Tuesday, 1 August 2017

By on August 1st, 2017 in Cassie, personal, science kits

07:18 – It was 61.7F (16.5C) when I took Colin out at 0625, mostly cloudy and calm.

We got a lot done on science kits yesterday. We’ll get more bottles filled this morning. Barbara is volunteering at the Friends bookstore this afternoon. I’ll get more solutions made up and bottle labels printed while she’s gone.

As usual this time of year, we’re in limiting-quantities mode. For example, Sunday we made up 18 chemical bags for the CK01B chemistry kits because of the chemicals we needed we had only 18 of one in stock. Yesterday we built those 18 CK01B kits and stacked them in the finished goods inventory closet.

After updating the chemical bottles inventory, we looked at the next mini-project. We’re down to about a dozen of the BK01 biology kits, and the limiting quantity on those is 11. So we’ll make up 11 more biology chemical bags and get those 11 kits built. Meanwhile, building the 18 CK01B kits took us down to zero potassium permanganate bottles in stock. Those are required for both the CK01A and CK01B kits, so I made up more potassium permanganate solution. We’ll next label and fill 120 30-mL bottles of that. That makes the limiting quantity for CK01A and CK01B kits the 8 bottles of phenolphthalein we have in stock, so we’ll get more of that made up and 120 bottles labeled and filled. And so on. Rinse and repeat.


Email yesterday from Cassie, whom I hadn’t heard from for three months or so. She and her husband have reached steady-state on prepping. They have more than a year’s worth of LTS food for themselves, including a lot of home-canned meats. Cassie isn’t local, and her husband’s parents retired to Florida, so they don’t have any close relatives living locally. Most of their friends and neighbors are fairly well prepared just by virtue of living in a rural area, but they are accumulating extra LTS bulk foods so they can help friends/neighbors out if it comes to that.

They’re content with their preps in non-food areas. They talked about electric power and decided they didn’t need to do much in that respect. They have a generator that originally belonged to her husband’s parents, and have four 6-gallon gas cans filled with treated gasoline. which they periodically transfer into their vehicles’ tanks and refill with fresh gasoline. They figure that’ll cover them for normal short-term emergencies.

They did buy a 100W Renogy solar kit on Amazon along with a bunch of Eneloop NiMH rechargeables and 12V chargers, an AC trickle charger, and a pair of small deep-cycle batteries locally. They keep the batteries trickle-charged on house current, but can switch over to the solar panel if mains power goes down.

They’ve tested that and found that it works to keep them in AA and AAA cells for their LED flashlights/lanterns, radios, and so on. They have spring water and are willing, at least for now, to do without stuff like refrigeration that would require a larger solar installation, more batteries, and an AC inverter.

105 Comments and discussion on "Tuesday, 1 August 2017"

  1. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Where did everybody go?

  2. MrAtoz says:

    Here I sit, broken hearted…

    Speaking of FLASHLIGHTS, I just ordered the Nitecore SRT9. One cannot have enough FLASHLIGHTS!  I like 18650 batteries!

  3. OFD says:

    “Where did everybody go?”

    1.) I bummed everybody out with my series of nasty, hateful and bigoted links last night and very early this morning.

    2.) or, the weather is so delightful, that everyone is out having a ball today.

    3.) Everyone is just wicked busy prepping, training and tooling up.

    4.) Everybody has been arrested and taken in for interrogations, and they’ve left me and MrAtoz and RBT and Nightraker out so it looks like we’re the rats.

    Another day of sun and blue skies; wow. I keep waiting for a t-storm hammer to drop and another solid week of rain.

    Errands and chores today, exciting.

  4. DadCooks says:

    I’m just going through an ambivalent phase about everything.

    We have had a streak of 100+ days for all of July and August is starting off serious with finally a “heat advisory” for the next 10 days.. Forecast is is 107 today, 108 tomorrow, then 109 and 110. Actual temperatures at my place will be 5 to 8 degrees higher.

    Heading out for regular doctor appointment.

  5. Harold says:

    Excessive Alerts from our SIEM service have kept me too busy to say Boo. So far all are false positives … (fingers crossed)

  6. Nick Flandrey says:

    I’m on my phone for the next week, which makes commenting tedious and linking nearly impossible.

    Beautiful day. Boat ride this afternoon.

    N

  7. SteveF says:

    Where did everybody go?

    Spent a lot of time the past couple days in talking to people — and I use the term loosely — at consulting companies, with conversations going along the lines of agreeing to the pay rate and start date and only then discovering that the client is in NYC. “Yes, I told you it’s in New York.” “The contract listing said Albany, NY, not NYC. NYC is three hours away from me.” “But you said you’re in New York!” “Yes. New York State!” After that the conversations kind of went downhill. I didn’t go so far as to swear at the tards, in Tamil, English, or any other appropriate language, but I was tempted.

    And another contract negotiation was looking good until the pay rate came up. I can see why he was holding that to the last, because it would have meant a 60% pay cut from my usual. Couple hours lost there. Only saving grace was that the tech interview was over the phone, so I didn’t have to waste an hour driving round trip, plus related fiddly-farting.

    Meanwhile, I’m editing a novel (gratis, for a friend) and teaching my daughter (who would be objecting a lot more strenuously to having to work over summer vacation if any of her friends were available).

  8. SVJeff says:

    We have had a streak of 100+ days for all of July

    A few years before I moved back to NC (in ’07), I lived north of Dallas and we had a summer with a string of 40 straight days over 100. Whenever I mentioned it, people here looked at me like I look at people from South Texas – “how can anyone live in that?!”

  9. SteveF says:

    We have had a streak of 100+ days for all of July

    Something’s wrong with that statement. July has only 31 days. You ought to go inside and cool down; I think the heat is getting to you.

  10. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “We have had a streak of 100+ days for all of July”

    High today is to be 78F, low tonight 57F. Pretty much what we’ve had the last several days and what we’re to have until Friday. On Saturday, a cool front is supposed to move it, with highs in the lower 70’s.

  11. RickH says:

    Heat advisory here in Olympic Peninsula also. Temps threatening to get close to 90F.

    Heh.

  12. Greg Norton says:

    Heat advisory here in Olympic Peninsula also. Temps threatening to get close to 90F.

    Vantucky has a forecast high for Thursday of 107. This is after one of their coldest winters in 30 years.

    I always check the forecast. One of the last thing my wife’s Prog associate said to her before we left in 2014 was, “Enjoy the heat in Texas.”

  13. SteveF says:

    -wise nod- Global Warming, which is to say Anthropogenic Climate Disruption, will do that.

    Speaking of, did you see the news about Australian government “scientists”, or maybe plain ol’ bureaucrats, were caught tampering with the temperature record? They claim it’s instrument shortcomings, simple error, no intent to deceive. Of course they do.

    Given that British (so-called) scientists tampered with temperature and other climate data, and NASA and NOAA tampered with temperature records and now Australians tampered with temperature data, one obvious conclusion is that white people are no longer allowed to do science. Move over, white guys, you’ve had your chance, you blew it, and now it’s someone else’s turn. It’s only fair, anyway.

    Another possible conclusion is that government “scientists” should not be allowed anywhere near science. (I’m not sure that the University of East Anglia climate “scientists” are strictly on the government payroll, but they get government funding.) But that, of course, is sheerest nonsense.

  14. OFD says:

    Low 80s here w/chance of showers and t-storms starting Thursday night through the weekend. No heat advisories anywhere near this AO, wot a shame. This is about as hot as it gets up here, and usually with a decent breeze off the bay and the inland sea from the south.

    WRT to the warmist liars, can we thus conclude that pretty much any “climate scientists” in the pay of, in some shape or form, governments, are probably liars and working overtime to deceive the rest of us? Or would that be going too far?

    As Tom Bethell has pointed out, a lot of these same warmist activists and bullshit artists were screeching at us thirty years ago about a new ice age and a nuclear winter. Paid liars, who coast from year to year, and gummint sinecure to private sector “foundations” and more sinecures, raking in the dough and the bennies; what must they really think about themselves deep down inside?

  15. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Another Ice Age is in fact significantly overdue, and would kill billions of humans. And, unlike the supposed bad effects of global warming, an Ice Age occurs very, very quickly (as in literally days to weeks to months versus decades to centuries). One day/week it’ll be a high of 87F and sunny in Miami. The next day/week the highs will be in the 20’s or 30’s F and steadily snowing. Ice Ages have very sharp tipping points.

    I’ve always said I hope that the warmists are right, because every tenth of a degree warmer overall helps delay that coming Ice Age.

  16. CowboySlim says:

    Playing tennis and then out for daily dog walk.

    Oh yeah, I am WASnonP minority on tennis court. Other three guys are Hawaiian born, Japanese ethnic if I am using nonPC profiling to characterize them. Yes, all three college educated and professional careers in aerospace. Outside of that, none on welfare.

  17. Greg Norton says:

    One day/week it’ll be a high of 87F and sunny in Miami. The next day/week the highs will be in the 20’s or 30’s F and steadily snowing.

    At least Florida will finally have a solution to the python problem in The Everglades.

    Florida wouldn’t last long with daytime highs in the 20-30 range. A cold Christmas usually means rolling blackouts during the afternoon as everyone is cooking dinner and cranking the (mostly electric) heat to 75.

  18. lynn says:

    Where did everybody go?

    We are in the dog days of Flame. Nobody wants to do anything.

    I went to bed at 3am last night and got up this morning at 1020am. I am getting weirder by the day (and you can quote me on that).

  19. Ray Thompson says:

    cranking the (mostly electric) heat to 75

    I would guess your assessment of the temperature is at least 10 degrees off. Many old folks ain’t happy until the temperature reaches 85.

  20. paul says:

    what must they really think about themselves deep down inside?

    That they be doin’ the Lawd’s work!! It seems to be the MO for a few other folks I could name.

    Tho that would be raaaaycist.

    I believe I just made my quota of micro and macro aggressions for the day. Perhaps for the week.

  21. lynn says:

    We got a cool front here in the Land of Sugar Saturday night. Our temperatures have dropped by 5 to 7 F both night (the 70s !) and day (low 90s). And our humidity dropped from 60% to 50%. Dropped the heat index by 10 F.

    The cool front is out in the Gulf of Mexico picking up water. It will come back tomorrow and drop about 3 to 5 inches of rain over the next 5 days. And drop our daytime temperatures down in the 80s.
    https://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=KSGR

  22. paul says:

    Many old folks ain’t happy until the temperature reaches 85.

    That would be my Mom….

  23. lynn says:

    what must they really think about themselves deep down inside?

    That they be doin’ the Lawd’s work!! It seems to be the MO for a few other folks I could name.

    Please save us from do gooders for the good of mankind. Especially those who want to legislate their do goodedness. They are the worst and will degenerate into socialism at the drop of a hat.

  24. lynn says:

    I would guess your assessment of the temperature is at least 10 degrees off. Many old folks ain’t happy until the temperature reaches 85.

    I took the wife and daughter to B&N Saturday evening. I dropped them off at the door and they walked 20 ft in. When we walked it out, the truck was about 250 ft away from the door and we walked to it. It was about 97 F. By the time we got to the truck, my daughter was beet red. The latest problem with the Lyme disease is that she is losing the ability to regulate her internal temperature in extremes. Not good.

  25. SteveF says:

    That they be doin’ the Lawd’s work!!

    That’s my observation, having contracted at a number of government agencies engaged in, at the least, excessive bureaucratizing.

    Fun fact: I gave serious thought to sabotaging a number of the projects I worked on, when one department was illicitly sharing citizens’ data with another or was otherwise operating on dubious legal grounds. I never needed to do any sabotage. The projects were always screwed up and wasted money and never worked quite right and data sharing never worked correctly. I never did figure out if someone beat me to the sabotage or if sheer ineptitude conquered all. Either way, technical monkey wrenches having been obviated, I had to content myself with whistleblowing, sending information to critical legislators, department heads, and one investigative reporter (who single-handedly refuted my belief that everyone who worked for a big newspaper was a nothing but a propagandist). (And resulting from that various whistleblowing, I was fired only once. Win!)

  26. lynn says:

    Oh my ! Amazon is developing a series where the southern states are given to the Blacks as reparations. “‘Black America’: Amazon Alt-History Drama From Will Packer & Aaron McGruder Envisions Post-Reparations America”
    http://deadline.com/2017/08/black-america-amazon-alt-history-drama-will-packer-aaron-mcgruder-envisions-post-reparations-america-1202139504/

    “It envisions an alternate history where newly freed African Americans have secured the Southern states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama post-Reconstruction as reparations for slavery, and with that land, the freedom to shape their own destiny. The sovereign nation they formed, New Colonia, has had a tumultuous and sometimes violent relationship with its looming “Big Neighbor,” both ally and foe, the United States. The past 150 years have been witness to military incursions, assassinations, regime change, coups, etc. Today, after two decades of peace with the U.S. and unprecedented growth, an ascendant New Colonia joins the ranks of major industrialized nations on the world stage as America slides into rapid decline. Inexorably tied together, the fate of two nations, indivisible, hangs in the balance.”

    What is wrong with these people ? This is absolutely crazy to propose this nonsense.

    Hat tip to:
    http://drudgereport.com/

    EDIT: And we did the reparations thing already with the country of Liberia. Look how that turned out.

  27. SteveF says:

    That sovereign nation would last approximately a week after they closed the Mississippi River to traffic in a show of power.

  28. SteveF says:

    Today, after two decades of peace with the U.S. and unprecedented growth, an ascendant New Colonia joins the ranks of major industrialized nations on the world stage as America slides into rapid decline.

    -wise nod- As suggested by the rapid boost in power and wealth in former African colonies after the Europeans ceded power.

  29. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “-wise nod- As suggested by the rapid boost in power and wealth in former African colonies after the Europeans ceded power.”

    Yep. Look what happened in Zimbabwe. They threw out those nasty white Rhodesians, and pretty soon they had literally trillions of times as much money as they had when those nasty white guys were running things.

  30. Greg Norton says:

    What is wrong with these people ? This is absolutely crazy to propose this nonsense.

    We’ll see if they move it beyond the development phase. Even the audience for streaming isn’t that fragmented.

  31. paul says:

    Nah, it would have never happened. Give up New Orleans and Mobile?

    They would have been marched out to New Mexico and Arizona. Like the Indians…..

  32. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    You know, I’ve just been exchanging email with Jerry Pournelle. I commented that I just realized while we were emailing back and forth that the first time we exchanged email was 40 years ago this year, when I was still in grad school and had a bang address. Jerry was on Compuserve.

    I was even more obnoxious then than I am now, and when Lucifer’s Hammer came out I emailed him to report that he’d made a math error. I think he forgot to square velocity when he was calculating the kinetic energy of the Hammer or something like that. He just mailed me back to say that he remembered that exchange, and that he and Larry fixed it after the first edition/first printing.

    And that got me to thinking, just having read more of the OPSEC crap on a couple of prepper websites, with people claiming they won’t share anything with anyone for any reason if TSHTF. Really?

    Jerry is 84 years old now, and in poor health. It’s not going to happen, but if Jerry and Roberta showed up at our door in a TEOTWAWKI situation, I’d take them in without a second thought. Turn away a friend of 40 years’ standing? NFW.

  33. OFD says:

    I would also take the Pournelles in here in a hahtbeat and feel privileged to do so. I’ve read his stuff since the 1970s and also exchanged email several times over that period. A solid American patriot and a credit to the country.

    Back from a recon checking the driving/traffic conditions out to the college I’d be attending for a couple of years; just about 50 minutes each way through typical rolling Vermont countryside and hills, which I happen to know is utterly spectacular in the fall and blindingly so, bringing tears to the eyes. And a couple of different routes to get there and back, too. It’s high up on a hill, which could be lotsa fun in the winta.

    And it looks like I won’t be seeing much of Mrs. OFD for quite a while; she’s up in NB for ten days and then has gigs back-to-back well into September. Although I might tag along for her CT gig down near Hartford again. While she’s at work I slide over and visit family still hanging on in Ye Olden Commonwealth of Maffachufetts. Including my 85-year-old mom who is declining with Pick’s Disease, a lovely variant of Alzheimer’s; my dad checked out at 71 in 1998 with early-onset Alzheimer’s. I’m not getting that; it has to be regular ol’ senility, cancer and/or gunshot. I’ve got the senility part nailed by now and am waiting on the rest.

    And two brothers and our sister are cancer survivors.

    I’m just a boring ol’ shrapnel and PTSD survivor.

    Would also like to see my surviving aunt and uncle, who live not far from Hartford; my aunt lives in Ye Olden Mystic Seaport, among narrow little colonial-era streets near the waterfront.

    And now back to more exciting chores and errands…..

  34. paul says:

    I have Lucifer’s Hammer in paperback. Cover price of $2.50. Copyright 1977.

    I sent him an e-mail years ago. A fan letter. In the darkness of pre-history when dial-up at 14.4 was fast. He replied. Alas, Netcom.com decided right about then to puke my Mighty 486/66 DX2. Or whatever it was. Expensive for sure. Er, Windows 3.11 didn’t help matters at all.

    If he and Roberta showed up on my door step, I have a spare bedroom. No problem.

    Actually, if you showed up, I have another spare bedroom. I’d even find room for our grouchy OFD.

  35. H. Combs says:

    Australian government “scientists”, or maybe plain ol’ bureaucrats, were caught tampering with the temperature record

    The tampering with historical temps in New Zealand got so bad that they were showing below freezing temps in years that recorded record crops. They make the trend look scary by reducing historical temps hoping no one will notice. In NZ the interior ministry made the mistake of keeping the unaltered records on-line albeit in a obscure location. Tampering … er “instrument adjustment”, was all too obvious. When the flunkies claimed they were simply correcting for instrument error they were asked how the country could produce record crops (also in the historical records) when the temp barely reached freezing. No answer.

  36. SteveF says:

    If TSHTF, I’m taking in only hot babes. I’ll trade them meals for entertainment. And a crisis situation would work out well for me, as I prefer women more slender than the typical American female silhouette, so a few weeks’ starvation will make them more appealing to me and more inclined to accept my offer.

    Let’s see, can I be any more un-PC? Why, yes, I can!

    And when I say “babe”, I mean only humans with XX chromosomes and without after-market alteration to primary or secondary sexual characteristics. “57 genders” is a pre-collapse luxury. After TSHTF, we’ll be back down to men, women, and the very rare freak (meant in the scientific sense, not the pejorative).

    OK, I’ve set the bar. Next contestant!

  37. OFD says:

    “I’d even find room for our grouchy OFD.”

    Thanks! I’d be on my best behavior, of course!

  38. SteveF says:

    They make the trend look scary by reducing historical temps hoping no one will notice.

    NASA/NOAA did the same in the US, reducing temperatures in the 1930s and 40s and dramatically increasing temperatures starting around 1995. And they’d have gotten away with it, too, if not for those meddling kids annoying people who made copies of the government-provided data before the alteration, who noticed the “adjustments” after they were published.

  39. OFD says:

    “…women more slender than the typical American female silhouette…”

    I guess they’re out there somewhere; rare sightings in this AO so fah. And the ones I’ve seen locally are really slender, as in stick figures, probably thanks to some form of substance abuse.

    And that will be my graduate degree specialty; mental health counseling for addictions/substance abuse. Who better, really? You don’t want some namby-pamby goody-two-shoes who never lit up, snorted, injected or swilled, do you? Yours truly is the real deal, amigos.

  40. CowboySlim says:

    “Many old folks ain’t happy until the temperature reaches 85.”

    Well, we got 76F right now on the left coast. Being only two units older than the temp, it’s enough for me. Furthermore, at 1 1/2 miles from the ocean, the humidity right now puts at the limit of comfort.

    OTOH, when in dkreck’s or MrAtoz’s locale, 85F is OK with their 10% humidity.

  41. SteveF says:

    Who better, really? You don’t want some namby-pamby goody-two-shoes who never lit up, snorted, injected or swilled, do you? Yours truly is the real deal, amigos.

    Good reasoning.

    By that standard, the only people I’d be able to counsel would be those addicted to making inappropriate jokes at the worst possible time. And I’d even be bad at that because I don’t see it as a problem which needs to be overcome.

  42. CowboySlim says:

    “As To.m Bethell has pointed out, a lot of these same warmist activists and bullshit artists were screeching at us thirty years ago about a new ice age and a nuclear winter. Paid liars, who coast from year to year, and gummint sinecure to private sector “foundations” and more sinecures, raking in the dough and the bennies; what must they really think about themselves deep down inside?”

    YUUUP, and remember the liars of 20 – 30 years ago and how R12 was going to do us in. With their example of how it was affecting the ozone layer in the southern hemisphere and all the cows in Chile were going blind as a result.

    OK, help me out here, was it the result of lie A or lie B?
    Lie A: More than 50% of the R12 released was in the southern hemisphere as opposed to the northern hemisphere, or
    Lie B: The laws of motion (particularly molecular diffusion) were invalid and although most of the R12 was released in the northern hemisphere, it was diffusing to the southern similar to heat flowing from low to high temperatures.

    CowboySlim, who has a can of R12 in his garage and can’t dispose of it without violating hazardous waste disposal laws.

  43. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “CowboySlim, who has a can of R12 in his garage and can’t dispose of it without violating hazardous waste disposal laws.”

    Just screw off the lid, warn it not to try to escape, and then leave it on its own for a little while.

  44. SteveF says:

    Take the lid off, inform the R12 that it shouldn’t cross the border (but that there’s a sanctuary atmosphere right over there) and then close your eyes to whatever happens.

  45. OFD says:

    And if it causes actual problems, blame it on the Twelve Years of Reagan-Bush and racism. You’ll be fine.

  46. lynn says:

    CowboySlim, who has a can of R12 in his garage and can’t dispose of it without violating hazardous waste disposal laws.

    Lynn, who has 20+ four long fluorescent bulbs in the workroom behind the printer table and can’t dispose of them without violating hazardous waste disposal laws.

  47. paul says:

    I have about 20 cans of r12. In the back bedroom closet, so, “climate controlled storage”. Don’t have any cars that use the stuff but ya never know …. a ’75 Cordoba might show up. Doubtful, but one can dream.

    Plus there is a tank in the boat shed. About the size of a propane tank. Sloshes like it is half full. No idea where it came from.

  48. paul says:

    Well, when I replaced the old central air unit with a heat pump…. I used a valve core tool to release the freon. That took a couple of hours.

    As for four foot long fluorescent tube, do a few at a time…. put them in a feed sack, er, 40# dog food bag, something tougher than a trash bag, and smack them with a stick. At the bottom of the bag and wear eye protection. They tend to be splody.

    Or find an empty dumpster.

  49. SteveF says:

    The best use for R12 cans is in terrifying greenies and other non-quantitative thinkers. (Where “thinkers” may be assumed to have multiple layers of sneer quotes.) You don’t even need refrigerant in them, just compressed air and a trigger mechanism. Go up to protestors at a “Save the transgendered polar bears” rally and spray “R12” in their faces. Make sure you get video.

  50. paul says:

    Oh heck, can we get a Like button here?

  51. OFD says:

    Indeed, a LIKE button would be superb! Mr.SteveF would get a lot of them.

    From the Dead and Dying Elephants Department:

    “The recent betrayal by the GOP of their voting base has shown the level of confusion and aimlessness within the party and raised the most terrifying of specters for a bureaucrat grifter, irrelevance. The progressives won and nothing has illustrated the utterly complete role reversal in such stark contrast as the paralysis of the Republican party during the Trump presidency. Priebus Inc. would do better to rebrand the entire organization the Grand Third Wheel, because the party has no platform, no purpose and certainly no direction.”

    https://virginiafreemen.com/2017/08/01/identity-crisis/

  52. DadCooks says:

    For anyone following cyber/crypto-currencies:
    https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/01/bitcoin-feud-splits-the-cryptocurrency-in-two/

    IMHO this is the greatest scam ever. Where will this be when the big EMP hits?

  53. SteveF says:

    Mr.SteveF would get a lot of them

    And a lot of dislikes. I might end up with a positive balance.

  54. OFD says:

    I dunno about any EMPs, but if the juice cuts out for long periods and across wide areas, I have my doubts as to the efficacy and durability of any crypto-currencies. But that also goes for all the ones and zeros that are our own fiat currency. The banks won’t be online anymore, nor the various financial speculators and brokerages and related government functions, like the Treasury and Fed.

    Forget the ATMs and EBT cards, too.

    The status of Bitcoin will be among the least of our worries.

  55. lynn says:

    Or find an empty dumpster.

    I’ve got a 6 yd^3 dumpster that I get emptied twice per week. But, it has my name associated with it. I might be brave enough to throw CFL’s into it in our trash bags but four footers, no way. Maybe very heavily camouflaged as you mentioned.

  56. lynn says:

    “The recent betrayal by the GOP of their voting base has shown the level of confusion and aimlessness within the party and raised the most terrifying of specters for a bureaucrat grifter, irrelevance. The progressives won and nothing has illustrated the utterly complete role reversal in such stark contrast as the paralysis of the Republican party during the Trump presidency. Priebus Inc. would do better to rebrand the entire organization the Grand Third Wheel, because the party has no platform, no purpose and certainly no direction.”

    https://virginiafreemen.com/2017/08/01/identity-crisis/

    My thoughts exactly. The RINOs in the GOP are twisting in the breeze. Makes one wonder how they will do when the hurricane comes.

  57. MrAtoz says:

    lol!
    Researcher’s linking of 59,000 suicides in India to climate change ‘particularly worrisome’ under Trump

    The Washington Post’s coverage of a study linking climate change and suicide managed to hold off for three paragraphs before bringing up President Trump’s withdrawal from the Paris climate accord, making the study’s findings “particularly worrisome” — if you buy into them, that is.

    The Lefty Fukstiks will blame anything on President tRump over the Paris Accords.

    HT Twitchy

  58. lynn says:

    “More than a third of US adults prescribed opioids in 2015”
    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/more-third-us-adults-prescribed-opioids-2015-102126736.html

    “Researchers found that more than one third of U.S. adults were prescribed the medications in 2015 and many also misused the drugs.”

    Wow. Wow. Wow.

    If the SHTF, we are going to have a bunch of people running around looking to get their next high. And also looking for colon relaxation drugs. Looks like time to stock up some Philips Stool Softener for the apocalypse.

    Hat tip to:
    http://drudgereport.com/

  59. Greg Norton says:

    CowboySlim, who has a can of R12 in his garage and can’t dispose of it without violating hazardous waste disposal laws.

    Someone will buy it. Freon is useful for cleaning circuit boards. We used to keep a fountain of it flowing 24/7 when I worked for Jabil back in the early 90s. The moment the Clintstones took office, the fountain went away.

    The stuff is pretty rough on your hands. I kept a bottle of Neutrogena in my desk to deal with the dry skin.

  60. Greg Norton says:

    “More than a third of US adults prescribed opioids in 2015”

    Wow. Wow. Wow.

    Texas has something akin to a shadow DEA to monitor doctors’ proscribing habits. My wife has a TX # as well as a Federal #.

    The most popular drug to abuse here is Adderall, however. Some days we wonder if everyone in Texas is on ADD meds except for us.

  61. Nick Flandrey says:

    I’m one of those prescribed. They get prescribed because they are dam n good painkillers, and there is nothing noble about suffering pain.

    Post op pain mgmt helps with healing.

    Also, they are dam n good at cough suppression and cheap.

    They get prescribed DESPITE the attention they draw to patient and doctor because they work.

    The quoted statistic is designed to mislead by conflating unneeded and abusive scrip s with medically legit scrips.

    Like most of the nonsense out of DC, there is a simultaneous war on legit use while massive abuse is enabled by others. And those in pain suffer.

    N

  62. Nick Flandrey says:

    Selling the r12 without a license, even to someone licensed to use it is a federal crime and they run stings all the time. I had a he’ll of a time getting rid of a20#can, you know, in theory. Never having owned or actually disposed of a planet raping tool of oppression like that…

    N

  63. lynn says:

    I’m one of those prescribed. They get prescribed because they are dam n good painkillers, and there is nothing noble about suffering pain.

    Post op pain mgmt helps with healing.

    Yup, when I had my heart “incident” in 2009, they pushed two massive morphine shots into my IV line. The shot barrels must have been at least an inch in diameter. The first took the pain edge off, the second one stopped my coronary artery spasms. And they gave me aspirin and Nitroglycerin to start which did not help at all. TMI, I did not have a bowel movement for four days. And, your EKG looks really weird when the atrial line totally collapses to nothing.

    My dad had open heart surgery in 1999 to replace his mitral ? valve. He refused morphine at first when he got moved out of ICU. I had to talk him into the morphine when he started shaking from the pain. He stopped shaking in less than a minute after he got the shot.

  64. OFD says:

    “Like most of the nonsense out of DC, there is a simultaneous war on legit use while massive abuse is enabled by others. And those in pain suffer.”

    There it is. All too typical.

    Speaking of which; besides the difficult and next-to-impossible method of wheedling months of pain meds in advance from your docs, how are we to manage pain during a SHTF scenario that might last for weeks, months, years, decades? Grow poppies?

  65. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] Lynn, who has 20+ four long fluorescent bulbs in the workroom behind the printer table and can’t dispose of them without violating hazardous waste disposal laws. [snip]

    The public dump here has hazmat disposal days ~ once / quarter. They’ll take just about everything (short, I suppose, of dimethylmercury, et cetera). When my sister had her diner, I’d store all the 4′ dual pin fluorescents over a year, bale them together with twine, and tell the folks at the dump that everyone at my church saved them to be disposed of properly, and I volunteered to do the driving. Never a question, and I presume that they do actually do the right thing with them.

    And pcb_duffer has taken very large quantities of opiates over the years, and has the scars to explain. Bless whomever first distilled opium, and the chemists who took it from there. Pain sucks, plain and simple.

  66. H. Combs says:

    Re: Jerry Pournell
    I met him several times at Comdex in Vegas over the years. I found him to be abrasively self confident to the point of dismissing alternate perspectives out of hand. I love his writing, fiction and otherwise, but he often infuriated me in person. He did save a friends eyesight one day when she was trying an early version head mounted display at a Comdex, one of the tiny CRTs exploded putting glass into her eye. Jerry was nearby and sprang into action getting her safely to treatment. I will always appreciate his quick response.

    My favourite author to spend the evening with was Terry Pratchett. We had a blast at the world Con in Orlando many years ago.

  67. Spook says:

    +1
    There are plenty of household hazardous waste collection days (though a lot of household waste that would otherwise be hazardous can legally be tossed in a legal landfill). It’s probably actually easier to do it properly than to do something that does nobody any good.

  68. H. Combs says:

    My only experience with morphine was when I fell off a cliff on the Marin headlands one evening a couple of years ago, and shattered my humorous. I was trying to get the perfect shot of the GG bridge and was looking through the viewfinder not watching my feet. The friendly folks at Marin General put some morphine in my IV and suddenly I was in love with the nurses and life was wonderful. I see why it’s so popular.

  69. Nightraker says:

    I note without other comment that apartment thru the wall A/C units have an operating life of about a decade. In a decent sized building some few are going to be replaced every summer. The vendor of the new units won’t take ’em, so they get buried in the complex’s dumpster, or did when I worked for management a decade and more ago. A hint of Freon infused landfill doesn’t seem like much of a risk to me, but whaddaIknow?

    When caretaking a contemporary of mine a year-ish ago, on home hospice care, there was periodic angst regarding the oxy refill for my well habituated friend. Part of that, though, was because she had a morphine pump mainlining into her arm, too. Named it “Henry” ’cause she said, might as well be friends with the thing.

  70. medium wave says:

    Look what happened in Zimbabwe.

    And we did the reparations thing already with the country of Liberia.

    Let’s not forget the developing situation in South Africa.

  71. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “Grow poppies?”

    Just make sure to store Papaver somniferum (opium poppies) seed. They’re widely sold in garden stores and on-line, which is odd because technically they’re as illegal to possess as Cannabis sativa seeds. But millions of people plant them in their yards and gardens and no one thinks twice. Imagine trying that with marijuana, which incidentally would be another good item to have in your LTS seed storage.

  72. Ray Thompson says:

    I had a he’ll of a time getting rid of a20#can, you know, in theory

    What’s wrong with the Brazos River? If it’s good enough for guns, it’s good enough for Freon.

    I found him to be abrasively self confident to the point of dismissing alternate perspectives out of hand

    I also met Jerry at a Comdex event. I disagreed with him on something (DOS related) and he almost took my head off. He is intelligent but with that intelligence alternate views or disagreement were not tolerated. He seems to have mellowed somewhat over the years but still meets some dissension with anger.

  73. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “I also met Jerry at a Comdex event. I disagreed with him on something (DOS related) and he almost took my head off. He is intelligent but with that intelligence alternate views or disagreement were not tolerated. He seems to have mellowed somewhat over the years but still meets some dissension with anger.”

    Jerry is no doubt Asperger’s like many of us. He doesn’t tolerate fools gladly, nor dissenting opinions. We’ve had some running heated discussions on the phone over the years on a broad range of topics, from modern politics to late Republican Roman politics to evolution to prepping.

    But Jerry is intellectually honest, and will admit when someone else has a point. I remember the time I took him to task for his idea for a dystopian novel based on the supposed fact that all of the easily-extracted mineral resources had already been extracted, leaving none available for a primitive industrial culture to extract. I pointed out that that was ridiculous, because all of those extracted resources were actually more easily available now than they had been when they were still in the ground. Megatons or gigatons of iron/steel sitting right there in the forms of bridges, skyscraper skeletons, etc. etc.

    When I said that, there was a long pause, after which Jerry said, “Shit, you’re right. Back to the drawing board.”

  74. DadCooks says:

    I too am a long time opioid user, like more than 20 years. I live with a constant pain level of at best 4.

    I have no cartilage left in my left knee and right ankle. The cartilage throughout my body is slowly being “eaten” by my body. It is an autoimmune disease and will start to “eat” the bones in my body when it runs out of cartilage. For my knee, ankle, and jaw it has already started on the bone.

    I am at least “fortunate” that I can take an occasional “opioid vacation” by taking Tramadol. Unfortunately the Tramadol dose requires twice as much and is only good for a couple of weeks at a time.

    Chronic constant pain is no fun and this “war on opioids” is a joke and is causing more and more problems. The flake regulators and gooberment is now wanting us to believe that opioids are killing a “nine-elevens” worth of people every day. Fake News at it ugliest and fakest.

    I see my doctor every 3-months and have to go in every month for a new prescription for the maximum does and number of pills allowed by WA State. I used to be able to get 3-months at a time. My cost has also gone from $2.00/month to over $30.00/month, the retail price is much more. The paperwork burden on the doctors and pharmacies is ridiculous.

    Let Darwin’s “Laws” take care of the problem and let us honest real people have the drugs we need.

    Final notes: I have seen multiple “pain specialists” and shrinks and been trialed every drug and “remedy” known to medicine, science, herbalist, and witch doctor . I have yet to meet one who has really experienced true long term chronic pain. My Polio exasperates the situation as my mobility is slowly going away. Some doctors (mine included) think as I do that this is actually a long term progression of Polio. People with Polio have only recently been surviving into their senior years and we are finding that there is much more to Polio than originally thought.

    “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEMUsC8ppU0

  75. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Tramadol IS an opioid, although it’s not really subject to abuse. I’ve said for years that it should be OTC.

  76. DadCooks says:

    Yes, I know that Tramadol is an opioid but it is not on the “opioid” list in WA State, which is weird because it is on the Schedule 1 list, but does not get all the extra paperwork and oversight that Hydrocodone and Oxycodone do. Just another indication that the “regulators” and “law-makers” do not know anything about drugs. Even more reason for them to not regulate them.

  77. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Tramadol is federal Schedule IV because it doesn’t get you high and it’s not easily converted to an abusable opioid.

  78. MrAtoz says:

    My Dentist gave me an Oxy scrip for a root canal. I wonder if they just do 800mg Ibu now? The Oxy was for a week, does that cut down on paperwork? Is it the same amount of paper for any amount of Oxy?

  79. DadCooks says:

    Sorry, I’m getting all these schedules confused. There are the Federal Schedules and the WA State Schedules. I continually reverse the two and where things fall in I and V for whatever reason.

    “They” don’t pay me enough to keep all this stuff straight ~~~

  80. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Yeah, doctors and dentists are under ever-increasing pressure to cut down on prescribing even hydrocodone let alone oxycodone. And normally if they do prescribe it, it’s for not many tablets with not much hydrocodone in them and, worse, the hydrocodone is in combination with a large dose of acetaminophen, which I wouldn’t take on a bet.

    If they’re seriously wanting to end the drug problem, all they have to do is make everything OTC. It’s none of the government’s business anyway. I should be able to walk into any drugstore and buy a bottle (or a kilo) of oxycodone, morphine, methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin, marijuana, whatever.

  81. DadCooks says:

    WRT to “opioid” paperwork, 1 pill or more same amount of paperwork.

    Pharmacies keep very low stocks of opioids now. That is why if you are going in for a dental or medical procedure that needs a pain reliever the doctor/dentist will write you a prescription before the procedure. If you wait until after the procedure there is a real good chance you will have at least a 24-hour, and sometimes 48-hour, wait to get your prescription, and that is too late. And no refills, new paper prescription (special paper) every time. No phone in.

  82. SteveF says:

    Banning alcohol required a Constitutional amendment, but banning “drugs” needed just an executive order and then a series of laws. Because they’re different.

    If I could, I’d go back in time and kill all of the Pilgrims and then all of the other religiously-motivated bigots and busybodies who came to the American colonies because they’d been driven away from where decent people lived. Sorry, OFD, I’d be turning you into a never-born, but I think we all agree that’s a price we’re willing for you to pay.

  83. MrAtoz says:

    Sorry, OFD, I’d be turning you into a never-born

    Take your stinking paws off my hero, you damn dirty atheist!

  84. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “you damn dirty atheist!”

    Hey! I’m not dirty, and I bet SteveF isn’t, either.

  85. SteveF says:

    Little bit grubby. Taking care of a handful of chores this morning, as well as teaching Miss Short Stuff.

    As for “damn”, I don’t acknowledge any religious notion of damnation. After all, hell is other people, and … and …

    Dammit!

  86. lynn says:

    I had a he’ll of a time getting rid of a20#can, you know, in theory

    What’s wrong with the Brazos River? If it’s good enough for guns, it’s good enough for Freon.

    The Brazos River is only six inches deep at the moment. The only water running down it is processed pee water. We are supposed to get 2 to 5 inches of rain over the next few days from the cool front last weekend, maybe that will bring it up.

  87. lynn says:

    Final notes: I have seen multiple “pain specialists” and shrinks and been trialed every drug and “remedy” known to medicine, science, herbalist, and witch doctor . I have yet to meet one who has really experienced true long term chronic pain. My Polio exasperates the situation as my mobility is slowly going away. Some doctors (mine included) think as I do that this is actually a long term progression of Polio. People with Polio have only recently been surviving into their senior years and we are finding that there is much more to Polio than originally thought.

    Dude, sorry to hear that about the chronic pain. My daughter lives with chronic pain due to the Lyme lesions in her brain causing it to swell constantly. She categorizes her pain at 3 to 9. When it gets really bad, she takes Tramadol.

    A friend of my Dads, and one of his business partners, contracted Polio in his 30s if I remember correctly here in Houston. He lived to be at least 70 years old. Maybe 75, I am not sure. I remember him baptizing his son in our swimming pool back in 1974 ???. A group of men from church showed up one day and they carried Lee into our swimming pool. He was able to baptize his son while the men held him up in the pool. It was a very stirring moment. I asked Lee jr about it the other day and he does not remember it though even though he is seven years older than me and that would have made him 20 or 21 at the time.

  88. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I think you should start using the term “Lyme syndrome” to describe your daughter’s condition. The overwhelming consensus of medical opinion is that there’s no such thing as “chronic Lyme disease”, in the sense that Lyme bacteria are no longer present in people who are suffering chronic aftereffects of a Lyme infection.

    No one is saying that your daughter and others similarly affected are faking it, but my strong suspicion is that what she’s experiencing is the effects of the long-term damage inflicted by a short-term acute disease. If that’s true, it’s obviously not just useless but counterproductive to attempt antibiotic treatment, which in fact seems to be the case in general.

    I had a similar experience starting 15 years or so ago with Kim Littlejohn. She suffers from fibromyalgia, which at the time medical authorities did not recognize as actually existing. That’s changed, gradually, but there’s no cure nor even any treatment other than ameliorating symptoms to some extent.

    I know how hard it was for Kim. Most people, including doctors, thought there was nothing wrong with her, or even that she was faking it to get disability. In fact, the Post Office challenged her disability. She actually asked me to write a letter for her stating that I’d know her for a decade, saw her almost every day, and that I’d never seen her do anything that would make me believe she was faking her symptoms. Far from it. On many occasions, I saw Kim (who is dozen years younger than me) so crippled with her symptoms that she wasn’t even able to stand upright.

  89. Dave Hardy says:

    “Let’s not forget the developing situation in South Africa.”

    It is dire and growing worse by the day. You’d think, however, that four million whites would have the wherewithal and gumption to fight back. Maybe not; maybe they’re tired of it and tired of being on the world’s shit-list for so many decades. If I lived there, I would have GTFO a long, long time ago; the writing on the wall is plain enough to see. I’d have stayed if I thought there was a good fight in the offing, however.

    Folks like Mr. DadCooks and Mr. Lynn’s daughter ought to have whatever it takes to relieve their pain, no questions asked, to make their lives more bearable and even normal. I can live with mine but I can also attest that it wears your ass down over time, especially as you get older. What aggravates me, and I’m sure DadCooks and Mr. Lynn’s daughter, is the lack of mobility and control.

    “I’d go back in time and kill all of the Pilgrims and then all of the other religiously-motivated bigots and busybodies who came to the American colonies because they’d been driven away from where decent people lived. Sorry, OFD…”

    If not for those miserable Pilgrim and Puritan busybodies, there would be no USA or FUSA. Period. Miserable bastards that they were, only they evidently had the gumption to cross the north Atlantic at great peril and settle in a hostile wilderness, like it or not. Around the same time, the decent people back in England were setting about the business of taking over the world; this has had mixed results, and they lost the heart for it by the Second World War along with the best men of two generations. Among the mixed results are the evidence before our eyes of those countries which threw off the evil English yoke entirely and returned to their vomit. Then we have the countries which kept the best the English had developed, and I’m looking at you, FUSA, and O Kanaduh, and Oz and NZ.

    Unfortunately, FUSA seems to have also kept the worst stuff, and we are and have been in the business likewise of taking over the world and apparently the solar system, too. We have not yet learned that our way of life does not translate very well in large areas of the globe, nor will it on Mars or the moons of Jupiter.

  90. SteveF says:

    the moons of Jupiter

    We don’t know what it will take to thrive on Jupiter or its moons because Cher refused to fulfill her promise to move there if Trump won.

    I know what you’re thinking: a libtard celebrity not going through with her promises? Well, hang onto your hats because this next one will blow your mind: before Nov 6, Madonna promised blowjobs to anyone who voted for Clinton (or maybe Sanders). Some guy took a cellphone picture of his vote and then contacted Madonna or her people, asking when he could get his blowjob. Madonna’s response was profane.

  91. DadCooks says:

    Thanks @lynn, I wince with pain and overflow with sympathy whenever you talk about your daughters Lyme Disease. It gives me perspective.

    I complained that I had no shoes, then I met a man who had no feet.

    I first got polio at 22-months (1952). No room in the hospitals. My Mom was an RN so she provided my care. Our regular Doctor made weekly house calls for a couple of years. When the Polio Vaccine became available in 1955 I was given it because the doctors thought it might reduce my symptoms. Instead I had a major relapse and ended up with wider problems. Until I was 17 I had weekly physical therapy to keep my muscles stretched and working. It took 2 BIG Physical Therapists to stretch my muscles into proper range of motion. When I stopped growing I was able to do the stretching myself. It took an Act of Congress (literally) for me to join the Nuclear Navy and Submarine Service because of my Polio “disability”. It helped that many years prior I had made friends with Senator Everett M. Dirksen, so he wrote the Congressional Exemption that was required.

    So I have had Polio for nearly 65-years now. It is just how things are, so I deal with it and keep moving until I cannot move anymore.

    The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

    Add;
    @RBT has a point with the word “syndrome”. What I have is technically called “Post Polio Syndrome”. You get the disease and then spend the rest of your life dealing with the effects that continue to emerge, compound, and exasperate.

  92. SteveF says:

    Several hours ago I suggested retroactively killing the Puritans. Several people picked up on that or on OFD’s prospective retroactive disappearance, but no one yelled about my having volunteered OFD to make sacrifices for our (alleged) benefit.

    -sigh- Some days it just doesn’t pay to troll.

  93. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I didn’t realize you were one of those ugly critters that live under bridges.

  94. SteveF says:

    Sympathies to DadCooks and Lynn’s daughter and OFD and whoever. It fills me with something like survivor’s guilt, as I’m sitting here with absolutely nothing wrong with me.

    (Well, I’m stupid and keep making stupid decisions, but that’s not the same thing.)

    I either did or did not have polio when I was little. My mother told me several times that I had a mild case because the vaccine wasn’t as dead as it should have been, but then later told me she never told me that. -shrug- This is the same mother who dropped me repeatedly when I was a baby, so I’m not sure how much was cool-sounding story, how much was alcohol-induced fuzzy memory, and how much really happened.

  95. lynn says:

    Let’s not forget the developing situation in South Africa.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-04/white-south-africans-are-preparing-slaughter-and-removal-all-whites-within-five-year

    That will be a bloodbath. The white South Africans are heavily armed with crew served weapons and light armored vehicles.

  96. SteveF says:

    “Ugly critters” is judgemental and microaggressive — even milliaggressive — and reveals your white cis privilege. And if I want to self-identify as Fabio in a kilt and a tuxedo jacket, then you have to respect that!

  97. lynn says:

    Let Darwin’s “Laws” take care of the problem and let us honest real people have the drugs we need.

    Preach on brother ! It is obvious to me that the War On Drugs ™ has hurt more honest people than helped. It is a cube of the old rule “I am from the government and here to help you”.

  98. SteveF says:

    But the War on (Some) Drugs lines so many pockets! We have to keep it forever! It’s for the chiiiiiildren!

  99. lynn says:

    I think you should start using the term “Lyme syndrome” to describe your daughter’s condition. The overwhelming consensus of medical opinion is that there’s no such thing as “chronic Lyme disease”, in the sense that Lyme bacteria are no longer present in people who are suffering chronic aftereffects of a Lyme infection.

    No one is saying that your daughter and others similarly affected are faking it, but my strong suspicion is that what she’s experiencing is the effects of the long-term damage inflicted by a short-term acute disease. If that’s true, it’s obviously not just useless but counterproductive to attempt antibiotic treatment, which in fact seems to be the case in general.

    On the latest test, which is not approved by the CDC (a bioweapons lab), she has all three markers for Lyme disease at the moment. She never had more than two markers until she started taking colloidal silver recently. The doctor’s theory is that the colloidal silver is causing the Lyme cysts under her skin to burst and flooding her system with fresh bacteria.

    I sure don’t know if she still has Lyme disease. The infectious disease doctor thinks that she does. I do know that we did not treat her for Lyme until she had it for 5 or 7 years as we had no idea she had it. I just want to make her comfortable in life as long as I can.

  100. Dave Hardy says:

    “…no one yelled about my having volunteered OFD to make sacrifices for our (alleged) benefit.”

    Hey, MrAtoz stuck up for me! And incidentally, it’s like It’s A Wonderful Life in that w/o me having been born, a whole bunch of commies would still be alive and creating much mischief in the world. Also, I wouldn’t be around to marry my wife and then spend years shelling out $ to Princess, who is now 25 going on 26 and still in college. Let’s see…what else…no, I think that’s about it. In retrospect, go ahead for that time machine and whack all the Pilgrims.

    Just bear in mind that the Mayflower descendants alone spread out across the continent and now total around 25-35 million. Yes, you read that right. Roughly ten percent of the whole population. A good chunk of us are known as “Old Americans” and we are now Anathema in the country our ancestors settled. We’ll see about that presently.

  101. SteveF says:

    around 25-35 million. Yes, you read that right. Roughly ten percent of the whole population.

    Uh-huh. Which may be paraphrased as “whoop-te-do”.

    Take a look at the fraction of the world’s population has Genghis Khan as an ancestor.

  102. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Let’s not get started on that. I remember having a hell of a time trying to explain why a person can not be genetically related to distant ancestors. Try explaining that to someone who doesn’t understand meiosis.

  103. SteveF says:

    Fair enough objection. How about “people who can trace ancestry back…”?

    Try explaining that to someone who doesn’t understand meiosis.

    I no longer even try to explain things that adults should know. Either they are too lazy to look into something themselves or they don’t want a proper explanation and are simply getting ready to parrot their “reasons” why evolution isn’t true/vaccines are bad/the earth is flat or they’re simply too simple to understand.

    I will work with kids, with as much patience as is in me (ie, not a huge amount) because they probably have had little to no education on a topic. Especially as most kids are either public-schooled or go to religious schools which put a bit of a slant on many aspects of science and history. Or, sad to say, they’re home-schooled by parents with appalling ignorance or bias on some subjects.

  104. H. Combs says:

    I recall a short story from a SciFi rag in the 70s that posited discovery of a chemical / drug that blocked the high from opioids. The idea was what happens when a group snuck the drug into the food supply ending the demand for heroin etc. And the unexpected effects on society.

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