Tuesday, 25 October 2016

By on October 25th, 2016 in personal, prepping, science kits

09:45 – With regard to non-prescription antibiotics, as of January 1, 2017 the FDA is transitioning many standard livestock antibiotics from OTC status to what amounts to prescription status. If you want to get some antibiotics, you might want to do it right now. See The End of OTC Veterinary Antibiotics and this PDF link.

We include small amounts of several livestock antibiotics in our biology kits, including penicillin G potassium, oxytetracycline, and sulfadimethoxine, all of which will be restricted as of the first of January. I plan to stock up on those before the deadline. I’m not sure what effect these new regulations will have, if any, on “fish antibiotics” like those sold by aquabiotics.net, but it’s probably safer to assume the worst.

If you need guns, ammunition, or high-capacity magazines, now would also be a good time to get them. As in past panics, if Clinton is elected you can expect extreme shortages and prices that may double or triple overnight.

Barbara is volunteering at the library this evening for the Quiz Bowl. We’ll have an early dinner, and then it’ll be wild women and parties for Colin and me until Barbara returns later this evening.


88 Comments and discussion on "Tuesday, 25 October 2016"

  1. Dave Hardy says:

    The vote/election fraud will be MASSIVE this time; apparently 1.5 million dead Murkans are still live on voting rolls, for starters, and isn’t it interesting that whenever various mishaps take place, or machines go down, or whatever, it’s always in favor of the Dems. Who of course evidently control the whole process nationwide, with foreign nationals like Soros and various hacker groups backing them.

    And we’ll undoubtedly have millions of illegals voting somehow, too. Plus the EC. Chip shot for the HILLARY! team.

    Like RBT says, if you haven’t done it already, now would be a real good time to get at least minimal firearms defense capability for your person and your home and family, and otherwise beef up your ammo stocks.

  2. MrAtoz says:

    Always check your final ballot before you press “Cast”. I don’t know if all the machines are the same, but here you can print a paper copy of your ballot and look at it before it gets rolled into the back of the machine. Check to make sure tRump is on there and not Cankles.

  3. Dave Hardy says:

    If it has tRump on it, they’ll shit-can it before it gets counted anywhere. We’ll see everything from cutting-edge hacks and data dumps and machine errors to those same couple of beefy, sweaty guys, ties askew, ciggie in one hand, hauling a cardboard file box out the back door.

    This town and village probably has a Repub/conservative majority but the same kinda chit could happen here, too. I’ll be watching closely and have my iPhone handy. The state as a whole will of course go for Field Marshal Rodham: Vagina Vote plus libturds and progs in the cities and college towns.

    I don’t think Mrs. OFD has registered here yet…and Princess won’t bother, so that’s two possible V-votes gone. MIL is heading for Kalifornia for the upcoming month, so that’s another one gone. Over the years, I’ve been the only one that has ever made a serious effort to stay registered and to actually vote up here. Until I stopped, at least for the national elections. So there’s a chance that a lotta womyn nationwide can’t or won’t bother to make the effort, for various reasons. While a lotta evil white menz WILL, because we’re so pissed off and bitterly clinging to our guns and our religion.

    Hey, I can dream, can’t I?

  4. MrAtoz says:

    Hey, maybe those fake Cankles is winning polls will cause fems to not even bother to vote. She’s got it wrapped up before the election amirite? Why miss the soaps and chips to go to a stinky man infested room to vote?

  5. MrAtoz says:

    The other thing I noticed while early voting, there weren’t droves of fems in line. Mostly men and the women there were with men/husbands/relatives. Single fems didn’t stand out.

  6. nick flandrey says:

    Well, the interwebs lost a pioneer of blogging.

    It seems that Steven Den Beste has passed. Almost 4 years from his stroke, he was sharp til the end. If political blogging has ‘grand old men’, he was one. His USS Clueless was a ‘must read’ blog back then. He eventually gave it up when the constant stream of “but have you thought of this” and “you spelled a word wrong!!11!!” comments got to be too much for him, and focused his attention on anime. He occasionally posted about politics there, and sometimes put articles up on some famous sites where he still had logins.

    As I read back thru his last year’s posts, he was posting more on politics than was usual for him, but as usual he was right on about Trump and the establishment.

    If cartoon tits and panty shots don’t offend you, http://chizumatic.mee.nu is where he spent the last several years. Try the sidebar tags for Weird world and rants.

    nick

  7. lynn says:

    “Microsoft May Never Fix the High DPI Issues in Windows 10”
    https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/83964/microsoft-may-never-fix-high-dpi-issues-windows-10

    This is an incredibly complex problem. Some of these people are running 400 dpi whereas most of the old Windows apps are designed for 100 dpi.

    We are partially fixed for it to the point that things just work but are not very pretty.

  8. nick flandrey says:

    And unrelated to anything but I like it :

    “Speaking truth to activists is a hate crime.”

    n

  9. Dave Hardy says:

    Well, here’s something interesting, and I wonder what HE’S smoking:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/real-michael-moore-trumps-election-will-biggest-fck-ever-recorded-human-history-video/

    I hope he’s right, but even if he is, I seriously doubt Trump will manage to actually “upend” the system that’s ruined our lives and put our posterity in jeopardy of poverty and squalor while living under sharia and/or gangsta cannibalism.

    Worth a shot, though. Because we won’t have much of a shot once Field Marshal Rodham and eventually President CAIN take over.

  10. JLP says:

    All my prepping stuff I can justify with other regular life situations. A deep pantry as a hedge against inflation and sudden drop in income. Backup power because occasionally storms knock down the lines. Guns and ammo for sport shooting. First aid supplies because I’m clumsy. Radio equipment because I’m interested in ham as hobby. Propane cooking and heating gear for camping. Everyone understands this, I just happen to have more than most households. Most of my immediate family knows although they don’t know the extent of what I have stored in my basement.

    There’s something different about buying antibiotics. Buying antibiotics is admitting you think there is a very real possibility of more than just a “disruption”, that the whole system from A to Z could collapse. It is the kind of thing that has people move you from “harmless eccentric” to “scary deranged”.

    Well, this harmless eccentric bought antibiotics this morning. I won’t tell anyone, not even my roommate who is OK with my prepping. These items are going to be silently stored away. Just in case.

  11. Greg Norton says:

    We are partially fixed for it to the point that things just work but are not very pretty.

    I saw an interesting Windows/Java application design workaround to that problem recently where most of the program functionality was embedded in a system tray app and the interface consisted of AJAX from an embedded HTTP server to a window/tab opened on the default browser.

    Dunno if that is the future or just a one off. Crucial Storage Executive.

    The downside is that they had to embed an entire JRE so a simple utility to maintain Crucial SSDs ends up weighing in at 175 MB *zipped*.

    I may try it myself after midterms with a less bloat-prone runtime.

  12. Dave says:

    All my prepping stuff I can justify with other regular life situations.

    I hadn’t thought of it that way. Antibiotics are actually over the line for me. I don’t mean over the line of what my wife would freak out about. I personally am still uncomfortable with fish antibiotics.

  13. nick flandrey says:

    “All my prepping stuff I can justify with other regular life situations.”

    I’ve mentioned this a couple times. One of the requirements of my prepping is that it NOT negatively impact my real life(tm).

    It’s a bit more stealthy that way too. Those aren’t survivalist things, it’s just camping equipment. Bushcraft? Just a way to learn about our how our ancestors lived. Hand tools? Collector or hobby woodworker. Forge- hobby metal worker (getting into eyeroll, strange look territory.)

    We get by with “hurricane prep” to cover a lot of ground.

    Medical preps are the one big departure from the ‘under the radar’ approach. It’s pretty hard to armwave the extensive medical chest, esp when it includes stuff like injection supplies, suturing kits, an autoclave, and surgical supplies. Antibiotics fall clearly on that side of the line too. UNLESS you have animals, and then you have a ‘reason’ for all that stuff. So…keep it secret, keep it safe.

    I get weird looks ALL THE TIME just by pulling out my altoids tin ‘boo boo kit’ to fix a scraped knee, or pull a splinter, or cover a blister. I’m amazed that no other parents carry even bandaids on a regular basis.

    nick

    (I am ambivalent conflicted on the AB thing. I want some, feel increasing pressure to stock them, but DO NOT want indian product. Hard to tell from most sites where they are sourcing. As an aside, RBT, if you had a gas or liquid chromatagraph could you do purity and composition testing on fish ABs? ‘cuz they are surprisingly affordable and common in surplus sales.)

  14. Dave Hardy says:

    Those are pretty useful “justifying” lists you sneaky bastids have cooked up; let me cut and paste and edit to my own need here:

    Deep pantry (and piles of it in the cellar that she hasn’t seen yet): hey, winter storms could close the roads and only way to the stores is to hump it, hon; you first!

    Backup power: Hon, remember when the power was out for just a few hours one afternoon not long ago? Remember how the wotta preshuh from the faucets dropped about 50%? Yeah, that’s from our well! Nice to have, but we gotta PUMP IT UP. Also: winter storms again. Hate to keep bringing it up. Power lines go DOWN.

    Guns and ammo: See the police log and nooz reports and remember our cars being either vandalized or rummaged through recently? Notice the dirtbags living just up all three roads away from this ville? Check out the latest meth lab and dope and DUI busts in this AO? The burglaries and home invasions? And this is just rural northern Vermont.

    First aid: Because BOTH of us are big galumphing clumsy dolts who cut and stab ourselves and fall down and trip over chit all the time. Also a few nice burns from the stoves. Which, both of us having read a LOT of Tudor-era stuff over the years can all too easily imagine the horrific pain of being burned to death. Plus the recent hit-and-run caper on the interstate up here, where five teenagers went out that way.

    Radio stuff: Gotta keep track of the cops and the dirtbags and the nooz. Plus I’m a geek into electronics…

    Camping gear: Not even a question here; we do canoing, hiking, snowshoeing, etc., when we can.

    The AB stuff? I need to know more and whereabouts to get it and how to apply it, if need be; total noob on that stuff. We have basic trauma and first-aid things here and there is never any problem about that; Mrs. OFD was an admitting nurse at Bellevue, NYC, back when the Dutch were negotiating with the Native Murkans for Manhattan. And I was a soldier and cop, so again, no questions about this, either.

    Gorgeous coral/vermilion sunset yesterday up here; mostly overcast today and quite breezy; got the wood stove cooking away and doing laundry and hauling in firewood and organizing office and living room flotsam and jetsam, about as ambitious as I can manage today.

    Two weeks. Wish I had more stuff put away than we do. Hope to rectify that in the next week or so accordingly.

  15. nick flandrey says:

    Just an anecdote, not really a data point, but —

    I’m seeing some more price deflation on food. “Luxury” food especially. Ham, lamb, smoked salmon are all down from a year ago.

    n

  16. nick flandrey says:

    Scott Adams knows how to turn a phrase:

    “Violence is bad on any day, but on election day, Republicans are far more likely to unholster in an effort to protect their voting rights. Things will get wet fast.”

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party

    n

  17. Dave Hardy says:

    “Ham, lamb, smoked salmon are all down from a year ago.”

    Interesting; Mrs. OFD doesn’t like ham much or salmon and I don’t eat lamb.

    Reminds me, gotta pack the freezers with stuff soon. And get big sacks of root veggies. Plus more flour, cornmeal, oil, and similar.

    “Scott Adams knows how to turn a phrase:”

    Pretty good summary of how it’s been working so fah; but I still don’t grok how he figures Trump wins in a landslide.

  18. Harold says:

    Wife quite happy with keeping AB on hand. Came in rather handy a few weeks ago when one of our “aquatic” friends had an infection. Plan to stock up before EOY and keep extra in the freezer. You never know when your “fishy” friends may need it.

  19. nick flandrey says:

    Regarding the landslide, I think it’s the rally turnout. Trump’s turnout is massive, and always has been. Hilllarity’s turnout is small to non-existent.

    Anyone willing to wait in lines and fight crowds (sometimes literally), will make the effort to vote. That means lots of actual fired up voters, in addition to the ‘stealthy’ voters who would prefer no one knew who they voted for. They won’t be intimidated by long lines at the polls or by NBPanthers in black and boots.

    Hilllaarity’s ‘live in person’ support is negligible. She’s already declared victory so why bother standing in line? (if there is record turnout, which I expect.)

    Countering that is the well established Democratic fraud machine. It got a workout with BHO, and they’ll be using it this time too. THIS time, more people will be watching for it, and the armwaving will have to be a LOT more convincing.

    And what is the core for each? Who is the marginal voter for each? Will H’s college students put down the bong long enough to go vote? Are they even registered in the state where they attend indoctrination camp? Will the illegals REALLY get registered and show up, knowing people will be looking at them? Will the union thugs be able to convince rank and file that ‘just this one more time, and you’ll be better off, promise’ or will they finally say “F you and F this.” Will blacks vote for H because of her skin tone, or will many of them say, “F this, we tried with Barry and look how that came out, leave it for the white people.”

    Vs. T’s supporters. Solid citizens, familiar with doing their civic duty, many convinced this is the last chance, mad as hell and looking for something different.

    I think turnout will be high. I think there is a chance T will win with a huge margin, much bigger than 2% or 4%. If not, I don’t really want to think too hard about the implications for the populous, the process, or the end state of the game. The changes 8 years of BHO have wrought, with the prospect of 4-8 more of the same? F that.

    nick

    And if he does, oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the “unexpected” and “unprecedented” “shocking” result. “How could the polls have been so wrong?” “Well, I guess there is a lot of irrational anger out there.” Yeah, expect to hear a lot of that, “irrational” “anger” ” hatred” “dark direction” “retreat from the world stage” “HUGE blow to social justice” “fearful” “violence” the list goes on….

  20. JLP says:

    The election is a lot like a hurricane; you know it’s coming and when, certain areas you should get away from, damage can vary from nothing to extensive, and the media is doing its best to whip up panic.

    I’m off of work this week ( a use it or lose it vacation policy at work, so I’m using it). A few projects getting done around the house in preparation for the winter and the election. Today I’m writing lists and step wise procedures for certain situations. Better to follow a good list than to try and remember everything under duress.

  21. Clayton W. says:

    Anyone have any thoughts about burns? I looked into stocking a supply of Silvadene cream, but I didn’t see anything I trusted. Any ideas?

  22. Harold says:

    Burns? We just use HelloVera around here. Love to know of a good treatment.

  23. Dave Hardy says:

    On the burns, it depends how bad it is; we’ve been lucky so fah and have managed with immediate cold water/ice bag treatment followed by Ibuprofen. For anything worse than that, you need professional med attention ASAP.

    Mr. nick has a nice summary of the possibilities for 11/8. There are so many variables as to beggar the imagination, though; I still think ANYTHING at all can happen.

    So we’re keeping our heads down and thankfully Mrs. OFD will be off until after T-Day and I’ll hopefully be able to wrap up the outside projects by then, cook up a T-Day din-din for the two of us this year, as it turns out, and then get cracking finally on the attic work space this winter and have it DONE, dammit, by the new year.

    Anyone recommend a decent ELECTRIC space heater that will do a space roughly 20×30?

  24. MrAtoz says:

    I have a Lasko ceramic electric heater. About $50 and will do 300sf. Got it at Bed Bath & Beyond. I think it was recommended on Cool Tools. Has a remote and has worked for four years during “Winter” in LV. lol!

  25. nick flandrey says:

    @claytonW, rather than working, I’m still in my chair so I’ll chime in.

    Silvadene is like a miracle drug. I had extensive friction burns and abraded tissue on my face and it healed without scarring (equiv to 2nd and 3rd). I will say that it is no longer recommended for facial burns due to a possibility of staining. I had 2nd and 3rd degree burns on my nose (gas fire) and also healed with possibly slightly bigger visible pores. My sister had 2nd and 3rd degree burns on her face (again gas backdraft fire) and has NO scarring. I would not hesitate to use silvadene again.

    Burn care is extremely involved. Ether Hogwarts/Med or Aesop has a detailed post that I can’t find at the moment:

    https://griddownmed.com/

    http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com

    I stock the BurnGel products in my kit, but haven’t used them. Be aware that they have a “consumer” product that is just a cream, and the industrial product that is what made them famous.

    nick

    ADDED- bad or extensive burns are not survivable post SHTF. They are a specialist hospital unit here and now, requiring MASSIVE amounts of resources. I’ve worked with and met several people who were badly burned in industrial accidents, to the point of lost digits, and years of reconstructive surgery. Burns are terrifying.

  26. Dave Hardy says:

    Thanks, MrAtoz! I ordered the Lasko 5307, based on some comments I read about the other ones. We’ll see how it works; $34 so not too bad. I just need to keep myself warm while assembling a bunch of stuff for a while and then eventually doing a bunch of work up there on a regular basis. May move up to heavier-duty heaters then.

    Looks like another spectacular sunset is coming up soon; the late afternoon light on the foliage across the street is awesome against a cobalt-blue sky.

  27. lynn says:

    “Social media? Bob needs a social mediaTOR”
    http://www.cringely.com/2016/10/25/social-media-bob-needs-social-mediator/

    “Okay, I’m back, still without cataract surgery but I have the fonts cranked-up on this notebook and my one working eye is still, well, working so I am, too. My next column will be about last week’s Internet DNS failure but right now I want to write about all these folks who have been asking to connect with me on Facebook, LinkedIn, and other social media. I’ll bet you have the same problems that I do.”

    Double yup. I have no idea who all of these people trying to connect with me on LinkedIn are but it is making me very nervous.

  28. MrAtoz says:

    It is in the 70’s during the day in Vegas. That means the chicks are out wearing thigh high boots, furs, sweaters, leg warmers. lol! WTF, biatches?

  29. H. Combs says:

    Not too worried about a DNS attack. I have a file of actual IPs of my most popular sites.

  30. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    You should post that.

  31. ech says:

    Trump’s turnout is massive, and always has been.

    He has a very dedicated base. He has done nothing to reach out to undecided voters. he has no ground game/GOTV in most states And so he will lose without a major revelation from Russia, um, wikileaks.

  32. Dave Hardy says:

    “I have no idea who all of these people trying to connect with me on LinkedIn are but it is making me very nervous.”

    I’m guessing it’s IT recruiters.

    “WTF, biatches?”

    They haven’t started on that up here yet, with temps in the 40s during the day. And there are guys walking around in shorts.

    “And so he will lose without a major revelation from Russia, um, wikileaks.”

    It’s like up here for the Governor’s “race”; the female Dem is ALL OVER the tee-vee constantly with how she saved the state during Irene’s devastation when it was her JOB to cowgirl up and do the right thing then as a member of the administration. And how she will also create jobs and other nifty miracles outta thin air but can’t, like Comrade Bernie, tell us where all that $ is gonna come from. And the Repub candidate? The current Lt. Gov; but try and find him anywhere. Not on the tee-vee. No newspaper ads. Zip. Nada. Typical Stupid Party nonchalance and asleep at the switch behavior. The late Sam Francis had a book title “Beautiful Losers,” and that’s what they’ve been for many decades now, indistinguishable from the Evil Half of the Party.

    The theory is that Trump WANTS to lose, on the basis of “who in their right mind would WANT that job as the country collapses/blows up??”

    That way he can stand outside and jeer at the witch as it all gets blamed on her and he can also blame the voters for not electing HIM when he could have fixed things. While having accelerated the establishment of his “brand” for himself and his kids.

  33. SteveF says:

    You should post that.

    Unless 3/4 of the list is potentially embarrassing. No, I’m not talking about pr0n sites. I’m talking about having HuffPo and Facebook at the top of the list. The shame could not be borne.

    WTF, biatches?

    The past few mornings up here have been warm enough that there isn’t frost on the cars. I wear a polo shirt or T-shirt in the morning as I go to work. And when I get there, I see a bunch of people wearning winter coats with the hoods up. What are they going to do when it gets cold?

  34. MrAtoz says:

    Well, I’m working on quarterly reports and Quickbooks Online won’t epay and file my Nevada and Texas UI. I’ve been doing that for years and is a big plus with QBO/QB. Now I have to call Intuit tomorrow with a big WTF, over? The IRS 941 worked and filed fine. It’s always something with software and cornholeputers!

  35. pcb_duffer says:

    RE: burns. The first link is what we used at my sister’s restaurant for immediate first aid. The second link is what we tried to get the employees to use for aftercare; basically an aloe vera gel w/ lidocaine. The third link is for extreme emergencies. As Nick says, truly serious burns are a killer without modern medical treatments.

    https://www.masune.com/Supply/Product.asp?Leaf_Id=53388M

    https://www.amazon.com/Ocean-Potion-Instant-Relief-Ice-20-5/dp/B001URL34Y/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1477443998&sr=1-1&keywords=ocean+potion

    https://www.masune.com/Supply/Product.asp?Leaf_Id=53450M

  36. MrAtoz says:

    I still hope tRump wins just to stick it to the MSM, Dumbocrats and Redumblicans. Guaranteed bloodshed with Cankles, taxes, spending, looting. Cankles’ speeches are so fucking boring is there any doubt her “win” is in the tank? Die, bitch, die!

  37. Spook says:

    “”You should post that.

    Unless 3/4 of the list is potentially embarrassing. No, I’m not talking about pr0n sites. I’m talking about having HuffPo and Facebook at the top of the list. The shame could not be borne.””

    I tried pinging facebook.com … Got 127.0.0.1 !!

  38. Dave Hardy says:

    “What are they going to do when it gets cold?”

    Wear more layers and cry, I guess. It’s friggin’ ridiculous. What are they gonna do when the Grid is down and their oil or gas or electric heat ain’t workin’ no mo’?

    “It’s always something with software and cornholeputers!”

    I was looking into getting/using QB for wife’s and my biz here but reading the comments on Amazon recently has made me step back; certain years are great and other years suck, etc. I have GnuCash on this machine and should probably learn how to work that, I guess. We’ll need to tie it in to our bank, so I hope that part works OK.

    “Cankles’ speeches are so fucking boring is there any doubt her “win” is in the tank? Die, bitch, die!”

    Just watched yet another short vid of her allegedly answering pet reporters’ questions on a plane somewhere, all paid for by us, of course, and I can’t even stand to look at her or listen to her condescending nasty voice. She bailed when they started in on the O’Keefe vids of the DNC shenanigans and Wikileaks stuff. Not gonna talk about it. Stonewall it. Move on. She needs to be waterboarded for a few days and then hanged as a traitor.

    “Unless 3/4 of the list is potentially embarrassing.”

    I regularly export all my bookmarked sites to a USB stick. Shit, there must be a hundred, at least; but I only go regularly to maybe ten of them.

  39. nick flandrey says:

    @pcb_duffer, yep that’s the stuff, for one and 3 anyway. Never tried 2.

    1 is the burn Jel branded cream, I don’t think there’s anything special there, just mainly leveraging their brand with a pain reliever.

    3 is the stuff that made them famous. That’s what you hit a big burn with.

    Generally I shy away from the analgesic creams/sprays/etc. I always seem to hurt worse afterwards and many of them have alcohol or something else drying as a solvent. NOT what I want on burned skin. For anything up to blistered sunburn level burn, I put on pure aloe vera gel from the health food store. You want pure gel, must be refrigerated, nothing but aloe. Edible. Almost everything in the regular store has aloe on the label but is mostly a chemistry set. Says made with 100% aloe, [and a whole lot of other crap too.] Find the real 100% good stuff.

    Any burn that breaks the skin needs pro help, and probably silvadene or something similar.

    First aid should be getting rid of the heat and stopping the damage. Ice can damage the tissue too, so be careful.

    Never try to remove anything that is stuck to a burn, that is definitely for the pros.

    nick

  40. Dave Hardy says:

    Speaking of stuff burning…

    http://fredoneverything.org/ready-ronald-mcdonald-or-lucretia-borgia-in-the-long-run-we-are-all-dead/

    Thanks, Fred. I kinda figured this is the coming deal, but I guess my main question is how long do we have before we’re a combination of the Congo and the old Soviet Union? I’m guessing ten to fifteen years, depending. A couple of Black Swan events could accelerate this process, of course.

    We’ll have some idea of what the deal is gonna be on 11/9, just two weeks from tonight. And depending on that, we might see a LOT more people wake the fuck up finally.

  41. SteveF says:

    Shit, there must be a hundred, at least; but I only go regularly to maybe ten of them.

    Hoo-doggies, I gots way more than that, spread across multiple browsers on multiple machines. (All used primarily for different purposes, so there’s little if any bookmark overlap.) Most by far are pages that I bookmarked for research for an article or a project, and which I’d be better off collecting into a static page saved elsewhere. On the other hand, that would take time and effort and they’re not hurting anything where they are.

    I regularly export all my bookmarked sites to a USB stick.

    I should but seldom do. On account of, oh, what was it? Oh, right, I’m a dumbass, that was it.

  42. SteveF says:

    We’ll have some idea of what the deal is gonna be on 11/9

    Hahahahaha! You think it’ll be settled by the 9th? Optimist.

  43. nick flandrey says:

    If I was Trump I’d want a physical count for every county where it was even close. I’d want total votes compared to voter rolls, and I sure as Fukc wouldn’t concede anything.

    Pussies give up just because the media say so.

    n

  44. Dave Hardy says:

    “Hahahahaha! You think it’ll be settled by the 9th? Optimist.”

    Not “settled,” just some idea of how things are gonna roll between then and 1/20. Nice post over there, by the way. I don’t think you’re wrong, either.

    “Oh, right, I’m a dumbass, that was it.”

    Ditto here, for not doing regular backups a while back on this machine when it was Winblows, and also for hanging onto Google stuff for so long. And for not dumping Winblows a long time ago.

    “Pussies give up just because the media say so.”

    Uh-oh, you said a bad word. You’ll be called to account for it in twenty years or so. It will ruin your life and career. Also your chances of becoming President in this vast matriarchy here.

    If it’s close enough and Cankles “wins,” I hope Trump ties it up real good with recounts, lawsuits, etc. Let the cities burn again with riots and mayhem. And we’ll see then what the State’s “law enforcement” response is. If he “wins,” there will be mayhem anyway.

    So: avoid cities. avoid crowds. avoid “events.”

  45. Dave says:

    I regularly export all my bookmarked sites to a USB stick.

    I keep misplacing USB sticks. The last USB stick I bought from Walgreens is plugged into one of the PCs at my doctor’s office. At least it was when last I connected to that PC.

  46. SteveF says:

    I keep misplacing USB sticks.

    Get the kind that you can attach a string to. Put a 3-foot piece of orange yarn on it, or something else that you can drape across the desk so it’s obvious the stick is there.

    Another option is to put your name on the outside of the stick, whether on an inventory tag attached to the loop or on a piece of masking tape wrapped around the stick. You won’t want that for general carrying-around, in case you lose it, but it would be good for specific purposes like going to your doctor’s office.

  47. pcb_duffer says:

    Nick, the Ocean Potion burn salve is the best stuff I’ve found for sunburns, an all too common malady here at the water’s edge (a/k/a Tourist Rash). It worked pretty good for the restaurant workers, when they would remember to use it. We kept a bottle at the restaurant, but exactly one of the employees had enough sense to keep some at home, too. I also found it helpful a few years back when I got shingles.

  48. nick flandrey says:

    Why we prep:

    This is why you do drills:

    Washington state so ‘unprepared’ for megaquake that survivors could be left stranded for up to a MONTH before rescue when ‘The Big One’ hits

    Washington state’s June megaquake drill uncovered flaws in official plans
    They include communications failures and a lack of manpower
    Red tape also stops the governor from calling in out-of-state medical help
    Lack of money has left some counties with just one disaster official
    Officials say residents should get enough supplies for at least two weeks
    Those in outlying areas could be left stranded for up to a month

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3871062/Washington-state-unprepared-megaquake-survivors-left-stranded-MONTH-rescue-Big-One-hits-officials-say.html

    nick

    Added- it’s funny, the ham reports on the exercise were mostly positive. No mention of the “poisonous atmosphere.” Of course, hams stepped in and did what they always do, filled the comms gap. That is why they have the spectrum. nick

  49. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Also, as always, the casualty estimates are ridiculously low. After being cut off from power, food, drinking water, critical drugs, medical care, etc. for thirty days, the death toll in the affected areas could easily be 90%.

  50. Dave says:

    Also, as always, the casualty estimates are ridiculously low. After being cut off from power, food, drinking water, critical drugs, medical care, etc. for thirty days, the death toll in the affected areas could easily be 90%.

    Thirty days without trash pickup and flushing toilets would kill a lot of people.

  51. nick flandrey says:

    And so continues the “March to War”

    Europe on war-footing: Britain sends tanks, drones and 800 troops to Estonia as part of the biggest military build-up on Russia’s borders since the Cold War after Putin completes nuclear drill for 40 million people

    The soldiers will be sent to the Eastern European country and will be joined by forces from Denmark and France, according to Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3874464/Europe-war-footing-Britain-sends-tanks-drones-800-troops-Estonia-biggest-military-build-Russia-s-borders-Cold-War-response-Putin-s-war-mongering.html

  52. nick flandrey says:

    Anyone still think “it couldn’t happen”?

    Yes it very well COULD. Will? Who knows. But these things take on a life of their own.

    “We’ve got everything in position, and spent all that money anyway……”

    nick

  53. nick flandrey says:

    To add to my generally surreal feeling today, life is becoming a Philip K Dick novel:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/10/roger-roots/persecution-bundy-good-guys/

    “Finally the Justice Department stipulated (without naming any names) that at least nine occupiers were undercover informants; a number greater than the number of defendants on trial. (Heavily redacted documents in the hands of the defense suggest the number of informants was actually at least 15.)”

    Read the article to see what a modern investigation entails. Note the social media, surveillance, and stoolie factors.

    Look at the money and effort put forth and ask yourself “why did they spend so much, why all the effort?”

    Clearly the current version (III, patriot, militia, whatever) is getting to be like when they used to investigate white supremacist groups- everyone in the room is a Fed….

    nick

  54. MrAtoz says:

    The nations sending military assets to “measure Johnsons” with Putin are spending a ton of cash. Cash they don’t have. Crimmigrants everywhere that those nations feel “obligated” to support. We may see Europe crumble at an exponential rate. Putin doesn’t have to do anything but stand before a mic and say “tRump, tRump, tRump” and WE’LL be sending scads more assets to die for Cankles.

  55. nick flandrey says:

    For anyone interested in more depth on the comm failures during Cascadia Rising MASSEX,

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiAyLjj0fjPAhXJJiYKHeCUCSAQFggyMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsuddenvalley.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FAfter-Action-Cascadia-Rising.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHvIm_-y8K_CfbV4vxyVq_pzmVYgQ&sig2=ZDuXevw2_BMp0_tUuf7lBA

    is an After Action Report from a local sheriff’s office.

    Despite this being an exercise, with months of advance planning and (probably) all staff fully on board:

    They didn’t have enough staff to keep up with exercise events (and there were only a relatively small number of incoming ‘injects’ or exercise events.)
    They couldn’t communicate with State (possibly because State didn’t have the staff to read their messages)
    They could communicate with .mil mgmt assets (something hams routinely practice)
    .mil couldn’t communicate with state either
    Their improvement plan is scheduled to take place over the next several YEARS. Hope the disaster waits…

    The exercise plan has a very nice communications plan attached with freqs, modes, phone numbers, etc….

    Sewer and water had some interesting things to say:

    ” Water reservoirs will not survive any large earthquake. Valve to shut off water are
    difficult to shut off in a timely manner
    • Lake Whatcom will have between 1 – 1.5 million gallons of sewer flowing into it.
    Emergency Response Plan is crap and need updating. Existing update is in
    works did fairly well but not published yet”

    — no utility water for you!

    And apparently none for them either “District EOC is lacking in basic necessities for survival.”

    General comments – interesting that several of the local agencies mention CERT involvement, but not the county or state.

    Hams stepped in to fill comms gaps no matter what the agency or group, or were identified as a resource that SHOULD have been used.

    Everywhere they complain about lack of staff. In a real event, most of the staff would be with family, unable to muster, or dead.

    Lots of interesting info in the reports.

    nick

  56. Dave Hardy says:

    “Thirty days without trash pickup and flushing toilets would kill a lot of people.”

    Those would be the longer-term survivors; a couple of days without pixels would have killed off the 90%.

    But besides the snark, any nasty sudden event could also mess up someone prepared as all git-out; an accident involving major injuries; pneumonia or bad burns; violent home invasion by looters; nearby chemical spill, etc. Or something as simple as a family member running out of critical meds.

    With regard to the spies, snoops, etc. in the so-called “liberty” movement, yeah; like I say, avoid crowds. A couple of years ago I was starting to get involved in email contacts with one of those groups and things started to bother me in that regard, plus the fact that the few active correspondents were scattered all over the country and only two of us in all of New England, so I just let it lapse and disappear. Shortly after that, the prime movers got all jammed up with accusations of financial shenanigans and snitching. Who knows what was really going on or if they’d been infiltrated?

    We kept hearing that we gotta mobilize, train together, hook up with like-minded others, etc., but like Mr. nick says, everyone in the room might be a Fed. And they’re apparently willing to spend taxpayer money concentrating on these homeland enemies than stopping the flood of genuine violent sons of bitches that they themselves are importing over our objections. What does that tell you?

    We pretty much are stuck with our families, friends, neighbors and fellow townspeople, and even then some of them are likely gonna be spies and snitches.

    And on the war footing? We’re playing a game of “chicken” again with the Russians AND the Chicoms. Ain’t it fun? Plus, if it gets to the shooting level for real, it’ll take our minds off what’s being done to us here at home, and that goes for their countries and populations, too.

    Stayed tuned for the evening One-Minute-Hates.

  57. MrAtoz says:

    Training, training, training. After 20 years of doing stuff like this in the Army, you learn a few things: Plans suck and need constant updating, plans go to shit as soon as you implement them, you can never have enough training. Imagine an exercise like above that you plan for and practice every 5 years or 2 years or every year. It’s not enough for the scale you are looking at. Yet, let’s make sure every crimmigrant in your State is well taken care of. Let’s watch our political leaders loot the State coffers by giving shit contracts to “Uncle Fred.” Another thing I learned is in the age of digital communication, talking between echelons, i.e., battalion to brigade, requires everyone to be on the same equipment and training on said equipment. My last tour in Korea as Battalion XO was fun. During exercises, we we’re required to send all status reports over the computer messaging system. This was by Division SOP. After four days, the Brigage XO called all the Battalion XOs in to screech at us for no reports. I pointed out they should all be sitting in the Brigage message center, by SOP. Yup, they were all sitting there. Egg on his face. My point, you can have the best equipment in the world, but lack of training, even awareness of what you have, and your plan is in the dumpster. It’s no different in the civilian world.

  58. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Oh, no. It’s gonna be MUCH worse in the civilian world.

  59. Dave Hardy says:

    Well, what can we, as schmuck civvies actually be able to handle? I’ve HAD mil-spec and cop experience and training but it was 40 years ago! About all I’m expecting to be able to MAYBE handle up here is taking care of my wife and doing ad-hoc stuff with neighbors as the need arises. And even this presupposes that we have adequate intel for what might be coming our way. Thus the importance, critically, of good intel, and by extension, radios, networks, and humint.

    We may have all our ducks lined up with cellar storage, guns and ammo, generators, meds, etc., but if we have no idea of what might be headed in our direction later today, tonight or next week, we’re kinda screwed, amirite? This means LISTENING. And not to Flo for the insurance commercials on the tee-vee, or to Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity or checking out whether someone has finally assassinated Negan. Or as the late Gil Scott-Heron sang “…whether Dick finally got down with Jane on Search for Tomorrow…”

  60. Clayton W. says:

    Re: Burns – Great suggestions. I was thinking second degree or localized third. I know major burns are not survivable SHTF. But Moderate- should be. Still wish I could get my hands on Silvadene.

    Re: Drills – On the submarine we drilled about 2 hours a day, 6 days a week while deployed. It works. We got to the point that we had almost too many people and material whenever a real casualty happened. Just like you’d want. Think, Plan, Drill.

  61. DadCooks says:

    WRT drills on submarines: Sadly too many followed the book and drills were single casualty events only. I consider myself fortunate to have served under Captains and Engineering Officers who knew the real world, many things going to shit at once or in a cascade.

    When we took President Carter on a “ride”, Admiral Rickover showed off his crown jewel boat and crew. First he “killed” all officers, then proceeded to run drills fore and aft for nearly 6-hours, culminating in a solid reactor scram and restart. Carter sat there in the Engineering Officer of the Watch’s (EOW) chair with his mouth hanging opening as Rickover went crazy. Carter made a single entry in the EOW’s log: “Drills for the President, Well Done”. We all got an unclassified copy of that log entry.

  62. nick flandrey says:

    Clayton, search on ebay for the “silver sulfadiazine” or “silverex”

    FWIW, lots of topical preparations that require a prescription in the US are available on ebay. When a tube of topical antifungal went from $9 to $300 here, I just bought 2 tubes on ebay. They were in the sealed packaging, and unexpired, and US made.

    It’s different by seller of course….

    Added- and varies with time, ie. new listings every day.

    n

  63. nick flandrey says:

    I wonder if any city now drills with “and now some cops are robbing stores” like they actually did in New Orleans during Katrina. I’d bet not. And I bet none of them get an ‘inject’ that everyone in the EOC is dead from CO poisoning….

    There is a balance in scenario development that is very difficult to achieve. You have to have a realistic ‘seeming’ event, without destroying the assets you are exercising. No one gets the benefit if they are “killed” or MIA at the beginning of the EX…

    I’ve thought that the best exercise coordinator would be an experienced role playing game “dungeon manager” and the exercise should involve saving rolls, etc.

    The real problem, of course, is not that the scenarios are hard to develop, it’s that everyone is SO woefully unprepared that ANY scenario tested will expose massive holes and deficiencies. You don’t need to get tricky to have the EX fail.

    nick

  64. Ray Thompson says:

    Well I voted. A most disgusting experience considering the choices. I voted against a candidate rather than for a candidate. Of course the polling people questioned my passport card again. One asked for a drivers license instead and I said no, what I gave you is a federal ID that is valid to vote. Supervisor that was summoned agreed.

  65. MrAtoz says:

    Of course the polling people questioned my passport card again.

    I sure if Barack went in with a worn piece of paper that said “I is a citasen but poor” he’d get to vote and get a free Moxie on the way out. Here, if you have your official sample ballot, it’s scanned, confirm your address, you sign a label and vote. No chance for fraud there. I should go back with my fems ballots and vote again:
    “that’s a woman’s name sir”
    “Don’t call me sir, I’m transgender you fukstik, I’m calling ObolaLynch on you”
    “Could we see some ID…”
    “Fuck you, I’m too poor to get one”
    “Please vote, er, ma’am, as much as you want as long as it’s for Cankles”

  66. MrAtoz says:

    Amazing that he got onto a Naval base and crashed into a jet. I thought they would open up on anybody going in the wrong way at speed.

  67. lynn says:

    We may see Europe crumble at an exponential rate. Putin doesn’t have to do anything but stand before a mic and say “tRump, tRump, tRump” and WE’LL be sending scads more assets to die for Cankles.

    The Caliphate is coming. I assume you mean scads more assets to die in the middle east.

    Well here’s a prime example of no clue

    http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article110373747.html

    I would not try that on the Marine Corps base that I was on several years ago. They would light them up.

  68. Dave Hardy says:

    “Amazing that he got onto a Naval base and crashed into a jet. I thought they would open up on anybody going in the wrong way at speed.”

    I know that if it had happened like that at an AF installation 40 years ago where there were nukular weapons, the Jeep would have been shredded to ribbons along with its occupants as it crashed through the gate or soon after. Dunno about nowadays.

    Thanks for your voting experience account, Mr. Ray, and also for MrAtoz’s virtual one; we should post our various chit up here after we do it, if we do it. And that reminds me to kick off the passport application process; I can pick mine up downtown when it’s ready, I guess; there’s a U.S. Passport Office and building there ’cause of the border, of course.

    Dunno about Europe crumbling that fast; as here, there are a LOT more Normals than incoming musloids or the progs and SJWs in government.

  69. lynn says:

    Dunno about Europe crumbling that fast; as here, there are a LOT more Normals than incoming musloids or the progs and SJWs in government.

    The Normals in the EU are old on an average basis (60+ ???). They would not survive a winter in siege conditions.

  70. dkreck says:

    Ten year old phone number to a demolished building???

    Five minutes before the gate runner got to the security post, CHP dispatch called the base to warn the Jeep might try to get into the front gate, the timeline said.

    “The phone rang for approximately two minutes and twenty seconds,” the timeline states. “The phone number was associated with a NASL building that had been demolished approximately 10 years prior.”

    Another call was made, but CHP got a busy signal. The CHP made a third attempt but again got a busy signal.

    CHP dispatch then called the base operations phone number, which put the call on hold. About one minute and 20 seconds later, base operations transferred the call to a duty officer who was told about the pursuit.

    Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article110373747.html#storylink=cpy

  71. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Still…

    Are the guards on duty weapons-free at all times? If not, they should be.

  72. MrAtoz says:

    At Nellis AFB, the gates have those metal pillars that come up on both sides and concrete slabs so you have to swerve through. I don’t see how a vehicle could rush through and not get caught. Of course, with low mental and physical standards these days, who knows.

  73. Clayton W. says:

    Sub base in Washington had an incident with a small plane flying down from Alaska with a broken radio was running out of gas and landed on the road between the bunkers in the nuclear weapon storage area. He thought it was Bremerton Airport. Marines were locked and loaded at the plane before it stopped rolling. They didn’t kill him. This was 87 or 88.

  74. DadCooks says:

    Today all bases are “protected” by rent-a-cops, usually not armed (you would want them to have even 1 bullet).

    Back in the day, prior to the 1980s, Navy bases were protected by Marines, most of whom were getting a little respite from Vietnam. You didn’t fuck with them and they didn’t need any “barriers” to stop an intrusion.

    The pussyfication of our military.

  75. Ray Thompson says:

    The pussyfication of our military.

    I think I hold a copyright on that word. You owe me big bucks for using it without authorization. I will expect my check when hell freezes over.

    Just got a call on my cell phone from India. I did not answer. Probably Microsoft Tech support telling me my computer is infected.

  76. MrAtoz says:

    Today all bases are “protected” by rent-a-cops, usually not armed (you would want them to have even 1 bullet).

    My last trip to Nellis, about a month ago, was full MP/SP. Armed. I even got saluted! Talk about sporting wood after that!

  77. Dave Hardy says:

    Stateside and at most overseas AF bases, the security police manned the gates and were law enforcement specialists; you’d see them in semi-dress uniforms and white hats and gloves, etc. They also did the cop thing on the base itself with any residents and structures there. Security specialist drones like me did the base perimeter, flight line, and weapons storage defense and usually would be in the OD green fatigues (with bloused trousers like paratroopers). In SEA we wore Woodland cammies. It was not a very good idea stateside or in SEA to fuck with the security specialists, and least of all with our K-9 guys.

    If nukular weapons were at the base or an associated site, the security got kicked up a few notches and we had Bent Spear and Broken Arrow drills all the time, but I never had to get involved in an actual incident like that. You’d get drilled like a Swiss cheese if you attempted to cross the established perimeter at one of those real deals, though.

    In SEA we did the usual air base defense chit and off-base bomb dumps likewise; always fun looking out with one eye for Mr. Victor Charles and his various buddies and the other eye on the ground searching for cobras and banded kraits (“two-steppers”).

    And at Bien Hoa air base north of Saigon we got detailed to provide security for a detachment of Green Berets, which was kinda surreal.

    Your humble northern correspondent arrived in SEA in time for the Easter Offensive and the Linebacker capers, as U.S. troops were leaving in droves. We got intermittent mortar and rocket and sapper attacks at Bien Hoa and Ton Sa Nhut. Keeps you on your toes 7×24, a tad stressful.

    After a vay-cay at a mountaintop radar site in northern Kalifornia I went back to SEA, stopping off in the Philippines at Clark AFB for aircrew survival training and then on to first, Ubon Royal Thai Air Force Base, and then Nakhon Phanom RTAFB, with a temporary training gig at Don Muang RTAFB near Bangkok (Krung Thep). More combat training had occurred meanwhile back in lovely east Texas, and then again in-country. My last six months were spent whizzing around the whole SEA region with the 56th Special Operations Wing in choppers and AC130 gunships.

    Quite an adventurous four years for a short-timer bastid. So long ago but I remember stuff crystal-clear like it was yesterday. Can’t remember MIL’s phone number, though, or what else I was supposed to do this afternoon.

  78. Dave Hardy says:

    @MrAtoz; Is Nellis still being used for the fighter combat and simulator training, with various players representing various enemy fighters?

  79. MrAtoz says:

    I’m not sure what all is done on Nellis. The Thunderbirds, of course, and all the stuff that supports that. I see specops Blackhawks going there now and then. There may be some sooper secret drone stuff controlled from there, also.

  80. lynn says:

    Today all bases are “protected” by rent-a-cops, usually not armed (you would want them to have even 1 bullet).

    In 2009, the Marine Corps 29 Palms base in Kalifornia had Marine MPs. Half of these were women with very tough attitudes. One of the Marines on the gate was my son’s buddy’s wife who was six months pregnant. That belly was so tight from a million situps per day (slight exaggeration) that the baby bump barely showed.

    Anyway, we were going through the gate one night to drop our son off and the MP at the gate smelled alcohol in the vehicle in front of us. He / she had all four Marines out and up against the fence in a flash. Another MP moved the vehicle out of the lane. As we went by, I saw the breathalyzer come out. Most people don’t know that 0.04 is considered under the influence on a military base.

  81. lynn says:

    Can’t remember MIL’s phone number, though, or what else I was supposed to do this afternoon.

    You were supposed to transfer $10,000 to MIL bank account so she could give half of that to Princess.

  82. Dave Hardy says:

    When I was working for Uncle the jarhead MPs also had control over the Navy brigs as well as their own and it was not a good idea for prisoners to mess with them or do anything but what they were told, period. Get mouthy and find yourself hogtied and gagged for a few hours. Or slammed repeatedly with wet phone books. Other various medieval devices and restraints.

    The Army’s jails were called “stockades” and in ‘Nam before my time there was a chit-load of racial battles in them, stateside, too. The AF’s jails were known as “Correctional Custody” or “CC.”

    Dunno how it’s done nowadays.

  83. Dave Hardy says:

    “You were supposed to transfer $10,000 to MIL bank account so she could give half of that to Princess.”

    Good one! It was fah less than that but dollars to doughnuts Princess will get some of it in the next week or two and then we’ll have to pay MIL again. See how that works?

    I also got a call from a picture framing shop downtown earlier saying our purchase was ready for pickup; no idea what that is but will ask The Spouse tonight when she calls from the Capital District, Mr. SteveF’s AO.

    @Mr.SteveF; keep yer eyes peeled, if you’re still awake, haha, for a silver 2011 Toyota RAV4 with a couple of baseball team decals on it and a redhead driving it. VT plates, of course.

  84. DadCooks says:

    Okay fellows, I stand guilty of over adjective-ication. I should have said “a few” are “protected by rent-a-cops”. I just dropped and gave you 1, that’s all I can do with my bum legs. Now I am going to go polish my brass…

  85. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    TMI.

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