties” will spend the rest of the weekend observing and taking notes but not otherwise contributing to the effort. I did suggest that they not actually bury any of their “casualties”.

Here’s what I did to prep this week:

  • Our relocation finally seems to be on track. Our offer on the house up in Sparta has been accepted. We’re getting inspections and so on scheduled and we have a closing date scheduled.
  • I put in about three full days on the prepping book. It’s starting to shape up.
  • I finished reading John Ross’s Unintended Consequences. It’s huge, and it’s so pro-gun and anti-government that I’m surprised that Ross is still alive and not in federal prison.

So, what precisely did you do to prepare this week? Tell me about it in the comments.


99 Comments and discussion on "Friday, 6 November 2015"

  1. nick says:

    Before starting, here’s a link.

    NOT. LIKE. US.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3306284/Boy-9-shot-dead-walking-grandmother-s-house-lured-alley-executed-gang-feud.html

    These are who you will be facing about a day after the food runs out. They are organized. Some of them CAN hit what they’re aiming at. They are vicious killers. They don’t give a fukc about you.

    nick

    ADDED: someone at the MinProp screwed up and let this get published with the words “gang violence” instead of the required “gun violence.” Wonder if it will stay up? Interesting exercise to watch…

    post in mindset, defense, savages

  2. Dave says:

    I got One Second After from the library and read it. When I took it back, I picked up Ted Koppel’s Lights Out, but haven’t had a chance to read it yet.

    From your comments about Unintented Consequences, I guess that has the next spot on my reading list.

  3. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I’d recommend reading Lights Out first. In fact, both Lights Out, the one by Koppel and the one by Crawford.

  4. Dave says:

    I am a voracious reader of fiction, so I’ll probably read both works of fiction before I finish Koppel’s book. I picked up a copy of Red October in the airport and finished reading it at 3 AM.

  5. nick says:

    WDIDTPTW?

    Had my last class session in the police familiarization course. The ridealong. Spent a couple of hours on a quiet night riding with and observing a young deputy. 3 years on the job, still loves it. We did a sample of normal patrol activities, neighborhood patrol, traffic stop, run plates on a suspicious vehicle, vacation check on a house, vandalism check on a neighborhood pool.

    On the traffic stop (pickup did a ‘California rolling stop’ at the sign on a 3 way stop, in a subdivision) the driver jumped out of his truck and pretty rapidly approached the squad car. He had both hands empty and visible, but it was still pretty quick and aggressive. That made for a tense moment, I can testify. The deputy quickly got out of the car, ordered him back to his vehicle, popped his head in and said that he knew this guy and had interacted with him before, so he wasn’t super concerned. The deputy still did all the safety things they do… and the stop was uneventful.

    The time passed very quickly, even though it was a very quiet night. Deputy was definitely a ‘gun guy.’ Not all cops are, probably not even most, so it was nice to have a chance to chat.

    The class has been a very challenging and educational experience and I’d recommend to anyone to find something similar.

    The garden has sprouted and continues to grow. The lettuce in the ‘window boxes’ will provide a salad this weekend. Pretty much all the ‘vine on the ground’ type plants have rotted thru the stems and died. Clearly I’m doing something wrong with them (squash, pumpkins, watermelon, etc) They seem to do well, even put out flowers and start to fruit, then they rot where the stem enters the dirt, and they die. So I’ll be putting some cabbage or collards in that part of the bed. Try try try again. Maybe it’s just been too wet.

    Tried some new canned veg. The collard greens were really good. With added bacon, and a bit of butter, they were within a tiny distance of as good as fresh. If you’ve never had collards, they grow well, and even taste good out of a can. Give them a try. I like the “Kickin Collard Greens” at allrecipes . com http://allrecipes.com/recipe/51803/kickin-collard-greens/ as a dark green leafy veg, they are full of the good stuff.

    (No one in my family had ever eaten collards before I grew them. Now we all love them.)

    I’ve been sorting and shelving canned and stored food. I’m definitely overweight in some areas and under in others. Our eating habits have changed in the last year, and we are using a lot less of some things like jelly and milk and a lot more of mayo and ketchup. Moral of the story, take a look at what you may be buying from habit, see if it is still appropriate.

    If you don’t wear a watch any longer, put one with easy to read face and a second hand with your big first aid kits. You’ll need it for pulse, respiration rate, time of treatment, etc. Just strap it around the handle on the kit.

    Time to change the batteries in your smoke and co detectors. Check that watch in the drawer too. Take a look at your fire extinguishers pressure indicator too. Maybe buy another for the garage/workshop/etc to join the ones you ALREADY have– poke.

    If you’ve got a shortwave radio “just in case” take it out each night this week, around 10pm, and tune around the bands. If you are getting a lot of noisy interference, adjust the antenna shorter or longer, or step outside. If the buzz gets louder when you touch the antenna, there is definitely a local noise source. If you aren’t getting anything, touch the antenna to a piece of wire, any wire will do. 30 feet of even cat5 or bell wire, or literally anything should get you some stations. Around 4.840 Mhz you might hear the Alex Jones show. Around 6.o and 6.2 you might hear Radio Havana (for southern US listeners, no idea what folks in the rest of the country will hear.) Around 17.5 New Zealand is often a good strong signal. Most of what you hear will probably be spanish language or religious, but tune around anyway. Band conditions vary so give it a try several nights. You might find that your compact radio is nearly impossible to tune in the SW bands. The stations are just too close together (with huge swaths of freq that have nothing in betweeen. http://www.shortwaveschedule.com/index.php?now=true will help you figure out what you are hearing. At least try for the time stations a 5.0, 10.0, 15.0

    If that little radio proves to be useless, look for a more ‘lunchbox’ sized older radio, or a digitally tuned radio. My normal listening radio has been running on the same d cell batteries since March. I listen a couple hours a week. Many good radios on ebay… The point is, test your gear!

    In other areas, sales look weak this weekend, and I’ve got a big list of stuff that has been slipping due to weather and family commitments, so maybe I’ll do that stuff, and save the shopping for another time.

    keep stackin’ folks

    nick

  6. Chad says:

    The collard greens were really good. With added bacon, and a bit of butter…

    Isn’t it amazing how bacon and butter have that effect on things? 🙂

  7. nick says:

    Yup! and Costco sells the bags of bacon crumbs, shelf stable until opened.

    They are very versatile. Add some to a fried egg, or an egg sandwich. Scramble some into your eggs or omelet. Add to green beans, red beans, pink beans, add to a cream sauce for pasta, or just scoop onto toast for an impromptu BLT.

    We use them every day.

    nick

  8. dkreck says:

    Can’t call it ‘Gun Violence’ when it’s a knife. UC Merced knife attack was an 18 year old moslim. Currently being welcomed by 72 virgins.

  9. DadCooks says:

    @RBT – Your survival seed competition really hasn’t a clue, this is just one of the better examples (on Amazon Lightning Deal this morning for $31.97):
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BZLP0NK

    After looking at several of these on Amazon (the ones on the web have skeezy/sleezy websites, IMHO), a common comment is that the number of seeds is small particularly for items like corn, beans, squash, and tomatoes. Many complaints about no or low germination. Of course the packaging is a joke.

    If I had not been cultivating my own set of heirloom seeds for the past 36 years (by now well selected to be very productive in my specific location) I would take you up own your generous offer survival seed offer.

    It is important that people get experienced with gardening. As with all things, practice makes perfect. Learning what to do to garden to survive is not something you can start cold turkey.

    This week I have finalized my preparations for this Winter. Plugged in the heated birdbath on Monday and Tuesday morning was greeted with our first freeze, a hard one down to 20°F.

  10. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Yeah, that’s why I decided to do the seed kits in the first place. I have a can of Augason Farms seeds in storage, but I wasn’t really happy with either the selection or the quantities. A total of only one pound of seeds, a total of 8,000 seeds, and a lot of worthless stuff like lettuce. Looking at that #10 can, I decided it was pointless to order four or five more of them just to have reasonable quantities of seeds. So I decided to pack my own kit for our own use. As long as I was doing that, I figured I might as well offer it to readers of the book, once it’s published.

    I ended up with just over six pounds of seeds, 125,000+ total seeds, and a far better selection. I figure that in the real world that should let us produce about as much as the Augason Farms kit does in ideal conditions and with great good luck.

  11. dkreck says:

    Finally feels like fall here. Currently 47F with a high of 67F expected. Turned the furnace on on Tuesday and we had some rain! This and early spring are the most comfortable time of year here in the sunny San Joaquin Valley.

  12. dkreck says:

    Obummer to reject Keystone pipeline. Shocked!

  13. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] No one in my family had ever eaten collards before I grew them. Now we all love them. [snip]
    What is wrong with y’all?

    [snip] Time to change the batteries in your smoke and co detectors. Check that watch in the drawer too. Take a look at your fire extinguishers pressure indicator too. [snip]
    Smoke detectors are January 1 & July 4; easy to remember holidays. No CO detector, as nothing in the house is supposed to burn. All four fire extinguishers get checked once per week, a habit from my business owner days.

  14. Lynn says:

    “Obama rejects Keystone XL, saying pipeline wouldn’t create many jobs, lower gas prices or boost U.S. energy security”
    http://fuelfix.com/blog/2015/11/06/obama-administration-expected-to-reject-keystone-xl/#30877101=0

    Just remember some day when you are sitting in a gasoline line, in your empty car or truck, that Obola rejected a chance to improve our infrastructure and add needed jobs to our failing economy. High paying, union jobs.

    Obola is a Fool!

  15. nick says:

    OMG!! !!!1@1!!!

    GLOBUL WARMENNINNG!!!!!

    Just think of the CHILDREN!!11!!!!

    Yup, Obola citing global warming as his reason.

    // begin homer simpson voice //

    “Glooobull warming, is there anything it CAN’T do?”

    // end homer simpson voice //
    nick

  16. MrAtoz says:

    Obola is a Fool!

    +1,000,000

    Weakest leader evah!

  17. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Actually, I don’t think he’s as bad as Abraham Lincoln and FDR, both of whom did more damage to this country than Obama has. And that’s saying something.

  18. OFD says:

    A historical summary of why we are where are today:

    http://www.garynorth.com/public/14465print.cfm

    And some stuff on the Euro situation, which he seems to think can’t happen here:

    http://www.garynorth.com/public/14458print.cfm

    Mr. North hits the nail on the head frequently in regard to political, social and economic matters and he doesn’t beat us over the head with his religious beliefs, so I let those slide; they’re kinda wacky, IMHO.

    My take on our situation here is that our “guilt and pity” inducing underclass, immigrants and native-born, is already here, with more masses crossing our southern border daily. And now we basically have half the country paying for and supporting the other half, which, by the way, includes the infamous One Percent, who continue taking an increasingly larger cut of the proceeds.

    Overcast today and VERY windy with rain squalls; outside work is not gonna get done; so back to the kitchen and upstairs for major cleanup and reorganization.

    Ate our last tomato last night and reflected that tomatoes and a few herbs were our only successful crops this year; pumpkins and peppers were a bust. This next year I’ll work on root crops in addition to the tomatoes and herbs; carrots, turnips, garlic, beets, etc.

    Prep stuff done was mostly out in the yard with the raised beds and rear perimeter this past week; continued PT, ham radio license study, planning the configs of the attic workshop and cellar storage, researching how we can beef up front-of-the-house security, and am also building a radio go-bag to go along with the other emergency bail-out bag that I tote with the vehicles.

    Thanks for reminders, Mr. nick; a looming big priority is re-establishing our smoke detector and fire extinguisher setups.

    Mrs. OFD is gonna have three pay checks pending, large chunks of which are going to bills, a couple of them overdue, and more financial support for Princess in Montreal. We also have the living room ceiling to finish and a cordwood delivery coming the day before Thanksgiving, which of course means stacking it all right away and covering it.

    I’d really like to replace the back door ASAP; it’s in increasingly crummy shape. Will try to persuade her on that and hey, may as well do the front one, too, eh? The remaining half of the windows will get replaced in the spring, and by then we’ll have a pretty tight and cozy house heated entirely with wood. Now ask me how, if TSHTF conditions persist, and no firewood deliveries via truck, we’re going to locate, cut, load and haul firewood back here; I foresee hardship. Barely doable at 62 with a lot of effort and pain, what about at 72 or 82?

  19. OFD says:

    “Actually, I don’t think he’s as bad as Abraham Lincoln and FDR, both of whom did more damage to this country than Obama has.”

    + 1,000

    I’d throw LBJ in with them, though. And Professor Wilson. Second tier, anyway.

  20. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Agreed. Wilson was a disgusting man, an extreme racist and a prog. LBJ was purely a criminal in more than one sense. He comes the closest to an actual gangster who’s ever held the office. But Lincoln and FDR are in a class by themselves.

  21. Dave says:

    Yes, but the country could have survived Lincoln. But not with Wilson, FDR, LBJ and Obama added to the mix. I fear President Obama will be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Either that or we’re just now figuring out that LBJ did it 50 years ago.

  22. nick says:

    @ofd,

    livestock?

    4 wheeler?

    motorbike?

    nick

  23. DadCooks says:

    The Kentucky Governor Elect talks like he has a pair:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/06/incoming-kentucky-gov-matt-bevin-tells-epa-to-pound-sand/

    I would like to see him succeed, might just be the start we need to restore the 10th Amendment. Yes, I am a States Rightest.

    I would like to tell you all what I think of the Big-Ass-O, but High Crimes and Misdemeanors says it all for me. Oh, and the same goes for the Legislative and Judicial branches too.

  24. OFD says:

    “I fear President Obama will be the straw that broke the camel’s back.”

    Blasphemous parody: Barry is merely the Forerunner, he who is not worthy to unloose the sandals of the Cankles who follows. If she gets in, she’ll apply the coup de grace, and joyfully, before her cold and fossilized heart finally disintegrates to sulphurous ash.

    “livestock?, 4 wheeler? motorbike?”

    Yeah, probably. There are hosses aplenty in the area; how many of them are draft, I fear not many. I’ll be looking at ATVs that can pull trailers, etc., but again, they run on gasoline and oil. Mainly I’m keeping an eye out for an older, pre-computer, 4X pickup truck; they’re going for top dollar these days.

    “Yes, I am a States Rightist.”

    lol. Code for “neo-Confederate,” “slaver apologist,” rayciss, white supremacist, hater, etc., etc. I got called all those in my old posting days at Salon’s now long-defunct Table Talk blog. They’re now a neo-Maoist online tabloid.

    Ah yes, the forgotten Tenth Amendment. They abide by whatever amendment they can fit to their purposes, otherwise not. Thus that one by the wayside, and the Second, of course. They use the First and the Fifth when it suits them and discard the Fourth. A pox on them all.

  25. Lynn says:

    “Union: Obama threw workers ‘under the bus’ in Keystone decision”
    http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/259395-union-obama-threw-workers-under-the-bus

    ““We are dismayed and disgusted that the President has once again thrown the members of LIUNA, and other hard-working, blue-collar workers under the bus of his vaunted ‘legacy,’ while doing little or nothing to make a real difference in global climate change,” Terry O’Sullivan, the union’s general president, said in a statement. “His actions are shameful.””

    “The group’s statement cited a State Department report that Keystone could reduce greenhouse gas emissions when compared with oil transportation by rail.”

    ““But facts apparently mean as little to the president as the construction jobs he repeatedly derided as insignificant because they are ‘temporary,’ ” O’Sullivan said. “Ironically, the very temporary nature of the president’s own job seems to be fueling a legacy of doing permanent harm to middle- and working class families.””

    Obola is an elitist fool!

  26. OFD says:

    “… while doing little or nothing to make a real difference in global climate change,”

    And by acceding to the opposition’s terms of language and debate, the union stooge undercuts his own argument. As if the warmists had ANY validity to theirs. This is typical of too many of us who simply buy into their usages and already we’re on thin ice.

    “…fueling a legacy of doing permanent harm to middle- and working class families.””

    Yeah, Terry, you right on the money there but that that hoss done left the barn a very long time ago, say, when it became pretty much mandatory for BOTH spouses to have to work full-time to even tread WOTTA in the middle class here, and by us bending over on a very uneven playing field with regard to other nations and trade policies.

    Terry’s upset, and by extension a lot of other peeps, because the latest puppet resident of the White House gave them the big middle finger. And they’re shocked, shocked, I tell you. I wonder where they’ve been all these years; the destruction of the middle- and working-classes in this country has been a prime directive for our rulers for decades now. In collusion with the corporate bonzes and nabobs and potentates.

    Terry and others need to wake up and pay attention: we are living under a corporate fascist oligarchy. Adjust your strategy and tactics accordingly.

  27. Lynn says:

    _The Perseid Collapse_ (The Perseid Collapse Series) (Volume 1) by Steven Konkoly
    http://www.amazon.com/Perseid-Collapse/dp/1493695649/

    Book number 2 of a five book series. This is actually a four book series plus a prequel book, _The Jakarta Pandemic_. The book is a POD printing in trade paperback (my favorite!).

    Six years after the Jakarta Pandemic that killed 30 million people in the USA and one billion people worldwide, the USA economy has mostly recovered from the pandemic. Then, somebody detonated a nuclear bomb high above the eastern seaboard of the USA. The resulting fire burst above Boston, 60 foot tsunami and EMP practically destroy the entire eastern seaboard of the USA. Our hero and his buddies send their families inland to his parents house on bicycles due to a severe lack of running vehicles. Then they take the running Jeep that they have into the outskirts of Boston to rescue their kids at Boston University. The story ends on a cliff hanger.

    My rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.3 out of 5 stars (525 reviews)

  28. OFD says:

    Related to us either stupidly or inadvertently adopting and using the language of the oppressors; they no longer have a monopoly on the spread of countering information, thusly:

    “The new media, as exemplified by the poster at the top, means the decidedly anti-gun mainstream media no longer have an oligopoly on the dissemination of information. That’s why they are losing.”

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11/dean-weingarten/nobody-is-trying-to-take-your-guns/#more-377982

  29. OFD says:

    @Mr. Chuck (and anyone else interested) a clarification:

    I mentioned I had both CentOS and RHEL machines here, the latter for cert studies and playing around with; I also brought up that I had a RH license for $99/year; here’s the exact title of it:

    Red Hat JBoss Developer Studio Portfolio Edition

    This gets me:

    “Security: Red Hat’s Security Response Team has delivered fixes for more than 98% of critical vulnerabilities within one calendar day of being identified.
    Award-winning support: Red Hat’s technical support is available 24 hours a day globally, with the knowledgebase, case studies and reference architectures available via the Red Hat Customer Portal.
    Free updates and upgrades: Your subscription gives you access to any supported version of the Red Hat software, including all updates to those versions.”

    If I was running a business, which I’m in the process of setting up, I’d go with either RHEL and get this license for it, or go the CentOS route and rely on that site and community for support, which is excellent, by the way. My plan is to keep working on the RHEL cert and experiment with the latest stuff, like Ansible, Open Stack, etc., so I can maybe snag a few bucks here and there with remote consulting gigs. And use the CentOS box for my actual biz needs, maybe wife’s also.

    For security stuff; two routes: OpenBSD on a laptop running Tor, encryption and offshore email. And, booting Tails whenever and wherever and doing the same thing.

    And for the ham radio capers, I’m gonna go with Mr. nick’s Panasonic Toughbook config and putting Andy’s Ham Radio Linux on it; I’ll pack that with the emergency radio case I’m building and the radio go-bag.

    Three key areas to learn for some of us old duffer prepper types that could prove very useful to the boyz and grrls swanning around the hostile landscapes with their rucks, rifles and ammo:

    1.) Commo; radio, net, phones, any and all of it, and getting the various licenses.

    2.) Map reading and land navigation; we need to know our immediate and larger AO’s and this chit comes in handy if we’re trying to get to or from somewhere without the usual internal combustion engine machines.

    3.) Community and regional intel; check out the Culper Institute’s online information and courses; he’s redoing the site and should be back up by the end of the year. Meanwhile take a look at the U.S. Army’s FM series on this stuff.

  30. Lynn says:

    _The Perseid Collapse_ (The Perseid Collapse Series) (Volume 1) by Steven Konkoly
    http://www.amazon.com/Perseid-Collapse/dp/1493695649/

    Forgot to mention that the author has a website at:
    http://stevenkonkoly.com/

    He has a very interesting post at:
    http://stevenkonkoly.com/2015/07/03/surviving-ku-2-0/
    where he describes his payments for people only reading parts of his books in Kindle Unlimited. 0.6 cents per page is the going rate at Amazon. Interesting, kind of a micro payment thing.

  31. ech says:

    The resulting fire burst above Boston, 60 foot tsunami and EMP practically destroy the entire eastern seaboard of the USA.

    Really? A 60 foot tsunami? From a high altitude airburst?

  32. OFD says:

    “Really? A 60 foot tsunami? From a high altitude airburst?”

    Poetic license for the rubes and bumpkins.

    A funny historical fact, though; large areas of Boston are built on crappy “fill,” sand, rubbish, other junk, from back in colonial days forward. The city used to be connected to the mainland only by a narrow neck of land and the Back Bay, for instance, is built almost entirely on such fill. Reclaiming the sea, like the Dutch, so to speak. If you hike around the Back Bay area you’ll notice the Back Bay Fens, obviously former and current wetland alongside the Charles River. And Boston also had an ass-kicking earthquake back in my g-g-g-grandfather Ben Franklin’s day. Another such would be very interesting.

    “The Cape Ann earthquake may also have created the first recorded tsunami in U.S. history. Observers in the Leeward Islands nearly 1,000 miles (1,600 km) south of Cape Ann, reported a receding of water followed by a large wave that lifted several boats ashore and left fish floundering on the beach.[7]”

    And from the “no-nuke” and “Atomkraft? Nein!” days:

    “Opposition to the Seabrook Station Nuclear Power Plant, about 15 miles off Cape Ann on the New Hampshire shoreline, highlighted the earthquake risk of the area. The plant was built regardless.”

    Built regardless. That tells us something, amirite?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Cape_Ann_earthquake

  33. Lynn says:

    The resulting fire burst above Boston, 60 foot tsunami and EMP practically destroy the entire eastern seaboard of the USA.

    Really? A 60 foot tsunami? From a high altitude airburst?

    I have yet to read what the fire burst, tsunami, and EMP were actually caused by. The perpetrators of the event disguised it as an asteroid using a very large re-entry vehicle which exploded over the Atlantic after it passed over Boston at low altitude. I’m not surprised that the author is taking literary license though. He did very much so in his “The Jakarta Pandemic” book where he gave the fatality percentage of his new flu as 20% whereas the Spanish Flu was only 4%. Still, makes for a good, intense story that I enjoyed the hound out of.

  34. Miles_Teg says:

    OFD wrote:

    “…he doesn’t beat us over the head with his religious beliefs, so I let those slide; they’re kinda wacky, IMHO.”

    Um, Dave, that’s a bit ironic comming from you… 🙂

  35. Miles_Teg says:

    Lynn, does Keystone make economic sense with current oil prices?

    And I read some Nebraskans are cheezed with getting letters saying that a Canadian company would use Eminent Domain to grab their land.

  36. Lynn says:

    Lynn, does Keystone make economic sense with current oil prices?

    Yes, very much so. The Canadian portion of the Keystone pipeline has been built and is in use. The USA portion of the Keystone pipeline has been built and is in use. Only the portion of the Keystone pipeline that cross Nebraska and the international border has not been built.

    So, they pump oil through the Canadian pipeline portion, almost to the border. They offload the oil into railroad tank cars and then run the train across the border and through the Dakotas. Then they offload the oil from the railroad tank cars and put it into holding tanks for pumping from the southern edge of Nebraska to the Gulf Coast refineries. Imagine how more efficient the process would be if they did not have to offload the oil to the railroad and back into the pipeline.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline

    BTW, you do know that there is already a Keystone pipeline? This is a secondary pipeline being added. The first pipeline has been in service since 2010.

    Or are you asking if the tar sand oil is economical? I do not know. Tar sand oil is excavated like coal using strip mining. They remove the overburden (dirt), load the tar sand into humongous trucks (100 net ton payload) and run to the separation plant. At the separation plant, they heat the tar sand up to 165 F to 180 F, run a lot of water in it and split the solids (sand, really heavy tar, sulfur, dirt, etc), water (recycle) and crude oil. They use an incredible amount of natural gas heating up the tar sand and water mixture, especially in the winter time. They have recently switched to using natural gas from the Dakotas which is a lot cheaper so their costs have dropped. I used to hear $80/barrel of crude oil product as their cost. But, who knows?
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-sands-producers-struggle-1440017716

  37. OFD says:

    “Um, Dave, that’s a bit ironic comming from you…”

    OK, Mr. Miles-Teg; here’s the chronology: Roman Catholic Church (1,000 years)>>>Eastern Orthodox schism>>>Protestant Reformation>>>and then a spreading hodge-podge of various other schisms, sects, cults, etc, as could have been predicted. Gary North’s particular uber-fundie-Prod sect is to Catholicism and Methodism as Maoism is to a liberal Murkan Democrat. Quick example: adulterers should be stoned. (all capital punishment should be conducted via stoning) They dig the Old Testament strictures and punishments more than they do the loving Aryan hippie Jesus. And it’s tough to get in, too. Check ’em out on the web:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_Presbyterian_Church_of_North_America

    http://reformedpresbyterian.org/convictions

    Also, look up “Christian Reconstructionism,” kemosabe.

  38. Lynn says:

    Quick example: adulterers should be stoned. (all capital punishment should be conducted via stoning) They dig the Old Testament strictures and punishments more than they do the loving Aryan hippie Jesus.

    Oh my! That does make my church look like a bunch of hippies! We believe that the Bible was divinely inspired and written. But we believe that Jesus came to replace the Law of the Old Testament with Love. We do read and study both testaments, in fact my Sunday class studied the Book of Daniel last year. I had no idea it read like the “Chariots of the Gods” book when you go deeply into it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ

  39. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    My church believes that Jesus, if he even existed (which is extremely unlikely) was the bastard son of a door-to-door camel salesman who seduced Mary, and that Joseph was the most gullible guy ever.

  40. SteveF says:

    here’s the chronology: Roman Catholic Church (1,000 years)>>>Eastern Orthodox schism>>>Protestant Reformation>>>and then a spreading hodge-podge of various other schisms, sects, cults, etc

    That’s one version of the history of the christian church. It’s not an accurate version, but I’ll concede it’s the one taught by catholics.

    we believe that Jesus came to replace the Law of the Old Testament with Love

    That’s largely what the Albigensians (aka Cathars) believed, though I think they settled on the OT being a lie spread by Satan, before they were wiped out. And wiped out they were: the catholic church proclaimed them the Church of Satan (because they did not acknowledge the catholic hierarchy) and the French king had a hair up his ass because they didn’t acknowledge his suzerainty and didn’t pay their taxes. In fact, the pope of the time, that misnamed piece of crap Innocent, even initiated a full-blown crusade against them. It makes sense, of course: not sending money to the church hierarchy and acknowledging the pope as supreme over dukes and kings is obviously on a par with the Muhammadans occupying the most sacred sites of the christian religion.

    Oh, by the way, there was a discussion here a few days ago about Moslem, Muslim, etc. Muhammadan is not necessarily the most offensive term but it invariably leads to “clarifications” that Muhammadan is not the correct term because Muhammadans do not worship Muhammad. However, if you then say “blah blah blah” and walk away while they’re “explaining”, that is very offensive. Not that I would deliberately offend any living being, of course; this is just something I heard, or maybe read on a bathroom wall or something. You know what else I saw on a bathroom wall? Ol’ Mo’s mom’s telephone number, with the text “for a good time call”.

  41. SteveF says:

    and that Joseph was the most gullible guy ever.

    Seems likely.

    Another idea that occurred to me is that Mary didn’t know what was going on, either. Some sects of Jews in the past few centuries have had views on the human body, sexual activity, and useful education of the young just as ridiculous as the most whacked-out christian cult. What if Mary, and possibly Joseph, came from such a sect and had no idea that sticking that in there was sex, eliminated virginity, and could result in a baby. (This idea was spurred by reading recently of a girl raised in some whack-job cult who had no idea that she was pregnant, let alone how it could have happened.)

    Or what about Joseph did get Mary knocked up but was pulling a Clinton-esque “depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is” excuse about how she got knocked up too young/before the proper rites/whatever. Some books which were not accepted into the “standard” bible even though they were contemporaneous with the accepted books have a different slant on events in some of the accepted gospels, though I don’t think any actually shed any light on this particular subject.

  42. OFD says:

    “…and the French king had a hair up his ass because they didn’t acknowledge his suzerainty and didn’t pay their taxes.”

    A later French monarch had a hair up his ass about the Templars, and all the treasure they’d amassed while his regime was going bankrupt. So he kicked off a sort of mini-Crusade and messed them up real bad.

    “However, if you then say “blah blah blah” and walk away while they’re “explaining”, that is very offensive.”

    Ask them to ‘splain which version of “islam” we’re supposed to believe, considering they’re split into Sunni and Shiite, and then have on top of that various “commentaries” from later scribes that seem to carry a lot more weight some days…

    As for the Saints Mary and Joseph and the baby Jesus I tend to go along with the standard interpretation that’s been around, oh, a couple of thousand years, and been vetted and believed by people WAY more brilliant than little ol’ me, and ditto with the books that didn’t make it into the final Biblical canon. I mean, Saints Augustine and Aquinas were pretty smart guys and didn’t exactly live the life of Reilly in their times; they didn’t seem to have a problem with it. Nor have countless martyrs in the Faith over that same span of time, yea unto the present day in many lands, including this one.

    But to each his own, etc., etc. Free country and all. I look kind of askance, though, at Christian Reconstructionists, snake handlers, drinkers of strychnine, and my Puritan ancestors’ witch-hunts here in Ye Olde New England.

  43. Lynn says:

    As for the Saints Mary and Joseph and the baby Jesus I tend to go along with the standard interpretation that’s been around, oh, a couple of thousand years, and been vetted and believed by people WAY more brilliant than little ol’ me, and ditto with the books that didn’t make it into the final Biblical canon. I mean, Saints Augustine and Aquinas were pretty smart guys and didn’t exactly live the life of Reilly in their times; they didn’t seem to have a problem with it. Nor have countless martyrs in the Faith over that same span of time, yea unto the present day in many lands, including this one.

    This is not a “salvation issue” but I believe it to be true also.

    But to each his own, etc., etc. Free country and all. I look kind of askance, though, at Christian Reconstructionists, snake handlers, drinkers of strychnine, and my Puritan ancestors’ witch-hunts here in Ye Olde New England.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstructionism
    Why in the world would anyone want to restore Mosaic law? There are about 680 ??? laws in the Mosaic law, each exacting to the nth degree. Life is tough enough without having to memorize and follow items down to the minutest principles. Just the purification laws alone are freaky.

    And who wants to live in a theocracy? Shudder! Name me one theocracy that has worked to date. And the Vatican does not count since so much tributary is flowing in. Most end up eating each other as the invaders try to get through the walls for some crazy reason.

  44. OFD says:

    “Why in the world would anyone want to restore Mosaic law?”

    Fah different times back then, in an unforgiving desert that stretches for endless miles under a broiling sun; maybe that’s what was needed then to survive. It may well become popular again in the West if things deteriorate far enough.

    “Name me one theocracy that has worked to date. And the Vatican does not count since so much tributary is flowing in.”

    They gave up trying to take over the world a very long time ago. And it’s like pulling teeth to get Western Catholics to pipe up about anything. So we let the lefty bishops and cardinals, and now a lefty Pope, do all the talking. But of course I’m in a minority of “reactionary” Roman Catholics here in the West.

    Purported Christians who wish to be ruled by a theocracy forget one of His most well-known bits of advice; ”render unto Caesar, etc.’

  45. ech says:

    Why in the world would anyone want to restore Mosaic law?

    Well, one of the (now somewhat less important) movers and shakers in the Harris County Republican Party has expressed such beliefs (he and his brother are dominionists at the least). He and his brother in Dallas have been strong supporters of Huckabee and Santorum, FWIW.

    Edit: some quick Googling sh0ws that they are supporters of one of Rushdoony, the guy that started all the reconstructionism theology.

  46. OFD says:

    Ask ’em if they’re familiar with the writings of this dude:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas_Rushdoony

    Some may think me odd or whatever for bashing fundie Prods and/or Calvinism but man, they are some harsh mofos:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcedon_Foundation

    I’m not big on all the homosexual and tranny influence in our media, academia and gummint but I would tend to draw the line at the death penalty for them, which, of course, they’d do by stoning. Not much different than the hadjis in that respect.

    Me and my Roman Catholic rightists, so to speak, have been “classified” as “paleoconservative,” with our pitifully subscribed house organ being Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture, run by the Rockford Institute out in Illinois. Our main political guy has been Patrick J. Buchanan, of course. We don’t believe in stoning homosexuals and adulterers, or in deifying crazy old bats like Luther and Calvin, and privileging the Old Testament over the New.

    Or, say, a few choice phrases of Leviticus or Revelation to the exclusion of the rest of the Scriptures….

    edit: I see I x-posted with Mr. ech…

  47. OFD says:

    Score one for the hadjis!

    “Meanwhile, the criminals of IS must be laughing and back-slapping over just how much they have sown discord in the ranks of their infidel foes.”

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/11/eric-margolis/murder-sinai/

  48. SteveF says:

    Not much different than the hadjis in that respect.

    No surprise there. Muhammadans, and Arabs even before Mo came along, don’t invent things or discover things. The best of the “flowering of Islamic culture” was their scholars traveling around and gathering up and preserving the thoughts and inventions of others.

    The only exception I know of is the condom. Muhammadans discovered the use of the goat’s bowel in contraception. And then, 800 years later, they revolutionized the use of the goat-bowel condom by removing it from the goat first.

  49. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] Purported Christians who wish to be ruled by a theocracy forget one of His most well-known bits of advice; ”render unto Caesar, etc.’ [snip]

    In my experience, there are a whole lot of purported Christians who still haven’t worked their way through “Love One Another”.

  50. OFD says:

    “… there are a whole lot of purported Christians who still haven’t worked their way through “Love One Another”.

    Agreed. And we rarely if ever hear about the ones who have.

    “And then, 800 years later, they revolutionized the use of the goat-bowel condom by removing it from the goat first.”

    Blasphemous infidel. But funny!

  51. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I thought they still fucked goats.

  52. SteveF says:

    That’s an easy mistake to make, but Arab women are not goats despite the facial hair.

  53. OFD says:

    If not goats then young boys. Our troops are told to stand down when they hear the screaming. This all gets a free pass, of course.

    What a country!

  54. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    As well they should be. What the moslems choose to do in their own countries is none of our business, as long as it doesn’t threaten us.

  55. OFD says:

    My point being, of course, that our troops shouldn’t even be over there in the first place. In previous wars, they had their Bibles and Playboy magazines confiscated while in those shit-holes, at their own bases. This was all for what? Human rights? Oil sheiks? Our own bankster and finance boyz?

    Meanwhile the hadji lifestyle goes on over there but our own kids are coming back all fucked up, some of them so angry they’re walking powder kegs, and that’s just here in northern rural Vermont; imagine how many of them are down there in Megalopolis. We got guys coming in to the group now who are so messed up they can barely function enough to drag themselves in, and often ramble incoherently so even WE old farts can’t even understand them.

    Veterans Day (formerly Armistice Day) coming up next week; always a joyful and ecstatic time for us. The parades, the confetti, the speeches…

    Whereas actually it tends to set off a new round of being pissed off and bitter that lasts for weeks.

    Our troops should not have to be in a position where they hear the screaming of dozens of little boys being sodomized and told they need to STFU about it. While at the same time they’re being told they’re over there to help build community and democracy for those animals.

  56. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I understand what you’re saying, but that last is a real insult to animals.

  57. Miles_Teg says:

    OFD wrote:

    “…and my Puritan ancestors’ witch-hunts here in Ye Olde New England.”

    So, the New England witch hunts were evil (yes, they were) but the burning of Joan of Arc and all the nasty stuff the Inquisition did are okay?

  58. Miles_Teg says:

    SteveF wrote:

    “The only exception I know of is the condom. Romans discovered the use of the sheep’s bowel in contraception. And then, 800 years later, they revolutionized the use of the sheep-bowel condom by removing it from the sheep first. All of this 2000 years before New Zealanders reversed progress and left the sheep-bowel condom in the sheep.”

    There, fixed that for you.

  59. Miles_Teg says:

    Keystone…

    I didn’t know it was economic to spend all that energy turning tar sands into useable oil, especially at current prices.

    Plus, I understand ranchers in Nebraska are complaining about the Nebraska or US government using Eminent Domain to acquire their land for the benefit of a private company. If that’s true I think it sucks. Despite what the Supremes ruled a few years ago ED shouldn’t be used for the convienence of the private sector.

  60. Miles_Teg says:

    OFD wrote:

    “OK, Mr. Miles-Teg; here’s the chronology: Roman Catholic Church (1,000 years)>>>Eastern Orthodox schism>>>Protestant Reformation>>>and then…”

    Ya got it wrong mate. The true church (aka Protestantism) started off in around 33 AD, from which the supposed Bishop of Rome split off by adding more and more made up stuff to the faith. Eventually this was too much for the Orthodox, who split off in, when was it? 1054 AD. The Protestants, Waldensians and so on continued on as the one true church, as they have been for almost 2000 years.

    Oh, and the Cathars were heretics, pure and simple, they indulged some sort of dualism that even ensnared the brilliant St Augustine of Hippo for a while. From our perspective they shouldn’t have been obliterated but they weren’t Christian.

  61. OFD says:

    “… but that last is a real insult to animals.”

    True, dat. Can we just go with “vermin?” Or “scum?”

    “So, the New England witch hunts were evil (yes, they were) but the burning of Joan of Arc and all the nasty stuff the Inquisition did are okay?”

    No, those were very bad, too, and thank goodness the Reformation came along to stop all that and give us…hmmm….more witch burnings, heretic burnings, hanging, drawing and quartering, etc., etc.

    (someone steps in here now and reports that ALL Christianity has been like that and gee whiz, what can you expect?)

    Joan of Arc: Catholic martyr, of course, but also a political pawn in the endless struggles between the French and the English.

    Inquisition: Excesses committed, of course, but a ton of bad agitprop Protestant press since.

    I recommend the following texts:

    “Seven Lies About Catholic History” by Diane Moczar, available in Kindle

    “Five Anti-Catholic Myths: Slavery, Crusades, Inquisition, Galileo, Holocaust” by Gerard M. Verschuuren

    “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)” by Robert Spencer

  62. OFD says:

    “The true church (aka Protestantism) started off in around 33 AD, from which the supposed Bishop of Rome split off by adding more and more made up stuff to the faith.”

    I see. Wow.

    This is of a piece with the evidently unshakable belief in our elections and voting here.

    And that Hillary Clinton is a hottie.

  63. Miles_Teg says:

    Lynn wrote:

    “Why in the world would anyone want to restore Mosaic law?”

    Not me. If a woman is having her period she is contaminated, so is her clothing and anything she sits on. If she sits on a chair (hopefully clothed) and I subsequently sit on it then I am ceremonially defiled and have to make a sin offering to fix things up. SteveF, RBT or (in a pinch OFD) would do nicely as the offering… 🙂

  64. Miles_Teg says:

    “And that Hillary Clinton is a hottie.”

    Well, I agree she’s a bit past her prime now. But get used to the idea that she and her goons are comming for your guns…

  65. OFD says:

    “But get used to the idea that she and her goons are comming for your guns…”

    Oh, we’re ready, not to worry. It’s the ‘death by a thousand cuts’ method; work on us incrementally over the course of yet another Long March. It’s been, admittedly, pretty successful in the past, but more millions are catching on and resisting. To the point that even country sheriffs and police chiefs are stating they won’t enforce any more bullshit laws and ordinances emanating from their capital cities, usually hotbeds of SJW ass-hats.

    “…she’s a bit past her prime now.”

    She never HAD a prime; we have the evidence of early pictures and videos and the eyewitness testimony of none other than our own illustrious Mr. DadCooks! Get used to the idea that your preferences in various womyn are highly suspect. Perhaps it’s a shame that the once-gorgeous? Angela Merkel is now just a “bit past her prime now,” too?

  66. nick says:

    Remember I shared about active shooter doctrine?

    Here is a well produced video to share with others.

    Civilian response to active shooter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcSwejU2D0

    Produced in 2012.

    Not PC (other than the emphasis on current doctrine, and the gun free zone). probably why it didn’t get wider exposure.

    nick

  67. nick says:

    BTW, you guys are falling prey to the circus. Don’t get distracted by the same old arguement, Hilarity vs acceptable norms of appearance… waste of energy and brain space…

    nick

  68. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I was surprised the other night when Barbara was watching an episode of Rizzoli & Isles (an absolute stinker of a series–bad writing, bad actors, bad everything) and they actually got it right. The scene was set in a medical office with a shooter. The female doctor walked out of her office and the guy immediately shot and killed her. The husband doctor came charging out of his office and without hesitation ran into and knocked down the shooter and started grappling with him. The male doctor did exactly the right thing. He ended up dead as well, but as I said to Barbara, you don’t always win, but if you don’t attack immediately you’ve lost.

  69. DadCooks says:

    I’m enjoying the discussion going on above. Brings back the good old days when my cube had an Episcopalian (me), a Jew, a Mormon (preferred to be called LDS), and a Moslem (originally from Bangladesh). We always ate lunch together most days and tried to solve all the world’s problems. As I can tell from the above back and forth, we still have a long way to go.

    Not to be construed that I am a Pacifist, but history demonstrates time and again that the sword has never really settled anything. However, tolerating the intolerant has never settled anything either.

    BTW, Hillary was known to go both ways in High School, which way at the time depended on how that person could be used to further her own self-centered interests. She has always liked to take credit for other’s work and her habit of denial was well honed even in her teen years. She is a prime example of what a dysfunctional family produces. Chelsea is a chip off the old block. Beware.

  70. Miles_Teg says:

    Hillary was AC/DC? Hm, didn’t know that.

  71. OFD says:

    “Hillary was AC/DC? Hm, didn’t know that.”

    I don’t think that was what Mr. DadCooks was talking about; I think he meant she’s more of a two-faced lying bitch from the earliest days and always busy manipulating others until she has no further use for them; to wit, all their supposed “friends” thrown from the Klinton sleigh over the decades, some of them to imprisonment or death.

    As for the AC/DC you refer to, there have been both actual accounts and rumors for a very long time about that, some of the former actually coming from Larry Klinton himself. Current rumor has it that she’s like that with her Muslim Brotherhood operative, Huma. No one would care, except that she’s who she is and where she is and the fact that the “marriage” has been an utter sham from the earliest days.

  72. OFD says:

    The active shooter scenarios; yeah, if possible, GTFO ASAP and take anybody with you that you can. Call 911. This holds even if you’re a tacticool operator and armed to the teeth.

    If the shooter is suddenly in your face, you got no choice; ATTACK immediately. With everything you’ve got.

    My own inclination is to follow the above, but if I see the shooter and he doesn’t see me yet and I have a clear shot I’m taking it.

  73. DadCooks says:

    @OFD – as per usual you have done a good job interpreting me, you are right on both counts. Both counts being mutually beneficial to her and she carefully manages the degree for maximum effect.

  74. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I understand that they’ve actually signed a contract, and Bill is contractually obligated to have sex with her once a month.

  75. dkreck says:

    Depends on your definition of ‘is’.

  76. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Depends on who else is threatened. Even with a clear shot, I’m not going to take it and land myself in a world of legal/financial hurt, not to mention potential return fire from the guy or an unseen accomplice unless I know and care about one or more of the other victims. Well, maybe, if the victim pool is a bunch of young women even if I don’t know/care about them. Sometimes a man’s gotta go what a man’s gotta do. And after the amount of combat pistol competition I’ve done, albeit 40 years ago, I might be hardwired to fire on an active shooter.

  77. OFD says:

    “…Bill is contractually obligated to have sex with her once a month.”

    And my understanding is that Bill has since contracted with some dude from Australia to fill in for him most months of the year; the guy actually PAID for the opportunity!

    “…I might be hardwired to fire on an active shooter.”

    Ditto. My brain tells me to GTFO and dial up 911; my haht sez “Take the shot, Dave, take the shot.” Let’s hope I never find out which has the most sway over me.

  78. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    To be honest, I think I’d take the shot before my brain had time to think about it. I hope when the shooter’s back was turned. I absolutely hate to be shot at.

  79. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Which reminds me that I need to get back in practice for combat pistol shooting. When I first trained for it, we’d have a magazine that someone else had loaded for us, which included one dummy round. We never knew which magazine it’d be, or which round in the magazine. We got real good at clearing mis/non-fires without dropping cadence, just by slapping the slide back and continuing. That’s one reason I mistrust revolvers for self-defense. About 99% of the time with a double-action revolver, you can just pull the trigger and keep shooting, but I’ve seen an occasional squib in a revolver that pushed the bullet out just far enough to wedge in the forcing cone. At that point, you’re screwed.

  80. OFD says:

    “…but I’ve seen an occasional squib in a revolver that pushed the bullet out just far enough to wedge in the forcing cone. At that point, you’re screwed.”

    I saw that once at a range with my next-younger brother and some fellow cops; I heard the sound and saw it sticking outta the muzzle as he was about to pull the trigger again. Caught it just in time.

    http://www.gunsite.com/classes/virginia-250-pistol-class/

    When I next have a couple of grand lying around, I’ll zip on down for this one. Meanwhile, I’m planning on an Appleseed class in the spring here in Nova Anglia, at least.

  81. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Like most things, you can learn combat pistol shooting by reading books, as long as you supplement that with lots and lots of actual shooting. It might take two or three times as many rounds to achieve a given level of competence, but no one who can’t afford to spend $2k or whatever on a week-long course should think they can’t get pretty damned good at it on their own.

  82. OFD says:

    The cheaper alternative would be to join a local gun club, or, as they’re sometimes known, “sportsmens’ association,” or “rod and gun club,” and make oneself useful and friendly and suchlike. See if there’s anyone there with decent instructor creds and work with them. Combine that with the Toob vids, online classes, and DVDs and continue disassembly, reassembly, cleaning, maintenance, etc., along with shooting as much ammo as is affordable and available. Try the simulator laser guns and targets, some of them known as “blue” guns. Have somebody time you or time yourself on drawing, clearing malfunctions, reloading, etc. Work on low-light and darkness exercises, moving off the X and watching your six at all times. Know the diff between cover and concealment, etc., etc.

    Get pretty good with all that and comfortable with your EDC weapon, move on to shotguns and rifles.

    From there, machine guns, grenade and rocket launchers, night vision devices, etc.

    No, I’m not joking; at least read up on that stuff and watch videos; you never know when it might come not only handy but absolutely necessary. Tons of U.S. Army and Marine Corps manuals and documentation online. Or available via mail-order.

  83. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    And practice shooting pistol one-handed with your off-hand. Your rifle and shotgun, too, for that matter. That’s a lot easier for me than it apparently is for most people, because I’m pretty much ambidextrous. But it’s an important skill. I normally hold the pistol in my right hand and shoot two-handed. But it’s important to be able to shoot one-handed with either hand. Every cop I’ve ever mentioned this to said he’d never ever shot with his off hand, unless he happened to be a combat pistol competitor.

    A lot of instructors despair at my shooting stance. I stand with my left side toward the target, with my left elbow tucked tight against my left side. That both reduces my silhouette relative to a face-on stance and means a round that hits me would have to go through my left arm before entering my torso. Every little bit helps.

  84. OFD says:

    I’m right-handed also but have actually (in the past) put up better scores shooting with my left; which eye is dominant also plays into this. But I can see where your stance gets the slantendicular gaze from instructors; hey, whatever works for YOU.

    Shooting and moving in conditions of dark and low light is also very important; not many actual violent encounters of this nature take place at a well-lit range or on the main street at high noon in Dodge. Goblins attack at night, mostly, and hope for shock and awe when they do. Beef up them doors and windows, have a dog or two, and make their entrance as long and difficult as possible while you tool up and dial 911 for the “professionals.” Don’t be rushing down and/or out to meet them, either. Make them come to you.

    Oh, and I’ve said this before and just cannot stress it enough; you arrive home and find the door ajar? DON’T go on in there and start blindly checking it out. Back off and call the cops.

  85. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    The real bitch would be if the crash doesn’t happen until 20 years from now, when most of us will be in our 70’s or 80’s.

  86. nick says:

    That’s why I’m a breeder. By then, my kids are adults, and if I don’t screw it up, they can carry the heavy load.

    nick

  87. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I’ll have to count on being a wizard.

  88. lynn says:

    About 99% of the time with a double-action revolver, you can just pull the trigger and keep shooting, but I’ve seen an occasional squib in a revolver that pushed the bullet out just far enough to wedge in the forcing cone. At that point, you’re screwed.

    I’ve seen something similar to this in a 45 semi auto. We were at a firing range and dropping live rounds everywhere in clearing the gun practice. The guy picked up a .40 (probably one of mine) and put it in his mag. When we started firing again, the .40 round chambered and then went forward when the firing pin struck it. The guy racked his gun and shot again. The .45 round fired and hit the .40 round. The gun made the weirdest sound and the slide and spring broke off the gun.

  89. OFD says:

    “The real bitch would be if the crash doesn’t happen until 20 years from now, when most of us will be in our 70’s or 80’s.”

    That’s what I’m worried about, mainly; being way too old and decrepit to do much of anything or be any use to anyone else, i.e. a useless eater and burden.

    ” The gun made the weirdest sound and the slide and spring broke off the gun.”

    He was lucky that’s all that happened. Yikes.

  90. lynn says:

    “The real bitch would be if the crash doesn’t happen until 20 years from now, when most of us will be in our 70’s or 80’s.”

    That’s what I’m worried about, mainly; being way too old and decrepit to do much of anything or be any use to anyone else, i.e. a useless eater and burden.

    I’m just hoping I’m dead before they throw me in the gutter somewhere.

  91. SteveF says:

    Better to hope that you’re dead before they start cutting you up for the stew pot.

  92. lynn says:

    http://www.gunsite.com/classes/virginia-250-pistol-class/

    When I next have a couple of grand lying around, I’ll zip on down for this one. Meanwhile, I’m planning on an Appleseed class in the spring here in Nova Anglia, at least.

    I have been to Front Sight and highly recommend them. They got rid of a couple of my bad habits and taught me how to clear a semi auto. They tried real hard but they did not get rid of my finger on the trigger bad habit. I sent two over the berm and got lectures from one of the range instructors each time. The senior range instructor would just look at you and shake his head. Get your finger off the trigger when clearing a gun!
    https://www.frontsight.com/

    I went with my Dad and my son. Dad bought the 4 day training class tickets on ebay for $200 each.

  93. lynn says:

    Better to hope that you’re dead before they start cutting you up for the stew pot.

    No joke! Cormac McCarthy’s book “The Road” has our hero walking his son from the frozen north in winter to the gulf coast after a full nuclear exchange. At one point they run across several people being held by cannibals. One guy has half his leg cut off and begs them to kill him.
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307387895

  94. OFD says:

    McCarthy is probably our best living novelist since the death of George Garrett. Prior to them, who are/were consistently good, the last such good American novelist was probably Mark Twain.

    I’ll look into either Front Sight or Gunsite Academy if Mrs. OFD gets assignments in either Nevada or Arizona; otherwise it’s Appleseed and my other resources here.

  95. lynn says:

    McCarthy is probably our best living novelist since the death of George Garrett. Prior to them, who are/were consistently good, the last such good American novelist was probably Mark Twain.

    Sigh. You left Robert Heinlein off your list. Not sure about the consistently good thing but the first forty years of his books were awesome. And, I include SIASL,”Stranger in a Strange Land”, on that list. My personal favorites of his are “The Star Beast”, “Citizen of the Galaxy”, and “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress”. And many others, especially the juveniles.

  96. OFD says:

    Sorry, I’m a hyperliterate elitist bastid; SF writers to me are a subgenre of fiction and I gave them up back in high school. It’s no accident that they produce a lot of juvenile fiction; nothing wrong with any of it, just that it’s not up to my lofty novelistic standards.

    Plenty of folks would also argue that we had Hemingway, Faulkner, Updike, Cheever, etc. but they’re just not, IMHO, in the same class as McCarthy, Garrett and Twain. I’m an odd duck, to be sure. Those other guys did maybe one or two decent novels and the rest leave me cold. I can ready McCarthy, Garrett and Twain repeatedly, as I can Melville and Hawthorne.

  97. Miles_Teg says:

    “(In accordance with ITAR regulations, only US Citizens are accepted to participate in Gunsite courses.)”

    Damn! I guess I’ll just have to be an ordinary tourist next time I’m in Virginia.

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