08:54 – Our cities are coming apart at the seams. “Police departments across the country that have spent years boasting about plummeting crime numbers are now scrambling to confront something many agencies have not seen in decades: more bloodshed.” And it’s not just the largest cities, either, nor is it just murder rates that are skyrocketing. Any town that has a significant underclass population is at risk. The progressives are doing their best to make it impossible for police to do their jobs, which should be and always was to protect decent people from the underclass leeches.
The eurocrats are making no progress on the Greek crisis, basically because none of the EU leaders believe the Greeks can be trusted. The Greeks have done nothing but lie. They lied their way into the EU originally, and they’ve done nothing since but make promises that they had no ability or intention to keep. The rest of the EU has finally come to realize that you can tell the Greeks are lying if their lips are moving. The Greeks make Joe Isuzu look honest.
As far as I can see, the only way out of this for Greece, if there is any way out, is for the EU to abolish government at all levels in Greece and appoint a receiver to oversee the bankruptcy of Greece and the auctioning off of Greek assets to pay off the creditors. Greece will have to become an EU colony for the foreseeable future, ceding all local control. Greece hasn’t had a functioning government in living memory and has no prospect of ever developing one on its own. It’s time to recognize that and bring in a non-Greek to get things back on a business-like footing.
well, I heard this before, governement abolish, outside supervision, they always lie,bla, bla, Truth is everyone lied, Greece, EU, Goldman, ones writing, anothers reading and the last signing.
US Govnt, Enron & Andersen was the same kabuki, but I cant see Goldman busted, and, the three were partners, so, if you plan to punish, punish all or, pay again.
Ask Lynn, he lives in Texas (Tejas is coming back), he must know at first hand Enron, new economy bla bla
” is for the EU to abolish government at all levels in Greece and appoint a receiver to oversee the bankruptcy of Greece and the auctioning off of Greek assets to pay off the creditors. Greece will have to become an EU colony for the foreseeable future, ceding all local control.”
This is pretty much what was proposed, except the current gov keeps their jobs without any real power. “Complete to privatization of public assets” means auction them off to the bankers. They haven’t been sovereign since they joined, haven’t governed, and have already sold what they can.
nick
Not true. When this mess first hit the news in 2010, I put in a $10 bid on the Parthenon. I figured I’d have it disassembled, hauled back here, and use it as the basis for a theme park. They didn’t even bother to reply.
“The rest of the EU has finally come to realize that you can tell the Greeks are lying if their lips are moving.”
It dates from that horse that certain parties left outside the gates of Troy.
But Mr. ayjblog is correct; the Greeks are not the only liars in this situation and the Eurocrats in Brussels AND Germany have a lot to answer for. We are certainly in no position of superiority to anyone over there in terms of morals and ethics and lying. And we may eventually end up in even worse shape; faced with what the Greeks are facing, our derps rioting will make theirs look like a Sunday school picnic. As mentioned above, our cities are unraveling, and with increasing violence; I would not care to be living near any of them.
Dull sunlight here so far today, temps in the 80s, not much of a breeze, and possible T-storms later; typical July. Mrs. OFD off to Traverse City, Michigan for the week. MIL is up in northern NB, and Princess is allegedly working her terrible and demeaning minimum-wage ferry job out on the lake south of here.
I’ll get a little busy with the chainsaw later out back, maybe, if I feel like it, and otherwise just putter around the house today; the Sabbath is ‘sposed to be a day of REST, ain’t it??
@RBT, I think selling off the parthenon would wake up even the most sleepy greek. Selling their ports, airports, roads, services contracts, etc is invisible to the public. Even here, Indiana sold their tollroads to a middle eastern consortium, and there was the brouhaha over selling that port to the Saudis… Infrastructure never matters to most people until it’s gone.
We already have roving bands of mauraders, and outside the big cities too.
Well, look at that, I was gonna repost the link to the AZ murder by the 14-18yo thugs, but it’s already off the main page. No pix of the death squad, but I’m guessing shades of brown, just on the names and the lack of pix.
So lets get meta for a minute. Now that they’ve milked the Jenner and Kardasian stories dry what is leading the distract-o-matic? A wedding to join 2 powerful and rich families. Wonder how long that will lead the news? Well, while it does, pay attention to the guest list. No one on it should be trusted. [And is there any more evidence needed that there are 3 worlds that barely intersect on this planet; the ordinary hard working folks, the poor and underclass, and the super rich? A BILLION dollar wedding. Jesu Cristo.]
Jenner and Kim move into the next phase- jenner is attacked by talk show host (right wing intolerant badthinking ungood cismale) kim posts yet another photo of her fat @ss and this time no one drools. Expect to see a lot of concern trolling as they slide down the ramp of media approval, until they can be resurrected.
The establishment must be getting nervous about Trump. Look at the picture they used from his rally– he looks like his head is going to explode. Compare and contrast to the photographic depiction of 0bola- google obama halo pictures if you don’t immediately understand. What will be the talking points? rambling, incoherent, out of control, crazy? Expect a lot more unflattering pix and the most inflammatory sound bites.
And while I’m taking a step back, WTF is up with the Pope? I know the RCchurch has taken a turn to the left, at least since the sixties and with their focus on Latin America, but SERIOUSLY? I haven’t paid much attention since leaving the church, but WTF is going on there? The media loves this guy so that makes him suspect, and what he is reported saying and doing, he looks like Hugo Chavez.
nick
file under “why we prep.”
The irony is that Tsipras, having already gone belly-up to the eurocrats, is now pushing a “compromise”. Apparently, he’s too stupid to understand that any compromise will involve Greece doing exactly what it’s told to do. There’s no give-and-take here. There never has been.
I’d like to see Greece crash out of the euro and the EU and find out what happens to deadbeats who’ve been living far beyond their means for many years and expecting other people to pay for it. In fairness, the Greeks should have the standard of living of Somalians, and it may come to that. The German “leaders” have been talking for a couple weeks now about organizing humanitarian relief convoys to provide food and medicine to Greeks. I suspect we’ll see those rolling before too much longer.
As Catherine Aird said, “If you can’t be a good example — then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning.”
Some Univision hack on CNN crowing about how unbiased they are, but won’t interview Trump because of what he said. Talk about a racist, biased, scumbag. That’s what they call a reporter.
Trump 2016! WWTD ™
And in addition to the financial pressure, Greece is being swamped with
refugeesmuslim invaders from africa.Oh, and one of the terms was a demand to reduce their military spending. The only collateral a nation has is its ability to tax its people. Get rid of your military and you lose that. I guess the Eurocrats are more interested in reducing Greek ability to resist invasion than in their ability to collect taxes. (Does no good to have physical assets in another country as collateral or private property, if that country has an army and can say “well it’s all ours again, go scratch.” see also Cuba)
BTW anyone else notice this?
“NAACP ends its 15-year boycott of South Carolina after the state takes down Confederate flag from capitol grounds”
Apparently they had a boycott! Who knew? I wonder if they are still boycotting AZ for their refusal to have MLK day be a paid holiday?
nick
Thanks OFD, but, Goldman, dont forget them, they were like the accountans of Capone in this kabuki
Nope, Pope is not Chavez, forget it, he was (as history shows) member of right handed peronism, and, peronism chooses bronze between gold and bronze, always, for those adept to comparisons, Huey Long or Andrew Jackson, or, Trump………..
rants cooking barbecue (bah, not barbecue, but long to explain)
“Thanks OFD, but, Goldman, dont forget them, they were like the accountans of Capone in this kabuki…”
Indeed. And one of their bonzes, or was it one of the capos from Lehman Brothers, was seen coming and going from the Oral Orifice at the WH a couple of dozen times over the course of the previous financial “crisis,” to the point he just came and went at will, no security, just strolled on in like he….owned the place…
“I know the RCchurch has taken a turn to the left, at least since the sixties and with their focus on Latin America, but SERIOUSLY? I haven’t paid much attention since leaving the church, but WTF is going on there?”
The pendulum has evidently swung round again; takes decades. Yeah, they had the guitar masses and liberation “theology” of the 1960s-80s, and then Johannes Paulus Secundus rolled in and things started getting better, for lots of people, including most of eastern Europe. Benedictus was also a nice breath of fresh air, and the hatred and loathing for him was pretty much the opposite of what is rendered in the media for the current pope, who many of us are not real happy about so far. Other than to mention that he hasn’t backed off one iota from genuine Roman Catholic doctrine in regard to many issues beloved of the progs and libtards. Despite what he rambles on about in various interviews and then gets taken completely out of context, as per SOP in the media, and splashed all over the place. “Oh look, the Pope loves gays and is all for gay marriage!” “Hey, look; the Pope hates capitalism, too, just like us!”
Bullshit.
But again, a bunch of us find it odd that Benedict sort of retired, and now there are two popes, evidently. Figuring out the Vatican stuff can wrap you up for a lifetime; I ain’t gonna get into it that deep; others have, like the late Malachi Martin, formerly S.J. Rest assured the media will end its romance with Francis if and when he finally spells out what he really believes and intends to do. Or maybe not; maybe he’s actually a Chavez clone and ‘the smoke of Satan’ is back in the Church, as the late Pope John XXIII once said.
As far as I can see, the only way out of this for Greece, if there is any way out, is for the EU to abolish government at all levels in Greece and appoint a receiver to oversee the bankruptcy of Greece and the auctioning off of Greek assets to pay off the creditors.
Not gonna happen. I expect the drachma to be released any day now. I am just wondering who is going to give XXXX loan them money after they repudiate their Euro debt. Obola to the rescue?
We’ve already given them money. LOTS of people gave them money. They used it to bail out the banks and shift the debt to the taxpayers, or that’s my takeaway.
Someone will give them money. Someone always does. It just takes the right incentives. Maybe selling citizenship? Reforming banking laws to hide income? High bond yields? People with bankruptcies get loans. Look at all the payday loan, title loan, cash express places here. They KNOW that they won’t get money back from all of those folks. I heard a pawnshop owner say he sells the same items back and forth to the same people all the time. Yet, the money they get seems to keep them in business. I don’t know the names of the firms, but I’m sure there is the equivalent for bankrupt governments.
People with lots of money feel that they have to keep it working, so there are always counterparties, no matter how bad the deal looks to you and me…
n ick
And it’s not just the largest cities, either, nor is it just murder rates that are skyrocketing. Any town that has a significant underclass population is at risk. The progressives are doing their best to make it impossible for police to do their jobs, which should be and always was to protect decent people
Are you sure that people are not cleaning up their blood feuds since the amount of active police is declining?
Just finished replacing six fluorescent shop light fixtures with LED fixtures. The two in the mower shed was particularly annoying in the winter (yes, I need to get items in the winter) as they would take several minutes to reach full brightness. The shop lights in the garage required a grounded shield to operate properly. Sometimes when it was really humid the lights would balk and not turn on until you flicked the switch a couple of times.
Had three in the garage, two in the mower shed, one in the pool shed.
So now the those problems are gone. Instant on, no flaky operation in high humidity, brighter than the florescent and the tubes will not break as easily as the others. Expensive relative to florescent fixtures ($35.00) at Costco. But probably worth it over the long run in terms of better operation and lower operational cost. Will I get my money back? Never. But I won’t be annoyed either.
@Ray – I have been replacing my fluorescent tubes with those Costco LED tubes too. I particularly like what they have done for the light quality in the kitchen. More than pleased with the results. I had the same problems as you with my shed and garage lights.
IIRC they claim a 45 year life so they may just outlast me 😉
I came across this explanation of The European Bailout Package
It is a slow day in a little Greek Village. The rain is beating down and the streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
On this particular day a rich German tourist is driving through the village, stops at the local hotel and lays a €100 note on the desk, telling the hotel owner he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one to spend the night.
The owner gives him some keys and, as soon as the visitor has walked upstairs, the hotelier grabs the €100 note and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.
The butcher takes the €100 note and runs down the street to repay his debt to the pig farmer. The pig farmer takes the €100 note and heads off to pay his bill at the supplier of feed and fuel. The guy at the Farmers’ Co-op takes the €100 note and runs to pay his drinks bill at the taverna. The publican slips the money along to a salesman drinking at the bar, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer him goods on credit. The salesman then rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill to the hotel owner with the €100 note.
The hotel proprietor then places the €100 note back on the counter so the rich traveller will not suspect anything. At that moment the traveller comes down the stairs, picks up the €100 note, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, pockets the money, and leaves town.
No one produced anything.
No one earned anything.
However, the whole village is now out of debt and looking to the future with a lot more optimism.
And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how the European bailout package works.
Well, some small part of the honey do list completed.
Air rifle back in working order. It needed a thorough cleaning and one rubber gasket remade. I haven’t tried to see how strong it is, but with 5 pumps it’s blowing thru plastic trashcans. I’m pretty sure it will handle a squirrel if needed.
Got the Brita filter/dispenser cleaned out, sterilized and ready to go.
WRT the earlier comment about used CO detectors. They are good for 5-7 years. The one I got for a dollar is good for 3-5 more years based on the manf date. I’m good with that. This is one of those things where I think something is better than nothing, get started and upgrade later. Like flashlights. So stick one in your car and if you are somewhere that getting stuck in snow is a real possibility, buy a new one. Otherwise, keep an eye out for used and save the money for flashlights 🙂
nick
It’s time to recognize that and bring in a non-Greek to get things back on a business-like footing.
Alexander the Great was Macedonian. The Greeks, like the French, only succeeds under foreign leadership.
So, small prepper test this evening.
Got the kids in bed, and the power went out.
Wife jumped on the facebook group for our neighborhood (running on UPS) to get the skinny. She quickly determines the extent of the outage as people in the group check in (from phones or tablets, I guess.)
I get the geni fueled and ready, and fire it up, without connecting to the house, but just to get it running. Hear a bunch of sirens so I went inside looking for my handheld scanner. PREPPER FAIL. I can’t find it. It isn’t where it belongs, nor on my desk, or any other logical place. I’m pretty sure it is here somewhere, but for now it’s gone.
Wife updates me on the extent of the outage- 1800 homes and an hour ’til projected restoration. As the light fades, she opts to NOT start the geni back up, just candles and LED lanterns for now.
I will say that the cheap LED flashlights are very good for pointing at the ceiling, one per room. They do a great job of lighting up the room. (FWIW, Selco says this is how people react for the first few weeks of an extended disaster. They want to keep light on like before and so candles, batteries, flashlights, are all valuable trade items. As the reality of a long term disaster sets in, people start to only light the area they are in, and barely at that, and the value of those items as trade goods plummets.)
Just as I got a small inverter out of my truck, to bring in with a battery and a fan, the lights came back on, 45 minutes early. Hurray for Reliant Energy. Early word is that a transformer blew, literally blowing apart several poles and dropping wire on the street at the beginning of a major distribution leg into our neighborhood. We’ll see if there is anything on the news tomorrow.
So, AAR:
Still wish I had a whole house geni with automatic transfer switch.
Wife likes candles in every room for short duration blackouts.
I need alligator clips on at least one of my small inverters, and a trickle charger on my big truck battery in the garage for the times when I just need a little quiet power without switching over the the big UPS (currently down anyway) or the very noisy geni.
I need to work on the 12 v power distro for my radios. Maybe when I finally get them organized, I’ll set up an easy to switch backup battery in the office. At a minimum, I should have the pigtails made up for when I need to run them off battery not wall warts. Again, this is all because I didn’t power the house with the geni or big UPS. It’s nice to have backups and options that are less than the big one.
I found a use I can agree with wholeheartedly for the little cheap LED flashlights. Stand them on their tails and light a whole room with the bounce light. One per room.
Kindle Fire (or paperwhite) lets you read in the dark, which is a good thing when the lights are out.
Gosh I really LOVE central air conditioning. Love the feel, love the smell, love the cool.
off to bed,
nick
“Just as I got a small inverter out of my truck, to bring in with a battery and a fan…”
You got a recommendation for inverters?
“… so I went inside looking for my handheld scanner. PREPPER FAIL. I can’t find it.”
It’s maybe at the point now, seeing how small they are nowadays, to EDC these like the handguns, with us all the time. I’ve been looking at belts, bail-out-bags, holsters, pouches, etc., and I can easily see myself right back hauling some gear on my belt daily just like when I was back on The Job. Radio, handgun, mag pouches, first aid pouch, light, etc. And in the vehicle, a decent bail-out-bag, with the external mag pouches and room for critical gear inside it, so that if suddenly having to bail from a vehicle, one grabs one’s rifle and this bag and is good to go.
“The Greeks, like the French, only succeeds under foreign leadership.”
Well hell, then; let’s give that a try here! I hereby nominate Prince Vlad, from over there in Russia; he must be tired of balancing the various factions in that mess by now. Or how about that sadistic little butterball from North Korea? If nothing else he’d be entertaining, executing Cabinet officers, Congressmen, Senators, etc. with various methods right there on the South Lawn or the Mall.
Which reminds me: Mrs. OFD keeps running into derps who want Rodham for Prez, simply and exclusively because she’s a womyn, allegedly. The wife then points out the problems with that but gets nowhere. So my brilliant suggestion is to then ask these cretins, if it’s just that they want a woman in there, how about Carly Fiorina? No? Ann Coulter? No again? Thus illustrating how they’re either completely fucking stupid or really, truly, just want another commie in there, regardless of gender.
By the way, Mrs. OFD voted for Larry Klinton twice and Obola twice; she has since rued those decisions and fallen more completely under my right-wing Svengali influence…
…no such luck with the kids yet.
But pretty good also with all four siblings.
Okay, victory over Mrs OFD. Congratulations.
Now, start working on Miss OFD. Good luck with that.
Re: inverters
I looked, compared specs, and couldn’t convince myself that any of them were any good. The big ones are VERY expensive /watt, and the small ones <100w are pretty cheap. I have the feeling that, like stereo amps and speakers, they are extremely optimistic with their power ratings. I put off buying one because I didn't want to spend the money, and couldn't decide on a model or even a price range.
In the end, I picked up several at yard and estate sales over one month last year. Haven't seen any since. It sometimes goes like that. The ones I got are a mix of brands, and sizes, but mostly small. On the other hand, I've got one in each vehicle, and a couple left over.
If I was going to buy one, I would probably stick with a name brand, likely a battery company, and avoid any with telltale 'cheapness' no matter what power/ $ performance they promise. (you get a feel from the look of the labels and the fit and finish of the case, or the gloss and texture of the plastic used, and some just feel 'cheap'.)
On the project pile I have the same idea our host expressed of turning a UPS into a straight inverter. No time so far…
That is one of the downsides of my 'thrifty' approach, I'm kind of at the mercy of what I come across. Of course, getting ANY inverter for $5 is pretty cool, and a nice luxury. And it doesn't preclude me actually shelling out retail for something that is best bought new, or that only a specific one will work. If I do buy a whole house geni, it will be new, and professionally installed, for example.
I'll add that having carried them in my trucks and having them around the house for a year now, this is the first time I felt like using one. I think a car battery and a <200w inverter would fill a nice niche between firing up the geni, and just using battery powered devices. Add a couple of usb converters, and for ~$100 you can charge just about anything, and run some convenience items… Lots of hams have built 'go boxes' that fit the bill nicely.
nick
@OFD,
LA Police Gear . com has just that sort of bag under their house brand.
http://www.lapolicegear.com/lapg-range-bag-kit.html#_ga=1.32344638.1282818815.1436763343
I don’t have the bag, but I’ve bought from them before and am very pleased with the service and quality of everything I’ve ordered.
I always check their closeouts and specials, where you can find some real bargains. Their normal pricing is good, but not the cheapest on the web.
I don’t EDC the scanner or dual band HT, but I usually throw the HT in my mechanics bag, and if I’m driving anywhere more than an hour away, I throw both in the bag. Or if I’m going to be in a crowd, then I’ll carry a little more stuff. The mechanic’s tool bag just makes it easier to carry a bunch of small stuff from my office to the truck. I don’t carry it when I’m walking around, like a man purse. I’ve got a briefcase for that!
nick
Told you so…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-13/eurozone-leaders-say-agreement-reached-at-greece-talks/6616448
Not really. All this does is unlock a bit of bridge financing if the Greeks do what they’re told by Wednesday. This deal doesn’t provide a third bailout, it merely sets the conditions that must exist before the eurocrats will agree to start talking about a third bailout.
Well, I don’t think so. The Germans and their cronies want to kick the can further down the road, not least because German industry doesn’t want the Euro appreciation that will come from the Grexit. This guy makes a pretty good case…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-25/kohler-theres-good-reason-why-a-grexit-wont-happen/6569832
Well, we’ll see won’t we?
Yes we will. And I have human nature on my side.
Hurray for Reliant Energy.
Centerpoint Energy gets the credit. They own and operate the power lines in the Houston area.
ECH, that’s right, I knew that but sometimes need reminding. In my head I thought Reliant was the real provider behind all the independents. I confused them.
nick
@nick – thanks for posting the details of your unannounced prepper drill.
This is the first area I have lived in that has had truly reliable electric (squirrels cause most of our outages, usually just 1 a year). The longest outage in the past 35 years was 90 minutes when a large substation transformer blew up (internal short). I credit that to the fact that our system is a Public Utility District and we are fortunate to have non-political people running it. The folks managing our PUB are very savy working/negotiating with our main source of power, the highly governmental Bonneville Power Administration (BPA). Our PUD also maintains spares of all the various substation transformer types so when these blow (and they will) there are immediate replacements available. It takes 6-months to a year to get a replacements for the big substation transformers. The distribution system is also set up with triple redundancy, which means an area can get its power from 3 different sources and the distribution substations can handle the load of at least 2 additional areas. BTW, the original distribution plan and methodology was developed by retired Navy folks.
Still wish I had a whole house geni with automatic transfer switch.
Me too, 20 KW size. And I cannot decide if natural gas fired or two 500 gal propane tanks. Not gonna happen though at cost of $10K.
As the light fades, she opts to NOT start the geni back up, just candles and LED lanterns for now.
I’ve got several of the Coleman ruggedized personal lanterns scattered around the house. Most are LED now. Most require 4D cells which last for 20+ hours on low.
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Family-Sized-Rugged-Lantern/dp/B006OW5GDE/
I am concerned that Sam’s Club has dropped selling packages of D cells. That is worrisome.
Started any good fires lately with those candles?
Gosh I really LOVE central air conditioning. Love the feel, love the smell, love the cool.
No joke. I remember standing in front of the window unit when I was a kid in Oklahoma, holding my arms out for a more rapid cool down. And then Mom always yelling to stop blocking the cold air. Central A/C and ceiling fans are much better.
@lynn
All the candles were in candle holder jars or other decorative holders. I take your meaning though. Fire is a big deal during grid down. Think of all the historical fires that changed our landscape and cityscape. Burns are common and really painful too. Think of all the refueling and fuel operated things you use when the grid is down. Lanterns, lamps, BBQ, colman stoves, chainsaws, geni, the list goes on. Better check the med kit for some waterjel burn sheets, and some burn care items.
Based on my research (sales calls with generator suppliers) you would be lucky to get a system for $10k installed. It sure seems like it would be less, given that you can get a generac at Costco, with a transfer switch, for $3000. Somehow, the total for install always goes MUCH higher than that. I think there is the hint of exploitation in there somewhere. If I could get the 18k system installed for $5000 total, I’d have done it already. I guess I could do it myself, but I’d rather have someone else do the gas plumbing and electrical. Someone will have to do the calcs to see if I need to upsize my main gas line to the house. I have gas hot water, heat, a fireplace, dryer, and at some point I’ll be adding a gas range. All the appliances except the range were gas when the house was built, so it’s sized for that.
We’ve got the lanterns too, and I really like my Siege(tm) by streamlight for size and light output. We’ve got one with a remote control that is very handy for bedtime during a prolonged outage. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen another like it in a couple of years.
Costco and fry’s both still sell D cells in bulk, although costco only sells duracel in that size. f-in’ duracels swell up and leak like sieves.
Batteries are another thing I buy at estate sales. There is usually a drawer full of batteries, and since they are date marked, you can be fairly sure they are good. It’s worth the risk for me to buy a dozen d cells for $2 even if a few are not good. They are $1 EACH at Home Depot. I always buy name brand in unopened packs if they are there. Refills for my lanterns are not “critical” in my book, so stocking up cheaply makes sense to me.
nick
@dadcooks,
I think there is ALWAYS something more to learn, so I’m glad to share.
It’s also a good reminder that stuff could happen at any time, it doesn’t take a currency collapse or a sneak attack to cause a problem for you personally. Most of the ‘disasters’ we actually deal with are very personal in nature, like illness or death in the family, job loss, house fire, etc. Our preps are even more useful during these prosaic disasters than in the zombie collapse that may never come.
I’m glad there were no real issues, more like ‘refinements’ but it’s good to find those things sooner rather than later.
nick
Someone will have to do the calcs to see if I need to upsize my main gas line to the house.
Not required at all. They will tee the pipe before your house pressure regulator and run a 2 psig line to your gen set. I am not sure what the nat gas supply system is at but I would not be surprised to see 80 psig.
I have a tee going to my 400,000 btu/hr hot tub / pool heater that sounds like a 737 taking off when the forced draft fans start up. Yes, multiple fans and multiple burners.
When I used to work for TXU, we ran our power plant nat gas supply lines at 200 psig and the burner feed lines at 80 psig. The main nat gas supply lines crisscrossing Texas are at 600 to 900 psig. The new European nat gas pipelines are now running at 1500 psig (yowie!).
Wow, I did an install for a special effects rig involving 40 foot flame thrower cannons, and they had the nat gas supply labeled “high pressure.” When I asked, they said it was 40 psig! I was shocked that domestic supply is only a couple of psig. When I thought about it it made sense though. In the old days, they wouldn’t even shut off the gas, just stick a rag into the pipe, do the work, and reconnect.
Just an aside, in Vegas, they’ve de-odorized the nat gas, and re-odorized it with pina colada flavor so that people won’t panic if they smell a gas leak. If you are at one of those attractions with big fire effects and you smell pina colada, GTFO!
nick
Ask Lynn, he lives in Texas (Tejas is coming back), he must know at first hand Enron, new economy bla bla
I am still perplexed as to what you are talking about here???
I was shocked that domestic supply is only a couple of psig.
The pressure of natural gas in your home is only 4 to 8 ounces/in2 (gauge) or 0.25 to 0.5 psig.