Wednesday, 12 August 2015

By on August 12th, 2015 in science kits

08:04 – I made up chemical bags for both chemistry and biology kits yesterday, enough to build another two or three dozen kits on the fly. Today and tomorrow I’ll work on addressing the items that keep me from building more. Barbara is taking Friday off, and will be working with me on more. By this weekend, I hope to have enough of everything on hand to build another four dozen or so of each kit.

I wonder how much longer normal people are going to continue trying to talk with progressives. By now, it surely must be obvious to anyone with even a grain of sense that talking with progressives is not only useless but counterproductive. Letting them define the rules is foolish. I was just thinking back to the bathtub scene in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, where Eli Wallach is in a bubble bath when an armed assassin enters the room and threatens him verbally at length. Wallach just sits there listening to the threats until he fires his pistol from within the bubbles, blowing the assassin away. Wallach then calmly says, “When you’re gonna shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.” I’m thinking that the time for talking with progressives is long past.


12:21 – Boy, am I looking forward to September 30th, Barbara’s last day of work. The big issue is that she’ll be here at home rather than spending her days downtown. She’s a lot safer around here than walking on downtown streets and the parking deck. The other issue is that I can get a whole lot more done with her helping me. When we work on stuff together, we get about three times as much done in a given time, rather than just twice as much.

When she got back from running errands the other day, Barbara commented that she’d seen a civilian carrying a pistol openly, which she didn’t remember ever seeing before. North Carolina is an open-carry state. There’s no permit required. Barbara wasn’t at all put off or nervous about the guy carrying. Like me, she understands that someone who’s casually carrying openly is almost certainly a good guy. He’s not likely to shoot the place up. If anything, he’s likely to come to the defense of unarmed civilians if a bad guy does start shooting.

But I do understand that openly displaying arms makes a lot of people nervous rather than reassured. That’s obviously their problem, but it’s also the reason I’ve never carried openly. Well, that and it makes it easy for a bad guy to know who to shoot first. If the social situation continues to deteriorate, I may rethink that and start carrying again. For years, I literally put on my Colt Combat Commander when I put on my pants, and if things continue going downhill the day may not be far off when I start doing that again.

70 Comments and discussion on "Wednesday, 12 August 2015"

  1. Bill says:

    The progressives vision is to create a world where we all suffer equally. This constitutes “Justice” in their eyes. It sounds to me like a dystopia. Actually, I think they’re trying to create Hell on earth.

  2. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    My vision is a world where progs have very short life expectancies. Killing them is self-defense. I’d love to wake up some morning and see headlines about millions of dead progs. Oh, wait, it’s the progs who write the headlines, and they’d be dead.

  3. OFD says:

    Here in Vermont the progs tend to be concentrated in the “cities” and the college towns. Many, if not most of them, are ‘not from around here.’ They move here from southern climes like CT, NYC, NJ, etc. and immediately set about replicating the political and social environments they left. Most, if not all of them, are stereotypical and updated Yankee carpetbaggers, and hordes of them have done the same thing in our southern states. They bring with them an updated and twisted version of my ancestors’ rotten Calvinism/Puritanism and their heroes are historical figures like Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson and Pharaoh Roosevelt II. They most assuredly voted twice each for the Clintons and the Obamas.

    They rule much of the MSM, academia, and the seminaries, and they’ve made huge gains in the corporate sector. And their Long March through all our cultural institutions in the West has been a great success.

    If TSHTF in a big way, these people are likely to receive short shrift in their encounters with underclass denizens or many of the rest of us who’ve suffered their depredations and seen multiple generations of our children inculcated with their bullshit in their mis-education system and media.

  4. Roscoe says:

    One of the reasons we ended our Northwest experiment was the realization that we enabled/funded the after hours prog antics of my wife’s partner and her husband on Twitter, Facebook, etc.

    Ironically, the progs came from Texas, where we now reside.

    Killing them is illegal. Defunding is the acceptable self-defense.

  5. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “Killing them is illegal.”

    Are you sure? That doesn’t seem reasonable.

  6. OFD says:

    ” Defunding is the acceptable self-defense.”

    I don’t disagree but it’s hard to do when they or their minions control the purse strings.

    I think we subvert and sabotage the bastards every chance we get and bide our time; eventually their jig is gonna be up.

  7. Roscoe says:

    I’m pretty sure that killing progs is illegal, even here in Texas.

    If you can pull it off, defunding them generates a lot more agony in my experience — fewer trips to LePigeon where, rest assured, the staff can provide the provenance of the chicken.

    (God, did I hate Portland and the progs who lived there. “Portlandia” has it more right than many people realize.)

  8. CowboySlim says:

    Roger that, so it is just like watching the video of the confrontation between the cop and the lady that recently committed suicide in a Texas jail. They were in total disagreement and repeated themselves over and over again.

    Or, watching the TV program COPS, where the criminal just repeats the same lie repeatedly as if the cop will only assent after the 36th repetition.

  9. Chad says:

    Are Libertarians still moving to New Hampshire in support of the Free State Project? I haven’t heard much about it of late, but then I don’t live in New England.

  10. Al says:

    Not sure about the Free State Project, but I do know that a bunch of the leftist fools living in Massachusetts decided to move to New Hampshire because of the lower tax rate. Of course they took with them all of their progressive foolishness and are now in the process of destroying what was once a great state.

  11. DadCooks says:

    “Killing them is illegal.”

    But aborting them is not. So how about we give Planned no-Parenthood a new purpose. Oh, wait they are more than half way there already, just need to get them to 100%.

    BTW, I am of the opinion that the religious nutters are in the same club as the progressive. For that matter just a milder form of the Radical Islam.

    Dad is in a stir the fire mood today.

    The RBT’s Daynotes Journal has been quiet about Hillary. For over 40 years I had various levels of Top Secret Clearance (yes, there are several levels for specific situations and if I told you what they were I’d have to shoot you). My clearance with the Navy took over a year, the Navy interviewed every teacher I had in all my years of school, all previous employers, all neighbors, all associates, ad infinitum, and ad nauseam. The same had to be redon when I left the Navy to work for a Government Contractor, it was the same except that it was now the FBI that reinterviewed all the original people plus a bunch more. When I left the Navy and then again when I left the Government Contractor I had to go through a long debrief and sign a many page document regarding what I could and couldn’t talk about. If I had done what Hillary had done, I would have been put in the brig/prison for life. It’s time we see a Hillary perp walk.

  12. DadCooks says:

    Oops, just got caught up with the Tuesday Comments and I see some regarding Hillary.

    BTW, I was a couple of years behind Hillary in High School. She had a real reputation back then. Her Dad was a rabid Republican so she was made to join the Young Republicans. But she was also a rebel and also joined the disjointed unapproved Communist/Anti-War Club. She fancied herself a Hippy and knew who to contact for the best weed. Her Dad was abusive to Hillary and her mother in a psychological way. So I am sure she will blame her Dad for any new ill that befalls her.

  13. OFD says:

    “…a bunch of the leftist fools living in Massachusetts decided to move to New Hampshire because of the lower tax rate. Of course they took with them all of their progressive foolishness and are now in the process of destroying what was once a great state.”

    In progress since the 1980s, when I remember lotsa Massholes with jobs in the Routes 128 and 495 tech sectors moving to southern NH for tax purposes. The southern third or half of the state is now effectively an extension of Maffachufetts. Not all of them were lefties originally, but that’s how it’s turned out.

    “The RBT’s Daynotes Journal has been quiet about Hillary.”

    As RBT would say: “Eh?”

    We’ve been hammering Empress Cankles all week, sir.

    “It’s time we see a Hillary perp walk.”

    When elephants fly and pigs learn to whistle.

    These people are DIFFERENT than you and me. Doncha get it? They don’t HAVE to play by the roolz. Roolz are for us Mundanes and Little People.

    And as fah as OFD is concerned, who has a pretty long memory (when it works), the email chit with this pig is nothing compared to the other stuff her and Larry have gotten away with since they were in law skool together.

  14. Bill says:

    Isn’t everyone who sent Hillary Classified or Top Secret information by email also guilty of a crime? Not that the DOJ or FBI are going to be interested in enforcing that law.

  15. Lynn says:

    I was just thinking back to the bathtub scene in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, where Eli Wallach is in a bubble bath when an armed assassin enters the room and threatens him verbally at length. Wallach just sits there listening to the threats until he fires his pistol from within the bubbles, blowing the assassin away. Wallach then calmly says, “When you’re gonna shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.” I’m thinking that the time for talking with progressives is long past.

    Note to self: always be armed in the shower.

    And, Han shot first.

  16. nick says:

    “And, Han shot first.”

    Of course he did. Greedo announced his intention to kill Han quite clearly. Han is not stupid, and he has a reckless disregard for the rules. Also, even talking aliens aren’t people.

    I worked in the entertainment industry. Anyone who would have their film work considered to be art should be hammering Lucas for making changes after the fact.

    YOU DON’T REVISE A WORK OF ART.

    Therefore, Lucas doesn’t consider Starwars movies to be art.

    I have a hard time watching them anyway now with all the revisions. Bah, better things to do with my time.

    nick

    Oh, restore lost scenes, issue “director’s” cuts if you want to. But this goes way beyond fixing typos. It goes beyond retconning. The only other worse example that springs to mind is when The Who’s Tommy was re-released. What a heap that was, all do to the changes.

  17. Lynn says:

    I wonder how much longer normal people are going to continue trying to talk with progressives.

    I still want to open Medicare in the USA to all citizens. Does that make me a Progressive?

  18. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Maybe. Why on earth would you want to do that? I suspect you’re buying into prog propaganda about how efficient Medicare is. The reason for that “efficiency” is that Medicare shifts the cost burden to doctors and medical practices. Primary care physicians and internists are already going bankrupt at a frightening rate. And you want to expand this mess to cover everyone?

  19. Lynn says:

    Maybe. Why on earth would you want to do that? I suspect you’re buying into prog propaganda about how efficient Medicare is. The reason for that “efficiency” is that Medicare shifts the cost burden to doctors and medical practices. Primary care physicians and internists are already going bankrupt at a frightening rate. And you want to expand this mess to cover everyone?

    Because federal law has given the hospitals the requirement to serve regardless of ability to pay. We call that an unfunded mandate here in Texas.

    Of course, we could rescind the federal law mandating the requirement to serve everyone who shows up in an ER. Like that is going to happen.

  20. OFD says:

    “And you want to expand this mess to cover everyone?”

    The other fly in that ointment is the current blurring, deliberately and with malice aforethought, between genuine citizens and those in various gray areas and not-so-gray areas. i.e., when illegal aliens are allowed on juries, given motor vehicle operator licenses, allowed to pass the bar and become lawyers, serve on government bodies at various levels, etc., etc, and if they come here illegally and their children are born here, the latter automatically become citizens. WTF?

    From what Mrs. OFD has seen of Medicare and Medicaid, in a professional capacity for decades, is that they’re gigantic piles of rancid dog poop. The usual “solution” for government in such cases is to pile on even more dog poop, as we all have ample cause to know.

    Case in point: stricter gun laws aren’t cutting down on “gun violence?” Let’s gin up some more gun laws!

    Communism isn’t working and a lotta people got hurt and killed by it (many, many tens of millions, dwarfing what the Nazis did)? Why, let’s keep trying it until we get it right!

    Thus the progs.

  21. dkreck says:

    Great news! In California we no longer have illeagal aliens.
    Undocummented immigrants or undocumented democrats as I call them.
    Notice the other laws they are passing out here.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/immigration-reform-2015-alien-removed-california-labor-code-gov-jerry-brown-signs-2047442

    Aside from the “alien” bill, Brown signed legislation that allows high school students who are legal permanent residents to sign up to work at polling sites to help Spanish speaking voters on election days.

    ‘Help’ like non-citizens voting for dems?

  22. Bill says:

    “The reason for that “efficiency” is that Medicare shifts the cost burden to doctors and medical practices.”

    The normal state of affairs is that commercial insurance pays 25% more than Medicare allows, and Medicare only pays 80% of what it allows.

  23. OFD says:

    “‘Help’ like non-citizens voting for dems?”

    If the Repubs weren’t the Stupid Half of the War Party, they would have been working to get millions of potential voters emigrating here from Russia, the Balkans, etc. to counter the hordes swarming up from below the Rio Grande. And they would have been taking care of us poor working- and middle-class scum much better than they did, let alone continually stab us in the back. Too late now.

    They have sown the wind…

    …and we all shall reap the whirlwind.

  24. MrAtoz says:

    Today’s thread is making me sick. Can I get disability for that? Before the crimmigrants take it all.

  25. dkreck says:

    Well just because it’s topical, I was in the ER last night. Had started feeling bad last week and come Friday night had ‘distress in the lower tract’. Sat and Sun no fun but by Mon morning felt pretty good. Had a small but normal diner. Had some leftovers for lunch but by 5pm was having pain in my stomach. By 6:30 it was too much and went to ER. Really some of the worst pain I’ve ever had. Turns out I was severely dehydrated which seemed odd as I had been drinking water. Doc said I just wasn’t catching up. 2L iv and some narcotics got me out by 11:30. Not bad for an ER.

    So, enough of that the real tale is how to beat that damn ER crush. When we got there the place was packed with many waiting outside as well as in. Most probably not in real need of an ER. One question at the check-in is do you have any cardiac issues. Well basically I do. Last time I went to ER was 2.5 years ago for chest pains. I got in fast that time because I took an $1800 taxi.
    This hospital however is now designated a fast cardiac intervention unit and as soon as I said that they took me right back. EKG, blood draw, slight wait then chest x-ray and quick CAT scan of lower abdomen then to an ER room. Usual check and prep by an RN and doc came in about an hour after my entering the room Rest of time was spent on just getting the IV to drain in.
    So I would always avoid an ER if I could (and chest pains are never to be ignored) but when you really need one be sure to note anything you can to get in fast.

  26. OFD says:

    R U feeling bettuh now, Mr. dkreck?

    A couple of years ago I had to hit our local ER due to significant breathing problems, thanks to exacerbated bronchial asthma and no inhaler on hand. When I got there they asked about chest pains and breathing right away, and I told them that my efforts to breath were coinciding with chest pain, not sure if related or not. They whisked me right in there and got the albuterol going immediately. Man, what a relief! They gave me a second jolt but that was probably too much, ’cause I hurled a little bit. While leaving, A-OK finally, I was high as a kite.

    I still get a little wheezy from time to time but now I have the inhaler close by to knock it out.

    Not to worry, folks; something is gonna come along sooner or later to take us out. The statistical odds in my family are, in order, senility of some kind (already fah advanced with me), cancer, or gunshot. I’m hoping for the latter in preference to the former, given the choice, but would just as soon go off in my sleep, with zero pain or even discomfort, lol.

  27. MrAtoz says:

    Hidden video on YouTube documents HILLARY!s email server scrub.

  28. DadCooks says:

    “Today’s thread is making me sick.”

    Welcome to the United States of Dystopia.

    Regarding CA, I recall recently seeing that more than 50% of all drivers licenses are being issued to the “citizenship challenged™”. WA State is not far behind.

  29. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Yeah, I just watched that from a link on instapundit.

    My problems, as usual, are that I understand spoken German well enough to follow what they’re actually saying, and I know too much about the Nazi era. I almost sprayed my Coke through my nose when in the subtitles the guy addressed an Obergruppenführer as “colonel”.

  30. OFD says:

    Ja, as a Wehrmacht colonel, haha.

    It was pretty funny, though.

    She’s not only gonna walk, she’s gonna hippity-hop on them cankles all the way to the same Oral Office where Larry was spraying various bodily fluids all over the room all those years ago.

  31. dkreck says:

    OFD – feeling much better – modern narcotics are a true miracle. RN said it was about 7x stronger than morphine. Don’t recall the name but it was injected into the iv and took effect fast. I slept during most of the iv drip. Got up and walked out on my own however. Damn iv I was up about five time to relieve myself between 12 – 6.

  32. Lynn says:

    “The reason for that “efficiency” is that Medicare shifts the cost burden to doctors and medical practices.”

    The normal state of affairs is that commercial insurance pays 25% more than Medicare allows, and Medicare only pays 80% of what it allows.

    You forgot about Medicaid which pays 80% of what Medicare pays. Apparently our local ERs here in Fort Bend County, one of the most prosperous counties in the USA, are 60% Medicaid patients. That means that the hospitals are quickly going broke. I do not want to wake up some morning soon and see that our ERs have all been closed.

    Yup, the whole thing is a mess and I am ready to move to Single Payer. They have ruined Health Insurance for the rest of us with Obolacare. The federal government broke it, that means that they now own it.

    Not Single Provider (i.e. Canada and Britain), no freaking way.

  33. Bill says:

    “Not Single Provider (i.e. Canada and Britain), no freaking way.”

    Single payer will inevitably lead to single provider, as the low payments will force everyone else out of business.

  34. Miles_Teg says:

    I don’t understand the rationale behind open carry: it makes the good guys targets and warns the bad guys who to avoid.

  35. Chad says:

    Yup, the whole thing is a mess and I am ready to move to Single Payer. They have ruined Health Insurance for the rest of us with Obolacare. The federal government broke it, that means that they now own it.

    That was the plan all along. Get their foot in the door and slowly turn Obamacare into a national health care system. There are so many people out there with medical bills hanging over their head that popular support for it is definitely there. It’s only a matter of time now. As they legislate fixes for the shortcomings of Obamacare they will take us toward a single-payer system bit by bit until we wake up one day with “free” medical care for all.

  36. OFD says:

    “I don’t understand the rationale behind open carry: it makes the good guys targets and warns the bad guys who to avoid.”

    +100

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    “That was the plan all along. Get their foot in the door and slowly turn Obamacare into a national health care system.”

    There it is.

  37. nick says:

    @Miles,

    There are Constitutional reasons to support it.

    It is much faster to draw from open carry than concealed. If you need it, you sometimes need it RIGHT F-ING NOW.

    It is a lot more comfortable when working outdoors.

    In some states it would do away with ‘gotcha’ persecution of CC holders who allow even an accidental glimpse of the cc hardware, like Florida.

    It would simplify the rules for in-car carry or transportation in some places.

    It would probably simplify the rules for licensed security personnel, who aren’t CHL holders (they usually have to carry in a bag, even if in uniform – and thus a target – to and from duty assignment.)

    It would help ‘normalize’ guns in public.

    That said,

    It IS confrontational in many cases. I did it in AZ when it was the only legal option, but you get every d!ckhead and drunk challenging you. It is an a$$hole magnet.

    nick

  38. OFD says:

    “It is much faster to draw from open carry than concealed.”

    Depends on concealment method, holster, experience, and practice.

    “It would help ‘normalize’ guns in public.”

    Depends on which public and where. Not a problem in rural areas, generally, and in certain states regardless.

    “It is an a$$hole magnet.”

    In my experience, this cancels out the advantages in populated areas. And why, indeed, advertise yourself as armed and (potentially) dangerous to all and sundry?

  39. Lynn says:

    That was the plan all along. Get their foot in the door and slowly turn Obamacare into a national health care system. There are so many people out there with medical bills hanging over their head that popular support for it is definitely there. It’s only a matter of time now. As they legislate fixes for the shortcomings of Obamacare they will take us toward a single-payer system bit by bit until we wake up one day with “free” medical care for all.

    Yup, the progs have won on “free” health care. And the law that opened the ERs to all comers was passed by Congress under Reagan. I guess even the great one got snookered on the costs of that:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act

  40. ech says:

    Not Single Provider (i.e. Canada and Britain), no freaking way.

    Canada is single payer – one insurance plan for all in a given province. And all health care providers are part of it. No way to opt out.

    England has socialized medicine, a government run health system. There is a private medical care system available for those who can afford it, though.

  41. MrAtoz says:

    Now the State Department claims classified email was “sent” to Cankles, but she didn’t “send” anyway. Here comes the scapegoat. Whoever sent the email will be shot. Probably by Cankles. Someone called it the “definition of is” defense. lol And Cankles supposedly said specifically she didn’t send any classified email in her statement. What a hosebag.

  42. ech says:

    Now the State Department claims classified email was “sent” to Cankles, but she didn’t “send” anyway.
    It doesn’t matter that it was sent to her. She stored it on a non-secure system, which is an offense.

  43. OFD says:

    “She stored it on a non-secure system, which is an offense.”

    Yo, it don’t matter none. They’re different from you and me.

    And here is just ONE among their list of known and alleged criminal activities stretching back DECADES:

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/is-arkansas-covering-up-the-clintons-trail-of-criminal-activities/

  44. MrAtoz says:

    I can just hear Cankles cackling all the way to the Oval Office, while BJ starts drooling over the interns. God I hope Cankles really fucked up her brain when she fell. Please die biatch.

  45. OFD says:

    Her brain was probably effed up pretty good by high skool, going by what Mr. DadCooks remembers. ’cause we all know that pot is a “gateway drug” and the Klintons got busy with coke smuggling ops down in Arkansas during Larry’s capers as gov there.

    It’s like the female version of Dorian Gray, only there ain’t no picture; her corruption and evil chit shows up in her corporeal presence immediately.

  46. OFD says:

    Stupid Half of Party ain’t gonna save us, no, sir.

    http://taxicabdepressions.com/?p=3060

    Betrayed repeatedly and consistently for decades now.

  47. Rolf Grunsky says:

    @ech,
    Canada is single payer – one insurance plan for all in a given province. And all health care providers are part of it. No way to opt out.

    I can only speak for how it works in Ontario but it is more or less the same in all provinces and territories.

    All procedures that are covered by the provincial plan must be billed to the plan at the rate negotiated between the province and the OMA (Ontario Medical Association). If it is not an insured procedure then the patient is billed at the going rate.

    For a doctor to practice in Ontario, they must have an OHIP billing number. Government policy for the last few years has been to not give numbers to new doctors in the major municipal areas.Ostensibly this is to get doctors in to rural or smaller towns. The result is that it can hard to find a doctor in areas like Toronto or Ottawa. But then there are always the walk-in clinics or the hospital emergency .

    While there is a single payer, for insured procedures, you are free to choose any provider that is willing to provide the service.

    Health care is a provincial responsibility. The Federal Government has no direct role in health care. What the government has done is pass the Canada Health Act that states how and what the provinces will deliver. They enforce this by providing money (as transfer payments) to the provinces. As long as the provinces abide by the federal law they get the money. This has been an ongoing source of acrimony ever since it was implemented. The provinces guard their jurisdictions vigorously. They would never allow the federal government to get involved with health care as has happened in the US.

  48. brad says:

    “I do know that a bunch of the leftist fools living in Massachusetts decided to move to New Hampshire because of the lower tax rate.”

    That was already happening back in the mid-80s, when I lived near Boston. Typical: liberals who love all the services provided by socialist MA, but aren’t so fond of the price tag. So they move to NH, and immediately start to pervert the local government. At the time, I felt we needed a border fence there worse than one next to Mexico.

    It’s a real shame, because they vastly outnumber the very few Free-Staters who actually uprooted and moved there. No surprise, but it turned out to be easy to click “yes” on an Internet questionnaire, but a lot harder to actually take action.

    Re Hillary, I am absolutely gob smacked that the government is pursuing this at all. I was certain that any investigation would have been called off. Of course, if she has even a hint of a clue, and even a halfway competent IT staff, that server has long since been scrubbed and re-scrubbed, and will be squeaky clean.

    That said, this has a real chance of derailing her presidential plans. Dunno why the FBI investigation wasn’t quashed, but it wasn’t. This hands free ammunition to any political opponent who wants to use it. It may actually be risky for the D’s to nominate her now.

  49. nick says:

    If she had a competent IT staff, they wouldn’t have allowed the server in the first place.

    I’m betting she had some other semi-skilled person set it up. The progs tend to believe that all people are interchangeable, and don’t like to pay for true expertise.

    Even if they did do a ‘secure erase’ using some bit of freeware, did they secure delete the slack or free space? That is something even savvy users often forget.

    Given that it’s been described in the press that she turned over ‘some’ emails and deleted the rest, it DOESN’T sound like she just secure deleted the pst files. It sounds like someone went thru her outlook file and deleted or moved stuff, leaving the ones she felt like turning over. I’m not an outlook expert, but knowing MS, there are a dozen places where ghosts of every email might be. Inbox, any folder she moved it to, any outlook temp backups, caches, etc, hopefully all overlooked. And then there is human nature. It is very hard to REALLY delete stuff you think might be important later, so I’d guess that she made a backup before deleting stuff.

    As her political position gets tenuous, someone she’s wronged will see the chance to get some blood, and will spill the beans.

    nick

    Well, that’s my hope anyway. I don’t think real justice will be done, but maybe her reputation can be destroyed.

  50. OFD says:

    As I mentioned above, the email is nothing. Or at least it’s considered nothing by the powers. They’ll keep on keeping on, while the media sideshow whets the derps’ appetite for more b.s. entertainment. Her and Larry have gotten away many times with fah worse stuff over the decades.

    Trump is a sideshow; Cankles’s emails another one; and Sanders having to leave the stage in Portland or wherever when shouted down by wacky SJW types is yet another. The Machine rolls on, and we’ll get Empress Cankles for eight long and terrible years.

    Bring it, I say.

  51. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    The NSA can recover data from drives that have been securely erased, or so I’m told.

    Of course, they’ll never recover data from a drive that I’ve securely erased, because I physically destroy the platters with a sledge hammer or bullets and then put them under a pile of thermite and ignite it. All that’s left is a molten mass of molecules.

  52. OFD says:

    I don’t have any particular data that I need to go to that level destroying. Any other stuff on my machines is pretty benign and they can get at it anytime they like, if they haven’t already. Only secure box is in a locked room with no net connection. Or maybe inside a Faraday cage in a locked room, etc.

    But we can make the buggers work for their data.

  53. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I’m not concerned about the government. As you say, they already have all the data. I just don’t want to discard a hard drive that might have personal financial information and other stuff.

  54. brad says:

    I dunno about data recovery from erased drives. There was some IT publication a few years back that offered a whopping prize to any data recovery company that could actually demonstrate such a recovery. They had no takers. Not saying it’s not possible, but I’m skeptical.

    On the other hand, the idea that there might be ghosts of data in a PST file is very believable. We had a fun adventure here with my son about two weeks ago: he had a practical exam, which he had to finish off with a written exam. The exam was some horrible .DOCX form, where he filled in essay-like answers into individual boxes. He finished filling it in (six hours time) and saved it. When his boss checked the form, all of the fields were empty. You can imagine the panic.

    Anyhow, he told his boss that I’m a IT professor by daylight, and he was allowed to bring me a copy of the file. All of the data was still there, just not displayed. I had wrote a little program to scan the file for text and save it into a text-file. With a lot of copy-and-paste, he had his exam back. Lucky duck.

    So, yes, MS formats are a weird mess. PST files more than most.

  55. Ray Thompson says:

    I just don’t want to discard a hard drive that might have personal financial information and other stuff.

    Years ago a friend of mine bought a used computer at a computer expo where they were selling all manner of computer stuff. I think it was about 1998 or so. The computer booted up just fine so he purchased it and brought it to his house.

    I then did some exploring on the computer. The computer used to belong to a lawyer who did taxes for some people that were fairly well off. I was able to find a couple years of tax returns for his clients. I also found legal documents that were for some other clients. Most of the stuff had enough personal information, especially the tax returns, to compromise the person’s identity. Some of the legal documents had some embarrassing information.

    I wanted my friend to turn all the information to the bar association for North Carolina and have the lawyer penalized for failing to protect personal information and attorney client privilege. I also wanted my friend to contact the lawyers clients and inform those clients that he was now in possession of their very personal information.

    My friend decided otherwise and called the lawyer and informed the lawyer of what had been found. The lawyer was pissed because he had traded the computer in for a better model and the place that he used said they would destroy the data. My response to my friend is that it is incumbent on the lawyer to protect his data, not the computer store. I still recommended contacting the bar association and the clients. My friend did not and asked if I would eliminate all the data.

    The lawyer should have lost his license and been disbarred from ever practicing law. Too bad because it is not often that you can squeeze a lawyer by the balls and there is nothing the lawyer can do about the situation.

  56. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Huh. I’d have bought a new hard drive, installed it for the friend, and then sold back the original hard drive to the lawyer. Or perhaps just kept my mouth shut and used whatever insider information I’d found.

  57. ech says:

    The NSA can recover data from drives that have been securely erased, or so I’m told.

    Yep. What they depend on is that the writes are never exactly to the same area on the platters, so there are fringe areas that can be read, even if it is written over. I’m told that the process involves opening the drive in a clean room and taking out the platters. It’s very labor intensive and therefore expensive. I doubt that anyone other than the TLAs or a few selected contractors can do it.

    I know that when I worked at a secure site on classified projects we had to send magnetic media to a special DOD facility for destruction. The drives were melted down and tapes/floppies burned. In the case of disk drives, we had a utility that would write alternating patterns over the drive sectors a number of times (16?) with all 0s, all 1s, alternating 10101010 and 0101010101. It overwrote everything, including bad blocks, spares and the root sectors. If we did that, the drives were available for use in the same secure area by other projects.

  58. brad says:

    @ech: I know the theory, but as I understand it, modern hard drives have the tracks so close together that there is almost no fringe area. In fact, the newest “shingle” concept just coming out actually overlaps the tracks. Add to that the random overwrites that most secure-erase software does, and I really am not convinced that it’s possible. On the drives of 20 years ago, sure, but today?

    OTOH, ya never really know what a $billion will buy some alphabet-soup agency.

  59. nick says:

    Well, there are usually easier ways to get it anyway.

    Every email she sent or received involved another person. And they are unlikely to have scragged their drive. In fact, any of the interesting ones are likely legally backed up according to fed law at some .gov agency.

    Many of those people don’t like her. As her stock falls, more of those will come forward.

    From there, it’s a straightforward investigation. If they can do it for SarBox, then they can certainly do it for her.

    nick

    WILL they? Eh, who knows.

    I’m gonna go look at some hardware at an estate sale. (Where, by the way, you can often buy a pc that hasn’t been redacted in any way.)( I’ve only been to ONE where the deceased had any plan for that at all, and it involved a 3 ring binder with a list of online accounts and passwords. I found it, and gave it to the seller to pass to the family.)

  60. OFD says:

    At my last full-time decent job at Big Blue over two years ago we destroyed hard drives by feeding them into a big-ass grinding machine that ground them to powder.

    As Mr. nick sez, the Cankles emails are all over the place; anything might turn up now by anybody. Ya gotta wonduh, though, how fah the Feds will take this case. And why or why not.

    I’m waiting for what they’re planning for Sanders and Trump.

  61. DadCooks says:

    People who cross the Clintons have a high incidence of suicide.

    Remember, Hillary has Chicago roots and the Mob no longer has any scruples.

  62. OFD says:

    Yeah, it’s either suicide, or accidents, like plane crashes outta nowhere. What’re the odds, math geniuses here?

    Yet the Wiki doesn’t mention her ability to score the best pot….

    “She participated in sports such as swimming and baseball and earned numerous awards as a Brownie and Girl Scout.[10][11] She attended Maine East High School, where she participated in student council, the school newspaper, and was selected for National Honor Society.[2][12] For her senior year, she was redistricted to Maine South High School, where she was a National Merit Finalist and graduated in the top five percent of her class of 1965…”

    And then on to Wellesley and Yale, where she and Larry hit it off big-time…

  63. DadCooks says:

    Actually she was redistricted to Maine West, but she would have none of that as that was not where most of her clique went so she whined to her father (who was on the School Board) and got reassigned to Maine South where all the cool rich kids went.

    Here Wiki has been well edited to be politically correct. You really didn’t expect it to say that she was a member of the Golden Bong Club did you?

    Most of her “accomplishments” were more style than substance (I was on the Student Council and newspaper with her her last year at Maine East). BTW, she was real homely looking in a swim suit and had cankles back then as well as a big butt and that hideous laugh/cackle.

  64. MrAtoz says:

    You really didn’t expect it to say that she was a member of the Golden Bong Club did you?

    It worked for Barack “Choom Gang” Obola. I wonder if race has anything to do with it?

  65. DadCooks says:

    But her daddy would not have approved. His little angel could do no wrong, even though she routinely called him an SOB during 9th period (that was when the school paper met, last period of the day).

  66. OFD says:

    “…she was real homely looking in a swim suit and had cankles back then as well as a big butt and that hideous laugh/cackle.”

    I’ve seen early pics of her and have been gobsmacked ever since over how Larry somehow ended up with her at Yale; his ol’ yaller hound dawg behavior since then is understandable, but why that initial attraction?? And it’s blatantly obvious she’s had Daddy issues her whole life; what a nutbag.

  67. SteveF says:

    but why that initial attraction?

    Easily answered. DadCooks already said her daddy was rich.

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