09:00 – More rioting in Charlotte overnight. You know things are serious when the governor calls out the National Guard. Charlotte is just the latest big city to experience underclass scum rioting. I’m afraid we can expect more of the same in other cities, and we can expect it to become a regular thing. Eventually, I expect rioting to become a regular thing in big cities and to start becoming common in mid-size cities like Winston-Salem. And, if nothing is done to stop it, I expect rioting to shift from occurring just in the city of the week to occurring simultaneously in cities across the country.
Unfortunately, the federal government sides with the rioters, which means there isn’t much the cities can do to stamp out this plague. Killing rioters by the hundreds or thousands would work, but there’s no way the federal government would tolerate the cops actually doing their jobs, because that would involve shooting Democrat voters. The only alternative I see is for city police departments to walk away from the inner cities, concentrate on protecting the surrounding suburbs, and allow the scum to loot and burn freely in the inner cities. That’d obviously be hard on the relatively small number of decent people who live in the inner cities, but what other option is there? Cops, firemen, paramedics, and other emergency personnel are already loathe to work inner city areas. How much longer will be it before they simply refuse to continue risking their lives by doing so?
Barbara returns home today. Colin and I can’t wait.
Jeff Cooper was a proponent of a silenced .22 rifle as an anti-rioter weapon. His point was that a well-placed shot to the right lung is reasonably unlikely to kill, but will certainly incapacitate any rioter.
Robert’s wholesale solution is perhaps (socio)logically more compelling, but a political non-starter. As a poor second, having it be widely known that there is a small, but non-zero probability of being shot in the lung while rioting might be enough at least to keep the numbers of rioters down.
If the riots become so regular and police are injured every night, who will show up at the station house the next day? Police have families they want to come home to each night. Expect the Police unions to react and the numbers of available officers to fall. Down this road leads vigilantism. And chaos.
I’m afraid you might be right. What about all the suburban commuters who work in downtown areas? If I were one of them, I’d be focusing my efforts on finding a suburban job. That and figuring out when I draw the line and quit without finding a new job first.
Also, how many rioters does it take to get an incapacitated rioter to the hospital?
TNLU O-T-D: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/21/woman-accused-prostituting-5-month-old-meth/
I predict an increase in office jobs that allow you to work from home. Either with working from home as the normal state of affairs or working from home one day a week as training for working from home indefinitely in case there is a disruptive event near the office.
Is W-S a much nicer city to live in than Charlotte?
ISTR Jasmine went to UNCC. How did she like it?
RBT, it’s not a riot, it’s a civil war. With the police on one side and the thugs on the other. With the current federal government supporting the thugs.
So Twitter has shut down Glenn Reynolds account for his response to a news report that rioters were blocking traffic on the Interstate. I logged into my twitter account for the first time in months to deactivate it. In 30 days it’s gone.
In footage I saw, some of the protesters’ clothing was better than “street thug” level.
It reminded me of the annual May Day protests in Seattle where trust fund babies and “Sosh” majors get an excuse to wreak havoc … right after their Starbucks shift ends.
Unfortunately, I worked in the Bank Of America building in May 2013, but management sent everybody home before evening shift change at Starbucks.
Also, how many rioters does it take to get an incapacitated rioter to the hospital?
None. The rest are busy looting stores.
protesters’ clothing was better than “street thug” level
Stolen during the last riot.
The Silver Lining here is what few of those thugs vote won’t now. Too busy trying on the “free” sneaks.
The disruptive protests which are popping up nationwide have so far missed the major city near me. I suspect I have a serious case of normalcy bias. Even with that, I’m starting to think twice about things I would have done before without thinking. I’m going to think twice about going to our favorite museum. The museum closes before sunset, I used to wonder why, and now I’m thinking that the city itself closes at sunset.
My biggest fear is that the administration is doing it’s best to move the scum into the suburbs. I don’t care if the animals kill each other, but I have no interest in the scum moving into my neighborhood.
http://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas-last-act-is-to-force-suburbs-to-be-less-white-and-less-wealthy/
Yep, ‘magic dirt’ combined with ‘crab bucket effect’ is not gonna be pretty.
I suspect that I’m seeing it in the area surrounding my neighborhood as the number of visible blacks on the street has increased dramatically. So has the incidence of seeing groups of young black males just ‘hanging out’ in public spaces. Like both sides of the hike and bike trail. You have to pass physically thru the group. This is intimidating behaviour no matter what the skin color. And as I’ve said before, they are dressed to express their association with and approval of a culture of misogyny, crime, sexual and physical abuse, and drug abuse.
This is in stark contrast to when you see groups of individual hispanic males in the area. They are normally dressed for WORK. They do not, by and large, just stand around in groups, (except where they are looking for day labor). They do not arrange themselves so that other people have to pass thru the middle of their group.
There are no groups of white men who stand around in my neighborhood. There are a few white male individuals who are clearly street people, but they don’t group, and they generally try to stay out of the way.
nick
Obola is sending the DoJ to Charlotte so everybody calm the f*ck down. A team of lawyers will fix it.
And WTF is wrong with people? Reporter is knocked down deliberately during live broadcast.
“‘Yeah, yeah, yeah, we’re fine, Anderson, we’re fine,’ Lavandera told Cooper. ‘It’s just someone taking out their frustrations on me.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802230/War-zone-Charlotte-White-man-begs-mercy-beaten-reporter-nearly-dragged-fire-rioters-people-told-stay-home-work-police-shooting-black-father.html”
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/09/22/ed-lavandera-charlotte-protests-attack-sot.cnn
Yep, that’s all it is, someone righteously taking out their frustrations…..
nick
I’ve been thinking what I would do if I were 500 miles from home facing uncertain fuel supplies and uncertain urban environments. I have decided I would start thinking about fueling up at 3/4 of a tank and definitely refuel before going below one half of a tank. I’d avoid stopping in major cities, and I’d take the loop around a major city rather than drive on the downtown interstate.
So the thugs are “protesting” and they don’t want reporters to cover it. Sounds to me like the reporters and their friends in the government are the only people who think the “protests” are not riots. Let’s plaster what the thugs are doing on every TV station 24 hours a day seven days a week until the election.
Great, this fucking thing is back too.
Fears over mysterious polio-like illness as CDC data reveals sharp uptick in cases this year
CDC data shows number of cases since January have surged
Acute flaccid myelitis is inflammation of the spine that causes paralysis
Doctors remain largely ignorant about how the illness works
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3802212/Fears-mysterious-polio-like-illness-CDC-data-reveals-sharp-uptick-cases-year.html
I checked. There was one Black Lives Matter protest in the major city near me 2.5 months ago. It was actually a protest, not a riot, and ended uneventfully. The next time a police shooting happens in the major city, whether justified or not, I’m not convinced that things will remain calm.
From a quote an article quoted on Instapundit about life in Mosul. I thought it was interesting because vegetables are more available that staples. I guess it’s easier to grow vegetables locally, but harder to import the staples that aren’t grown locally. I wouldn’t have thought Mosul to be a hotbed of vegetable horticulture, but apparently they grow better there than the staple crops do.
@dave, I was thinking about the reporter’s comment which seems to imply that it’s OK to attack him because the attacker was frustrated.
Some white guilt there [or LIBERAL guilt], unless I’m reading too much into it.
I thought the progressive mantra was ‘violence never solves anything’ (mainly because they are physically weak cowards) unless it’s violence against whites by browns, then it’s a legitimate struggle for justice.
On a related note, the obsessive news coverage will beget more not less violence. The ‘selfie generation’ loves to stomp their feet and scream ‘look at me!’ The body language of the agitators and protesters is very often just mammalian dominance posturing.
Clamp down, cut media coverage to bare statement of the facts (the protest downtown turned to violence and was shut down by police using retch gas, UV taggants, and tasers. No images will be shown. High resolution video will be used to prosecute anyone committing physical crimes during the riot. In other news, ….)
n
I support their right to free speech and free assembly. I do not support their right to destroy property, assault people, or impede commerce. No one cares or will watch unless you scream into a riot shield? Too bad, maybe your cause isn’t as just as you think.
More signs of mental illness:
“Women strip off outside Argentina’s house of congress to protest against the objectification of women
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801667/Women-strip-outside-Argentina-s-house-congress-protest-against-objectification-women-ensure-awkward-moment-man-s-life.html”
So they’re protesting against just being seen as a body, by……. just being seen as a body. That is some grade A stupid right there.
n
I agree that obsessive news coverage will make the situation worse. My comment was more that traditional Democrat voters would be force to see the problem. But if they haven’t already seen it, it’s too late.
The liberal white guilt thing is absurd. It’s not white privilege or male privilege, it’s middle class privilege. How else do you explain the fact that the most privileged “whites” are Asians and Jews, who are also the “whites” who are the most discriminated against.
Now they’re going to get it under control. This is real serious…
http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-panthers-and-nfl-are-considering-moving-sundays-game-because-of-charlotte-protests/
I guess they expect this to be going on for a few more days.
Here’s one worth reading:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/09/brandon-smith/deplorables/
Mrs. OFD recently had a gig in Charlotte and also had to drive through it or take a flight outta there, I forget the details. Quiet then, though.
If you look carefully at riot footage in the last few years, you will notice white personnel, usually male, right out front at first, and then they kinda slip to the rear and “direct” or whatever from the sides and rear, often just disappearing altogether. The official BLM leadership are de facto communists and the contemporary version of the CPUSA has been very busy instigating this stuff and fomenting more violent tension.
I believe we’re looking at the beginning stages of the next civil war, and currently our regime is on the side of the mobs. How this will play out later with LE and EMS and armed forces people is a big question mark, but I suspect many will not stay on board.
In IT job nooz up here, there has been a flurry of activity with me over the past couple of days via recruiters; one gig would be a sys admin as a contractor for a contractor for contractor for a big Fed agency, Winblows environment but interesting sandbox testing and image stuff, also security. Another one, ironically, would be going right back into those same IBM data centers I worked in up until three years ago, this time as a contractor for the outfit that bought the IBM plantations. RHEL server clusters.
I really don’t care that much, except we’re under some pressure for the taxes and wife’s medical stuff and we have one last year for Princess to finish college, so I am doing the due diligence again and making wife happy I’m on the case still.
If the gigs are interesting without being a total slave drone and there is a good team to work with, I’ll take the money.
That was a good piece at the Lew Rockwell site link; pretty much dead on the money throughout.
I thought this was interesting in the short bio sketch at the end:
“…and is now focusing on the creation of a national network of barter markets designed to insulate and protect local economies from the inevitable collapse of the current unsustainable fiat system.”
Indeed.
The one thing I take exception to in that article is that, after he specifically mentions musloids as a group, he says, “That said, I don’t hold any claims against any of these groups per se, as long as they respect my inherent and individual freedoms. If they are determined to impose their ideology on me through force, that is another matter entirely.”
But musloids are, of course, “determined to impose their ideology on me through force”.
@Dave I suspect I have a serious case of normalcy bias
Normalcy bias is curable.
People all over the country are cured every time a terrorists sets off a bomb, a pipeline breaks, a riot erupts, a new disease shows up, or some foreign dictator tests a nuclear device. Normalcy bias ends when you realize it ain’t normal out there. I have a feeling many people became preppers in the last week or so.
“But musloids are, of course, “determined to impose their ideology on me through force””
Agreed, I saw that, too; and it’s not so much an ideology as it is a pseudo-religious cult that spreads its venom through war, rape and theft. As for imposing it via force, they’ve now taken the place of the communists and are a greater threat worldwide. And we had our fellow travelers and useful idiots then, too.
“Normalcy bias ends when you realize it ain’t normal out there. I have a feeling many people became preppers in the last week or so.”
Yeah, I’m waiting for that shoe to drop up here, and more so down in MA with the spouses there. Women apparently have a very tough time with this stuff; it’s too hard, is the sense I get. Unpleasant. Crazy. Some of them actually lose their shit and get mad at you for bringing it up; from others, like up here, you get mockery. Or in some situations that I’ve heard about, they abruptly cut off all contact with you.
I don’t envy them when they finally do get it.
You are all a bunch of xenophobes here.
Thanks for giving me a place to hang out! 🙂
“How to Know an Election is Over”
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150772972746/how-to-know-an-election-is-over
“In the 2D world in which most people live, Clinton and Trump are polling about evenly, and either one could win. The 2D world is all about facts and policies and common sense. In other words – all the stuff we think we care about but really don’t.”
“In the 3D world of persuasion, however, the election is already over. There is still some mystery about how large the margin will be, but Trump is already the President of the United States unless something big happens in the next few weeks. How do I know that?”
“Listen to this clip in which Clinton asks why she isn’t leading by 50 points. Ignore the content of what she says, because no one cares about content. Just feel it.”
Yep. Mary freaked out and said she didn’t want any contact with me for a while. That was about 18 months ago. If the SHTF, I’d still take her in without a second’s thought.
Oddly, the camel straw appears to have been when I found out that neither of them had an EDC flashlight, so I gave them two of mine (which temporarily took me down to just one on my person).
Xenos don’t scare me.
Wow is she ever abrasive in that clip. Does she always sound like that?
Aside- I love the hypocrisy of the unions with their anti-right to work. They argue and fight that the only ones who need jobs or have a right to them are their members. “You’re taking food out of my kid’s mouth.” SO FUCKING WHAT. You’re taking food out of MY kid’s mouth.
I hope the union movement in the US continues it’s slide toward irrelevance.
n
I found out that neither of them had an EDC flashlight
You had to bring up FLASHLIGHTS didn’t you?
In case anybody cares, this version of kat seems to work well:
http://kickass.cd/full/
“Wow is she ever abrasive in that clip. Does she always sound like that?”
She’s a very nasty piece of work and many accounts have been written over the decades about her personal style and behavior, esp. toward subordinate staff, but also, of course, directed against her great big lovable lug of a serial rapist and junkie, Larry.
With the Parkinson’s ripping merrily along and the modern availability of instant videos worldwide of the pores in your nose skin (or that hole in your tongue), more people can see what a fugly horror she is close up. And hear it.
“In case anybody cares, this version of kat seems to work well:”
There were/are supposedly several questionable kat sites up and running, including gummint honeypots.
I’m viewing the events in Charlotte from afar, of course. What I find fascinating is the choice of words. You have news sources talking about the “protests”, and you have other sites that talk about the “riots”.
A protest and a riot are very different things. Any media site that uses the word “protest” is clearly trying to downplay what is really going on. Even “riot” is being a bit kind, because it is looks much more like planned vandalism and looting. Sure, there are some opportunists, but some groups pretty clearly planned their actions from the start.
I agree with RBT that the police should be harsher. They’re buying short-term peace (really?) with their restraint, by ceding long-term control of their city. That’s not a good bargain. When a rioter attacks a bystander or a cop, they need to be taken down immediately, with whatever force is necessary.
There were/are supposedly several questionable kat sites up and running, including gummint honeypots.
Yup. The one I posted is from an article talking about scammers grabbing a bunch of the kat clones and trying to get you to sign up for a free account (We won’t charge your credit card, promise!).
Always use a VPN.
This is the article on kat scammers:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/kickasstorrents-mirror-kat-am-back-beware-scammers-1575524
Xenos don’t scare me, but Xenu does 🙂
@RBT, I remember that when it happened and it seemed very strange and out of character, considering the length of your friendship.
Seeing it from afar, it seemed that there must have been more to it than that, but it really wasn’t something [readers] needed to know more about.
It’s only relevant as a story about what can happen with this fringe thing we call prepping.
And it’s a shame that you lost the relationship.
n
(and you never really know someone, something could be buried there that was triggered by your ordinary activities.)
“A protest and a riot are very different things… I agree with RBT that the police should be harsher. They’re buying short-term peace (really?) with their restraint, by ceding long-term control of their city. That’s not a good bargain. When a rioter attacks a bystander or a cop, they need to be taken down immediately, with whatever force is necessary.”
Watch this video of a riot during an Ireland-England soccer game in Dublin in 1995. It is instructive. The Garda Public Order unit (otherwise known as the “riot squad”) waded into the rioters with batons, separated them from the rest of the spectators, then sent in attack dogs. They subsequently beat the crap out of the troublemakers, and arrested the whole section. The hooligans were tried and sentenced overnight, and the lucky ones found themselves on the next ferry back to the UK, with a lifetime ban on returning to Ireland. The stupid ones, who resisted arrest, got a beating before landing on the next ferry. The ringleaders additionally got a nice all-inclusive stay in an Irish jail before they begged to be deported too. Remember, these are “unarmed” police officers, but the Gardai have never tolerated violence against their own.
https://youtu.be/mBeDSFGzShg?t=40m30s
I’m beginning to wonder if all the current and probable additional rioting will not give “Illary” an out for Monday’s debate.
If the debate is held I predict a record viewership just to see if “Illary” trips out. I’ll be keeping my finger on the mute button though so I can silence that _itch (choose “w” or “b”), anything that comes out of her mouth is pure detritus of the most putrid kind.
Yesterday when my wife took her break and went over to the hospital cafeteria she saw a Kennewick Police Office sitting alone drinking a cup of coffee. She took her cup of coffee and asked if he minded some company, of course he said “please have a seat”. She had a nice conversation with him, not just about the weather etc. He mentioned how lucky we are to live in our relatively insulated bubble in this corner of WA, but he is seeing a slow slide into the muck of the “big” cities with the influx of true deplorables soon to reach a critical mass, even here.
Mustn’t tweet badthink stuff:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/local/twitter-suspends-glenn-reynolds-account-after-tweet-urges-motorists-to-run-down-charlotte-protesters-394398621.html?d=mobile
He shoulda stuck to it and told them to sod the fuck off. He can get by w/o that gig, I’m pretty sure. Based almost entirely on their political stances, with their constant need to shut down opposing and dissenting speech, OFD holds no truck anymore w/FaceCrack, Twitter (never did anyway), or Google (phasing out the gmail and using other search engines), etc. Ditto Microslop and Oracle.
“…but he is seeing a slow slide into the muck of the “big” cities with the influx of true deplorables soon to reach a critical mass, even here.”
I take it you’re using a distinction between US as “deplorables,” and “true deplorables,” i.e, underclass elements of whatever race, ethnic group, etc.
Ya know, ya hate to come off as rayciss, but goddammit, we have about ten Afrikan-Murkans over in the “city” (seen only since winter ended in April, incidentally, and often Not From Around Here, obviously), and every week one or more of the males are in the cop blotter or even front page for various offenses, including dope, weapons, outstanding warrants, knife fights, etc. With the exception, maybe, of two of them that I know of, the rest of them are always in the shit for something. So what is the average schmuck Whitey derp around here supposed to think? That the cops have it in for them? Seriously? I’ve seen them in bunches swaggering down the main drag late at night or loitering on one of the crummier streets off Main. They seem to go out of their way to be noticed and intimidating.
I’m sure this is just a teeny little example of what Mr. nick is reporting on from the Great Lone Star State where he lives.
My biggest fear is that the administration is doing it’s best to move the scum into the suburbs. I don’t care if the animals kill each other, but I have no interest in the scum moving into my neighborhood.
http://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas-last-act-is-to-force-suburbs-to-be-less-white-and-less-wealthy/
“Anticipating NIMBY resistance, Castro last month threatened to sue suburban landlords for discrimination if they refuse even Section 8 tenants with criminal records. And last year, he implemented a powerful new regulation — “Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing” — that pressures all suburban counties taking federal grant money to change local zoning laws to build more low-income housing (landlords of such properties are required to accept Section 8 vouchers).”
The key here is to NOT own low income housing.
My father in law took section 8 rentals for a while in his Houston rental house. My experience is that those people are subhuman. You just would not believe how much damage they can do to a house. Since they did not take out the trash for several months, the house acquired a horrible stench and roaches nesting in the walls everywhere. I forget how many roach bombs we set off but it may have been a dozen. And ineffective. I was pulling off the electrical outlet plates and scraping the roach colonies out with a screwdriver.
I think a lot of people have gotten away with a lot of sh!t for a long time. They are the little yap dog it’s easier to ignore, because at the end of the day it’s just a little dog. When that dog sh!ts on your pillow or bites you, then you get rid of the dog, or make sure it won’t bite you ever again.
THAT’S what these stupid agitators are risking. They live on the sufferance of the productive. When that sufferance turns to suffering for enough of them, the little dog will get kicked across the room.
Building anger and resentment? Oh yeah, you betcha.
n
“that pressures all suburban counties taking federal grant money to change local zoning laws to build more low-income housing (landlords of such properties are required to accept Section 8 vouchers).””
Chicago went down this path, tearing down the most notorious high rise low income housing, and moving the occupants out into the communities. My sisters lived within sight of Caprini Green, one of the worst. Every new multifamily 2 flat had to have a ‘garden’ apartment in the basement for low income. They got the hell out of there as soon as they could. Oh, and there are articles about how unsuccessful this effort was at improving the lives of the residents. It just removed them from their community and what support it provided.
We’ve talked about it before on here, but dropping a turd into a swimming pool doesn’t make the pool better, and it doesn’t make the turd into a candy bar (baby ruth!) It just chases everyone else out of the pool. Anyone who is offended by that analogy is free to rent to section 8 in their own home. Then get back to me. (Oh, and you don’t get to cherry pick the one person who really is a decent person just down on their luck. You get whichever 4th generation welfare slug they send you.)
nick
@Denis – We saw some pretty amazing riots at ManU games in the Midlands when we lived in Notts. The UK Hooligans are surprisingly stupid.
My sister rented her house to some Underclass scum when she moved to Michigan. When she was finally able to evict them (took 8+ months), her husband and brother-in-law spent 2 weeks filling dumpsters with trash. There was a pile of laundry in the basement that reached to the ceiling. Some still with tags on it. The bottom of the pile was decomposing.
And we’re getting section 8 housing in some of our outlying areas. 2.5 miles from me is too close. I’m making a nuisance of myself at township meetings. No, I don’t want them near me. They smell bad, and they don’t make things better.
Buncha haters.
“When that sufferance turns to suffering for enough of them, the little dog will get kicked across the room.”
At best. At the rate the resentment, anger and bitterness is building, that yappy little mutt will be pancaked into the floor and then lit on fire.
He shoulda stuck to it and told them to sod the fuck off.
Not only that, but the school at which he works is investigating his tweet.
http://wate.com/2016/09/22/university-of-tennessee-investigating-law-professors-tweet
He did not post as a member of the university so why the hell is the university concerned about it. In my opinion he did not tweet on university time using university equipment so the university is not involved. He has a right to free speech which the university has no right to suppress. To quote the bitch Melanie Wilson:
“The university is committed to academic freedom, freedom of speech, and diverse viewpoints, all of which are important for an institution of higher education and the free exchange of ideas. My colleagues and I in the university’s leadership support peaceful civil disobedience and all forms of free speech, but we do not support violence or language that encourages violence,” said Wilson in a statement. “Professor Reynolds has built a significant platform to discuss his viewpoints, but his remarks on Twitter are an irresponsible use of his platform.”
Another example of a liberal fembot that thinks their views are the only acceptable views and opposing views should not be tolerated. The university should be terminating Melanie Wilson.
I agree with his tweet. If I was in the area and those thugs touched my vehicle I would run them down smearing their guts on the asphalt. My safety comes before their agenda and I would consider such touching of my vehicle as an eminent threat to be dealt with using deadly force.
At best. At the rate the resentment, anger and bitterness is building, that yappy little mutt will be pancaked into the floor and then lit on fire.
I am wondering when that will happen. I figure that some person, maybe a business owner whose store just got trashed, is just going to be pushed over the edge by these rioters and just walk into a riot with several handguns, shooting everyone in sight.
We’ve talked about it before on here, but dropping a turd into a swimming pool doesn’t make the pool better, and it doesn’t make the turd into a candy bar (baby ruth!) It just chases everyone else out of the pool. Anyone who is offended by that analogy is free to rent to section 8 in their own home. Then get back to me. (Oh, and you don’t get to cherry pick the one person who really is a decent person just down on their luck. You get whichever 4th generation welfare slug they send you.)
I can get way worse. Such as the used tampons on the floor next to the toilet. That was the one that broke my mother in law.
My sister rented her house to some Underclass scum when she moved to Michigan
MIL lives across the street from a section 8 house. It seems in San Antonio if you offer your house for rent you must accept HUD or are not allowed to rent. MIL lives in a lower income area near Lackland and has for 50 years.
The losers that lived in the house never went to work, always have people over drinking beer in the yard, probably doing drugs inside. The yard was trashed, exterior of the house was trashed with broken windows and screens. A couple of junk cars in the yard. The would swear at my MIL, flip her the finger, and even threatened her. Police showed up and did nothing. They stole from my MIL’s yard, would play loud music until 3 or 4 in the morning. The dregs of society that in my opinion should be allowed to rot and die.
Eventually the people moved out (or were thrown out for the drugs) and the owner was stuck with a hefty repair project. All the appliances were gone and the wiring had been ripped from the walls. Back when those houses were built they used copper lines and of course all the plumbing was ripped out.
HUD refused to offer any assistance for the damage. It was HUD’s renters that caused the damage yet HUD refuses to help with the damage.
The owner had to strip all the sheet rock out of the structure. New wiring and plumbing installed and while it was being installed needed to have a guard 24 hours a day for the three days it took to install the plumbing and wiring. It was expensive.
The owner no longer offered the house for rent because HUD would have allowed another section 8 loser with nothing the owner could do. So he sold the house so that HUD could no longer use the house for rent.
It seems in San Antonio if you offer your house for rent you must accept HUD or are not allowed to rent.
I would think that this is an unfair taking of private property for public use without compensation, contrary to the 5th amendment of the federal constitution.
From
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fifth_amendment
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
“… pushed over the edge by these rioters and just walk into a riot with several handguns, shooting everyone in sight.”
Or a semi-auto rifle. In either case, someone who knows what they’re about can wreak a chit-ton of havoc. If it was that mad-dog sonofabitch OFD, for example, he could theoretically run the toll into the hundreds. By hisself. With a sore back. And bifocals.
Mr. Ray’s little anecdote is a perfect example of whose side the regime is on, you know, the regime to which we pay our fucking taxes so these bloodsuckers can live in self-inflicted squalor.
And who is surprised by this:
http://nypost.com/2016/09/22/its-no-longer-safe-for-the-citys-senior-citizens-to-go-outside/
Harold wrote:
“@Denis – We saw some pretty amazing riots at ManU games in the Midlands when we lived in Notts. The UK Hooligans are surprisingly stupid.”
What do you expect from ManUnited supporters?
Okay, if Bill isn’t Chelsea’s father who is? Is there any reasonable proof?
“I would think that this is an unfair taking of private property for public use without compensation, contrary to the 5th amendment of the federal constitution.”
The U.S. Constitution has not been applicable for decades now. At one time the Supreme Court upheld the U.S. Constitution, now they “interpret” it to mean the opposite of the Founders intent.
Time for a New Declaration.
“without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.””
You had your “due process” when the regulation was promulgated. You went to the public hearing on the rulemaking and filed your ‘comment on prospective rulemaking’, right? Right?
You get your “just compensation” when you rent to the scumbags. You’re getting market rate. Right? Right?
Same way the cops decided that a deaf guy can be killed without repercussion because he ‘didn’t comply with commands.’ Doesn’t matter that he CAN’T comply with commands he can’t hear. Right? Right?
I’m telling you we’ve been asleep and the inmates have taken over. When enough wake up, there will be hell to pay. [although I’m not sure there will BE an awakening, we’re long overdue for one.]
nick
As a landlord myself, all I can do is set my rent HIGH and do whatever I can to keep the decent tenant when I get one.
By hisself. With a sore back. And bifocals.
Don’t forget the sciatica. That’ll probably just make you meaner and carry extra “clips”.
I carry plenty of extra clips for my M1 Garand, or did before I lost it in the lake.
I might have had clips for my AK, you know, before it got lost….
Combat load in mags, one in clips, loose in the can……
n
I did have 250 clips of 5.56 ball, but I lost it in the lake to.
Go wid somthin’ lighter, Bob; us old farts don’t wanna be totin’ dat ting around all the time.
“Don’t forget the sciatica. That’ll probably just make you meaner…”
That and seeing the nooz every day.
“Okay, if Bill isn’t Chelsea’s father who is? Is there any reasonable proof?”
https://smile.amazon.com/Clintons-War-Women-Roger-Stone/dp/1510713921/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1474579848&sr=1-1&keywords=the+clintons+war+on+women
Or just take a look at pictures of them. And then grok the vague and non-committal responses from the relevant parties involved.
Oh my, la raza, aztlan, whatever,
“Far Left Group Is Running Profanity-Laced “Make America Mexico Again” Ad for Votes (VIDEO)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/democratic-group-running-profanity-laced-make-america-mexico-ad-votes-video/
Even the skank in the video says 2 out of 3 are here legally, which leaves, class…class…Bueller? 1 out of 3 is a criminal illegal immigrant. By their own admission.
You can’t make this sh!t up.
n
What a joke video. Aimed exclusively at “WHITE guilt”. Talk about a strawman. tRump gonna throw all Mexies out, biotch. Dumbfuks.
“Even the skank in the video says 2 out of 3 are here legally…”
She’s lying. Guaranteed.
This just in: OFD is at this moment attending live class for Vermont Master Composter, via Groovy UV Extension. Followed in the spring by Vermont Master Gardener. High-tech prepping, ladies and germs. And after the composting class is done, I’ll be ready to compost the piles of executed SJWs and FSAs and progs.
Render them for their fat….
Just don’t forget to compost plenty of green stuff with the brown stuff.
By green stuff I will assume you mean the fiat currency that is being phased out anyway for ALL ELECTRONIC, and what could possibly go wrong???
Rendering for fat…and fuel!
Oh and in that video, I loved the whole “look at my brown—look at it!!11!!!111” like it’s some sort of magic talisman. Never occurred to them that what we hate is the lawlessness. Nope, gotta be ‘cuz we’re afeard of their mighty mighty skin tone.
For gnu’s sake, most of the year I’M darker than that light skinned skank. When I used to ride every weekend with (mostly) hispanics, they’d forget I was white. There was one night when a rider who we’d all seen every weekend, but who wore a full face helmet, rode past. One of the guys wondered aloud why he never stopped to hang out. Another guy laughed and said “maybe he’s white!” After a couple of beats, one guy says to me, “hey, you’re white, how come you weren’t too afraid to stop?” I looked at him and just asked “should I be?” Of course they fell all over themselves saying no… and we were all just a bunch of guys who rode super bikes and hung out on the weekend.
nick
Just got an email from Yahoo’s alleged IT security bonze warning me they’d been hacked and what I should do next (I still have an old Yahoo email account that I haven’t got around to dumping yet, but tonight’s the night!)
Then we have this:
“SAN FRANCISCO — Yahoo announced on Thursday that the account information for at least 500 million users was stolen by hackers two years ago, in the biggest known intrusion of one company’s computer network.”
TWO YEARS AGO.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/technology/yahoo-hackers.html?_r=0
And of course either we have bad peeps abusing Tor and/or it’s a black flag op to discredit Tor and shut it down.
Actually, I just meant foliage in about equal amounts with the brown shit.
“Nope, gotta be ‘cuz we’re afeard of their mighty mighty skin tone.”
Thus once again demonstrating THEIR innate rayciss attitudes, not OURS.
I always have a laugh when the local Western Abenaki tribes get on the nooz up here for various issues; most of them are whiter than I am and with similar Anglo-Celtic surnames. And I’m pretty effin white, red hair and green eyes; only peeps whiter are squareheads, Finns, and albinos.
Just saw a vid of Killary braying like a jackass about how she supports union workers and so forth; what a lying sack of shit; she doesn’t give a flying fuck about union Dirt People. And “why aren’t I 50 points ahead of Donald Trump in the polls?”
I bet that’s what most derps and the MSM and the RINOs all thought would happen; they didn’t bargain for Cheeto-Head and the rising pitchforks-and-bonfires attitudes throughout, not only here, but in the UK and the Continent. They’re seeing their shit start to unravel now and they’re wetting their pink panties. Or rubber, as the case may be.
I would think that this is an unfair taking of private property for public use without compensation
HUD is not taking your property, only that you rent to section 8 cretins. You are given fair market value for renting your property. The rental rate is not what the cretins pay, but what HUD pays. The cretins pay very little with HUD making up the difference. Usually the leaches are only paying pennies on the dollar. Many just don’t pay, HUD doesn’t pay because the tenants did not pay, and the property owner has to do the eviction, such eviction sometimes taking months.
The quality of the tenants is the issue.
This was 30 years ago so I am not sure if the policy has changed. Friends in another neighborhood were livid along with their neighbors that a house was going to be section 8 and there was nothing they could do about it.
Quick check of the landing pages of cnn msnbc foxnews not one word or picture of the charlotte riots.
Daily Mail- “War zone in Charlotte: White man begs for mercy as he is beaten while a reporter is nearly dragged into a fire by rioters as people are told to stay home from work after police shooting of black father”
Granted it’s falling down the page, but THAT’s why I have Daily Mail open in a tab all day.
Oh, and ZeroHedge, 2nd story “The Charlotte Riots: What They Are Not Telling You”
F the msm.
n
So many micro-aggressions, so little time to arrange a safe space…
“cretins,” “leeches,” etc. My, my.
It would seem to your humble servant up here that the actual cretin would be the person who rented to these “tenants” in the first place. OTOH, the regime steps in and FORCES the landlord/owner to rent to them, so there’s that. I’d stay out of that line of work/investment accordingly. Or move somewhere where that’s not the case.
With or without Obola, Killary or Cheeto-Head, we may yet see the entrenched bureaucracy keep badgering away at moving FSA types into previously stable and quiet ‘hoods.
I gotta start doing what Mr. nick is doing; keep the Daily Mail and ZH open all day, either on the pooter or the phone or both, or the Kindle. The MSM here is utterly fucking worthless except as an object lesson and an illustration of human debasement.
I would think that this is an unfair taking of private property for public use without compensation
HUD is not taking your property, only that you rent to section 8 cretins. You are given fair market value for renting your property. The rental rate is not what the cretins pay, but what HUD pays. The cretins pay very little with HUD making up the difference. Usually the leaches are only paying pennies on the dollar. Many just don’t pay, HUD doesn’t pay because the tenants did not pay, and the property owner has to do the eviction, such eviction sometimes taking months.
If I cannot rent the house to my new best friend in San Antonio with cash money in hand then that is a taking of my property. Period.
Restricting my access to my property is the favorite thing to do by the Progressives. That way, they think, they do not have to pay me for it. But they can dictate all kinds of rules that I must follow. And, best of all, I still pay property taxes. And utility fees and taxes.
I dislike progressives. Please note that I am not using the word hate as Jesus would not like that.
BTW, when I rent property to my new best friend, we have a deal where he / she / they / it gives me cash for first month and deposit.
Xenos don’t scare me, but Xenu does
Xenu doesn’t scare me but Xena does.
Xenu doesn’t scare me but Xena does.
Xena. Mama!
If I cannot rent the house to my new best friend in San Antonio with cash money in hand then that is a taking of my property. Period.
Oh, you could. But if HUD had a lowlife scum cretin loser drug head welfare queen with eight kids by 27 different fathers that needed a place to loaf, and your property was available, HUD would rent it and let the herd of house apes move in. You could not stop the process. So if you wanted to rent to your best friend you did so without advertising the property for rent. If the property was advertised it was fair game.
Xena doesn’t scare me, but Zeno does. I tried to run away, but never quite reached safety.
BTW, I’ve been renting property out for almost 20 years now. 1990 to 2001 residential and 2011 to now commercial. I’ve never worried about credit reports or discrimination laws. I just discriminate against deadbeats.
My first tenant in 1990 wrote me two checks for the rent and deposit. And then he immediately drove to his bank and closed the account. I just stupidly put the checks into my checking account.
And then the bank called me and said the checks bounced. I called my father in law and he changed the locks on the front door for me as they had not moved in yet. The dude calls me and starts crying, yes really crying, that his business partner closed the account on him. But, he had two new checks for me. I told him that there was no way that I was taking another check from him and that I needed cash. He started crying again and said that he could not get the cash. And then he threatened me that I was evicting him without the 90 days notice. I told him that if he filed on me that I was going to take the checks that he wrote me to the district attorney for check fraud. That shut him up and that was the last we communicated.
So, I put the house back in the paper and my mother in law went through the barrage of phone calls again. In the end, I learned that the first months rent and deposit needed to be in cash. And the lesson cost me one months rent of $750 plus another ad in the Dallas Morning News ($50 ???). And another drive to Dallas to handle my new rent house tenant.
Sigh. Why are people so hard to deal with ?
I would scare Xena.
Composting class over for this week; learned some neat stuff. i.e., for your kitchen scraps, dump ’em in a regular ol’ brown paper shopping bag lined with a newspaper (NYT, WaPost, BoGlob) set in an aluminum pan (so as not get floor wet with leaking liquids). When full, run it out to your bin or tumbler. Or sooner in hot weather.
And Mrs. OFD is hoping and praying I get one of them full-time IT drone jobs again so she doesn’t have to do two gigs a month anymore. I agree. Just a few more years to get the taxes off our backs and give her a break. While I continue with the other revenue source possibilities and prep stuff anyway.
“Sigh. Why are people so hard to deal with ?”
Because we are fallen creatures, broken and riddled with sin and error. Some more so than others, obviously.
Oh, you could. But if HUD had a lowlife scum cretin loser drug head welfare queen with eight kids by 27 different fathers that needed a place to loaf, and your property was available, HUD would rent it and let the herd of house apes move in. You could not stop the process. So if you wanted to rent to your best friend you did so without advertising the property for rent. If the property was advertised it was fair game.
But if the lowlife scum cannot pay the first months rent and deposit in cash, they cannot rent my property. I do not take checks for our initial relationship. So I guess that I would be discriminating against all Section 8 applicants.
My father in law did that Section 8 thing on two of his rent houses. He told me what a great deal it was. And then we had to clean both rent houses of horrible messes. He never mentioned Section 8 to me again. He sold the rent house in Houston for a song, $23K. But I refused to go back there again for him after the first time.
Sigh. Why are people so hard to deal with ?
When we found a property manager for our house in Leavenworth, it was a great burden off of us. We’ve been with him 25 years, also. Every problem has been taken care of without our involvement with renters. The best renters, buy far, are Australian officers attending Command & Staff College at the fort. They stay for two years. I wish we could rent to them continuously.
Because we are fallen creatures, broken and riddled with sin and error. Some more so than others, obviously.
True, so very true.
Why are people so hard to deal with
I was subbing yesterday in an algebra math class. One student was not doing the work assigned by the teacher. I asked him why not as it was a required class and failure to complete the class he would not graduate. Without a diploma it would be tough to get a job. His response was that his parents did not have jobs and were doing just fine with the money from the government. He said there was no reason for him to get a job, why work when you can get what you want for free. He then put his head back down on his desk. I guess he went back to sleep.
But if the lowlife scum cannot pay the first months rent and deposit in cash
HUD pays you, with a check. The renters pay HUD. You never see money from the renters as I understand the system.
My father in law only has two rental properties now, a house in Abilene, TX and a duplex house in Garland, TX. He has property managers for both. The Abilene manager is a dream and has been watching the property like a hawk for 20 years. The property in Garland, yeesh ! That duplex was built in the 1920s. He has replaced the roof, all the windows, all the doors, all the plumbing, all of the wiring, etc over the last 25 years. I helped him put in a new furnace in one unit about ten years ago. My wife now has his power of attorney and has vowed to sell the duplex when he is not watching.
And Mrs. OFD is hoping and praying I get one of them full-time IT drone jobs again so she doesn’t have to do two gigs a month anymore. I agree. Just a few more years to get the taxes off our backs and give her a break. While I continue with the other revenue source possibilities and prep stuff anyway.
You do know that you lose your social security payment after a while ($13,000/year ???). It is a complicated mess. And they do not credit your new FICA payments or your not getting a check for a time.
I guess he went back to sleep.
This is what is exactly wrong with gooberment mandated education until 18 years of age. This kid should be in a cash register class preparing for Mickey D’s. At least make High School voluntary. What a waste of resources. K through 8th grade should be prep for low skill jobs. We need Voc/Tech/Apprentice alternatives for K-8 if you aren’t going to Uni.
Lynn wrote:
“And the lesson cost me one months rent of $750 plus another ad in the Dallas Morning News ($50 ???). And another drive to Dallas to handle my new rent house tenant.”
And the time and cost of having the locks re-keyed.
I’m determined not to get into property rental.
Nick wrote:
“Render them for their Soilent Green….”
There, FTFY.
Soylent. I’m not hyperliterate. Unless you are punning?
These comments are so full of hatey mc haters and aggressive microcosms…
where else could I learn words like rumpswap, dollymop, and wallyhog?
And then, to top it off, a math joke! Ah MrSteve, made my day….
nick
But if the lowlife scum cannot pay the first months rent and deposit in cash
HUD pays you, with a check. The renters pay HUD. You never see money from the renters as I understand the system.
HUD has no credit with me. I don’t take checks for that initial transaction.
How the heck did we get in this mess with HUD ? Is this why the federal government is in tune to borrow $1.3 trillion in fiscal 2016 ?
Where is HUD listed in the Constitution ? Where is “Small-Area Fair Market Rents” (SAFMR) listed in the Constitution ? What a freaking nightmare of rules !
https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/fmr/smallarea/index.html
It is going to take a full blown revolution to fix this nightmare.
Wait, does that mean I’m not a hatey mc hater? Dammit!
“He said there was no reason for him to get a job, why work when you can get what you want for free.”
And I guess he was right, to a point. I’d even give him that he’s not very likely to ever SEE algebra again, let alone use it anywhere; I certainly haven’t in half a century. But his fail is in not making the effort, not utilizing self-discipline and will-power, and being a lazy good-for-nuttin’ sloth and waste of oxygen. Sooner or later he WILL have to learn something, for his own survival, if nothing else, and you could point out to him that the gummint money ain’t gon last forever, not much longer, in fact, at all. What then, lazy boy? Hard to sleep through constant gunfire and explosions on an empty stomach. I know this personally.
“You do know that you lose your social security payment after a while ($13,000/year ???). It is a complicated mess. And they do not credit your new FICA payments or your not getting a check for a time.”
Yup. It’s the new full-time income (many times the SS, of course) versus the piddly SS, for however long I can keep it going full-time wherever, and I figure I’m good for another ten years, easy. If I get laid off again or otherwise dumped, I am figuring on making myself useful with IT skillz anyway, even during a SHTF. Networks and security always, regardless of o.s., plus electronics and commo.
I’m also figuring on the government endlessly screwing me in collusion with the banks and insurance companies anyway, no matter what I do or where I work. I hope to minimize that if I can.
“…words like rumpswap, dollymop, and wallyhog?”
It’s “rumpswab.” I stole it from the Boston Herald’s great Howie Carr long ago; he uses it mainly for MSM asswipes and useless bureaucrats.
“…a math joke! Ah MrSteve, made my day….”
Which even I, the recovering English major, got.
“Where is HUD listed in the Constitution ? Where is “Small-Area Fair Market Rents” (SAFMR) listed in the Constitution ?”
These are known as rhetorical questions, i.e, the answer is already well-known to the putative questioner.
“It is going to take a full blown revolution to fix this nightmare.”
A full-blown COUNTER-revolution, hermano. We need to take BACK, not overthrow and lay waste to. It was revolutionaries, i.e, progs, SJWs and the like who got us into this mess. They mostly need to be stood against a wall and shot, by the ten-thousands, and that ought to do the trick. Well, maybe hundred-thousands.
[snip] Castro last month threatened to sue suburban landlords for discrimination if they refuse even Section 8 tenants with criminal records. [snip]
I’d be interested to know just how much of Secretary Castro’s net worth is tied up in rental housing, and exactly how many section 8 clients there are within say 1 mile of his domicile.
A full-blown COUNTER-revolution, hermano. We need to take BACK, not overthrow and lay waste to. It was revolutionaries, i.e, progs, SJWs and the like who got us into this mess. They mostly need to be stood against a wall and shot, by the ten-thousands, and that ought to do the trick. Well, maybe hundred-thousands.
That is a very long wall.
Oh gosh, I am releasing version 15.02g of our software tonight.
I think that I see people coming down the office driveway with torches. And they are holding things. Wait, are those pitchforks …
“” …across the street from a section 8 house. It seems in San Antonio if you offer your house for rent you must accept HUD or are not allowed to rent. “”
Maybe 20 years ago I stuck up a For Sale sign in my yard. Only got one prospect, a woman of color, nice enough, with grandkids(?) in tow….
Tour of house, maybe discussed price to sell…
End of the interview, she said “Do you want to rent it?”
Did I dodge a bullet by saying, uh, no, like the sign says, I’d consider selling… ??
Would I have wound up homeless with my former home trashed for “free” rent ??
“”Quick check of the landing pages of cnn msnbc foxnews not one word or picture of the charlotte riots.””
These TV media have nothing but Charlotte riot video and commentary as of 23:30 Charlotte time.
So what’s going on: they’re not updating their web sites or deliberately keeping it off the sites, when on the tee-vee they have the advertising coming round every five minutes?
“I’d be interested to know just how much of Secretary Castro’s net worth is tied up in rental housing, and exactly how many section 8 clients there are within say 1 mile of his domicile.”
I’d be curious, too; nothing so much defines libturds and progs like him as rank hypocrisy, usually.
From the Unpleasant Comparisons Department:
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/09/22/quote-of-the-decade-9/
Not as blatant here, but then, they don’t need to be. All they really need to do is jack up prices and taxes, eliminate cash transactions, bring in wave after wave of undesirable immigrants, and if necessary, seize our bank accounts and property and make us unemployable anywhere and selectively distribute food and utilities.
If certain sectors of the pop become unruly and annoying, sure, they’ll make examples, like they’ll eventually get around to doing in the cities when the riots start breaking out again in multiple cities at the same time, as back in the Glorious Sixties.
And maybe start another world war, so they can offshore more hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of mostly young men.
“”So what’s going on: they’re not updating their web sites or deliberately keeping it off the sites, when on the tee-vee they have the advertising coming round every five minutes?””
Foxnews.com has Charlotte, approaching curfew…
Moments ago, MSNBC and CNN websites were about manslaughter charges against Tulsa cop.
Remind me to just skip the “breaking news” … It is so irrelevant to my immediate situation as to waste my time. Yeah, stuff rolls down hill, but meanwhile, I gotta get back to local issues.
And Drudge has stuff about last night in Charlotte at top of page…
and a timely headline from NYC about Charlotte…
rumpswaB, damn my fingers. damn them.
Still quite the colorful group of characters….
n
Kinda surprising, but kinda nice:
Actual protest, shouting… no noticeable violence?
This is what we are supposed to do…
This on CNN & MSNBC tee vee …
NOW I’m seeing live feeds and a couple of links, but there was NOTHING at all when I looked earlier.
Eh, if they want to burn the city, won’t hurt me none….
I’m off to bed.
n
Rumpswabs love to hang out with dollymops and wallyhogs.
Charlotte nooz at top of page for Sputnik News site; not appearing on either Times of India or Asia Times sites. Daily Mail has Charlotte right after the Brad Pitt plane kerfuffle; and of course ZH has it at the top, with a nice quote at the end:
“As Watson points out, if mobs of white supremacists were looting stores, setting fires, attacking journalists and shooting guns, would the media call it a protest?”
Just the usual libturd and prog hypocrisy writ large and now more of the Dirt People can see the Emperor has no clothes, so keep it up, assholes, keep it up.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/response-rioting-black-thugs-criminals-murderers-charlotte-last-night/
I doubt very seriously that all is sweetness and light, all over Charlotte (or wherever) but it does appear that there’s some progress being made in just expressing opinions without (literally) throwing bricks.
Wouldn’t it be nice?
Too old and tired to bet on it myself. Gotta keep trying to duck and cover…
OFD’s neighbor says that all Trump has to do to win the debate is show up:
http://wnd.com/2016/09/how-trump-wins-the-debate/
Patrick ain’t my neighbor but he’s been to NH a few times and his web site’s longtime manager’s brother is a LEO up here. Patrick lives in a nice area of Mordor but remembers when life was simpler, more stable, and orderly. As do many of us here.
There’s been some speculation that some event or incident or “health issue” will keep Killary away from at least that first “debate,” and meanwhile we have pictorial evidence that it wasn’t so long ago both Klintons were very good friends with Mr. and Mrs. Trump, who sat them in the front row at their wedding, where Mr. Trump’s deceased parents would have sat.
Regarding Coleman stoves…
Tentatively, I’d suggest the current model Coleman Dual Fuel 533, which has the same burner as my rather old 4 4 2 stove [ which does not seem to have any link to Oldsmobile ] …
The large tank of the 533 adds a lot of weight to the stove, I’m sure, but it still might work out lighter overall versus an extra fuel bottle. Another advantage is that that tank is probably big enough for as much as a week’s cooking… avoiding fuel handling for a longer time frame, if nothing else.
Coleman 533 has $100 list price. Seems like there’s an older similar version, with that good burner and a large tank. The small tank versions are good stuff, too, cooking hot, but requiring re-fueling about every 3 to 5 days for normal camp use (at least in my campsite, where we cook on wood or charcoal quite a bit).
Coleman fuel, rather than automotive gas, seems to store much better, but it’s quite expensive.
You do know that you lose your social security payment after a while
I thought they just reduced your payments, not completely stopped the payments. Only applies if your less than your full retirement age (66 for me). Once you reach full age you can earn as much as you want without any reduction.
“This is what is exactly wrong with gooberment mandated education until 18 years of age.”
I had the benefit of a rigourous education. Anytime a pupil found it too rigourous, the teachers would remind us that we were legally obliged to attend school until our fifteenth birthday and not a day longer, so anybody who wanted to leave was free to do so. Nobody did, but a few probably ought to have…
“The UK Hooligans are surprisingly stupid.”
And the UK police are surprisingly ineffectual in dealing with them.
The old joke about a Brit cop in pursuit of a fleeing felon is that he yells, “Stop or I’ll cry stop again!”
@Lynn – re: section 8
When I first got into rentals I listened to some poor advice. “Rent to section 8, the government never pays late”. We had to spend some money to bring the place up to government standards before we could rent to someone on assistance. Our first section 8 renter, a woman with her teen son. Got a call that the toilet had overflowed. Went to check, discovered someone had tried to flush a disposable diaper and just kept flushing and flushing pouring crap all over the floors. Also found 6 people living in the house, bedroom doors were smashed, Sheetrock riddled. I started eviction process the next day. Then discovered that the woman I had leased to was in jail for drug dealing. SIGH … We did use this as an opportunity to replace the carpets with tile and NEVER to rent to scum again. Have been very lucky with tenants since then. Maybe “luck” isn’t the right word. We vet each one VERY thoroughly.
Friend of a friend is a doctor. His retirement plan is section 8 rentals. He’s been buying crapshacks in distressed neighborhoods for years. I don’t know how many he has, but it’s a bunch. I don’t know how he deals with it. He did say the checks come regular, and if the place gets trashed the fed pays, so I don’t know if that changed, or he was mistaken. Been years since I talked to him about it.
I wouldn’t do it.
I will be buying commercial to rent before I buy more residential. My commercial landlord just cruises thru life on the commercial side, but he has every day hassles with his apartment units. He said his dad told him never to own anything that needs to be fed or that has bathrooms. He regrets not taking the advice.
nick
“I thought they just reduced your payments, not completely stopped the payments.”
That is my understanding, also; Mr. Lynn had it right earlier, IIRC. If we make more than what SS is paying us, there is some formula for REDUCING the SS payments, until, theoretically, they’re not paying us at all, depending. I may get to see how that works out in practice soon; more interviews being scheduled today for IT drone gigs up here again. But I’ve been through this before and am simply doing due diligence and making Mrs. OFD happy.