86F and 70%RH and we are well on our way to another scorcher here in Houston. Willis Carrier should be a national hero, or at least a Southern one. No one would live in the pestilent swamps of Houston, Louisiana, the Gulf Coast, or Florida without his invention. Never mind the huge swaths of the western and southern deserts, half the country would be mostly uninhabitable if not for him.
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I thought there were problems with the timeline at the Santa Fe shooting, and now more info is coming out.
According to the latest reports, he ‘crumpled to the ground and surrendered’ as soon as confronted by law enforcement. That was 30 minutes after he began shooting. THIRTY minutes.
WTF was law enforcement doing for 30 minutes?
There are reports that kids tried to keep him from entering the classroom, and got shot for their trouble. And that lots of kids ran away. Both good responses, even if they didn’t work this time.
At least 20 shots. From a revolver (6 shot, and awkward to reload) and a shotgun, (3-6 shot, and again, not an easy reload) so why did he have time to reload? The gun grabbers are saying that the issue with normal capacity mags is that the victims never get a chance to stop the shooter while he’s reloading. What happened here, in real life?
And again THIRTY MINUTES. ????!!!!
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Long gone are hero’s willing to risk their lives, especially cops. They would rather assess, talk, plan, wait for an armored vehicle, or someone else to respond.
Today far too many in Texas wear the manure inside their “boots” instead of on the outside like a Genuine Texan does. Again the vanishing of a breed. Lone Star Beer forever (yuck, I’ll take a PBR).
I too was absolutely floored at the revelations of the timeline. Now I see that he will not face the death penalty and will probably be paroled at some time. After this is just his first offense.
Edit/Add: I thought all classrooms were to have a bucket of rocks by now. Oh wait, “they” got confused with the literacy state of the students.
People clearly don’t want effective policies.
They want to use the blood of our children to argue political stances.
NO ONE has proposed cans of bear spray in every fire extinguisher cabinet.
NO ONE has proposed bleeding control trauma packs in every fire extinguisher cabinet. The only LEO who was hurt almost bled out because there was no traumatic bleeding control available [edit-this is an assumption on my part given that you don’t almost bleed out if there IS effective bleeding control available].
Response and resilience are part of the multi part national response framework. This stuff fits into an established legal and policy framework that is already in place for disaster and emergency response, so it shouldn’t even be controversial.
Time to start hammering school boards and local elected reps.
If you can’t prevent it, you better be able to respond and mitigate the damage.
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Me too, yesterday aft.:
https://www.facebook.com/MothersTavern/
http://www.motherstavernsunsetbeach.com/
I would argue they really don’t to issue trauma response items as that would admit there is a problem in society. The media and liberals would rather blame the gun rather than the individual. This is the result of liberal upbringing, everyone gets a trophy, no one has to learn the hard lessons of life, everyone is special, gender is irrelevant, etc. The mess will only get worse.
Blocking guns will not solve the issue, just ask U-Haul and some other truck manufacturers. If someone wants to kill someone they will find a way. No amount of regulation and laws will stop the behavior.
The military learned during Korea and reinforced during Nam, the value of the golden hour, having trauma kits, stopping bleeding, immobilizing limbs, etc. and his been very effective.
The media needs to stop mentioning the perpetrator’s name, don’t display their picture, call then what they are, low life scum. Get rid of the five minutes of fame and turn the individual into an item of total ridicule, despicable creature, someone to be removed from society.
I think @CowboySlim has a web crawler that watches for any mention of PBR and send him a notification.
WRT trauma kits:
Most school nurses, while they may be RNs or LPNs, usually come from a background that does not include any real trauma situation training, a band-aid has to do and don’t they dare offer an aspirin.
There was a day when I would say that there would be a number of Boy Scouts in any school who would be able to function in a multiple casualty situation. (get ready to sign, here goes @DadC again) Back when I was a Boy Scout we regularly had multiple casualty first aid competitions. We learned how to triage and practice with “accidents kits” that presented compound fractures and chest wounds with pumps that pumped fake blood. The squeamish soon washed out. Unfortunately, or fortunately for a “victim” in real life, some of us were prepared to act. I have done CPR on two heart attack victims and dealt with compound fractures three times. This was back in the day when there was no such thing as EMS, it was the funeral parlor that sent an “ambulance” with a pulmotor/resuscitator and a box of linen bandages.
Getting some trauma response into schools fits with a number of .gov initiatives.
The National Framework mentioned above.
The STOPtheBLEED.org effort – that specifically recognizes that the true first responders are the bystanders and victims, and specifically empowers them to respond. ANY care is better than no care in a mass casualty event, and even trained or knowledgeable people won’t have the supplies on them, so have some handy.
CERT training is pushing out and available to everyone.
There is a concerted effort to push effective response out into the populace after years of the opposite, in the name of recovery and resilience.
Let’s get pressure on them to do this, and completely avoid getting sidetracked into the ‘gun’ debate.
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(I would very much like to get rid of foot in mouth Joe Biden’s Gun Free Zones, which are only a couple decades old, and were meant to protect TEACHERS. There are far more students that need protecting than teachers.)
NO ONE has proposed cans of bear spray in every fire extinguisher cabinet.
Federal law prohibits using bear spray on people.
Wasp killer is also verboten for personal defense, but it would be easier to make the case for pre-staged cans of insecticide, especially in places like Texas and Florida where big nests seem to appear overnight.
Changing gears, the motor on my big shop fan was completely seized. So I ordered the replacement scratch and dent motor from amazon. Ships free with prime. $37 total. Funny thing, there were two listed, seems that one sold while I was waiting, and mine increased in price by 40c.
My zukes have something infecting the stem, right at the dirt. It splits open and the insides are orange mush. 2 plants affected so far. I sprayed everything today with Captn Jack’s bug killer. And of course it started raining. We’re forecast for the edge of a storm today, and it looks like we are gonna get it. It’s bursting with ice cold squalls, and just now thunder in the distance. I should have sprayed yesterday when I thought of it.
Annnddd, it stopped. Guess I’m back to working outside.
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“Federal law prohibits using bear spray on people.”
Federal law prohibits murder….
So get a big can of something else than actual bear spray. Insect sprays are also prohibited by federal law to be used for any but their intended purpose, iirc.
Bear spray or pepper spray or even dye with an irritant will be a lot less damaging when the inevitable student misuse occurs.
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So now he had enough time to be messing with his phone too….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5750289/Texas-school-gunman-sang-One-Bites-Dust-time-shot-victim.html
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Bear spray or pepper spray or even dye with an irritant will be a lot less damaging when the inevitable student misuse occurs.
On “Star Trek”, Kirk sometimes flooded selected areas of the ship with a knockout gas. I wonder if something similar could be done in school hallways using pepper spray or dye.
Changing gears, the motor on my big shop fan was completely seized. So I ordered the replacement scratch and dent motor from amazon. Ships free with prime. $37 total. Funny thing, there were two listed, seems that one sold while I was waiting, and mine increased in price by 40c.
Someone else had a shop fan made on the same shift in the same factory.
Last year, my boss at the university had an elaborate conspiracy theory involving his predecessor to try and explain why our department’s RAID servers all failed simultaneously at the beginning of the semester. At one meeting of the minds doing a postmortem, I asked, “Were all the drives purchased from a single vendor on the same PO?”
[ Insert sound of chirping crickets. ]
No more conspiracy theories after that. I guess we know who did the buying for the RAID array, but it is kinda scary what kinds of tales bureaucrats will spin to CYA.
The situation was one of the reasons I went to CGI instead of taking a permanent job with the department.
I guess companies could leave Seattle if the city gets a pass from the state on the head tax, but nothing would stop other WA State cities and counties faced with similar homeless problems from doing the same thing. In Clark County, where we used to live, an economically depressed area far worse off than Seattle, Camas (UL and Fisher Investments) and Ridgefield (UHaul HQ) immediately spring to mind as candidates to pass their own head tax if the county doesn’t beat them to it.
Things could get real ugly for companies in the I-5 corridor if the state dawdles on challenging the head tax.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/14/news/economy/seattle-business-head-tax-amazon/index.html
WRT Seattle’s “head tax”:
We all know that the money will just go into the General Fund and get lost.
There will be a token amount spent on stuff like signs placed on benches that say “This bench for the homeless was purchased by the rich companies of Seattle”.
FWIW the group that wants to split WA State into East (right) and West (left) States is gearing up, again, to try and get a measure put on the ballot. They say that 76% of Eastern Washingtonians (not to be confused with an 1840 Temperance Movement) want the split.
From the Seattle PI: Liberty – The 51st State
From the Spokesman Review: The State of Liberty
I would say only valid in national parks. After all, didn’t the US Supreme Court just rule the feds cannot overrule states on prohibiting sports betting? Why would spraying bear stuff be any different.
WRT to federal murder laws: Feds do not prohibit killing someone of same sex or color. Now, if you kill someone of other sex or color, it is violating their civil rights, but not murder. Remember LA cops and Rodney King?
FWIW the group that wants to split WA State into East (right) and West (left) States is gearing up, again, to try and get a measure put on the ballot. They say that 76% of Eastern Washingtonians (not to be confused with an 1840 Temperance Movement) want the split.
I wasn’t aware of Liberty, but, after living out there, I know something about the Jefferson movement in CA/OR and fringe Mormon groups who want the historic Deseret sections of CA, OR, and NV to either become a separate state or “put the band back together” with Utah.
After the Republicans took back Congress in 2010, another fringe movement started to join Western WA and the Willamette Valley to British Columbia, but anyone who has watched the milk palettes at Bellingham Costco knows why that wouldn’t work the way the Progs imagine. If anything, chances are higher that BC would become the 51st state.
Funny thing is the state boundaries have been all over the place. History channel had a very interesting series called “The States” iirc, and one of the most surprising things what how fluid the boundaries were.
WRT Rodney King, the officers were found not guilty because they followed department procedure. So if the procedure says they can beat you a certain way, then they can. Who determines the procedures? Why the cops do. That’s why we have this shift from ‘protect and serve’ to ‘everyone goes home at the end of the shift’ or ‘officer safety.’ When we the people let them get away with seizing vehicles if they found a single pot seed and selling them for the proceeds, and accepted ‘civil asset forfeiture’ without hanging them as thieves, even the straight arrow honest cops had reasons to see us ‘civilians’ as sheep to be sheared.
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NB- the cops are ‘civilians’ too. With the increase of ex-military in the police forces they started to distinguish themselves from ordinary ‘civilians.’ This is not a good thing for the republic.
Anyone here still think police won’t carry out confiscation orders?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5750827/Houston-police-chief-slams-politicians-inaction-gun-control-saying-hes-hit-rick-bottom.html
“‘We need to start using the ballot box and ballot initiatives to take the matters out of the hands of people that are doing nothing that are elected into the hands of the people to see that the will of the people in this country is actually carried out.'”
— yeah, oathbreaker, F you. Get an amendment passed, then come back to me. Until then you swore an oath to UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION. ALL OF IT. Not just the parts you like.
No, no dialog or chance of compromise with this oathbreaking slimeball–
“‘I know some of you have strong feelings about gun rights but I want you to know I’ve hit rock bottom and I am not interested in your views as it pertains to this issue,’ ”
He should be immediately kicked out of office for ignoring the law and his oath. And he should be kicked in the nuts for a few hours for his ARROGANCE that HIS opinion is more important than the law or the opinions of the people he ‘serves.’
“Acevedo spent 10 years as Austin’s chief of police before he was given the position in Houston in 2016.”
And he’s a filthy hypocrite too- “He went on to condemn the inaction of elected officials who he said ‘ran to the cameras today, acted in a solemn manner, called for prayers, and will once again do absolutely nothing.'” —-as he ran to get in front of the cameras and make his statement.
This guy will be first in line to have his officers kick down your door. He’s NOT INTERESTED in what YOU think. Or the law of the land, only his ‘feelz.’
Makes me literally sick to my stomach.
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and the article repeats the lie of 22 school shootings this year.
Anyone here still think police won’t carry out confiscation orders?
Houston popped up on Samantha Brown’s PBS show within the last few weeks. She spent roughly 1/3 of the running time in Phoenicia but they carefully edited out most of the burqas I imagine are running around that place.
Get with the times, man. They have a right to go home at the end of their shift. If that means they put a dozen rounds into some ordinary guy because he didn’t knuckle under fast enough and they ‘feared for their lives’, then that’s just one of the costs of them going home at the end of their shift. If that means they wait outside while a lone shooter kills a dozen unarmed teens, that’s just the price we ‘civilians’ have to pay for a society in which the cops can go home at the end of the shift.
Portland!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/string-of-scandals-rock-portland-public-schools/
32 years of sexual abuse of students, lead in the drinking water, lots of mischief.
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32 years of sexual abuse of students, lead in the drinking water, lots of mischief.
I’ve written here before that our local elementary school in Vantucky -er- Vancouver, WA was the only decent public K-5 school in the metro area. During our last year there (2013-14), I saw a *lot* of Oregon plates pulling into the dropoff in the mornings.
Even Hollywood knows the deal about the schools in Portland. The “Twilight” series filmed the school scenes in Kalama, WA, an hour north, because the retro/deco school buildings in Portland were too dilapidated *for a vampire flick*.
Nothing will change in Portland as long as the Clark County, WA escape valve exists for parents. It is the same with Austin and Round Rock.
More vibrancy doing the jobs Americans won’t do:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5751455/Two-men-arrested-police-discover-90M-worth-crystal-meth-fuel-tank.html
“An immigration detainer has been issued for Pineda. ICE is looking into immigration status of Arreola. ”
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“‘We need to start using the ballot box and ballot initiatives to take the matters out of the hands of people that are doing nothing that are elected into the hands of the people to see that the will of the people in this country is actually carried out.’”
Should he ever run for elective office, his opponents’ ads will practically write themselves.
I’m afraid that too many people agree with him.
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@Greg Norton said:
Build a wall around CA and OR and then build it higher. Gun towers too.
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somemany ways it’s our own “refugees” that are causing the spread of a progressive pestilence that is worse than Ebola.That was going on when I lived in Oregon 45 years ago. People were migrating from California to Oregon and then trying to turn the place in the crappy place they just left. Native Oregonians were complaining back they about the CA influence.
The CA refugees were tired of being in crowded subdivisions. So they moved and built crowded subdivisions. Wanted lower taxes then voted measures that were going to cause increased taxes. Complained about the traffic but had three or four vehicles they would use to drive to the mailbox.
Years later these same people were complaining about the people moving in from California. It was OK for them to relocate but not others. When I would hear them complain I would ask why they moved from CA and it was OK but now it was not OK for others. They generally just walked away with some snarky comment.
I guess these people are now invading Washington state.