07:57 – Once again, someone who was known to have been heavily exposed to Ebola has been allowed to enter the US and wander around freely, potentially infecting others. This time, it’s a doctor who’d been working with Ebola patients in West Africa and was then allowed to fly home to New York City and go about his business for several days, riding the subway several times, going bowling, going out to dinner, and so on. NYC health authorities have said frankly that there’s no way to trace all of his contacts because there are so many of them. Just great. And, of course, the doctor has now been diagnosed with Ebola. At least he isolated himself once he noticed symptoms. Let’s hope that’s enough.
Friday, 24 October 2014
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An old country doctor from Tennessee volunteered to treat Ebola patients in Africa. After he came back, he self quarantined for 21 days. I say we make him the new surgeon general.
So again, something is fishy here. There seems to be no worry among the ruling class’s minions about this. And it’s only the cases we hear about; how many others are be-bopping around the country now?
See, on one hand it’s a highly contagious virus that is a deadly threat to the nay-shun. OTOH, guys just bop around with no protective gear and the gang down in Mordor don’t seem to give a rat’s ass.
WTF??
Mrs. OFD just informed me they took that doc to Bellevue, which she says is not in the least equipped to deal with infectious diseases (she once worked there) and is, in her words, “a fucking sieve.” And that the doc should have known better; but again, he probably did, so again, WTF???
I have thought about going to the hardware store and getting one of those full-body disposable overspray suits for painting. Paint CDC on the chest and back and then drive around town to random places and take swabs of stuff. Then come home and see what sort of craziness ensued. 🙂
Bellevue has been designated as NYC’s main venue for treating/isolating Ebola cases. It apparently has four isolation rooms now and the ability to expand that quickly to 20 if needed. Of course, I’m not sure that I’d count “isolation rooms” the same way they do.
Paint CDC on the chest and back and then drive around town to random places and take swabs of stuff.
Sounds like my sinister plan for Oak Ridge. Get a bunch of small cardboard boxes, fill them with sand, seal them, slap a radioactive label on the box, then drive around town about 3:00 AM and toss the boxes around in random locations. The town would shut down for days while hazmat crews from the plant examined each and every box.
Bob, you left out the 9 isolation units in the emergency room.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/nyregion/bellevue-hospital-center-to-treat-new-york-citys-ebola-patients.html?_r=0
Let’s see, 13 current beds with the ability to create 20 more quickly (no definition of the word quickly–could be seconds or could be weeks under construction) gives us a total of 33 slots for a city of 8,405,837.
Yep. Ought to be more than enough beds to quarantine any one who might get sick from idiot doctors traipsing all over town spreading the disease. And don’t forget those idiots at the UN who can’t tell the difference between diplomatic immunity and disease immunity who are also likely to spread the disease.
Actually, I was just struck with a brilliant idea. Why not isolate/quarantine anyone, including US citizens, who have traveled to West Africa for six weeks at Guantanamo? They already have individual cells, and I’m sure the terrorists there wouldn’t mind sharing.
Paint CDC on the chest and back and then drive around town to random places and take swabs of stuff.
In my scenario, the next fashion trend in New York will be bunny suits and respirators for everyone. Wonder how long it will take the criminal element to realize they can put on their bunny suit and respirator, walk in, rob a store or bank and simply melt into the crowd of bunny suits filling the streets.
Even if caught once they get outside the door, will the eyewitnesses be able to identify the perpetrators without perjuring themselves? Will the jury accept the eyewitness testimony beyond a reasonable doubt?
Bob, I had that thought about Gitmo several weeks ago.
I had to discard the idea, though, once I realized that if the terrorist generals got sick and died, we’d lose all our trade goods for redeeming captured army deserters.
Of course, sending contaminated trade goods back to their point of origin might not be such a bad idea…
I like that Gitmo idea.
And even better would be if there was a welcoming committee headed by Obola and including his Ebola Czar, the head of the CDC, and the head of the NHS. I am sure I am forgetting some other “in-dignitaries” but we can always add to the list.
My wife (who is an RN) was on vacation last week and supposedly the CDC issued new instructions to hospitals on how to treat potential Ebola patients. When she went back to work on Monday she asked about any new Government Directives. There were none. So I guess the CDC thinks we are safe in the Pacific Northwest as none of the hospitals in our little corner of paradise have received any new directives since this Ebola event started.
I still contend that we need to keep an eye on the gift from Guatemala of Enterovirus D68 that keeps on giving. If you Google the news for it you will see that there are new cases reported daily. The CDC reports 30 new cases daily. What the CDC is keeping quiet is the number of deaths and number that progress to paralysis.
I took my daughter in for her annual flu shot yesterday afternoon. The first thing they handed us was a new form to fill out. Basically, they wanted to know if she or anyone she lives with had been to west Africa in the last 21 days, whether she was exhibiting any Ebola symptoms (followed by a list of those symptoms), and whether or not they had any other reason to suspect they may have been exposed to Ebola. They asked it all again verbally when we got in the exam room.
This was at a local doctor’s office (affiliated with a major health system in the area). Not a hospital and not an urgent care.
So, hands up now, how many think that the administration is waging a biological war against its own population–on purpose?
“Actually, I was just struck with a brilliant idea. Why not isolate/quarantine each and every politician in the US at Guantanamo?”
There, fixed that for you.
Agree with the quarantine for politicians, but not just for Ebola. Look for symptoms like swollen egos, running off at the mouth. Sure signs of politicitis; keep them quarantined until the symptoms subside – which may take many years.
You can add lying as a confinable symptom.
How long before we see ObolaWad’s Pentagon Ebola Strike Team deployed? Wanna bet they come armed to the teeth, not just medical stuff.
An article by Michelle Malkin on Where was President Obama? puts ObuttWad’s call to the Prime of Canada in perspective.
lol
Dr. E-bowl-A should be trademarked by Twitter.
Just got back from weekly VA appointment; on arrival/check-in I was asked if I’d traveled to west Africa lately or had contact with someone who’d so traveled. So at least they have the forms ready, eh? Isn’t this sorta like lockin’ the bahn door after the hoss is gone?
Mrs. OFD sez they may have new-fangled “isolation wards” at Bellevue but the building and grounds are themselves a sieve and peeps just wander in and out and all around pretty much at will, even thirty years later. And as has been pointed out already, a dozen or so beds in relation to 8 million people is kind of a joke. If this is a for-real epidemic that breaks out, they need to skip the forms and the isolation wards and simply stock up on body bags, hazmat suits, shovels and line up box cars for the crematoriums.
Yet another overcast day of drizzle and fog here on the bay.
“So, hands up now, how many think that the administration is waging a biological war against its own population–on purpose?”
My hand is halfway up; they’re playing around now with test cases, rehearsals, etc. Like those mass civil disturbance exercises the cops and troops do in and around the major cities, usually without bothering to inform the local citizens.
Once they’ve refined their techniques, strategies, tactics, etc, I don’t put it past them for a nanosecond to try these things out on a larger scale; mass die-off, nationally or globally, is in their interest.
“Which epidemic kills 30,000 Americans each year?”
http://www.discussionist.com/101649928
The Houston Chronicle carried this piece of trash yesterday trying to justify the CDC spending their time and taxpayer money on guns instead of viruses.
When will the Chronicle focus its next nooz flash on motorized vehicle deaths in the U.S. each year? Or hospital/MD screwups? Peeps who fall in bathtubs, off ladders and into water deep enough to drown them? And of course those turned to stone instantly when they see (pick any) Dem/librul wimmen on the tee-vee?
““Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,” wrote the poet Yeats.””
Things is lookin’ up for anarchists:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/patrick-j-buchanan/government-is-collapsing/
Infections caught in hospitals kill more Americans than guns do, even if you include suicides by gunshot. Maybe the government should think about regulating hospitals.
Maybe the government should think about regulating hospitals.
Never happen. The AMA has invested huge sums of money in buying the finest politicians as insurance against just such an occurrence.
I was being sarcastic. Hospitals are heavily regulated already. The quality of that regulation and oversight may leave a bit to be desired, which perhaps gets to your comment.
My late grandpa was right; stay outta hospitals. They’ll kill your ass. Of course he broiled himself out in the sun and smoked hand-rolled Prince Albert ciggies all his life, after the three years in North Afrika during the Good War. And he lifted weights well into his 70s. But nevertheless, he eventually got emphysema and had to tote around an oxygen tank for his final years. I daresay, though, he mainly avoided hospitals.
Still on the wireless from the town hall here; we were supposed to have been switched over from residence to biz account yesterday and have our internet back up. Not happening. I’ll probably do two more phone calls, tomorrow and Monday morning and then we’re filing a complaint with the Public Service Board and another communication to Fairpoint upper management. Two weeks with no wired net and counting. When I call now, I get bounced from one ESL speaker to another, so the strike is still on and they must have outsourced or offshored “customer service” help accordingly. Pickets are blocking the driveway at their facility two towns south of us.
“So, hands up now, how many think that the administration is waging a biological war against its own population–on purpose?”
My hand is halfway up
Really, this assumption that no one would kill the golden goose is wrong. Nature doesn’t care if hosts survive. Witness Ebola. The virus does not even understand it is killing its own sustenance.
And those of us who do understand, find no humor in the people who joke about the business attitude that ‘the customer is the enemy’. It is no joke — to wit: OFD’s current battle with his ISP and my long, long, long, long battle with AT&T, which is about to enter another round. DIL (not the doctor) worked in customer service at a mortgage company payment center before she got the coding gig, and she maintains they absolutely, positively did not care if customers were satisfied. Their iron grip was their contract, which allowed a customer one month’s slip-up, then huge fees ensued, retroactively to the first for any slip-up thereafter. Their sole concern was that legal costs to sue for payment and to defend being sued, did not exceed a specified budget. They couldn’t care less about any other customer concern and the only instructions DIL received, was not to piss off a customer to the point they might sue. You got to make one mistake with that company, then every other one would cost you.
Every descendant generation has to learn the same things the previous one learned — generation after generation. To suspect that this administration thinks a massive reduction in population would be harmful to theirs and their buddy elite’s interests, is to misjudge the whole show we are witnessing, IMO. They do not care.
The Grigg commentary OFD linked to, shows how police are upset with the public’s attitude towards them, but are they willing to do something about that? Not on your life; they would just as soon see us dead or maimed — at the least hurt badly — if we do not kiss their feet in just the right manner.
This is an era of forcing people to do things, instead of incentivizing and responding to problems by digging to correct them and providing satisfaction. Even my other DIL (the doctor) told me they are trained (and she agrees with the training) to treat the symptoms and deal with those. Looking for a root cause of the symptoms and correcting that, is just not done these days. In any field.
There it is; Mr. Chuck has hit upon it soundly.
Our rulers not only do not care a whit about us, they are amused by our struggles and pain. They find it funny that we lose jobs or our kids come back from pointless wars maimed or in caskets. We’re seen as mindless rubes, bumpkins and drones, serfs, even; a new age of feudalism beckons. They’ll use their knights and soldiers to keep us prostrate and their scribes and what passes for clergy and other management these days to run the operations and keep them in the styles to which they’ve become only too well accustomed.
But every once in a while the serfs get riled and march with pitchforks and torches; they fear that day is coming and they are right.