Saturday, 21 January 2017

By on January 21st, 2017 in personal

09:44 – It was 46F (8C) and dampish when I took Colin out this morning. More of the same to come, with rain and possible thunderstorms moving in later today and tomorrow.

I see that Trump has now officially been coronated King, and that protests and demonstrations have ensued. Not riots, you understand, even though those peaceful protesters and demonstrators are burning cars, throwing bricks and paving stones at police and innocent bystanders, and so on. Whatever happened to reading the Riot Act? As Larry Niven says, “Don’t throw shit at an armed man. Don’t stand next to someone who’s throwing shit at an armed man.”

If you need a gun or guns, now is a very good time to buy what you need. Gun makers built up large inventories before the election, expecting a Clinton victory and ensuing panic purchases. None of that materialized, so now the gun makers are selling their excess inventory near cost.

Barbara found a pinto bean recipe she wanted to try, so I just put a pound of pinto beans in to soak overnight. The Walmart Great Value pinto beans, incidentally, are remarkably clean. We didn’t find a single piece of gravel or rotted bean in the whole pound.

I’m pretty much booked solid this weekend doing administrative stuff: ordering items for science kits, doing my sales tax return, creating MSDSs, working on federal and state income taxes, and so on. I won’t get it all done this weekend, but I need to get started on it.


129 Comments and discussion on "Saturday, 21 January 2017"

  1. Carl D Sanders says:

    Your left out the most important part, 1 tablespoon of sugar.

    Try it you’ll like it.

  2. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I think it’s a bit light on seasoning, as well, but Barbara isn’t a big fan of onion or garlic. I’ll mention your suggestion to her. Thanks.

  3. Dave Hardy says:

    From the Rescind the Womens’ Vote Department:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4142950/Thousands-women-head-Washington-protest-Trump.html

    Hey, dig them crazy knit hats! And all the usual celebs, too!

    Guess what, grrls? It’s over. Now get back in the kitchen and make me a sammich!

  4. Greg Norton says:

    Hey, dig them crazy knit hats! And all the usual celebs, too!

    Not sure what Emma Watson is doing at a Trump protest unless she is now a citizen.

    Maybe she is researching for reshoots on “The Circle”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCOXARv6J9k

  5. SteveF says:

    Emma Watson is a deep and serious thinker on important issues. Haven’t you been keeping up?

    She also is reportedly a complete, whirling bitch on the movie set. But that doesn’t matter. Deep thoughts. Good thoughts. Virtue and all that.

  6. Greg Norton says:

    Emma Watson is a deep and serious thinker on important issues. Haven’t you been keeping up?

    Hmm. Okay. Still, having read 2/3 of the book (Dave Eggers is a whiny, nauseating Prog), I can’t help but believe that it has something to do with publicity for “The Circle”.

  7. Dave Hardy says:

    “Deep thoughts.” IIRC, wasn’t that a regular skit on SNL years ago with a Jack Handey?

    We really need more foreign celebs to kinda fill out our own carnival freak show at all these demos. Quite possibly the Brits are far more literate. In fact, I’m just gonna take that for granted. Ditto the Irish.

    If y’all will excuse me now, I gotta run off and get back to knitting a nice big stupid-as-shit-looking pink knit hat for Princess. I’ll embroider a BERNIE 2020! on it, too.

  8. Nick Flandrey says:

    Looking at the pictures, those are some pretty big turnouts.

    No matter how ill-advised or not, those are a lot of women who took the time to travel and march.

    n

  9. SteveF says:

    Nah, “Bernie 2020” makes it at most a one-campaign item. Embroider “Pink Dog Democrat” on it, or “Pink Pussy Democrat” if that won’t get you smothered in your sleep.

  10. SteveF says:

    Looking at the pictures, those are some pretty big turnouts.

    No matter how ill-advised or not, those are a lot of women who took the time to travel and march.

    Who’s footing the bill? I think that might be an important datum.

    Even if they’re all volunteers regarding their time, someone’s paying for the buses. Hardly ever do the members of a bused-in mob chip in for the charter buses in addition to giving up their time.

  11. MrAtoz says:

    Emma Watson, another giant celebuturd. She can barely act, yet we must worship her because Hollyweird says so. Keep giving her major roles, Hollyweird, liberal studio bucks are going down the drain. Also a budding fashionista. Gee, why don’t all these wimminz march for solidarity to women suffering in any and all Mooslim run countries? No, no. Gotta accept the religion of pieces.

  12. Dave Hardy says:

    First place I’d look for the funding is some Soros front or other. All that fuck does is look to stir the shit here and in western Europe. Once he croaks, I recommend driving a stake through his heart and stuffing his gob with garlic cloves.

    And from the Notorious Liberal Rabble-Rouser Department:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/le-pen-headlines-european-counter-summit-germany-040851127.html

  13. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “Once he croaks, I recommend driving a stake through his heart and stuffing his gob with garlic cloves.”

    Why wait until he croaks?

  14. Dave Hardy says:

    Oh my goodness gracious, you have a very good point there, sir! Get it—“good point?”

    Indeed. Why wait? To paraphrase the very late King Henry II; “Who will rid us of this troublesome pest?”

  15. Eugen (Romania) says:

    Again, that will be a waste. Just send him to Romania, instead.

  16. Ray Thompson says:

    Oh my goodness gracious, you have a very good point there, sir! Get it—“good point?”

    Such a sharp wit sir! Get it—”sharp?”

  17. SteveF says:

    A traditional way to stop zombies is to stuff their mouths with salt and sew their lips shut. Soros looks like a zombie now, so there’s no reason not to perform the “finishing” ritual on him. Now.

    By the way, Soros seems like a reasonable bet for the funding of yesterday’s tards, but his involvement should be investigated, not just assumed. Though that would be one of those assumptions that more likely than not is correct.

  18. SteveF says:

    Again, that will be a waste. Just send him to Romania, instead.

    Sure thing. Ballistic re-entry OK?

  19. Greg Norton says:

    Indeed. Why wait? To paraphrase the very late King Henry II; “Who will rid us of this troublesome pest?”

    Isn’t the son picking up the Soros family business? I remember reading somewhere that he was involved in the antics centered around the 2016 election.

  20. SteveF says:

    I’m sure a B-1 can drop two Soroses from 60,000 feet as easily as one.

  21. Dave Hardy says:

    Yeah, last I heard, sonny Soros was in the process of taking over more and more as the elder pos slips these surly bonds of earth, etc., etc.

    Say, doesn’t that guy out in Lost Wages have a fleet of drones? And can’t they be weaponized? Just sayin….

  22. Nick Flandrey says:

    “And can’t they be weaponized? ”

    And thus we find the REAL reason for requiring that all drones be registered.

    n

  23. SteveF says:

    Soros is drone-proof. You know the famous Oliver Cromwell quote “I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken.”? Well, Soros is in the Bowel of Baal, and there’s no GPS or radio signal there.

  24. SteveF says:

    And thus we find the REAL reason for requiring that all drones be registered.

    To quote a wise man*, “Ya think?”

    * Wise ass? Wise guy on a mountain glacial lake?

  25. MrAtoz says:

    The usual celebuturds are all at the Wimmenz March. Millionaires all. I’m sure they can relate with their primo healthcare, etc. The crowds appear mainly WHITEY! Where are all the wimmenz of color? You know, the ones that “need” abortion on demand. They can still get that under tRump, so WTF, over? Don’t make me pay for it. Stop dropping trou for every Vato that comes along.

  26. Eugen (Romania) says:

    500,000 is a big number. That is an impressive protest. I hope Trump would take it really serious and would try to make peace with them (no matter if he was wrong or not!). If he wouldn’t take seriously his own people, he certainly wouldn’t care about the rest of the world.

  27. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Trump doesn’t care about these crybullies, and neither do normal Americans. I’d just as soon they all dropped dead. In fact, as a friend used to say, “I’d shoot them if it wasn’t a crime.”

    I don’t want peace with them. I want them to die, and as painfully as possible.

  28. Eugen (Romania) says:

    Then you have a problem, as they are 50% of people in US (hillary voters). Have you consider moving to another country?

  29. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    That’s not my problem. They’ve pushed us Normals too far. A hundred million dead progressives would be a good start.

  30. Eugen (Romania) says:

    hmm.. there is not enough space for all of them here in romania, and so, I won’t invite them here, this time.

  31. Nick Flandrey says:

    Like any movement, the hard core is a freakshow, and there is a large (perhaps vast) majority who are ‘tagging along’ either thru being manipulated, or just going along with their friends. It is a really big thing though, looking at the pictures. Much bigger than I expected.

    n

    (and mostly misguided and delusional judging by their stated issues)

  32. Nick Flandrey says:

    And in case anyone had any doubt:

    “Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 ‘partners’ of the Women’s March on Washington”

    http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/

    50+ so far….

    n

  33. MrAtoz says:

    Very misguided. They believe Cankles “deserves” to be President just because she is a female. It will be a long and bitter EIGHT years for them. Or more. Maybe they would be happy if President tRump imposed Sharia Law on the US. They seem to have no problem with that. The President has changed nothing nor will as applies to “any” citizen of the US. Congress won’t and can’t either. They can decide where money is spent

  34. lynn says:

    Huh, my wife was not there so it is of no consequence. She was busy making me corn fritters and turkey sausage this morning. With Black Raspberry jam for topping.

    Just finished watching “The Sum of All Fears” again. A very dire warning by a very good visionist. One prays and hopes that it never happens for real.

  35. lynn says:

    Then you have a problem, as they are 50% of people in US (hillary voters). Have you consider moving to another country?

    Hillary got 52% of the popular vote and only 40% of the electoral college vote. Elections matter.

    Hillary’s campaign was a bloated incompetent mess. Much like the candidate.

  36. SteveF says:

    Hillary got 52% of the popular vote

    Only if you discount the mail-in ballots (which went heavily Trump in state where the results were close enough that they were counted) and include the dead and other fraudulent votes (which went heavily Clinton where they were looked into).

    None of which matters. As you say, the electoral college numbers are all that matter.

  37. MrAtoz says:

    We all need to swear to uphold the Constitution like Debra Messing. Remember her from Will And Grace. Yeah, neither do I. She was Twitter-luged with “So, you support the 2nd Amendment, eh.” Whoopsie, a dumfuk Libturdian. lol!

  38. Nick Flandrey says:

    Huh, someone is trying to scam me on Craigslist.

    It’s the old, “I like your item but can’t look at it because I’m out of town” scam. “I’ll send a certified check and my movers can pick it up after the check clears.”

    Nope, cash only chump.

    nick

    (been a couple of years since someone tried that one on me.)

  39. Nick Flandrey says:

    WRT Hillarity and the popular vote. Even though she got {some percentage of the VOTE} remember that most people don’t bother to vote.

    n

  40. Eugen (Romania) says:

    I’ve looked at the newer pictures on The DailyMail. That was a great manifestation. Impressive. I hope nobody take that lightly. Trump has to give a response fast. He doesn’t have to agree with them, but he must show respect to them.

  41. Greg Norton says:

    We all need to swear to uphold the Constitution like Debra Messing. Remember her from Will And Grace.

    “Will and Grace” was picked up for a new season in the Fall. Being a good Prog has paid off for Messing and her friends.

    Also, it’s official. NBC is out of ideas.

  42. Dave Hardy says:

    Report from Vermont Department:

    http://www.wcax.com/story/34314569/thousands-flood-montpelier-for-womens-march

    And:

    http://www.wcax.com/story/34313787/march-in-montpelier-closes-down-three-interstate-exits

    10,000 whiny snowflakes, SJWs, progs, Dems, libtards, libturds, etc., and of course the usual tag-along metrosexuals, hipsters, college baby-sans, trust-fund twerps, and aging hippie losers.

    Cops hadda close three interstate ramps and of course provide security for the mess downtown and near the Snake House. Note the usual insipid and trite Party-line comments from the usual suspects; no shortage of them up here, but that is the Burlap-Montpeculiar Corridor, Washington and Chittenden counties, infested with these idiots. At least as many Normals out in the small towns and countryside but you’d never know it from the MSM, who think we’re all pot-smoking homosexual hippie communists.

    Just dropped the wife off at MIL’s place as she’ll get a cab or Uber car at 05:00 for the flight to Tulsa, OK, where she’ll do this next week’s gig. I am back and toting up my chores for the week here; major kitchen and porch cleanup and try to fix our dryer. Any time left over from those ops will be on outside chit I didn’t get to finish yet.

    But tomorrow is the NFL playoffs and mostly slack time for the old man. In fact, slack time starts right now, come to think of it. Yay for me.

  43. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “he must show respect to them”

    Why? They deserve only contempt. Respect must be earned, and they have earned nothing but contempt. As SteveF said, most of them aren’t intentionally evil, merely stupid, but the effect is the same. And stupidity deserves no respect.

  44. Dave Hardy says:

    “Being a good Prog has paid off for Messing and her friends.”

    And that is precisely how it worked in the old Soviet Union, too; be able to recite the Party line and then actually LIVE it every day, while denouncing backsliders, wreckers, and saboteurs. Then the world becomes your oyster. For a while, until somebody denounces YOU.

    Same deal in the former East Germany; it was estimated that the Stasi had managed to suborn every other East German to varying degrees by the time that whole thing collapsed.

    And the few possible conservatives who work in Hollyweird either keep their mouths shut mostly, or they apologize for their past utterances and thought-crimes, or they let it all hang out and forget about working in anything decent again.

    Anyone who knows more or better, be my guest and chip in, but that’s what it looks like to this observer.

  45. Dave Hardy says:

    WRT to the demonstrators and tRump’s reaction to them? The very LAST thing he should do is kow-tow to these mobs of whiners and useful Soros idiots.

    OFD recommends mounted police with those long polo stick batons, followed by German shepherds and tear gas. After first picking off the obvious inciters and ringleaders.

    Or, even better; make a couple of jokes about them and then ignore them totally.

  46. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Isn’t it North Dakota that’s about to legalize running over “protesters” that attempt to get in the way of your vehicle? Good idea.

  47. DadCooks says:

    To enlighten you fellas that have noticed the special hats worn by most of the participants in the female gender march (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4142950/Thousands-women-head-Washington-protest-Trump.html), they are PUSSYHATs that were specially created for this function https://www.pussyhatproject.com/

    Any man (real or self identified) that considers touching any of these bitches deserves the life of hell he will get. BTW, I am sure many of them have multiple social diseases.

  48. Ray Thompson says:

    OFD recommends mounted police with those long polo stick batons

    What’s wrong with a Komatsu D575A?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komatsu_D575A

  49. Nick Flandrey says:

    They have certainly demonstrated that they can “get out the vote” so to speak. Aim that mob at something real, and you’ve got trouble. The flip side is that if the mob goes hard core, the casuals and only lightly committeds will flee. Esp. if it erupts in some egregious violence.

    n

    What Trump and others must acknowledge is that there are a lot of women out there that are easily led. I say easily, because most of their outrage was for non-issues and a thin tissue of lies and fabulous stories. Worries, fears, concerns, etc. and not things that have actually happened.

  50. Nick Flandrey says:

    You’d need one of those firefighting airplanes to pepper spray a crowd that big.

    n

  51. lynn says:

    I’ve looked at the newer pictures on The DailyMail. That was a great manifestation. Impressive. I hope nobody take that lightly. Trump has to give a response fast. He doesn’t have to agree with them, but he must show respect to them.

    500,000 women out of 165,000,000. Not statistically significant.

  52. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Why waste expensive pepper spray when napalm is so cheap?

  53. Eugen (Romania) says:

    “Why? They deserve only contempt. Respect must be earned, and they have earned nothing but contempt.”

    They have my respect. They stand up for what they believe, in a peaceful way (no violence), without hate (not like on this board anyway) and united.

    They demonstrated they are active citizens, alive, and Trump can use them on his side if he still wants to make America great again. He needs them. You need them. To reconciliate with them, will be the greatest achievement of Trumps presidency (considering how bad things are now).

  54. Eugen (Romania) says:

    “Worries, fears, concerns, etc. and not things that have actually happened.”

    It really doesn’t matter what caused it. It happened. Now, the thing is to make peace with them, comunicate better and openly. Apology if needed. But don’t loose them anymore. They are great and must be praised for the show they did.

  55. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I don’t hate them. I simply don’t care about them at all. There’s no hatred on this board, simply contempt for contemptuous people.

    Read Atlas Shrugged.

  56. DadCooks says:

    Here is a link to our local FUGLY demonstration (hopefully you will not get a popup, you can never tell with our local birdcage liner).

    http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/article128002144.html

    This definately demonstrates that we made a big mistake giving them the vote. This is a mass demonstration of extreme ignorance. These FUGLIES have no idea how free and actually priviledged they are.

    My apologies to the real ladies who read this journal. You know who you are because you know how equal you really are and how much you are respected by the men who love and care for you.

    vive la différence

  57. Ray Thompson says:

    These FUGLIES have no idea how free and actually privileged they are.

    They really need to spend a month or two in one of the sand boxes (with a towel over their head) or a third world country (yeh, may be redundant).

  58. Eugen (Romania) says:

    http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/article128002144.html

    The girl with the banner: “Spread Nutella not hate” 🙂 Smart girl!

  59. Dave Hardy says:

    Why is it that we are always accused of hate? If you express even the slightest disagreement, dissent or opposition to people and programs and innovations and novelties and spurious demonstrations of apparently tireless mobs of whiners and complainers, you must hate them. It’s a routine liberal canard and it won’t fly on this board very long.

    As RBT said, it’s contempt, rather than hate. Big difference.

    Can’t improve much, as usual, on what Mr. DadCooks said above.

  60. MrAtoz says:

    Some useless drone shit I did today with the new Mavic:

    My gob from 50′

    Surveilling a storm drain

    I’m still flying in “Daddy, can I fly the drone” mode. Don’t want to drop a grand into a storm drain.

  61. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    They’ve shown nothing but contempt for us for 50 years. Normals have historically been very slow to take offense, even when offense was clearly intended. But we’ve had enough of these bags of offensiveness and contemptuousness.

    The progs are terrified that they’ve awoken the sleeping giant, which they have. We’re not going to tolerate their abuse any longer. So now they (and, apparently, Eugen) want us to play nice. Tough shit. We’ve had enough of their crap. We control most of the guns, the food, the electric power and petroleum products, etc. Their military and police nearly all come from families of Deplorables, and when push comes to shove they’ll side with the Normals rather than our so-called betters. The so-called elites are usually poorly-educated and not very bright, so they’re probably unaware of what’s happened throughout history to elites who depend upon mercenaries to defend them.

  62. DadCooks says:

    http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/article128002144.html
    The girl with the banner: “Spread Nutella not hate” Smart girl!

    @Eugen – my thoughts too, best sign/banner of the whole bunch. Too bad she is around so many bad examples.

    Edit/Add: Once again I am pleased to thank @OFD for agreeing with me. He and most of the others here are stiff competition as well as fine examples. I feel I am in good company.

  63. Jenny says:

    Nothing to add to the various comments about the marching wymen. Even had them in Alaska, (https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2017/01/21/large-crowd-attends-womens-march-on-anchorage-in-solidarity-with-national-events/) despite a large snowfall and treacherous roads. My sister in Canada and her family participated in this foolishness as well.

    I spent the day more productively. Cleared snow from the (hibernating) fabric greenhouse and played with the dogs.

    For a laugh, my short legged dogs in deep snow. And my ‘gotta exercise more I’m too old for this’ high pitched urgings to go inside.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJBN5_duSo

  64. medium wave says:

    @Eugen: What perhaps you fail to appreciate is that the progs and the Normals are playing by different sets of rules, and that for the progs, the rules are whatever they say they are at the moment.

  65. MrAtoz says:

    I love your dogs Ms Jenny. Fantastic snow fall. Great video.

  66. Nick Flandrey says:

    Yes, the hate accusation. I don’t hate them, I find them ridiculous, pathetic, ignorant (uneducated), truculent, repellent, abhorrent, and lots of other things, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THEM AT ALL. Even then, it’s not them individually, but as a mass. The organizers are probably evil, but without specifics I find it hard to care enough person to person to hate. Hate is a personal emotion, and takes a lot of effort.

    Also the fear accusation comes from the left-

    islamophobia
    homophobia

    I’m not afraid of homosexuals, I’m just tired of the noise and lewdness.
    I don’t fear islam, I recognize the danger to the west from that toxic brew of ideology, and wish to repel it.

    And so on with the phobias and the ‘isms…

    Now, if there was a word ending that meant “to be wary of” instead of “to hate”, you could probably sign me up for a baker’s dozen.

    nick

  67. Nick Flandrey says:

    Dogs in snow, always good for a smile and a chuckle.

    n

  68. DadCooks says:

    @MrAtoz – it looks like you are flying your drone on an old atomic test site 😉
    I don’t think that is really a “storm drain” 😉

    @Jenny – enjoyed your dogs 🙂

  69. Dave Hardy says:

    “Some useless drone shit I did today with the new Mavic…”

    @MrAtoz; are you out in Lost Wages or actually on the friggin’ Moon??? Yikes. That moonscape squicks me out; there are no trees!

    “For a laugh, my short legged dogs in deep snow.”

    Them ain’t dawgs! Them is WABBITS! (just kidding smiley face)

    Can’t add much to what RBT said about dealing with the mobs of willful imbeciles out there; I’ve simply run out of patience. I saw this shit getting going really good back there in grad skool a quarter-century ago and the visceral hatred and contempt for me was palpable in the air back then. I now feel more than free to return the favor.

    “…the progs and the Normals are playing by different sets of rules, and that for the progs, the rules are whatever they say they are at the moment.”

    There it is. Not only that, but they seem to operate on another plane of reality. Their thought processes, if they can be called that, are not our thought processes. They’re mutants.

    And Mr. Nick has the right of it, too; it’s not hate; we can’t seem to generate that emotion for such a woeful bunch of homo sapiens sapiens. It’s that we weary of them and their antics and their behavior and their continuing desire to get and maintain power and coercion over the rest of us that invites anger and contempt and resistance. And we will prevail in the end. Some of them probably know that deep down and it makes them even angrier and hateful of themselves. They’re very adept at projecting their worst behavior and thought and emotions onto other people. And if that doesn’t work at first, they’re also very good at doubling down on it.

    Meanwhile OFD is jealous of the fine depth of beautiful white snow up there in Alaska; we seem to have skipped winta here and gone straight to Mud Season.

  70. paul says:

    Meanwhile OFD is jealous of the fine depth of beautiful white snow up there in Alaska; we seem to have skipped winta here and gone straight to Mud Season.

    Well, not a bad thing. Else you would be raising a pogram against snow after several feet of the stuff.

    Ya know, it does get hot in the summer in Texas. That’s what swimming pools are for. There ain’t all that many snakes around anyway. Well, around here. Houston is sorta swampy, just like Mobile. But inland, lots of nice places to live and no snow and warm for them old bones.

  71. Dave Hardy says:

    Several feet of snow would suit us right down to the ground. Ski resorts! Snowshoeing! X-C skiing! Igloos! Snowball fights!

    What sucks are week after week of twenty-below temps/chill factors and the wind howling nonstop. We’ve had that before, but us homo sapiens sapiens can git used to just about any dang thang.

    Also, Mud Season kinda blows. We always tell the leaf peepers who come up for the fall colors and yak about moving here to check it out during Mud Season and get back to us. But that’s also when they’re boiling the maple sap and ain’t nothin’ like a gallon jug of that straight from the shack for 25 bucks. (It would sell for three to four times that in smaller bottles with cute labels).

    I’ve been to TX several times and so has Mrs. OFD. We love y’all but y’all kin have it.

  72. SteveF says:

    He doesn’t have to agree with them, but he must show respect to them.

    They might be due the basic respect due by default to any human being. I don’t think so, myself, as their words, behavior, and threats have forfeited them that respect, but others may be of a more forgiving nature.

    Beyond the basic respect, though? What are we supposed to respect? Their sincerely held belief that I should pay for their parasitic lifestyle while I have to shut up to protect their tender sensitivities? I’d sooner respect a tapeworm. At least the tapeworm doesn’t express contempt for me, my ancestry, and my work ethic while it’s leeching.

    They have my respect. They stand up for what they believe, in a peaceful way (no violence), without hate (not like on this board anyway) and united.

    As I said, what they believe is that they can demand that I pay for their lifestyle, and they believe that they can tell me what I’m allowed to say.

    They’re allowed to believe whatever they like. They’re allowed to say whatever they like, but they need to be prepared to have me say “Who gives a damn what you want, you retarded, superannuated infant?”*

    Any your “without hate” assertion does not seem to be supported by the ground truth. This could well be because you see only the sanitized pictures and quotes of the protests. It could also be because your nation and culture give you a different threshold for declaring “hate”.

    * I said that to a group of screaming, superannuated infants once. I don’t think any of them understood the insult but they knew they’d been insulted. No, none of them physically assaulted me over it, whether because they had to look like the victims for the cameras or because my body language said I was confident I could beat them all.

    OFD recommends mounted police with those long polo stick batons

    What’s wrong with a Komatsu D575A?

    What’s wrong with a real polo mallet? Yell “tally-ho!” as your ride your horse toward the tards. Two points if you clock one in the head hard enough that he flies ten feet or more. (But only one point if only his head goes flying because the body was left behind. You’re penalized if you cause extra paperwork.)

  73. SteveF says:

    Well, not a bad thing.

    It’s a bad thing for us. Low snowfall means a dry spring. This may not affect Dave much because he’s got that big-ass lake, and maybe that refills the aquifer or whatever feeds his well.

  74. H. Combs says:

    When you scream filthy obscenities at children simply because of the hotel their parents stay in, you are not worthy of any respect. If you want respect and to engage in real dialog you don’t scream hate and filth at the person you want to persuade. Watched the views after the women’s protest was over, trash was everywhere, just like after the “occupy anything” protests. Real women pick up after themselves. And let’s not forget, Trump won 53% of the women’s vote.

  75. Nick Flandrey says:

    @eugen, sorry you got a bit of a dog pile tonight. Please don’t let that dissuade you from sharing and coming back.

    We DON’T want an echo chamber and really do value other viewpoints. We might think the other viewpoint is wrong, or misinformed, but most of the time we can give actual facts or references for why we feel that way, or why we have the beliefs we hold.

    It is eye opening to hear from someone with completely different experiences, and a different set of internal filters and expectations.

    Several times you have made the point that from where you were to where you are is a big improvement as a country and that things we see as negatives (coming toward you from the other direction) might be positives for you. It’s like the tax rate, coming from even higher taxes, 20% looks good to you, but from OUR perspective coming from NO tax or 8% tax, even 20% looks like armed robbery. Some of us are even more radical or libertarian leaning, and dispute the need for taxes at all. You probably recoil from that and ask “how does government do what it must without the tax money” when we ask “WHY is government even attempting to do this with tax money”?

    In other words, keep coming around, and sharing your perspective. It helps me to refine my own thinking when I have to defend or explain it, and that is valuable to me.

    nick

  76. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] You’d need one of those firefighting airplanes to pepper spray a crowd that big.[snip]

    Not pepper spray, but (CH3)2Hg. And you wouldn’t need nearly as much, although cleanup might be a hassle.

  77. MrAtoz says:

    Well, the bushes around the storm drain are natural flora. I just realized, it *does* look like the Moon. I’d like to fly around some of Kneevadah’s nukleer wastelands, but the drone would probably implode 100′ in.

  78. Dave Hardy says:

    I think we’ve pretty much established a common set of beliefs and responses to the ongoing threat, such as it is, somewhat diminished since the “election” and due to more and more Normals finally waking the fuck up and saying “NO MORE!”

    It is also pretty clear to me that the actual ruling junta in this country has also decided to back off a bit for a while, and let us nasty Deplorables and Normals blow off some steam and maybe at the same time escalate the ongoing divisive polarization. If Field Marshal Rodham had gotten the job, things might have blown up sooner, and they’re not quite ready for that yet.

    First up is to tank the economy, which is gonna happen sooner or later anyway. And then find continuing pretexts for ratcheting down with more police and mil-spec repression in areas they feel they need to control. Otherwise their attitude is likely to be “Let’s you and him fight” and watch us all slaughter each other.

    Just because tRump is in the job now is absolutely zero reason to let our guard down or to slack off on prepping in all possible areas for an extremely uncertain future.

    We’ve maybe got a bit of breathing room; in the meantime, watch their hands, as Mr. DadCooks says, keep your eyes and ears open, watch your six at all times and just be ready. This was a minor battle in an ongoing war.

  79. Dave Hardy says:

    From the Department of Hollyweird Reprobates:

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods

    Lotsa boffo laffs to cap off Saturday night.

  80. MrAtoz says:

    Yeah, Woods really lets Hollyweird have it. He won’t work there again, but I think he doesn’t give a shit. Plenty of projects will hire him if he wants to work.

  81. Dave Hardy says:

    He’s certainly burned his bridges, hasn’t he? Hats off!

    And here is Gary North on the “inaugural” speech:

    http://www.garynorth.com/public/16148.cfm

  82. H. Combs says:

    I have lived in the US, UK, China, and New Zealand. I discovered that people everywhere don’t share the same world view or even basic moral code. We are not all alike as most Americans believe. That idiocy has gotten our county into lots of trouble. Tribal Thailanders will happily kill your child if you have accidentally killed one of theirs and call it even. The British accept incredible levels of property crime as normal but will jail you if you try to protect yourself. Spent time in the Soviet Union too, watching the daily hipocracy of communism. Things are not as simple as we have been taught. But I think I am preaching to the chior here.

  83. MrAtoz says:

    tRump’s inaugural spech has liberal MSM commentator heads exploding. Mathews muttering about Hitler. Madcow talking about dark, bitter hate. Sharpless hiding in his closet from the IRS. It…Is…BEAUTIFUL. No I I I me me me. Just you you you. Power to the People, baby! We can only hope the Dumbocrat Party is spiraling down the drain. Please take the MSM, Libturdians, BLM, SJW with you. This week will be interesting. I would triple his SS contingent.

  84. Eugen (Romania) says:

    I think you can easily identity in today’s comments, your statements which I saw as hate speech. They are those that involve death to some people, in atrocious ways. And I observed those kind of comments many times here already.

    And to make it clear, I’m not accusing, I’m noting what I see. I understand that you are not using always rigurous English language here, but in a more of a relaxed and figurative way.

    I, for example, I can’t talk that lightly. And I think, that’s true for many people in this part of the world. In this area, I guess, people and their ancestors, have seen a lot of those similar atrocities, and they think first to the real meaning of that kind of speech, and that’s enough to feel both uncomfortable and alert. You can hardly find that kind of talk even on our most extremist online forums. And not directed to fellow people but to real enemies.

    You say it’s just contempt. I can’t imagine how your hate speech will look like.

  85. Eugen (Romania) says:

    Those women and other protesters felt insulted by a man who now is their president. That is what I see to be the main motivation of the march. It doesn’t matter now if they are entitled or not to feel like that. The President must make peace by at least anknowledging the issue.

  86. PaultheManc says:

    @H.Combs

    I believe you are wrong in your assertion, that UK Law “will jail you if you try to protect yourself”. From observation, no UK jury will convict anyone reasonably defending themselves or their property. If you shoot a burglar running away from your property, yes, UK residents do not regard that as ‘reasonable’. If the criminal is running towards you, your perceive someone or your property to be at risk, and you severely injure or even kill said criminal, then no UK jury will convict you, if you used reasonable force. In fact, you should not even be prosecuted (unfortunately our liberal minded public prosecutors do not always make the right call – but the jury will).

  87. Eugen (Romania) says:

    ” It’s like the tax rate, coming from even higher taxes, 20% looks good to you, but from OUR perspective coming from NO tax or 8% tax, even 20% looks like armed robbery. Some of us are even more radical or libertarian leaning, and dispute the need for taxes at all.”

    We have certain realities here, like the fact that the word private had mostly no meaning just 27 years ago.

    Our State apparatus still employs about 900,000 people from the 20 million population. Education, health, army, police, and many services like that are still mostly run and funded by the State. If you consider that our exports barely match the imports, a tourism of modest magnitude, the significant deficits of the public pension and the social security funds, the population aging, you’ll come up with some explanation for this level of taxes.

    The traditional life style of romanians consisted in living in villages, and ocupying themselves with agriculture. That created a culture of helping each other and sharing as everybody knew each other. That still survived somehow to this day, and so romanians (and the other countries around here) accepts or tolerates those things you are calling “armed robbery”.

    ADDED: Plus that the christian religion, the eastern orthodox, was always part of our culture with significant influence. However, I still wonder how that allowed us to “create” so many thefts and corrupts. We can’t blame all that on communists and imoral neighbors.

  88. Ray Thompson says:

    Those women and other protesters felt insulted by a man who now is their president.

    Trump has done nothing to any of these women. No executive orders, nothing. Yet they are protesting what they think will happen. One big issue is stopping the funding of Planned Parenthood, an organization that does abortions. I don’t care what a female does with their body, I just don’t want to fund their sport fucking and then eliminating the consequences. I don’t want to pay for their lifestyle.

    Most of them are up in arms because they are listening to the likes of Oprah, Madonna and other public figures that are absolutely clueless. Crybabies that want their way or no way.

    It doesn’t matter now if they are entitled or not to feel like that.

    They feel like they are entitled. They want everything at no cost to them. They feel that people that have made successes of themselves through hard work have some obligation to give the results of that effort to others who have done nothing.

    I feel that if you have not earned it you are not entitled to it. If that means you live in a tent in south Houston, so be it. Funding their lifestyle, there wants by stealing from me is not viable and I am tired of it.

    I see people paying for their groceries with a state issued debit card (welfare). Their cart(s) are full of expensive meats, junk food, piles of crap that even I can’t afford. Then they pull out cash money to pay for their cigarettes. Then they load their groceries into a brand new $50K+ pickup truck. They are living better than I am because they feel entitled and have gamed the system to do so.

    People for too long have been voting for people who think it is OK to tax others and then distribute that money to the worthless scum that voted for them. I am tired of supporting others. These losers think that if the money comes from the government the money is free. They are too stupid to realize that money comes from taxes paid for others. Of course these leaches and freeloaders pay no taxes themselves.

    The President must make peace by at least acknowledging the issue.

    The president knows the issues. He will acknowledge the issue by eliminating the free ride by the leaches of society.

    The media and the political circles are angry because someone without the political baggage has been elected. Trump owes no one any political favors and that has the political circle upset. No more patting each other on the back and giving back favors while raping the people that work for a living.

    Trump has shown that the normals, those of us that work, don’t whine if we don’t get our way, realize that to get something you have to work for it, those of us that feel the needs of the US should come first, those of us that feel the US should no longer be sending billions to countries that hate the US, those of us that realize the US should be be sending money to foreign countries when we have vets with real issues, the list goes on.

    It is beyond time that the US is returned to the people and removed from the hands of the elitist politicians.

  89. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    @Ray

    +1000

  90. Greg Norton says:

    From the Department of Hollyweird Reprobates:
     
    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods

    James Woods’ TV show, “Shark”, co-starring Jeri Ryan, was cancelled around the time that Obama clinched the nomination in 2008. I’ve always believed that the network was nervous about providing a paycheck to Ryan in the political environment at the time.

    Google for the fascinating history of Jeri Ryan and Obama. Yes, “Seven of Nine” from “Star Trek”.

  91. nick flandrey says:

    @eugen, the concept of “danegeld” is important for understanding how many of us, normal hard working, decently educated, middle and upper middle class people feel.

    For some time, it has been easier to pay off the various minority (not necessarily ethnicity) groups. We pay a larger group of blacks to keep them from rioting, starting in the late sixties. We pay the egyptians not to start trouble. We tolerated lying thieves in politics because WE didn’t want the job, and we thought it must be necessary.

    We pay and we pay and we pay. Only half of people in the US actually pay any income tax (which funds the state and federal governments. The top 10% of earners pay 50% of all taxes. The top 1 % pays even a higher percentage of the overall take. (and it’s not difficult to be 1%, the total household income is much lower than most people thing, especially in some states like TX, where household income of $450k puts you in the 1%. This is very achievable by a small business man and professional spouse – lawyer, doctor, etc)

    We have begun to realize the folly of paying the danegeld. They want more, more, and more, and hate and despise you for being so weak that you continue to pay. But we are not weak. We feed the world. We supply the majority of the military. We run the manufacturing plants and refineries. We are the skilled workers, the ones who know how to get things in the world DONE. We are vital to keeping everything going (companies are LOADED with deadwood. Nepotism, affirmative action hires, SJW and special snowflakes who do little real work that is critical to the business.)

    We are the vast majority but we are busy doing things, raising our families, working, so we are not often heard. We don’t have time to go to rallies. We don’t have any interest in activism. We MOSTLY JUST WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE TO LIVE OUR LIVES AS WE SEE FIT.

    We have passed a point where we realize that the government will not leave us alone. They insist on putting criminal poor people into our communities. They insist that every deviance be not just tolerated, or accepted but CELEBRATED. The are trying to shape our kids with ideas and beliefs many of us find repugnant and counter to our morality. They want to take what we have EARNED by our efforts, by spending our lives, and GIVE IT to people who have done nothing but exist.

    The price has become too high. And we’re not going to continue paying it.

    nick

  92. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    @Nick

    +1,000 again.

    Which is why I recommended that Eugen read Atlas Shrugged. We’re Atlas, and we’re shrugging. We’ve carried this load far too long already.

  93. H. Combs says:

    PaultheManc: Sadly we lived in Nottingham and East End London for several years. We regularly read in the paper of of people who were indeed jailed for defending their home and themselves. UK law has a “proportional response” rule that baiscly states that if you are attacked you MUST ONLY defend yourself with a proportional response. IE: If an 18 yr old thug breaks in the home of an OAP (Old Age Pensioner = elderly person) armed ONLY with his fists you MUST NOT use any weapon other than your fists to resist. You can’t bring a kitchen knife, cricket bat or other object to your defense. In Nottingham when we moved in, our new neighbors warned us to expect our car to be stolen or vandalized and our home to be robbed, it’s considered normal. At my work, we were burgled every 3 months like clockwork with the thieves taking expensive computer gear. They waited 3 months because that was usually how long it took the insurance to replace the kit. When it came time for the next expected theft, I volunteered to spend a few nights in the office to catch the crooks. Management were literally aghast. “You might get injured” they moaned “Or worse yet, you might injure the thief and then we would be in trouble”. So my crook catching was canceled. In our neighborhood there was an old woman whos home was regularly burgaled also. The thieves would scale her back garden wall and break in through the back door. She got tired of this and simply placed broken bottle glass on the top of the garden wall. Sure enough, the next time the young man tried to scale her wall he was cut badly. At the hospital he filed a complaint against the old woman and she was taken into custody for a week for “causing a public danger” which led to injury. When she returned home from the lockup, her house had been ransacked and trashed. We all pitched in to help her clean up and recover and neighbors helped watch her home but the police warned us we could not take any action ourselves to protect her or capture the criminals. Around that time, Her Majesties Prison Service announced that juvenile offenders in custody were to be given holidays to Euro Disney because one reason they offended, it was thought, was that they were not given holidays as children. I have several other personal stories but all are are the same, you don’t dare injure a criminal at risk of your freedom. And of course the well known case of Tony Martin who shot two repeat burglars inside his home, killing one and wounding the second. Tony was given life in prison for protecting his life and his property. BTW: Having lived all over the world, the ONLY place my wife was ever assaulted was in he UK. She was knocked down and her bag stolen. The police were less than helpful noting “it’s not unusual”. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the UK, but their views on property and protection of it are VERY MUCH at odds with my cowboy upbringing in Oklahoma.

  94. Dave Hardy says:

    The UK lost two generations of their best men, and they lost their empire. I feel that goes a long way toward explaining why they’re in the mess they are today. The same thing happened to other European countries and yes, they’re in a terrible mess, too, but the UK’s case stands out as the island nation they’ve been for a thousand years, and what used to be their “special relationship” with us, being as how this was, and still is, largely, a British Protestant country.

    I’ll try once more with the difference between contempt and hate. Contempt is what we feel for the FSA and the rest of the “entitled” classes who expect us to pay for their comfort and security forever and then be spit on and vilified for doing so.

    Hate: what we feel for what has happened to this country and its Normals, i.e., us, people who work or try to work for a living and do our best to protect our families and homes and get through each day.

    Not many of us are cognizant of how we’ve fallen so far, but that’s another issue. We need to at least put the brakes on in probably vain hopes of not continuing over the cliff.

  95. Ray Thompson says:

    US should be be sending money to foreign countries when we have vets with real issues, the list goes on

    Should have been:

    US should NOT be sending money to foreign countries when we have vets with real issues

  96. MrAtoz says:

    I just woke up to a rainy Las Vegas. Then I read Mr. Ray’s comment.

    Thank you Mr. Ray, for saying what I feel. Great words.

    +1,000

  97. Eugen (Romania) says:

    I understand what you guys said here, you have written it before. Of course I can’t feel the burden that those issues represents to you.

    WRT the level of work of Americans (the one who works), the impressions coming out from press/internet, is that you work harder there, if we are to compare it with some european countries. You have less holidays, some takes 2 jobs, even 3 maybe, and you are less protected against risks (like loosing your job). So, it’s quite understandable if you feel your hard work is used to pay for the laziness of others.

    If I understood correctly, you have a progressive income tax (maybe not everywhere). If you earn more you pay a higher percentage tax than others (like 15% instead of 10%). For me, that’s an outrageous theft. That promotes laziness. We had that system here in the past, promoted by the socialists, where the highest percentage had reached 40% income tax.

    We have now an universal income tax of 16%, with some employees that don’t pay it (some exceptions). But we can easily slide back to progressive income tax, as the same socialist has the power now (the same crooks I mentioned here before).

  98. Dave Hardy says:

    Can we stipulate here that “socialist” and “crook” are almost always synonymous?

  99. nick flandrey says:

    I would prefer no tax but a flat tax like yours seems to be the most fair. Yes, we do pay a higher rate as income goes up, with the highest current rate being 36% or 39%. There are thousands of pages of tax regulations, so it is impossible to get a definitive answer to some questions, and legions of lawyers and clerks are employed as a result. Also the tax collector here works from a presumption of guilt, rather than the presumption of innocence that we are supposed to be guaranteed. Like many things, the changes were gradual but relentless and we are waking up to an environment that bears little relation to what was intended.

    As I said earlier, about half the population pays no income tax at all and of that half, some actually are given money in the form of the “earned income tax credit.” In effect they pay a negative tax rate.

    WRT welfare and laziness, in addition to the plain lazy, there are structural barriers in the current system. It penalizes anyone who is working to get off the dole. Google welfare cliff or welfare gap? for details. The short story is that there is a period where you make more on welfare than working, and until you move thru that zone, your net is LOWER if you try to work your way out of poverty. Also, once you are working many of these long term welfare recipients are suddenly subjected to seizure of their earnings to pay past due child support or other court ordered fines and judgements. That’s a strong disincentive to work.

    Still, when looking at social and economic mobility, the US is a leader. In other words, lots of people fall into poverty, but lots get out of it too.

    nick

  100. Eugen (Romania) says:

    Since Trump has the intentions to shift the things around (no more dangeld), he has to do it without punishing the others, without denigrate them. He has to work hard to convince them, to attract them on his side on these changes. That what I meant with making peace. Include them, don’t exclude them. That will be his highest achievement in my opinion (if it will happen). Nothing can compare with that.

    He has to work continously to get support from everybody, that will make him a strong president, and much easier to be welcomed in Europe for example. Otherwise, how can you do business with him if half the country denies him? That won’t be a good service to all Americans, and Trump must do his best to avoid that. Implementing measures step by step is a wise way in this process. Let the people accomodate with the changes.

  101. Eugen (Romania) says:

    “Can we stipulate here that “socialist” and “crook” are almost always synonymous?”

    In Romania sure. We had a socialist prim-minister in jail, the next socialist prim-minister plagiated 1/3 of his PhD. The next one couldn’t become prim-minister because he was convicted before the term, and a law forbid that. We are talking about Dragnea, the leader of Social Democrat Party (PSD), who had to put a puppet as prim-minister. All of them were leaders of PSD. You can imagine the gang they created inside that party.

    In France no. I don’t think socialist there can be synonymous to crook.

  102. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    As I keep saying, Trump doesn’t HAVE to do ANYTHING. He doesn’t care what the progressives think of him or his actions or words.

    You’re big on “fair”, but Trump doesn’t have to be fair, whatever that means. He doesn’t need or want the approval of the progressives. He also doesn’t need the EU’s approval. He’ll do what he wants, let the chips fall where they may, and I say good for him. If he pisses off Europe, so much the better. The US has been giving Europe a free ride since WWII. It’s time Europe paid its own way.

  103. SteveF says:

    Can we stipulate here that “socialist” and “crook” are almost always synonymous?

    No, it’s a set theory thing. All socialists are crooks, but not all crooks are socialists.

  104. SteveF says:

    fair, whatever that means

    Normally “it’s not fair!” means “I didn’t get what I want!”

    And fuck “fair”. Fuck “denigrating”. Trump’s been saying the free ride is over, whether that free ride means the US paying other nations’ bills or US law enforcement giving certain classes of criminals a free pass on their criminal activities. That’s not denigration, and fuck anyone whose delicate widdle feewings are hurt by being told they’ll have to grow up, support themselves, and face the consequences of their actions.

  105. Eugen (Romania) says:

    There are roads that avoids unnecessary tensions. Why not take them?

    I think Europe learnt them, and don’t appreciate people who makes unnecessary waves, who can’t play with others, like Marine le Pen, and others like that.

  106. SteveF says:

    Sure. The majority of Europe, and in particular the ruling class of each nation, are benefiting from the current situation. Of course they don’t want to make waves. That would harm their bank accounts or their own privileges. Who cares if the system is running at a deficit or relies on outsiders pumping money in or continually builds tensions which will eventually cause a revolution? They’re doing well now, and the future can be put off indefinitely.

  107. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “There are roads that avoids unnecessary tensions. Why not take them?”

    Because that’s exactly what our enemies want us to do. They’ve been taking advantage of our good nature for more than 50 years. Nothing is ever enough. We’ve collectively finally had enough of this shit. Let them squeal, like the little piggies they are. Fuck ’em.

  108. Dave Hardy says:

    And anyway, Marine Le Pen is my girlfriend.

    When she’s too busy, I’m with her niece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Mar%C3%A9chal-Le_Pen

    The sooner individual European nations dump the EU and the rumpswab commie bureaucrats in Brussels, the better off they’ll be. If it can’t be done in an orderly and peaceful fashion, it will be done the hard way, primarily in resistance to the incoming waves of musloid scum invaders.

    So far I support the current National Administrator but he’s only been
    on the job this weekend.

    And the swarms of womyn demonstrators making a lot of vulgar and foul-mouthed noise out there, presumably and partially in response to comments tRump made a dozen years ago on a video set with some other idiot, can all go piss up a rope. No one cares what they say or think and the ringleaders are mostly commies, per usual, and millionaire Hollyweird celebs.

  109. lynn says:

    If I understood correctly, you have a progressive income tax (maybe not everywhere). If you earn more you pay a higher percentage tax than others (like 15% instead of 10%).

    Try 44% on for size. The government is a bunch of armed thieves.

    And my wife’s income of $40K/year is taxed at my incremental rate.

    BTW, my incremental tax rate is not 44%, it is 28%. But I am working to get myself into more income and I will be in that 44% tax rate if everything works.

    And don’t even get me started on the property taxes of 3% of my homes purported value EACH YEAR. $10K for my house alone, each year !

  110. Dave Hardy says:

    I know this simple fact:

    Since I’ve been married up here, whenever both of us are working, my entire annual pay goes for Federal, state, SS and property taxes. Totally.

    And since I haven’t been working, we have fallen so far behind it’s not even funny. The Feds and state claim we owe them the equivalent of one year of my wife’s annual pay. And the Feds will come after any alleged tax liabilities DECADES later, too. The state simply turns them over to collection agencies. Any mistakes made by them have to be proved by us, and any losses as a result of their mistakes are just tough shit. If they think or allege that we’re avoiding paying taxes deliberately, they’ll seize all our chit and throw us in prison. And they’ve threatened to do that more than once.

    That is all.

  111. Miles_Teg says:

    DH, your taste in wimminz is improving…

  112. Dave Hardy says:

    How could it not, with a connoisseur such as yourself to guide me?

  113. Dave Hardy says:

    Dunno if I posted this link before but it bears repeating anyway, as it is sort of a background for Bracken’s latest and his linked video at WRS and the Toob.

    https://virginiafreemen.com/2017/01/06/alt-left-the-statists-patriot-movement/

    A minority of these jokers are deadly serious and will be working on ways to create the chaos they seek; don’t forget how many Bolsheviks it took to carry off the Russian Revolution and kick out the Menshiviks. Just a few guys with some guns and the abrupt willingness to use them. Gerry Adams over in Ireland was prepared to go the same way and made no bones about it.

    Remember also that if someone is willing to die themselves, they can pretty much take out anybody else these days. I hope tRump’s security and the SS are up to the task.

  114. Eugen (Romania) says:

    “And don’t even get me started on the property taxes of 3% of my homes purported value EACH YEAR. $10K for my house alone, each year !”

    Wow! That’s a huge tax! Our is like 0.1% (actually it is a fixed amount depending on the location and size; it’s not a percentage)

  115. Dave Hardy says:

    Not to worry; our tax money goes for such worthy causes as bombing Belgrade and pill factories in Sudan, putting boots on the ground in Poland and Norway, and playing footsie with the Russians in Ukraine and the Chicoms in the South China Sea.

    It’s called Keeping the World Safe for Democracy.

  116. PaultheManc says:

    @ H.Combs

    I am saddened to hear of your experiences in the UK. But I must correct your understanding of our legal system. As I stated, I have not seen an instance where a UK jury has convicted a person for reasonably defending themselves or their property (it is well known that it is not a good idea to place glass on the top of walls as a defensive strategy). You can use whatever a jury would regard as being reasonable for the circumstances of your defence. If you are an OAP against a youth, probably most anything would be regarded as reasonable, including a gun (assuming you had legal rights of ownership). Tony Martin shot the thiefs in the back, whilst they ran away – quite reasonably under English law, this was not regarded as legal. I speak personally as someone who has personally made two citizen’s arrest which involved physical restraint of the accused – no action was taken against me.

    As I say, I am sorry about your experience in the UK, and not one perhaps you would accept in Oklahoma, but I believe your portrayal of our legal system is not correct. I have a lot of faith in our juries to apply common sense.

  117. Ray Thompson says:

    Any mistakes made by them have to be proved by us

    And when confronted with their mistake they never acknowledge such mistake. And any mistake in their favor is never caught by their computer systems but any mistake against the IRS is always caught. Generally three or four years later so they can slap on interest and penalties. Catch their mistake three years later and you might get the refund in a year or two with no interest or penalties.

    they’ll seize all our chit and throw us in prison

    Then expect you to defend yourself from prison and pay the debt from prison even though you are no longer earning money. Going to prison for tax issues is just punishment, the tax debt will remain. When you get out you will be hit with the money you still owe, with penalties and interest for the time you were in prison.

  118. Dave Hardy says:

    You got it, Mr. Ray. The deck is just a little stacked against us. If we have any trouble with them this season, I’m going up quite a few levels and begging/demanding interdiction.

  119. lynn says:

    Since I’ve been married up here, whenever both of us are working, my entire annual pay goes for Federal, state, SS and property taxes. Totally.

    110% of my wife’s gross income goes to pay just our federal income taxes. But we do own a commercial property that we bought with 40% cash (we remortgaged our home to get a lot of the cash). That commercial property now has a lot of income for us.

    The Feds and state claim we owe them the equivalent of one year of my wife’s annual pay.

    Dude, at your ages this sounds unpayable. Who calculates your annual income tax filing ? You have mentioned before that they converted your wife from an employee to an independent contractor several years ago. Sounds like your tax burden went way up at that point.

  120. nick flandrey says:

    @eugen, I understand what you are saying. It is very common under other parlimentary systems that single issue parties must then build coalitions with other parties. Perhaps this has shaped your thinking and expectations.

    Under our adversarial two party system (nominally if not actually) when you win with superior numbers, you can do whatever you want. The Democrats did this when they passed Obamacare. They rammed it thru without reading it or understanding it, and without a single Republican yes vote.

    What this election has demonstrated quite clearly is that we IN FACT have only one political party– the entrenched politicians, who are very good at co-opting any newcomers. Throughout obola’s “rein” the republican leadership gave in and gave him everything he wanted, in flagrant opposition to the stated wishes of party MEMBERS.

    Trump (who is in fact a democrat in thought, word and association) wasn’t elected to build coalitions with the other side. He was elected to make changes WITHOUT toadying to the other side. He was elected to NOT engage in “politics as usual.” He was elected to speak plainly, end political correctness, and ‘drain the swamp’ of normal DC politics.

    In practice, his entire life of work and previous history suggests that he makes an outrageous statement or offer to set his opponent up. Then, he gets concessions and reduces the demand to something much more reasonable before the deal is done. I expect the same pattern now that he is President.

    The left has become so detached from reality that they will NEVER accept compromise of any kind. They hate him for the things he hasn’t even done, and for things that pale in comparison to what their own heroes did. He won’t convert them, and gains little by trying, while he stands to lose support from HIS base.

    I’m afraid that, instead of seeing his moderated positions and acknowledging that he isn’t so bad after all, they will just invent more evils to blame him with. They are motivated by envy, jealousy, spite and hate, all the things they accuse their opponents of.

    He will over time, find common ground with those who are able to accept that. That is his history. But he will not, and should not, attempt to compromise with a bunch of bullies who can’t even articulate their grievances.

    nick

  121. OFD says:

    And there it is.

  122. paul says:

    One “party” pretends to be conservative, the other “party” is whatever, about feelings and welfare. And both “sides” do the same…. bombing people and blowing their shit up.

    They all run for election saying they are going to do this or that and then don’t. Sure, one side cuts taxes… supposedly. My taxes have never gone down. As for the other side, aw, screw them. Buy ‘health insurance” or have my income tax refund confiscated as a penalty? I usually get about $130 back a year. On purpose. I can pay almost $300 a month with an $8000 deductible. That’s just dumb.

    Both “sides” of liars can go to hell. Or Guantanamo since they seem to like the place so much.

    Why do we still have a prison in Cuba? Someone was saying eight years ago he was going to close it. That’s why I voted for him. And yet… it’s still there. Does that mean prisons in the US are not secure? Reopen Alcatraz if you need an island prison.

    Hillary? Why the hell would I want Bill back in the White House? After getting blow jobs (and probably more I’m sure) in the Oval Office, getting caught, and she didn’t divorce him? Or at the very least Bobbit him? I think she has no self respect. Why would I vote for such a person?

    Trump has quite the job ahead of him.

    Trump is a huge “fuck you” from the people to the government.

    But I’m preaching to the choir here. 🙂

  123. paul says:

    And someone, anyone… the next time I say I’m going to take the waterbed apart and move it, tell me NO! NOT WITHOUT HELP.

    Cal-king size.

    Ok, it has a memory foam mattress now. The dang headboard is way heavy. Solid oak. 3/4 and inch thick oak. The sides are oak and dense particle board. Each side piece must weigh almost 40 pounds. The base with drawers is the easiest part to move.

    But I got it moved. Penny is sort of weirded out but she has found her bed. Missy has yet to explore… she has a sofa in the living room thank you very much. 🙂

    I moved the bed three years ago. By myself. Not a big deal. This time, I think if I fart wrong my back will go wonky in a heartbeat.

    Interesting at least to notice getting older. Don’t have to like it, but.

  124. Dave Hardy says:

    Let me hand you a ticket to the clue train, sir; you will find more interesting things to notice as tempus fugit, for sure.

    I’ve also moved stuff (not recently, lol) in the past that should have waited until there were at least two of us to do it; wow, what a big strong man! LOL, not. Used to be, in the Dark Ages.

  125. nick flandrey says:

    I could not believe how heavy my temperpedic mattress was. I had it delivered right to the bed, but had to later move it due to painting and construction in the bedroom. Holy crap that thing weighs a ton.

    I used to move my waterbed frequently. The frame wasn’t that heavy but the waveless mattress sure was. You could never get all the water out, and water weighs…

    n

  126. lynn says:

    Why do we still have a prison in Cuba? Someone was saying eight years ago he was going to close it. That’s why I voted for him. And yet… it’s still there.

    Can you point me out one Democrat in national office who does not constantly lie ?

    However, the Republicans are not much better. OFD has it correctly, they are the two halves of the war party.

  127. lynn says:

    I moved the bed three years ago. By myself. Not a big deal. This time, I think if I fart wrong my back will go wonky in a heartbeat.

    Interesting at least to notice getting older. Don’t have to like it, but.

    The wife asked me to bring in more water bottles from the garage Saturday afternoon. I went to go do it an hour later and found that she had already done it. Guess who’s neck is out this morning ? And these are the 24 bottle cases.

    She just cannot lift anything of consequence anymore. And continually ignores that. She got rearended in her Subaru by an idiot in a Cadillac when she was 21 (1979) while sitting on Main street. He was doing 50 mph and never hit the brakes according to the cops. Her neck was severely injured then and it has been deteriorating as she is approaching 60.

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