Thur. April 23, 2020 – I’m goin’ in.. er, I mean out….

By on April 23rd, 2020 in ebola, Random Stuff, WuFlu

Possibly T-storms and nastiness. [79F sunny and clear at 9am, but lots of wind]

Yesterday was overcast, opening up into  a nice day.  A bit on the warm side, but still pleasant, in a humid, dripping with sweat way.

I wasn’t as productive as I could have been.  There does seem to be a bit of a malaise to my life at the moment.  I’m just not as motivated or quick as I could be.

I got some small stuff done.  Nothing worth writing home about.  The instacart issue had not been resolved before I went to bed.  If it had gone well it would be astounding.  Order groceries at 11pm have them at your door before breakfast!  If I’d been ready and the order had been fine…

I did lose hours to moving my cams to new NVR software.  So far, it’s been a lot more stable than the old software since it went belly up.  I’ve got some more settings to change and confirm and I need to actually watch some of the video to be sure it’s solid, but it looks good so far.

I had an ebay sale- the last of the PoE injectors that I’ve been selling off for the last couple of years sold.  That makes 4 or 5 that sold since I isolated, vs 0 in the six months prior.  Weird.

Dinner was a premade meal from Costco, Hawaiian chicken served over leftover rice.   One of my favorite short notice meals.

I’ll be headed over to my client’s house later today.  I’ve got to at least get eyes on the problems.  I’ll be PPE’d up and bring a can of spray.

Stay in (as much as possible), stay safe (as much as possible),

 

nick

55 Comments and discussion on "Thur. April 23, 2020 – I’m goin’ in.. er, I mean out…."

  1. PaultheManc says:

    I was interested to assess the England & Wales death rates for young people – as, from the information around I had the impression young people were at limited risk of Covid19. I chose to compare two flu years with current year all causes deaths for 4 weeks (12-15, flu season is generally over by that time). Result, deaths for under 45s:
    2012 – 1,512; 2018 – 1,389; 2020 – 1,420
    Doesn’t look like there is a significant problem for under 45s in E&W – so maybe they should be free from lockdown, which must be a big part of the economy.
    Ref: Data from UK Office of National Statistics.

  2. Alan Larson says:

    Today must be Thursday. Never could get the hang of Thursdays…..

    Instacart experiences.

    A month ago, Instacart was giving 3 to 4 day wait times, but lately they are here in two hours or less. I always receive their texts requesting substitutions, some of which I accept, and some of which I refuse. They send texts saying that they have started shopping, that are finished shopping, that they are on their way, as well as asking for feedback on their substitutions. I have never received a close dated or expired perishable item, but I deal with Publix, which pretty much precludes that possibility. The Instacart employee picks out the merchandise and checks the dates, not the store managers.(At my local Publix, Instacart has their own aisle with computers, bags, labels, etc, to process orders, and this started long before COVID 19.) Employees at Publix are there for a lifetime career and they have stock in the company, which is completely employee owned. Lots of things are considerably cheaper at Walmart, but I don’t really feel comfortable where the employees there would just as soon kick you in the a$$ as look at you.

    My parents, 90 and 84, tried ordering from Aldi’s via Instacart and were given a two week timeframe for delivery.

  3. MrAtoz says:

    Plugs has a new vid interview with the one and only Al Gore-a-cle. Plugs is incoherent. The first Presidential debate is going to be a popcorn, Moxie and pretzel (miss you OFD) not want to miss event. There is no way the DNC lets Plugs run. They’ll find something Plugs wants to get rid of him. Maybe run Amtrak or sumpin’. The DNC doesn’t want Cankles, either. Cuomo, maybe?

  4. SteveF says:

    MrAtoz’s comment prompts me to point out something we all have to be thankful for but don’t often think about: Hillary Clinton will never be President.

  5. Pecancorner says:

    Hi Nick and everyone, I’ve been reading Daynotes for about a month, over from Daily Pundit at SteveF’s recommendation of the site, and I’m glad he told us about it. Enjoying reading all’a’ya’ll’s chatter. 🙂 My husband and I live in north central Texas (Brown County).

    I went out yesterday for the first time in a month. To Aldis and Big Lots. I wore my bandana and double gloves (take one off at checkout). Only 2 other customers in Aldi wore masks, the Big Lots employees wore bandanas but no customers had any PPE. We needed coffee creamer, canned milk, and chicken. I’ve been pretty happy with how well stocked we were. Our preps have held up well, we haven’t done without much.

    Big Lots was for Round Up (actually they are carrying the Ortho version this year). Putting in my garden and I need to kill off the bermuda grass that has invaded. There are not enough hours to pull it all up. Now that the last freeze is over, I got all 25 tomato plants in the ground this week. Yesterday it was supposed to rain, so I hurried and planted out more beets, Swiss chard, and turnip seed (my first planting of all those didn’t come up because the seed was too old, from 2009. Tomato seed will keep that long, although it germinates slow – 37 days for some plants this year – but many kinds are only good for a few years). It never did rain. Today if the wind will stay quiet, I hope to get pepper plants in.

    I’m also going out today to pick up a prescription. The pharmacy mailed the last ones to us, but the 3 day delay is not optimal this time. Going to fill up the truck while I’m out: a nearby station has unleaded for $1.099. I usually buy their alcohol-free gas.

    MrAtoz’s comment prompts me to point out something we all have to be thankful for but don’t often think about: Hillary Clinton will never be President.

    Amen to that.

  6. Chad says:

    One of my employee’s sister works there and has been worried about her job as they are automating the plant in a big way. But they decided to upsize the plant even more.

    That’s a downside to minimum wages going up. We could automate all sorts of stuff where I work, but we don’t because the cost of the automation far exceeds the labor savings. That is, until you spike minimum wage and labor costs shoot up. Then suddenly all that expensive automation has a decent ROI timeline. $15/hr to put widgets in a box? Umm… no.

  7. Greg Norton says:

    Plugs has a new vid interview with the one and only Al Gore-a-cle. Plugs is incoherent. The first Presidential debate is going to be a popcorn, Moxie and pretzel (miss you OFD) not want to miss event. There is no way the DNC lets Plugs run. They’ll find something Plugs wants to get rid of him. Maybe run Amtrak or sumpin’. The DNC doesn’t want Cankles, either. Cuomo, maybe?

    Biden made a strategic mistake by insisting on the phone call with Trump a few weeks ago. Maybe he didn’t think Trump would be so gracious about the conversation, but the former VP cannot now take the position that a debate would be beneath him.

    Cuomo’s best bet is to let Biden run and lose, clearing the deck for 2024. Fracturing the convention this year or running in 2028 at 73 are unappealing, and Newsom’s money people will have more data from the Texas US Senate race this year, possibly putting the state in play without the baggage of Robert Francis.

    The cabal behind Biden are in it for the long haul. God help us all if they win.

  8. brad says:

    @Pecancorner: welcome. You’ll find several Texans here. Also some damned Yankees like SteveF, but we forgive him…

    The US elections look to be a circus. Over here in Europe, though, it has all dropped completely off the news cycles. It’s Corona, Corona and more Corona. You have to scroll way down to find anything else. On the positive side, that shows just how much click-bait (and how little actual news), the media feeds the public.

  9. MrAtoz says:

    Hi, Miss Pecanorner, and welcome. I’m currently in San Antone, rest of the family is in Vegas right now (we’re migrating back to Tejas). Wife is from Laredo, I’m from Wis-CON-sin. Our last two kids (Twins) we’re born at Wilford Hall on Lackland AFB. True Texans.

  10. Chad says:

    You’ll find several Texans here. Also some damned Yankees like SteveF, but we forgive him…

    If you walk outside in January, take a breath, and don’t feel the mucous in your nose instantly freeze then you’re living too far south.

  11. Nick Flandrey says:

    Yes, Hello to PecanCorner! Be welcome!

    You guys must be a couple weeks behind us for recommended planting schedules. The TxAgrilife schedule for Harris county has us past planting for turnips and beets. I got NO sprouts, so maybe my seeds were too old. I’ve previously had good results with old seed though. Maybe the squirrels got all the seed, or it washed away. I guess any of the three could be possible.

    Take a look at putting some potatoes in… you can use a plastic bag as an ersatz tower. Mine are growing well, at least on the leaf part. I used sprouted potatoes from my grocery bag of heirloom mixed baby potatoes. Hopefully, being heirloom, I’ll get good results. Never tried before so “we’ll see”.

    Successfully growing food is a lot harder than it looks.

    n

  12. Nick Flandrey says:

    And these are not good news, but also, shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone here….

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8247363/Does-coronavirus-cause-deadly-blood-clots-too.html

    Heart attacks are happening from different mechanisms,’ he said.

    ‘Instead of the traditional plaque rupture that we see commonly, [heart attacks] are occurring due to pure thrombosis of the blood vessel.

    ‘A large amount of the mortality we’re seeing is probably related to thrombosis issues, on top of the obvious respiratory problems.’

    In light of this, Maimonides – and most medical centers, Dr Saunders said – are now putting patients on blood thinners while they’re hospitalized and even sending them home on the drugs.

    But the problem persists, sometimes killing patients both in and outside of hospitals.

    ‘[One] issue with patients that are discharged is whether they are dying from acute pulmonary emboli,’ Dr Saunders says.

    ‘Many patients develop deep vein thromboses and pulmonary embolisms (PE’s) have been seen frequently.

    Dr Saunders and physicians across the US are no[w] keeping a close eye on patients’ levels of D-dimers.

    –several on the ground reports have emphasized the high D-dimers as a definitive symptom.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-new-data-show-90-covid-19-patients-ventilators-wont-survive-live-updates

    Finally, the Washington Post reports that new data from New York’s largest hospital system showed that survival rates for patients placed on ventilators are even lower than previously believed. The data showed that a staggering 88% of coronavirus patients who were placed on ventilators in the state’s hospitals didn’t survive.

    –this has been an issue from the very first numbers, just no one wanted to admit it or think thru the consequences. Ground truth from NYC is they’re doing everything possible to NOT use a vent, and treating it as a death sentence when they do (ie. getting the family to say goodbye first.)

    –and there are more and more widespread accounts of people that had it and then tested clear getting it again.

    –bottom line is try really hard NOT TO GET IT in the first place. You might not get immunity, and you might get SDDS (sudden drop dead syndrome- my name for what is happening in china and korea.)

    n

  13. SteveF says:

    some damned Yankees

    You can tell that Brad is a fraud. “Damnyankee” is one word.

  14. Nick Flandrey says:

    Ok, second instacart order went a bit better. Some of the stuff from costco that wasn’t in stock yesterday was this morning so I ordered again. 2 hrs later, viola, food at the door. This time I said “no substitution” and “ring bell, or knock”. She didn’t wait for a response, but did ring the bell.

    n

  15. Nick Flandrey says:

    From FEMA

    Situation: Severe weather across the Southern Plains and
    Lower Mississippi Valley produced 26 reported tornadoes, damaging
    winds, and hail. Reports of damage to 200+ homes with minimal
    power outages across impacted areas. Tornado touchdowns were
    reported in Marshall County, OK, Polk and Lamar Counties, TX, and
    Rapides Parish, LA. There are no current unmet needs or requests
    for FEMA assistance.
    Health and Medical:
    2 fatalities reported – Marshall County, OK (FEMA VI SPOTREP, 7p.m. ET 4/22
    State / Local Preparations and Response:
    • OK, AR, LA, TX, and MS EOCs activated (COVID-19)
    • TX TF-1 deployed in-state to Onalaska

  16. Alan Larson says:

    I’ll bet the Governor of Georgia has dreams of drowning in water up to his eyeballs, gasping for breath, with the media and other activists with shovels and baseball bats whacking at him saying, You’re not doing it right!!!”
    If I had any art skills, I could make a political cartoon out of that.

  17. lynn says:

    “Up to 2.7 Million in New York May Have Been Infected, Antibody Study Finds”
    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-york-virus-deaths-top-15k-cuomo-expected-to-detail-plan-to-fight-nursing-home-outbreaks/2386556/

    “New York has confirmed nearly 16,000 virus-related deaths to date; Brooklyn has the highest virus death toll (3,540) of any county in America, accounting for 7 percent of all U.S. deaths, per state and NBC News data”

    “Preliminary results from New York’s first coronavirus antibody study show nearly 14 percent tested positive, meaning they had the virus at some point and recovered, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday. That equates to 2.7 million infections statewide — more than 10 times the state’s confirmed cases.”

    “New York City had a higher rate of antibodies (21.2 percent) than anywhere else in the state and accounted for 43 percent of the total tested. Long Island had a 16.7 percent positivity rate, while Westchester and Rockland counties saw 11.7 percent of their samples come up with the antibody. The rest of the state, which accounted for about a third of those studied, had a 3.6 percent positivity rate. There were early variations by race/ethnicity and age as well.”

    And another study says that 15 to 20% of the population has the SARS-COV-2 antibodies.

    Hat tip to:
    http://drudgereport.com/

  18. Greg Norton says:

    I’ll bet the Governor of Georgia has dreams of drowning in water up to his eyeballs, gasping for breath, with the media and other activists with shovels and baseball bats whacking at him saying, You’re not doing it right!!!”
    If I had any art skills, I could make a political cartoon out of that.

    The Governors of Florida and Georgia were narrowly elected in 2018, defeating African American candidates, and the media in both states will never forget it, particularly the big newspapers in Atlanta, Tampa, and Miami.

    Georgia effectively has a Protest Governor in the defeated candidate, Stacey Abrams.

    Florida did too with Andrew Gillum until March when Gillum’s extracirricular activities in Miami Beach became front page news. Huey Long used to say, “Don’t get caught with a dead girl or a live boy.” Gillum was caught with a half-dead meth addict friend and a male prostitute.

    Or, as I call it, much to my wife’s dismay, “Party At Kitty And Studs: The Next Generation”.

  19. lynn says:

    My husband and I decided we don’t want children.
    We will be telling them tonight at dinner

    I used to spin that toilet paper like I was on Wheel of Fortune. Now I turn it like I’m cracking a safe.

    This morning I saw a neighbor talking to her dog. It was obvious she thought her dog understood her. I came into my house, told my cat. We laughed a lot.

    Homeschooling is going well… two students suspended for fighting and one teacher fired for drinking on the job.

    I don’t think anyone expected that when we changed the clocks, we’d go from Standard Time to the Twilight Zone.

    My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

    Day 5 of Homeschooling: One of these little monsters called in a bomb threat.

    Day 6 of Homeschooling: My child just said “I hope I don’t have the same teacher next year”… I’m offended.

    It’s like being 16 again. Gas is cheap and I’m grounded

    My favorite (they are all very good) is:

    “Homeschooling is going well… two students suspended for fighting and one teacher fired for drinking on the job.”

  20. lynn says:

    I wasn’t as productive as I could have been. There does seem to be a bit of a malaise to my life at the moment. I’m just not as motivated or quick as I could be.

    Depression and age. It will be worse in five years. I put up my first code changes last night in over a week. The road to 60 sucks. The wife (she is 62) says that the road after 60 sucks big time.

  21. Ray Thompson says:

    Carpet is getting installed today. All the tack strips had to be removed because they were not close enough to the wall. Odd because the carpet we had before is the same thickness as the new carpet. We were explicitly told by the sales people to NOT remove the tack strips. Then the crew decides to remove the tack strips and replace them. One hand does not know what the other is doing I guess.

    When the Home Depot installed did the wife’s workroom carpet he left all the tack strips in place. Said there was no need to replace any of the tack strips. Must depend on the installer.

    Carpet comes in rolls that are numbered according the diagram of the space being carpeted. The pieces have been pre-cut somewhere to fit the space. I guess the cutting, probably designed by a computer, is designed to minimize excess carpeting.

    We are using a commercial carpet company, as in that is their only business, for this carpet installation. Maybe that is making the difference as that is all they do to make money. They have been in business, same location, for 40 years, so I guess they are doing carpet correctly.

    All but two bedrooms today, they will be done tomorrow. Dog is really upset.

  22. lynn says:

    I had an ebay sale- the last of the PoE injectors that I’ve been selling off for the last couple of years sold. That makes 4 or 5 that sold since I isolated, vs 0 in the six months prior. Weird.

    My TP-Link that RickH recommended is working very well. When, I remember the passwords. The son was over a week ago and I could not find the yellow sticky note with the passwords to save my life. Until he was ready to go home.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N1L5HX1/?tag=ttgnet-20

    I did max out the 100 Mbps ethernet over power line system with two Rokus. I hardwired one of the Rokus to the TP-Link ethernet hub and that problem went away.

    Of our three Rokus, one has to be rebooted daily. The other two have to be rebooted monthly. Computers !

  23. lynn says:

    “NEW YORK (AP) — Unemployment in the U.S. is swelling to levels last seen during the Great Depression of the 1930s, with 1 in 6 American workers thrown out of a job by the coronavirus.”
    https://apnews.com/e928d091f81f75b9bc8830c7370f41fb

    “More than 4.4 million laid-off workers applied for unemployment benefits last week, the government said Thursday. In all, roughly 26 million people — the population of the 10 biggest U.S. cities combined — have now filed for jobless aid in five weeks, an epic collapse that has raised the stakes in the debate over how and when to lift the state-ordered stay-at-home restrictions that have closed factories and other businesses from coast to coast.”

    I don’t want to knock the 48,868 people who have died in the USA to date and the probable 20,000 more who will pass with SARS-COV-2 by the end of the year, but, 26 million people losing their jobs in the last five weeks is a real tragedy. And I suspect another 10 to 20 million are going to lose their jobs in the next month.

    My son says that we will end up calling this the Greater Depression. Pray that does not happen.

    Hat tip to:
    http://drudgereport.com/

  24. RickH says:

    @lynn Most wireless routers have a switch/button that you can use to reset the whole thing to factory defaults. Of course, you have to re-configure everything.

    On devices I don’t use often, I use sticky notes but with an additional piece of tape, because the ‘sticky’ will wear out after a while. I place them underneath the device.

    Yeah, I know that sticky notes with passwords are not a good thing. But they are inside my house. If someone gets to the stickers, I’ve got bigger problems.

    And, those stickers are good in case of HBB (“Hit By Bus”).

  25. MrAtoz says:

    Yeah, I know that sticky notes with passwords are not a good thing. But they are inside my house. If someone gets to the stickers, I’ve got bigger problems.

    We use the family version of 1Password for password storage. Each person gets their own private vault. The we have a family vault with shared passwords like Netflix, Amazon Prime, and other boxes. The vaults are encrypted on your device and stored encrypted in the cloud. Versions for most OS’s.

  26. SteveF says:

    If I had any art skills

    I have art skills! They’re the skills of a five-year-old with a broken wrist, but I have them!

    My husband and I decided we don’t want children.
    We will be telling them tonight at dinner

    I’ve been telling my daughter that I’m looking to get her married off. All I need is contact info for someone with, say, a cow and a dozen chickens he’s willing to give me. She doesn’t find this amusing. I count this as a parental failure, to have raised a child with no sense of humor.

    26 million people losing their jobs in the last five weeks is a real tragedy.

    This is a big hit to the economy — the “make real things that people can hold” economy, not the funny-money economy. How many people are going to die because next year we won’t be rich enough to afford the level of healthcare we in the US have enjoyed until the beginning of this year? How many medicines and devices won’t be developed (and tested; more expensive) because the money isn’t there or because the pharma companies are worried about the increasingly strident calls to nationalize them? How many people have committed suicide, or will, because of isolation or depression or fear or uncertainty? All this for a tiny, tiny blip in total deaths in the US.

  27. Ray Thompson says:

    I use sticky notes but with an additional piece of tape

    I print labels on my Brother p-touch label printer and stick those on the boxes. I have never had one come off, ever. And on a side note, it is cheaper to buy the tapes, with a printer, at Costco than buying the tapes at Staples. I throw away the printer.

    At my church I have labeled every piece of equipment. Almost everything in the studio has an IP address. Even the projectors are on the network with their own IP address. I also labeled each cable, on each end, with the destination of the other end. Printed diagrams are posted in the studio. In case I get hit by a bus.

  28. Ray Thompson says:

    We use the family version of 1Password for password storage

    I use LastPass with all my information. I include driver’s license information, vehicle information, passport information. Naturally all my site passwords are stored there. Anything I can think of that may be critical in the case of my eventual demise is stored in that file. My son has emergency access. He logs in, asks for permission, an email is sent to me, if I don’t respond in 4 hours he is granted full access. Having all that information will make his job much easier in settling my affairs after I become a grey powder.

  29. lynn says:

    @lynn Most wireless routers have a switch/button that you can use to reset the whole thing to factory defaults. Of course, you have to re-configure everything.

    On devices I don’t use often, I use sticky notes but with an additional piece of tape, because the ‘sticky’ will wear out after a while. I place them underneath the device.

    Yeah, I was very close to hitting the panic button. Then I found the yellow sticky under my keyboard. I am too lazy to spend the ten minutes to reconfigure the TP-Link.

    Yes, I need to put a yellow sticky underneath the Tp-Link. Sigh. The wife already has two items for me to fix this weekend. And one of them involves a ladder. Me and ladders are not doing well this year.

  30. lynn says:

    “‘What science?’ Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says nation never should have been locked down”
    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/What-science-Lt-Gov-Dan-Patrick-says-15215779.php?cmpid=gsa-chron-result

    “Patrick said while every life is valuable, Texas had lost only about 500 people, but the economy has been destroyed because of the stay-at-home orders. Nearly every governor in the nation issued such an order, including Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican who signed a stay-at-home order three weeks ago to stem the spread of COVID-19.”

    “Patrick, 70, took issue with the science that has been cited to justify the lockdowns. He said at the end of January, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, was saying the virus wasn’t a big issue. Then weeks later, 2 million Americans were predicted to die, Patrick said. Then it was 100,000 to 200,000 deaths. Now it might be under 60,000.”

    I hate to say this but I agree with Lt. Dan. I’ve known him for about 20 years and agree with about half of the crazy stuff he says.

    A guy called in to Rush this morning and stated that we have not been building our herd immunity because of the general quarantines and social distancing.
    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/04/23/are-we-trying-to-keep-people-from-dying-or-just-getting-sick/

    “CALLER: The question is, what is the goal of this policy? Is the policy to minimize the number of deaths, or is it to prevent everybody from not getting sick? If it’s the former, you would isolate the vulnerable populations, which are the elderly, particularly in nursing homes and those that have comorbidities, such as diabetes or obesity.”

    “RUSH: Right.”

  31. lynn says:

    “Oklahoma regulators clear way for voluntary shut-ins, will consider mandatory cuts”
    https://www.ogj.com/general-interest/government/article/14174616/oklahoma-regulators-clear-way-for-voluntary-shutins-will-consider-mandatory-cuts

    “The Oklahoma Corporation Commission (OCC) approved an emergency order Apr. 22 to allow oil well operators to shut in money-losing wells.”

    Hopefully Texas will do this also.

  32. lynn says:

    _Lock In: A Novel of the Near Future_ by John Scalzi
    https://www.amazon.com/Lock-Novel-Future-John-Scalzi/dp/0765375869/?tag=ttgnet-20

    Book number two of a three book pandemic mystery series. I read the well printed and bound hardback that my son gave me a few years ago. I have not read the prequel nor the sequel but will probably purchase those and read them in the future. In fact, I did not even know the prequel (and sequel) had been published before I read this book. I sure am reading a lot of pandemic books lately, I wonder why ?

    John Scalzi is an easy read. He writes a lot of dialogue and his books flow well. This is my tenth ??? book of his to read and I have enjoyed them all.

    The book is set a quarter century after the Haden’s Syndrome pandemic. Most people experienced a flu-like symptons and moved on. A very unlucky one percent emerge “Locked In”, a fully awake and aware state but unable to move and without any response to external stimuli. There is no cure. Or, is there a cure ?

    My rating: 4 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 3.7 out of 5 stars (760 reviews)

  33. ~jim says:

    Day 30: How Bad is It? 🙂

    Heard on the radio this morning:

    The Candyman Can… because he mixes it with hydroxychloroquine

    Raindrops Keep Falling on my Mask

    You’ve Lost That Gloving Feeling

    Everybody Was Kung Flu Fighting

    We’ve Only Just Begun… To Die

  34. lynn says:

    This is a big hit to the economy — the “make real things that people can hold” economy, not the funny-money economy. How many people are going to die because next year we won’t be rich enough to afford the level of healthcare we in the US have enjoyed until the beginning of this year?

    How many people do not have health insurance anymore and are scared to visit their doctor or an ER for a sudden chest pain ?

  35. SteveF says:

    A fair few, according to something I read this afternoon. I don’t know if that analysis was for only NYC, for all of the US, or for the world (though I think it was for all of US) but a lot of people are hesitating to call an ambulance if, for example, they feel chest pain. This results in “excess deaths” because the quicker the response when a heart attack begins the more likely he is to survive.

  36. MrAtoz says:

    Everybody Was Kung Flu Fighting

    RAAAYCISSSSS!!!! I’m calling the Director of the WHO.

  37. Ray Thompson says:

    This results in “excess deaths” because the quicker the response when a heart attack begins the more likely he is to survive.

    And thus counted as Covid-19 death.

  38. lynn says:

    A fair few, according to something I read this afternoon. I don’t know if that analysis was for only NYC, for all of the US, or for the world (though I think it was for all of US) but a lot of people are hesitating to call an ambulance if, for example, they feel chest pain. This results in “excess deaths” because the quicker the response when a heart attack begins the more likely he is to survive.

    For both of my heart incidents, I had the wife take me to the ER in her clown car XXXXX XXX Honda Civic. Each time I wanted to get out and walk there since I basically have to fold myself into that car. And when you are having extreme trouble breathing, the last thing you want is chest compression. I specifically got her the Toyota Highlander “for the next time”.

    The last time I had to ride in an ambulance, yes there have been multiple times, they duct taped me to the back board. All because I passed out while peeing and hit my head on the wall (or toilet or both). I crawled out of the toilet closet and promptly passed out again. And again. And again. I won’t be doing that again willingly, I will crawl to the ER.

  39. Pecancorner says:

    Thanks for the welcome, everyone! Went to Goldthwaite this am: highway traffic has picked up, lots of “job related” loads on the road again, and a couple of manufactured homes, along with more cars. Looked like most little businesses are open. The pharmacy was busy as always, but they are running everyone through a drive-thru (I didn’t even know they had such). Grocery store still low on papergoods, Gold Medal flour, and pork. But they had plenty of milk, eggs, frozen pizza, and everything else.

    Re planting dates: The area we are in has lots of little microclimates. Most years (9 out of the past 14), the last frost in our little town is the week before or after Easter. So I follow the adage “Don’t plant before Good Friday”. And this year we had thunder in February, so I had to wait out “Thunder in February, Frost in April”. Last frost was on the 15th.

    I first planted seeds around March 12th, the ones that didn’t come up. So I ordered more from Wilhite and they are like all seed companies this year: swamped with orders, so it took them 3 weeks to ship. It is late for turnips and greens but we have been having cool wet springs in recent years so maybe they will make.

    Beets .. it is weird that TxA&M recommends planting them at onion planting time in February… turnips, yeah, but beets? because I can’t get them to grow except in spring/summer, or maybe fall because it is warm enough when they are planted.

    I think some companies are better at selling new seed every year than others. That may be why we sometimes have good results with old seed and not at others.

    Funny you mention potatoes. Bill shared a video about potatoes in bags a while back. I planted a very few seed potatoes this year for the first time, in the ground. Interested to see how they do. I didn’t think to buy the specialty ones and sprout them… next year!

  40. Pecancorner says:

    Good grief, Lynn. I think I would avoid ambulance after that too.

  41. ~jim says:

    What if they threw a pandemic and nobody came?

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/uss-theodore-roosevelt-entire-crew-tested-coronavirus.amp

    Now nearly a month after pulling into Guam, 840 of the crew have tested positive. (~20% ed.) Eighty-eight sailors have recovered and four remain hospitalized, but none are in the intensive care unit (ICU), according to naval officials.

    And not a single death.

    You can “Yes, but…” that until the cows come home but it sure doesn’t sound like the sky is falling to me.

  42. lynn says:

    What if they threw a pandemic and nobody came?

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/uss-theodore-roosevelt-entire-crew-tested-coronavirus.amp

    Now nearly a month after pulling into Guam, 840 of the crew have tested positive. (~20% ed.) Eighty-eight sailors have recovered and four remain hospitalized, but none are in the intensive care unit (ICU), according to naval officials.

    And not a single death.

    You can “Yes, but…” that until the cows come home but it sure doesn’t sound like the sky is falling to me.

    The sky has fallen for almost 50,000 people in the USA. But many of them already had issues is my understanding.

    I have heard stories of young children dying. I have heard stories of 20 somethings, 30 somethings, etc, etc, etc dying. I have also heard that the SARS-COV-2 mostly kills fat people over 65.

    Dr. Oz was on Sean Hannity’s radio show today. BTW, I did not know that he is a heart surgeon. He was saying that high blood pressure, even corrected by drugs like I am, is a major contributor to the fatality rate.

    But for the rest of us, I am not significantly worried. If it takes me out, it takes me out. I’ve got a congenital heart condition (missing right coronary artery). I’ve got an auto immune disease which comes and goes due to stress. I’m 59 and fat. All apparently target conditions for this virus.

    I’ve also got life insurance. I’ve got assets that my wife and daughter can use to live off of. I’ve been preparing since I had my first heart attack ten years ago. I was told then by a cardiologist then that I was the oldest person he had ever seen with that problem. Most die in their teens. Like I said, if it takes me out then it takes me out. I will not live in the cave, hiding until it goes away.

    Now if it was killing 20 people out of every 100 infected, I would be more careful. And I would probably hide out in the cave. More than now.

  43. Nick Flandrey says:

    Home from my service call.

    3 fried wall warts, one with fried equipment attached. One failed TCL tv (should be covered under Costco’s extended warranty or the additional Square Trade one). One failed Sony 4K bluray player. One flaky controller that should be replaced, and one possibly flaky audio router. I was there in May of last year and all was good. A lot of it got a big local lightning hit. The rack is on UPSs with surge protectors, the projector has its own surge protector, and there are ‘whole house’ surge protectors on the breaker panels. Still, it’s out in the country and wall warts are built pretty cheaply and were only on the ‘whole house’ circuits. It’s a bit surprising they lasted this long and thru so many power events. The tv probably just failed due to being cheap.

    I’ll be ordering parts and then going back out at some point.

    Road traffic was a bit light for afternoon, but there were plenty of cars and trucks. Odd seeing the traffic alert signs saying “Personal travel from Louisiana must quarantine 14 days.”

    It was another beautiful day today.

    n

  44. William Quick says:

    You can take this as my chirpy prediction for the next year or two: I just ordered from my local restaurant supply store another year of basic long term food prep – rice, beans, etc, etc., the usual. (I don’t buy dried beans. I buy a case – or several – of #10 cans. In this case, Louisiana-style chili beans. I live alone, except for my dog, who loves me, so chili beans it is.

  45. lynn says:

    And Aesop is talking about the New York State survey mentioned earlier:
    http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2020/04/let-white-whale-quest-end-please.html

    He thinks that a lot more people are going to die if people leave their caves.

    I did miss that 3.6% of the people tested outside the metropolitan area of New York City had the antibodies. That is somewhat sobering if that is representative of the rest of the country.

  46. Nick Flandrey says:

    Dogs sniff each other’s butts, so I think you’re covered there…..

    on the other hand, when my dog farts in his sleep, it wakes him up and chases him out of the room.

    n

  47. lynn says:

    You can take this as my chirpy prediction for the next year or two: I just ordered from my local restaurant supply store another year of basic long term food prep – rice, beans, etc, etc., the usual. (I don’t buy dried beans. I buy a case – or several – of #10 cans. In this case, Louisiana-style chili beans. I live alone, except for my dog, who loves me, so chili beans it is.

    I hope that you ration those #10 can of chili beans out over some time period. Like a month.

    The wife would kill me if I ate something like that on a consistent basis. There is also another, add an adequate amount of Louisiana Hot Sauce to whatever is a little bit bland. If my wife recommends 5 drops, I usually quadruple that.
    http://www.louisiana-brand.com/

    BTW, is a case six #10 cans ? When I ordered a bunch of Augason #10 cans of LTS from Walmarts several years ago, they used boxes that held six #10 cans. I figure that they were probably drop shipping directly from Augason.

    Now I want some chili beans for supper.

  48. Nick Flandrey says:

    Hmm, what do we see at a glance, if these guys are typical of the pedophile problem?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8250169/Police-arrest-30-pedophiles-just-one-Virginia-county-Covid-crackdown.html

    n

  49. Nick Flandrey says:

    More food shortage news…

    Tyson shutters Washington beef plant over COVID-19 – one day after closing its largest pork facility in the US – as union says more than 5,000 meat processing workers have been exposed to the virus

    Tyson Fresh Meats on Thursday announced that it was temporarily halting production at a beef plant in Pasco, Washington
    The company said it is working with health officials to test over 1,400 workers at the plant, which produces enough beef daily to feed four million people
    On Wednesday Tyson reluctantly shuttered two of its pork plants, including its largest US facility in Waterloo, Iowa
    Those three plants are among at least 10 across the country which have been forced to close their doors due to COVID-19 outbreaks among their workers

    –um yes, they were exposed to covid, because they continued to go to work and congregate in groups. Everywhere we see that, we see the same result.

    n

  50. ~jim says:

    The sky has fallen for almost 50,000 people in the USA. But many of them already had issues is my understanding.

    I’ve never said it wasn’t bad, but jeez, we’ve all got to die of something and yes, some precautions make sense. But IMNSHO, the over-reaction has been irrational, unwarranted, unprecedented and completely ludicrous. “Doing something” has cost far more man lifetimes than the disease ever will.

    When this is all said and done and the fingers start pointing I’m waiting for the first guy to say, “But I was only following orders!”

  51. William Quick says:

    BTW, is a case six #10 cans ?

    Yep. When I open the big can I portion it out into freezer bags and freeze them. No waste.

    I happen to like beans and rice, and home made bread, and pizza (I make my own crusts). I can eat the same things over and over for months on end. I do that even when I’m not eating out the preps. On my normal low carb diet, I pretty much live on pork chops, bacon, heavy cream, coffee, and cheese.
    I went into my hunker-bunker mode on March 7, and started eating prep-style. I’ve gained 20 pounds. At some point I’m going to have to do something about that.

  52. Nick Flandrey says:

    I put the scale up against the wall and haven’t stepped on it yet. Don’t intend to either. NOT coming out of this ready for the pool…

    n

  53. Greg Norton says:

    Dr. Oz was on Sean Hannity’s radio show today. BTW, I did not know that he is a heart surgeon. He was saying that high blood pressure, even corrected by drugs like I am, is a major contributor to the fatality rate.

    I wonder where Dr. Dean Edell is these days.

  54. ech says:

    Dr. Oz was on Sean Hannity’s radio show today

    Oz is an idiot that endorses all kinds of woo-woo quackery like Chi fields.

  55. ech says:

    Lt. Gov. Dan was a much better radio host than pandemic expert. Fauci was taken in, like many, by lies from the ChiComs and the WHO. Now that things are under some control and the load is manageable, it’s time to loosen up a bit.

    We have had time to learn more. One key fact: spread indoors is much, much easier than thought. The Chinese restaurant and the South Korea call center studies show that it spreads very, very well to people that are together indoors. Remember also that the first superspreader in S. Korea spread it at a megachurch. (So, don’t count on going back to services any time soon. Especially if you are vulnerable.)

    The question is, what is the goal of this policy? Is the policy to minimize the number of deaths, or is it to prevent everybody from not getting sick? If it’s the former, you would isolate the vulnerable populations, which are the elderly, particularly in nursing homes and those that have comorbidities, such as diabetes or obesity.”

    The goal was minimizing the load on the hospital system. NYC did a stay at home late and came close to exhausting their resources. A few days later for the shut down and the death toll would have been much higher.

    How do you just isolate the vulnerable? There are vulnerable people that live with those at lower risk. Despite the lockdown, it’s broken out at some nursing homes here in the Houston area. Also, there are no invulnerable populations. Even healthy young people have died.

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