08:37 – It was 65.3F (18.5C) when I took Colin out at 0650, clear and sunny.
Barbara is heading for the gym this morning and then making a quick run down to Winston to have lunch with her friend Bonnie and then making a stop at Home Depot to pick up another platform ladder for downstairs and a gallon of VM&P naphtha for me. She’ll be back late this afternoon. Tomorrow and through the weekend, we’ll be doing kit stuff.
The recent events in Charlottesville remind me of a similar incident that occurred back in November, 1979. My parents had moved to Winston-Salem a couple of years previously, and I was visiting them when the incident occurred. It was the shootout in Greensboro between the KKK/Nazis and the Communists. I remember thinking at the time that it couldn’t have happened to more deserving people, and that it was a shame they hadn’t all shot each other.
Although one wouldn’t know it from reading the news reports, it seems that in Charlottesville the KKK/Nazis did everything by the book. They applied for a permit, which was duly granted, and then began a peaceful protest. Then the radical racist black vice-mayor withdrew the permit and ordered the white protesters out of town. They dispersed as ordered, individually and in small groups, and were set upon by roving bands of BLM/Antifa protesters, who had not even applied for a permit. Apparently, the young man who drove the car into a crowd of commie protesters had already been assaulted and battered more than once by groups of BLM/Antifa terrorists.
So it appears to me that the only way the KKK/Neo-Nazi group contributed to the violence was by being there. The actual violence was instigated and committed by the BLM/Antifa side, with the active support of the city government and the passive support of law enforcement, who stood by and did nothing to stop it. In other words, that woman’s death was entirely attributable to actions taken by the left, supported by city government and law enforcement.
I also read where the KKK/Nazis had their permit modified by the mayor. The group went to court and had the mayor’s decision overturned. The mayor then waited until they had gathered then declared the event an illegal gathering. However the BLM/Antifa people had gathered without a permit and were permitted to stay.
Another video has surfaced showing the vehicle that was operated by the person charged in the death as being hit many times with clubs and other violent behavior toward the driver. It may have been that the driver was simply trying to get away from a violent group, the BLM/Antifa idiots.
Trump is correct. There was violent behavior on both sides. The media is aghast that he would say such a thing. Yet from watching the videos there were clearly violent people on both sides. There is even video of the person that organized the rally being attacked a couple of times. Yet the media says nothing about such behavior.
It all comes back to the BLM/Antifa and liberals advocating freedom of speech, as long as the speech agrees with them. Many universities that pride themselves on freedom of expression and alternate points of view are now cancelling events for groups that do not fit the liberal agenda. Again, freedom of expression is OK on their campus as long as it is expression they agree upon.
Hold up a sign that says “White Lives Matter” and you are immediately a racist. Hold up a sign that says “Black Lives Matter” and you are immediately welcomed as progressive thinker with a correct mindset. Certainly not a racist by any stretch.
I have come to the conclusion that most progressives and liberals are nothing but two faced assholes.
I hate Nazis. I think white supremacists of any stripe are despicable.
But if I had to assign the balance of the blame for this event, I’d say it’s about 2% Nazi and 98% BLM/Antifa/government. The Nazis didn’t start the violence here; they used violence to defend themselves against violence initiated by the left. And, as you say, that driver had already been violently assaulted repeatedly, may well have been in fear of his life, and was simply trying to escape a vicious mob of lefties.
a vicious mob of lefties
Surely you jest? They all consider themselves peace loving individuals that want people to be free to live their lives as they see fit. They feel violence should never be used, well, until someone disagrees with them then the violence becomes justified.
I despise Nazis and any hate group. I despise BLM/Antifa which is just another hate group. They denounce hate, then say they hate white supremacy groups. The very thing they denounce they use against other groups. Makes no sense.
I got into a conversation yesterday with one of these liberals. They told hate should be abolished. I asked if they hated anyone or any group. They said no. I then asked if they hated white supremacy groups. They said yes. I asked if you think hate is so bad why do you hate another group? Are you not advocating what you say should be abolished? Their response was that I did not understand the issues and they walked away.
already/still the media is shifting the story, this quote from a picture caption:
” just days after white nationalists led a deadly protest over the planned removal of a statue in Virginia. ”
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Only one side brought acid or bleach to throw into the faces of their opponents.
I have no love for white supremacists, Nazis or skinheads, but the tactics of the Left are to deploy thugs to any meeting that takes place where peaceful white are people protesting. The government looks the other way as the thugs beat up and pepper spray the protesters while the media portrays the protesters as racists and the thugs as heroes fighting fascism. Good people are intimidated and afraid to decent, leaving the Left in control. Exactly what the Left and the government wants.
Sadly, that leaves the white supremacists, Nazis and skinheads as the only opposition to the oppressive, fascist Left. Although I don’t agree with most of their views, I’m glad that they’re opposing these fascist bastards.
I head for Google whenever anything involving what is contrary to correct opinion makes the news. The modal journalist, I find, is Lazy, Stupid, and Dishonest, and rather than taking the time to find out what is really being said and why, prefers to go into automatic mode and crank out PC boilerplate. I believe in reading what a man says directly rather than reading what someone says he says.
From the brief Googling I’ve done, I see that the audience the “Unite the Right” rally attracted (and this is not an exhaustive list): people who don’t want to see historical monuments destroyed; Southern patriots (who certainly are not in favor of re-establishing slavery); people who have had their fill of vilification of white people by media, academia, and the entertainment industry; people fed-up with political correctness; Southern Secessionists; European Traditionalists; Racial Nationalists (who believe that multi-racial, multi-cultural societies can’t work and that each peoples should have their own nation–not an idea without its merits; I note that what are labeled as “white supremacists” are really “white separatists”), Identitarians, normal people, people itching for a fight, 1888ers (A is the first letter of the alphabet, H, is the eighth, 1888 means AH HH; what that stands for is left as an exercise for the student; hint: “A” is the first name of a certain German statesman), and Ku-Kluxers. As a friend of mine put it, marginal movements (which is not to say such movements are necessarily bad or wrong) attract marginal people. Focusing on the pathological outliers to characterize the whole is a long-used technique (see “poisoning the well”).
As Google is ramping up censoring, it will no longer be practical to do what I do to get a fuller picture of any controversy.
I hate Illinois Nazis … but I think the left has seen to many repeat screenings of “The Blues Brothers” without heeding the lesson that Belushi’s character, “Joliet Jake”, died in prison after the events of the first film.
“Their response was that I did not understand the issues and they walked away.”
That’s right. They won’t address the obvious schizo problem with their beliefs so it must be you that’s the problem; you’re clearly stupid and behind the curve and not worth discussing anything with. If that didn’t work, they would have shouted you down and then walked away.
“Only one side brought acid or bleach to throw into the faces of their opponents.”
Also urine and excrement of unknown origins.
Meanwhile, Murkan derps still tuning in to the tee-vee nooz and their local WAPO-supplied rags (like up here; half the Saint Albans Messenger stories have WAPO bylines; so informed wife and also told her it’s a CIA-funded entity) are getting nearly total bullshit on what happened in Virginia the other day. It’s completely the fault of the evil Nazis and KKK gangsters and running dogs of fascism, beating and murdering peaceful protestors, and they could not have found a much better victim to splash all over the media than the young female paralegal who died. Only victim better would have been a little kid for them. They’ve even got tRump furiously backpedaling and braying that he, too, is against white supremacists and Nazis!!! While he continues his pissing match with the media assholes. (why even bother? just cut their mikes!)
” Although I don’t agree with most of their views, I’m glad that they’re opposing these fascist bastards.”
No enemies to the Right, for now. This is where we’re at now; no one else is doing diddley about standing up to these shitbags. Not our government and not our police. They’re actually ENABLING this stuff. Against us and our shared history.
So this is the early 21st-C version, so far, of those old brownshirt fascists versus commie fascists street battles in Europe during the 1920s-30s. It’s likely to get more violent and deadly; someone is gonna start shooting, and they’re likely to have better weapons and training than the local cops. Watch the government then mobilize the Army and Marines accordingly.
From the Good Question Department:
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2017/08/16/bracken-where-are-the-national-guard-videos/
Probably being studied for future reference.
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/08/15/functional-illiterates-trying-to-erase-history/
They just keep pushing and pushing.
Some common sense here; learn the history. We don’t really wanna repeat it.
Then we have shit like this:
https://forwardobserver.com/2017/08/anti-trump-activist-executed-his-republican-neighbor-after-lengthy-dispute/
I imagine we’ll see more of it as time goes by; j’ever notice how enraged lefties get when called out on their schizo bullshit?
Yep, days old story. Already off the pages and out of mind.
Incidentally, not the first or only one of its kind lately.
If you are in conflict with any of your neighbors, co-workers, acquaintances, employees, or family, TAKE SOME TIME, and take a cold hard look at that conflict. Don’t just keep on going without considering that the other side may take it more seriously than you do. Consider that their animosity might be escalating, possibly BECAUSE you keep poohpoohing the seriousness of the conflict.
Several of the similar stories had a common element. Ongoing low to medium intensity conflict, that suddenly erupted into deadly force. People are stressed. Crazy from isolation, drugs, medication, pressure, or brain chemistry. They are looking for a reason to flip, justification to escalate. DON”T give them one, and DON”T be caught unprepared.
nick
They just keep pushing and pushing.
I was laughing at “Obama & Spike Lee University.” Then I wasn’t laughing because that is already happening. Renaming of “Confederate” named schools to “Ofukstik”, etc. When the U.S. Army does start renaming base streets that have “Confederate” names, the end is nigh because Ofukstik’s purge of the Army leadership will have taken effect.
Great article, Mr. OFD
Right. Don’t do that. Instead, Be Like Steve: pooh-pooh their worth as a human being, the seriousness of any of their concerns, and any value they think they bring to the neighborhood or the species.
Words of wisdom: Be Like Steve
Great. Now I gotta worry about wife shivving me with a steak knife.
Oh wait—I was always worried about that!
But seriously, Mr. Nick’s right (again): as things get spicier and sportier in our society, people will get more uptight and often be seething/simmering below the surface. We saw that a couple of weeks ago in our vets group. Our guy is alone at home most of the time and dealing with a bunch of serious medical issues, pretty isolated, pissed off and bitter, like many of us. Plus he watches and listens to the nooz and over many months with us, gets to hear certain parties occasionally make libtard political remarks in passing that generally either go unchallenged (’cause no one wants to stir the shit) or someone will say we don’t do politics or religion in the group.
But months go by and our guy has obviously been simmering all along, until he finally blows his stack, loses his shit, etc., and says some pretty unpleasant things. Plus he has guns at home and is kind of a gun guy. (not as evil as me, though). Previously, another one of our guys, who we hadn’t heard say jackshit for YEARS, suddenly blew his stack and talked about how much he’d hated, and still hates, officers, and wanted/wants to kill them. Former tunnel rat who later became a combat medic and had around forty guys die on him, names on The Wall now.
These are kind of extreme examples, combat vets, after all; but stay tuned, like Nick says, and watch your low-level conflicts with people in your life; be careful out there!
“… pooh-pooh their worth as a human being, the seriousness of any of their concerns, and any value they think they bring to the neighborhood or the species.”
And Mr. SteveF wins the innernet today!
Boffo laffs! I will steal this for my grad school program in mental health counseling!
Well, fuck him, too.
Like I say, some unpleasant things have been getting discussed lately. I do not condone murdering officers or any other soldiers, but my experience and that of others has been that some officers are too stupid and careless and dangerous to be entrusted with the lives of their troops; that goes for some NCOs, too. Use the chain-of-command from the field to address the issue? Difficult. Minutes to act?
That said, I can understand how a guy who did the tunnel rat gigs for quite a while and then served as a combat medic might get his knickers/skivvies in a knot if he also had bad experiences with military officers back in the day.
We also have two ex-officers in our group and they did not get upset or angry when this stuff came up. We all recognize that there is no other place this sort of talk would get done, and the one-on-ones with therapists and shrinks don’t count because very few of them are combat veterans. This could be where your humble northern correspondent might come in, down the road a bit. We’ll see.
“Only one side brought acid or bleach to throw into the faces of their opponents.”
Also urine and excrement of unknown origins.
Also coke cans full of concrete.
Like I say, some unpleasant things have been getting discussed lately. I do not condone murdering officers or any other soldiers, but my experience and that of others has been that some officers are too stupid and careless and dangerous to be entrusted with the lives of their troops; that goes for some NCOs, too. Use the chain-of-command from the field to address the issue? Difficult. Minutes to act?
You’ll have to go pretty far up the chain. After my experience living in the Tampa suburbs with officers and consultants serving at MacDill, I don’t think either of the commands based there should be entrusted with the lives of real military people.
Scary thing is, MacDill runs our current wars and will probably have a part to play in future misadventures around the globe.
What it all comes down to is Normals versus Elites.
One of the things that I really notice living up here in little Sparta is that nearly all of the Normals we encounter–which is to say almost everyone–is sensible. That’s across the board, without reference to education level, likely intelligence, or anything else. They understand how the world works, and are functioning parts of it. And the value of that should not be underestimated.
Not many snowflakes up here, other than the winter kind.
Not many snowflakes, but I’d wonder about the local skool system and its teachers and administrators. Also any media, like the local paper and any radio or tee-vee stations. The commie rot is everywhere now.
Not many snowflakes, but I’d wonder about the local skool system and its teachers and administrators. Also any media, like the local paper and any radio or tee-vee stations.
The healthcare system will have a solid infestation, nurses and administrators.
Doctors will be a wildcard, but the young ones who went to school on family money and have trust funds will be Progs just like my wife’s associate in WA State — her daddy was a prominent dentist in Houston.
Yeah, forgot about the “healthcare” system.
The Long March has paid major dividends for the commies in the West. What might have been considered unbelievably insane shit half a century ago is now day to day mundane and hardly even thought of.
From tres outres to de rigeur.
“I’d wonder about the local skool system and its teachers and administrators. Also any media, like the local paper and any radio or tee-vee stations. ”
Those teachers/admins I’ve met have all been Normals, usually locals and church-going. The local paper is basically one guy and his secretary, also Normals. We have a local radio station that plays country music, weather, and farm reports, so I’m assuming it’s all Normals. I think I mentioned that soon after we moved up here I sat in on the “adults” panel for a quiz bowl event for the local high school. All the kids, as far as I could tell, were Normals. Things like 4H and FFA are big around here. Mostly Normals as far as I can tell.
I haven’t met anyone from the hospital, but I’ve met both dentists and their staffs. Again, local or from small towns, and Normals.
Oh, yeah. I’ve met quite a few of the county/town politicians and cops. All Normals, as far as I can tell.
I will admit that Clinton drew massive support up here. She got more than 20% of the vote, but I’m assuming those were mostly Yellow Dog democrats rather than progs. I’ve yet to see anyone up here who looked like a prog.
She got more than 20% of the vote, but I’m assuming those were mostly Yellow Dog democrats
Or dead people.
@rbt, you are forgetting the permanent underclass. we’ve got at least a 3 way matrix going.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-17/confederate-monuments-in-baltimore-removed-overnight/8814442
I’m wondering when the lefties will tear down the Lincoln Memorial in DC because he was a willing to accept slavery to keep the Union together until he issued the Emancipation Proclamation. Not to mention, that despite the fact that he freed the slaves, he had some very prejudiced views about blacks.
Yeah, once we start yanking out monuments, it becomes a slippery slope–oh wait—the lefties and progs are all schizo. So they can just make shit up as they go along. I bet they don’t bother the Lincoln memorial but WILL do something to Jefferson’s and maybe Washington’s. Unless the Mordor cops have a set and do something about them.
Professor Wilson was a big KKK supporter so he’s gotta go.
Pharaoh Roosevelt I was death on Hispanics, gotta go, Teddy.
Larry Klinton treated women like shit–oh wait–that’s OK. See, that’s a small price to pay for all the commie shit he got accomplished.
Obummer was busy murdering musloids, including Murkan citizens—oh wait–he gets a pass, too; for the greater good of commie shit.
Enquiring minds wanna know: when will they bus on out to Mount Rushmore and dynamite that bad boy? Bring along some Khmer Rouge and Taliban demolition experts, maybe….
…start recalling Murkan currency and postage stamps….wipe out pictures from history textbooks (get some old Soviet retirees to consult on airbrushing techniques, etc.)
Not to mention, that despite the fact that he freed the slaves, he had some very prejudiced views about blacks.
Don’t Take The Name of Thy Lord Lincoln in Vain. Said every Libturdian from Odouchnozzle on back.
“Emancipation Proclamation”
Had zero effect on freeing slaves, since it applied only to Free States. It was a cynical attempt to stir up slave rebellion in the CSA.
“Had zero effect on freeing slaves…”
Not its intent at all; it was done for purely military reasons. But he’s been treated like a minor deity ever since, anyway. Given the choice, and what he’d told visiting black celebs during one meeting, he would have joyfully sent them all back to Afrika. And the ones that went on their own created……Liberia.
GoogleDuckDuckGo that place up.I guess, as long as the juice keeps running…
https://forwardobserver.com/2017/08/u-s-said-to-be-outgunned-in-electronic-cyber-warfare/
Right now their gizmos can beat our gizmos, it seems.
Shut off the juice and no one will have working gizmos.
Then it’ll be back to boots on the ground and radios with batteries.
Pharaoh Roosevelt I was death on Hispanics, gotta go, Teddy.
I read an interesting story about his son, Ted Jr., in my American Rifleman magazine last night. Ted Jr. was a Brigadier General during D-Day and led the first wave of his troops to Utah beach. He was the only General to land on D-Day. Unfortunately, he died of a heart attack a month later while leading his troops through France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt_Jr.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-17/confederate-monuments-in-baltimore-removed-overnight/8814442
I am guessing that this is just another symptom of white flight to the suburbs. The remaining people in the inner cities tend to be minority and vote for extremely liberal politicians.
Yep, Ted, Jr. was a pretty good guy and a definite loss to us when he died. He walked the walk like he talked the talk, can’t ask for more than that. Lead from the front.
“The remaining people in the inner cities tend to be minority and vote for extremely liberal politicians.”
Because they hand out the goodies that other people have paid for. Been going on since the Irish immigrants hit the American cities in the 19th-C. Demagogues, pressuring someone else to cough up the money for the handouts while taking a healthy cut for themselves.
FWIW: I know a lot of people that are easily considered “normals” but have very much different political leanings than I do. To give perspective; my views are very close to what seems to be the views of most of this forum (talk about an echo chamber 🙂 )
Just saying – you have to get to know most reasonable, adult people fairly well before their views become clear. I have more than a few friends that are in the area of “agree to disagree”. Don’t assume that just because people seem normal, that they follow your thinking. Some may surprise you – you need to be careful what you say these days (much as I hate to say that).
PS. I have met some very seemingly “non-normal” people that have views very much in line with what I consider reasonable once you get to know them. For example, last month, I was riding a free bus in the great state of California (to go check out the Queen Mary). It was mid morning on a weekday and the only other passenger was a large lady that looked to be on the dole. She was telling someone on her phone to stop calling her. After she hung up, I mentioned that she should add the number to her blocked list. She said she had and he kept changing numbers. It started a conversation and we talked for the rest of the ride about all kinds of things – mostly family. A really good conversation. When I got off the bus, she said “bless you”. It made me feel bad in a way, seemed that she was grateful that a privileged white dude would talk to her like a friend. It is sad that we are at that point. And I am NOT a liberal snowflake!
I really feel like a Pollyanna to say it but: “can’t we all just get along” (Rodney King). I know the answer to that unfortunately.
If the Klan and the Communists want to shoot at one another, I’ll cough up a few bucks for ammo, make sure each side is equally well equipped.
As for as Lincoln trying to stir up a slave rebellion in the states engaged in rebellion, that seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable tactic. Causing trouble in your enemy’s back yard hurts him and therefore helps you.
Mr. Bill F brings up a very good point; there are individual human beings out here, who have their own stories; we can’t always judge somebody instantly as a Normal or a prog. It’s way too easy to work with a broad brush and smear whole sub-populations. Some of the Normals are people you wouldn’t want in your house or yard. Ever. And yet it’s possible, once in a blue moon, to have a conversation with an SJW or prog. Maybe for a minute or two, anyway, before they start screaming and shutting you down.
Most of us are just regular derps trying to make it through another day. And some of us have liberal Dems in our own families, so what are we to do? I can attest it’s nearly impossible to bring up political or religious stuff in this particular house.
But they knew where I stood from the beginning; somewhere to the right of Pat Buchanan politically, and a traditionalist Roman Catholic like him.
We’ll have to try to find peaceful encounters as much as we can in the coming turmoil, is my view.
“As for as Lincoln trying to stir up a slave rebellion in the states engaged in rebellion, that seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable tactic. Causing trouble in your enemy’s back yard hurts him and therefore helps you.”
Nice try. The people in those states were defending their homeland from Northern army invaders. The so-called Emancipation was a dirty nasty trick, but typical of a slick railroad and banking lawyer. Booth & Company should have nailed him and Stanton right away, in 1861-62.
And for that matter, people in Iraq and Afghanistan have also been fighting against foreign invaders—-us.
Hey, OFD, rumor has it that your blood pressure isn’t high enough. Herewith, LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP.
“Most of us are just regular derps trying to make it through another day. And some of us have liberal Dems in our own families, so what are we to do? I can attest it’s nearly impossible to bring up political or religious stuff in this particular house.”
Amen Brother. The scary part is that things where we used to “agree to disagree” and not discuss further (at least in my adult life time) are now getting to be to the stage of “them’s fighting words!” I don’t look forward to where this is going -but I have to admit: I am proud our our dear leader (mostly).
“I am proud our our dear leader (mostly)”
My blushes, Watson.
“Man is the only animal that blushes – or needs to” (Mark Twain).
A touch! A distinct touch.
“After she hung up, I mentioned that she should add the number to her blocked list. ”
My rule is: If you ain’t my contacts list, I’m not answering the phone.
If you keep calling you get added to my contact named Spam. Which has a silent ringtone.
I’ve done my best to kill voice mail. If you know me, you know my e-mail address or to send a txt to my smarty pants phone.
That’s how I roll.
“LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP.”
Do I have to wear clothes?
Hey, OFD, rumor has it that your blood pressure isn’t high enough. Herewith, LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP.
Please tell me this is BS! Please!
Hey, OFD, rumor has it that your blood pressure isn’t high enough.
WTF is “Twospirit?”
“A touch! A distinct touch.”
I give, RBT – you moved faster than my brain can follow. But it is late at night and I had a full day (yea – that’s my excuse).
“PS. I have met some very seemingly “non-normal” people that have views very much in line with what I consider reasonable once you get to know them. ”
Yeah, here too. I think tats are creepy/trashy. I know a few tatted folks that are really smart and fun to talk to. Ditto for Mexicans and whatever the dusky ones call themselves this year. And jaysuss… ex-military folks can come across as insane but like OFD most are good people.
I know several white folk that would be happy to sneak into your house and steal everything. And same for the tatted and all the rest.
I think most folks are decent. Might be setting myself up to be killed, but.
At a guess, I’d guess it’s BS.
– Monday, June 6 would be 2016, a year ago.
– Checking several search engines shows no mention of this prior to two days ago.
– The lettering for the initialism and its expansion is darker and sharper than the rest of the lettering.
And thanks for spilling the beans before OFD was able to rant his way into a seizure. Sheesh. Remind me not to count on your help for anything.
My Bad -won’t happen again.
And yet it’s possible, once in a blue moon, to have a conversation with an SJW or prog. Maybe for a minute or two, anyway, before they start screaming and shutting you down.
My wife’s Prog associate in WA State was okay in small doses, but her husband quaffed deep from the Doh-bama Kool-aid.
They ended up in Vantucky/Portlandia after a short stint in small town Texas, out in the Hill Country. I never heard the full story, but the husband did something stinky running for a local office in what was (and still is) ground zero of the state’s secessionist movement.
And thanks for spilling the beans before OFD was able to rant his way into a seizure. Sheesh. Remind me not to count on your help for anything.
So how do we know that OFD is not having a seizure right now ?
I had to look up TwoSpirit, Pansexual, and Demisexual. Um, I’m sorry but that is getting really strange.
I know several white folk that would be happy to sneak into your house and steal everything.
Hey, how did you meet my youngest brother ? I picked him up one time after a one month stint in the county jail and took him to my house. The next morning, Sunday, I told him he was coming with us to church. He refused, saying that too many people would ask him questions. So, I locked him out of the house and he went on walkabout until we got home.
I hear you Paul. And FWIW, my problem with tats: I agree they tend to be creepy/trashy. I know a few tatted folks (and some great friends) that are really smart and fun to talk to / deal with. But, I was born in the late 50s, and have these prejudices I am having trouble shaking about tats (especially the homemade/prison ones):
1: cool if you were in the armed services.
2: not cool if you got them in prison or an outlaw biker gang.
3: not cool if you got it thinking it would make you “cool”.
4″ cool if you were in a kick a$$ band! (proof is required)
I Guess I am too old, but that is how I think of Tats in general. Some of my friends/family have them so I don’t bitch about them excessively. Sometimes, I want to remind people that they were invented to mark slaves (but I keep my mouth shut – after all it is 2017)
Whew, done for the day.
Got a pallet of rock (like extra big flagstone) in an auction. Wife wants a new garden walk. Was a really good price and the materials were something we’d already considered. I wanted a man made but similar paver, just to make install easier. But this natural rock will work well, and it was CHEAP.
The downside was I had to transfer it to my truck by hand. And then UNload it at my house as I need the truck empty for tomorrow’s pickups. I don’t know the total weight, but it’s a 4×4 pallet, 2 1/2 feet high. I’m guessing over a thousand pounds. And I moved it from a pallet, up into the truck, then back down onto a pallet. F me I’m tired and sore. Took 2 hours to load in the hot sun. I’d work 5 minutes, then sit with the AC blowing on me for 5, then work, etc. Was over 105 in the sun. Went much quicker in dusk and with gravity on my side.
Getting old is a bitch.
n
1: cool if you were in the armed services.
2: not cool if you got them in prison or an outlaw biker gang.
3: not cool if you got it thinking it would make you “cool”.
4″ cool if you were in a kick a$$ band! (proof is required)
5: Cool if a woman had a mastectomy and a tattoo is the only way that she can get a nipple and aureola after reconstruction.
EDIT: I really do not like sleeve tattoos. I saw a lot of them on Marines when we were visiting the son at 29 Palms though.
” they were invented to mark slaves ” really? Or is that just the western origin? I thought pacific islanders did it first as decoration… but I’m no expert. The fact is they’re hear and very mainstream now. Although neck and face tats are still a pretty big statement that you don’t care if you’ll never work in an office….
n
“5: Cool if a woman had a mastectomy and a tattoo is the only way that she can get a nipple and aureola after reconstruction.”
I worked a plastic surgery convention, and one of the many very weird things was watching a rough looking fat guy, in full biker fashion, teaching a room full of [fresh faced white] doctors how to tattoo nipples. The session on the ‘fishtail’ cut to allow creating the nipple and the practice time with pig parts afterward was icing on the cake.
I saw so many botched and failed tummy tucks and boob jobs in that week that it put me off women for a while. Killed my libido completely.
nick
BTW, when it gets like this, even if you’ve got 5 man years of food stored per person, you better not eat it….
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/maduro-diet-venezuelans-suffer-drastic-weight-loss-hunger-crisis-strikes
Your neighbors WON’T let their kids starve if they think you have food.
n
Depends on the type of stone and how it was cut and stacked, but I’d guess 3000 pounds. Crushed stone, like for driveways, is over a ton per cubic yard. (Again, depends on the type of stone.)
re tattoos, about the only type I’d conceivably get would be a wedding ring tattoo. I won’t tolerate any jewelry or anything else on my hands or wrists, but would accept a ring tattoo. As it happened, I never got around to it and at this point it would be foolish to get a tattoo that would likely last longer than the marriage will.
I worked a plastic surgery convention, and one of the many very weird things was watching a rough looking fat guy, in full biker fashion, teaching a room full of [fresh faced white] doctors how to tattoo nipples. The session on the ‘fishtail’ cut to allow creating the nipple and the practice time with pig parts afterward was icing on the cake.
The problem is that what God created, man can only create a poor shadow of. The fishtail nipple reconstruction flattens over time and just becomes a scar. The tattooing fades over a decade to just skin color. The medical guys do not put heavy metals in their ink so it fades quickly.
I saw so many botched and failed tummy tucks and boob jobs in that week that it put me off women for a while. Killed my libido completely.
I can see how easy it would be to botch any of those. For my wife, the 17 inch long hip to hip scar for the tummy tuck did not fade for years. And the scar showed above a bikini so those went away. MDACC gave her a tummy tuck so they could use her belly skin and fat for the breast reconstruction. And they create a simulated belly button since the old belly button goes away. Since they removed seven vertical inches of skin, she could not stand straight for months until the old belly skin stretched a couple of inches.
“Emancipation Proclamation”
Had zero effect on freeing slaves, since it applied only to Free States.
No, the Emacipation Proclamation only applied to states in the Confederacy. Slaves in the slave states in the Union were not freed by the action, so we had the 13th amendment. It was a war powers action that effectively confiscated the slaves in the areas in rebellion and then freed them.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/maduro-diet-venezuelans-suffer-drastic-weight-loss-hunger-crisis-strikes
Your neighbors WON’T let their kids starve if they think you have food.
That is why you will have to take your food and bug out if you live in an urban area. It is better if your food is stored in your bug out place. I wonder about the suburban areas too, like where I live.
Did you read the comments ? Here is my, uh, favorite for lack of a better word.
“Lack of food…now see!”
“In socialist authoritarianism utopias it always balances itself out! No food means you need less toilet paper comrades! The Marxists really do think of everything!”
Wow, they were talking about getting the skin from football shaped patches over the shoulder blades. One DR was telling the funny story of how not to get sued. He dropped the harvested skin. Had to wake up the patient, and then harvest the other shoulder blade area. The punchline is “happy patients don’t sue– in this case it took a boob job for her sister and an new chin for hubby!” HA ha!
and now for something completely different.
https://youtu.be/7Nht4lMHka0?list=RDUnBeeG-Gv-k
It’s a musical number, from a bollywood movie or video, set in a western frontier town, kind of spaghetti western meets bollywood, with dancing!
n
Off topic. Some of you may recall my way off topic and way off my normal behavior post about putting my cat down a while ago. Update is we have two cat siblings; male and female from the same litter. They are a great joy and a great addition to our family – but they do like to walk on the keyboard… Kittens are good for putting things in perspective (so are puppies).
Of course they walk on the keyboard. They’re making sure you realize that your hands are on the keyboard when your hands should be busy petting their divine feline selves.
yep!
“… rumor has it that your blood pressure isn’t high enough.”
Thanks. It’s borderline. Stuff like that sends it into hyper-overdrive. I want to kill all these people.
” It was a war powers action that effectively confiscated the slaves in the
areas in rebellionstates defending against Northern invasion and then freed them.”FIFY
“Update is we have two cat siblings; male and female from the same litter.”
Congrats, Bill F. Cats rule and dogs drool. Kittens are special.
““Emancipation Proclamation”
Had zero effect on freeing slaves, since it applied only to Free States.
No, the Emacipation Proclamation only applied to states in the Confederacy”
I probably should have phrased that better. What I meant was that the slave states were not subject to Lincoln’s authority and ignored it.
@Bill F – congratulations on the new felines.
And a big thumbs up to @OFD for his comment on cats and kittens.
Didn’t the Emancipation Proc only apply to southern slaves that joined the union army? At least at first?
Don’t care enough to read it….
n
OFD wrote:
“Congrats, Bill F. Cats rule and dogs drool.”
Cats are loveless parasites. That’s why musloids love them so much. OTOH, they hate dogs, who are true friends.
I don’t like tats on guys, let alone fembots. But it’s their bodies. Just so long as I don’t have to like it.
My goodness, what a 20th Century attitude. Mere “toleration” is no longer good enough. You must embrace things you don’t like and honor the people who express words or actions or preferences that you don’t like. In fact, you must praise them as your enlightened superiors in all ways.
“In fact, you must praise them as your enlightened superiors in all ways.”
I’ve encountered people from time to time who were my superiors in a certain area, although usually not by much. I have, for example, in my time been beaten by a few tennis players (two of whom went on to win Wimbledon). And I have in my time played with and against people who were my superior in duplicate bridge. I’ve encountered many who were my superiors in Shotokan karate (which is natural, since the furthest I progressed there was shodan (beginner) or first dan black belt). And more than a few who were my superior at combat pistol shooting, or any number of other endeavors I could mention.
But I have yet to encounter anyone whom I’d concede was my superior generally, and certainly none who were prog snowflakes.
Didn’t the Emancipation Proc only apply to southern slaves that joined the union army? At least at first?
No, it was effectively a confiscation of the slaves by the Union Army in the states in rebellion and freeing them. Contra what OGH said, it had a dramatic effect as by the end of the war over 75% of the slaves in the US were freed. It still took the 13th amendment to abolish slavery in all the state, though in two Union slave states the state themselves abolished it.
Humf. Didn’t care in class, don’t care much now, but wanted to get it right if it comes up.
thanks,
n
From the Actual Murkan History Department:
https://straightlinelogic.com/2017/08/17/in-america-propaganda-has-vanquished-truth-by-paul-craig-roberts/