Sunday, 18 September 2016

09:20 – I called Barbara first thing this morning to make sure she knew about the Colonial Pipeline break, that the governors of Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee had declared states of emergency, and that South and North Carolina may not be far from doing so. According to Google, it’s 532.1 miles from Cape May, New Jersey to Sparta, North Carolina using the most direct I-81 route. That’s more than she can get on a tank of gasoline, even driving at the most efficient speed. I suggested she fill up her tank today. I didn’t suggest that she buy a 5-gallon gas can or two and fill them as well, although I probably should have. There’s no good estimate on how long it’ll take Colonial to get the pipeline running again, but they’re building a bypass so it’ll probably be at least 10 days or two weeks if they work around the clock on it. As it stands, the East Coast has lost something like 50 or 60 million gallons a day of gasoline, which is a significant portion of the supply to the East Coast from Georgia up to New York City. I checked my Trooper, which has 4.7 miles on the trip odometer since the last fill-up.

I decided to re-watch Jericho while Barbara’s away. I notice new stuff all the time. For example, I hadn’t realized until last night that there are mountains or at least foothills right outside Jericho, Kansas. Until now, I thought of Kansas as flat. If I didn’t know the series was set in Kansas, I’d almost think they’d shot that footage outside Los Angeles.

Colin and I ate dinner from long-term storage last night: peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. As still more evidence on the mythical nature of best-by dates, the jar of peanut butter I used had a best-by date in March of 2013, 3.5 years ago. It was opened 18 months ago, and has been sitting on the pantry shelf since then. The odor and taste are indistinguishable from a fresh jar just opened. I’ll keep what remains in this old jar for further testing months or years from now, but I think it’s safe to say that the real shelf life of a jar of Jif Creamy peanut butter is at least five years, and probably a lot longer. At about $1.50 per pound, it’s a good shelf-stable way to store both oils and proteins that supplement grain proteins. Oh, the Welch’s Grape Jelly I used had a best-by date about a year and a half ago, and has been sitting open in the refrigerator at least that long. It was fine as well.

Bombings in New Jersey and New York City, a musloid slasher at a Minnesota mall, a cop ambush and mass shooting in Philadelphia. No word on just what caused the pipeline break. Things may be ramping up for the election. Historically, Committees of Vigilance arise when the government can’t (or won’t) protect citizens. I hope that never happens in the US, but I’m afraid it might.





81 Comments and discussion on "Sunday, 18 September 2016"

  1. Dave says:

    There’s no good estimate on how long it’ll take Colonial to get the pipeline running again, but they’re building a bypass so it’ll probably be at least 10 days or two weeks if they work around the clock on it.

    Another good reason that you should never let your tank get below a quarter of a tank, and why refilling at half a tank might be a better idea. I had considered in an emergency we might have to leave, and wouldn’t want to be caught in line with everyone else running on fumes. I didn’t consider that the gas station might be out of gas.

  2. Dave Hardy says:

    “I didn’t consider that the gas station might be out of gas.”

    And a nice one-two punch would have the ATMs and EBT cards down, too.

    “Things may be ramping up for the election. Historically, Committees of Vigilance arise when the government can’t (or won’t) protect citizens.”

    Hard to tell what is genuine and what might be staged these days; cui bono, as always? And while most of these incidents seem to be taking place in the big cities and warmer climate zones, they can also affect life way up here, such as this pipeline thing.

  3. dkreck says:

    NYC mayor and NY governor falling all over making very sure not to blame terrorism, aka mooooslims. Planning to ban pressure cookers.
    MN attacker made it clear who he was. Authorities still aren’t sure if it was terror. Please……

  4. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I also wonder how long it’ll be before gasoline starts coming out the end of the repaired pipeline. IIRC, it takes several days for fuel that goes into the pipeline in Texas to make it up to that gigantic tank farm in Greensboro.

    Obviously, I want Barbara to make it home safely next week, but I kinda hope she has at least a little bit of hassle getting fuel. Enough to put in her mind that even though this was just a fairly minor emergency, it shows just how fragile our systems are.

  5. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Kinda reminds me of a police report I read that was written in the early 20th century, when cops tried not to call rape rape because it was shameful for a woman to be raped. The report said that a woman had been accosted in an alley, punched about the head, and dragged by the feet down a flight of concrete steps. The report concluded, “Then he assaulted her.”

  6. Dave Hardy says:

    Language is wicked important and our rulers know this full well; many, if not most of them are lawyers and they’ve learned a long time ago how to rewire their brains and manipulate language to whatever ends they wish.

    A basic and still relevant text for this stuff is Orwell’s “Politics and the English Language,” written ages ago.

    http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/

  7. nick says:

    So I’ve been getting this open distribution FEMA Daily Ops Brief for some time. The summary is in the email, but the meat is in the PDF.

    I believe it’s meant primarily to let EM know what FEMA is doing and not as a sitrep, but it’s bloody useless.

    “FEMA Daily Operations Brief for Sunday, September 18, 2016

    Significant Events: None

    Tropical Activity:

    Atlantic – Tropical Depression Julia, Tropical Storm Karl, Disturbance 1: High (70%)
    Eastern Pacific – Tropical Storm Paine
    Central Pacific – No tropical cyclones are expected through Monday morning
    Western Pacific – No activity affecting U.S. interests

    Significant Weather:

    Red Flag Warnings – WY, NE & CO
    Space Weather – None observed for past 24 hours; none predicted next 24 hours

    Earthquake Activity: No significant activity

    Declaration Activity: None”

    The space weather has been wrong every single day but one.

    The significant events “none” – completely useless. If knife and cleaver attacks, pipeline breaks, and 2 freaking bombs in the same region in 2 days aren’t significant I don’t know what is. This also lagged by several days before the CA wildfires were listed. Tens of thousands evacuated and still “none”.

    I hope no one depends on this POS to give them critical info.

    nick

  8. Dave Hardy says:

    “I hope no one depends on this POS to give them critical info.”

    What genuine interest would this Fed organization have in distributing accurate and timely information to us Deplorable Dirt People, or DDP’s?

    Also reminds me of all the alleged terror events that the Feds intercepted and stopped in time but which they can’t tell us about because “national security.”

    More and more peeps will come to see that their Emperor has no clothes.

  9. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    What, you’re expecting the federal government to tell us what’s really going on? The two least honest organizations in the US are government and media. You can tell they’re lying whenever their lips are moving.

    At least the media mentioned the events you cited. The question, as always, is how much they know that they’re not telling us. I’m no expert on pipelines, but I wonder if this “accident” is in fact another attack. Spilling something like a third of a million gallons of gasoline seems a bit careless. Maybe someone who knows about pipelines will comment.

  10. MrAtoz says:

    Palate cleanser for Dr. Bob on this gasless day:

    The size of babies’ heads at birth is strongly linked to their future success, with larger head circumferences and brain volume associated with higher intelligence, scientists have found.

  11. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Yeah, well, the depressing thing is that the brain volumes of H. sapiens neanderthalensis was considerably larger than H. sapiens sapiens. They were smarter than we are, but I guess we were meaner.

    For me, the takeaway is that it’s not enough to be very smart; one has to be very mean as well.

  12. Dave says:

    It seems odd to ask this question in an Internet connected world, but where does one get useful information, like news of the pipeline break without having to sort through all the crap news stories about Kanye West or his mother in law?

  13. Dave says:

    It seems odd to ask this question in an Internet connected world, but where does one get useful information, like news of the pipeline break without having to sort through all the crap news stories about Kanye West or his mother in law?

    Case in point, the pipeline leak was discovered 9 days ago, and I just read about it on a blog for the first time.

  14. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Especially since it took the MSM a full week to report the pipeline break.

  15. Dave says:

    Especially since it took the MSM a full week to report the pipeline break.

    Well, they never told us about the natural gas outages in rural New Mexico.

  16. dkreck says:

    Several sources tried to make the emergency declarations sound like they were over environmental concerns not fuel shortages. Very fortunate the spill was actually contained but with the protests over the pipeline on Indian land the hucksters were working overtime. (is Indian land sacred unless a casino is needed? – well that should get me in trouble)

  17. MrAtoz says:

    (is Indian land sacred unless a casino is needed? – well that should get me in trouble)

    Macroaggression, you rayciss!!!!!!!

  18. Dave Hardy says:

    The pipeline deal COULD have been a genuine accident or even a terror caper, but they sat on it pretty much for over a week while the higher-level bonzes crafted a good spin on it for maximum consumption the way the regime wants it told. So now we have pending shortages and a bit of potential mayhem. Oh my, disorder and unruly deplorables! Ratchet up the law enforcement and security stuff.

  19. Dave Hardy says:

    “Get your stuff straight. Go meet your neighbors today, at a minimum, or have a meal at the local greasy spoon. Read the flyers on the billboard or taped to the door. Get involved with the local Church congregation. Start meeting the wheels of your community and figure out how to contribute. Build networks. Figure out how they stay in the loop independent of conventional means, and get into the chain. Bum around the flea market or go to a fall gathering in town (every small rural town has one). Go shop at the local hardware store, even if he’s more expensive than Lowes. You’re paying for more than a product. I promise you it will get you a lot farther than just retreating and writing everyone off as some are so fond of telling you to do. It’s about to get more ‘interesting.'”

    https://brushbeater.wordpress.com/2016/09/18/pressure-bursting-a-pipe-and-other-thoughts/

  20. nick says:

    @dave, it’s been discussed before, but there is no easy answer.

    I avoid the major internet sites, like drudge or instapundit.

    I like http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/ for political news, or news that will affect politics. He also had some of the best coverage of Ferguson.

    [bias- not a bias but his links never work and his formatting for twitter is redundant]

    ZeroHedge.com went from fringe to being called out in a WSJ article. They are doom and gloom (because this is a doom and gloom time) but too often they are right. When I still read mainstream news, stuff from zh would show up there weeks to months later. ZH has a focus on money and politics.

    [bias- keep running articles that fit their worldview, Simon Black for one. “move away, buy gold, keep it in a foreign shithole”]

    bloomberg.com despite being owned by a despicable statist has good info, usually months after ZH reported it, and you have to know how to read bloomberg. Read the headline to find the subject and the MSM spin, then skim to the end couple of paragraphs where they put the “CYA” actual truth. Often the last paragraphs will flatly contradict the headline.

    [bias- aimed at 5% and up, pointless articles about high end watches and cars that literally 3 people in the world can afford. M Bloomberg’s political bias is present but slight compared to others. ALWAYS read the end of an article. ]

    UK Daily Mail is the GOTO source for a large percentage of the clued in american right. They are a tabloid and are not beholden to the US power structure like most of the MSM. They will break news if it is sensational, and report stories that the US press won’t touch. Also, since they are apparently written by interns, they don’t have the incestuous relationship with power among ‘senior’ reporters. They are serious news in that they are included in the candidates’ press pools, where they are sometimes the only ones to ask real questions.

    [bias- they hate disney and will stretch anything they can to make disney look bad. They love big-assed loudmouths. Love the words ‘shocking’ ‘horror’ and ‘pert’. Lots of pix of pretty women you’ve never heard of. They hate guns, but often report neutrally on successful defensive gun use. They are beginning to use ‘gang violence’ in place of the ubiquitous ‘gun violence.’ ]

    Financial Times- unfortunately it’s behind a paywall. Kind of a pain to use the ‘google workaround’ but well written stories with a lot more depth than US media.

    [bias- Euro money and politics]

    There are other more ‘fringe’ sites but I keep Gateway Pundit, Daily Mail, and ZeroHedge open in windows all the time. That’s enough to give broad coverage.

    What’s missing– any kind of local coverage. I rely on my wife and her FB neighborhood groups to bring me anything hyperlocal, and she reads the local fishwrap so that will get anything likely to affect us that doesn’t get picked up by the Daily Mail.

    no way around it, you need to cast your net widely and filter the results through your own brain.

    nick

    added- the other thing I like about the Daily Mail is that they follow up and report the OUTCOME of their stories. This lets them exploit the story twice but it also gives good info. They are the only site to do this consistently that I know of. (ie. they report a guy found keeping slaves in his house. 3 months later they report on his trial. 3 months later they report that he’s been killed in prison.)

  21. Dave says:

    The pipeline deal COULD have been a genuine accident or even a terror caper, but they sat on it pretty much for over a week while the higher-level bonzes crafted a good spin on it for maximum consumption the way the regime wants it told. So now we have pending shortages and a bit of potential mayhem. Oh my, disorder and unruly deplorables! Ratchet up the law enforcement and security stuff.

    I fear the media and our government overlords may be so stupid they didn’t understand that the simple breaking of one pipe is a major disaster. My question is does this just affect the gasoline pipeline or is the pipe that carries the other petroleum distillates affected as well?

  22. nick says:

    “Go meet your neighbors today, at a minimum, or have a meal at the local greasy spoon”

    While this is certainly preferable and has many benefits (esp postSHTF) you can do the info gathering in most places with FB or NextDoor, and the local neighborhood groups.

    n

  23. nick says:

    Aesop over at http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/

    posted a link to this little jewel:

    http://www.staffshomeguard.co.uk/J16-87Guerilla.htm

    Courtesy of a lovely little historical website detailing the training for the British Home Guard, should the Nazis invade, we pass along a couple of absolute informational gems:

    A good way of effecting dislocation and interruption of enemy troops is, if you know that they are temporarily resident in a town or a village, to put up some notices stating that the whole population is to report to any public office at some specific time, as there is to be a distribution of free food, etc. etc. You will soon find that a temporary panic amongst the enemy will ensue as they see the whole town or village converging on one spot. This is an ideal time to do any sabotage that may be required.

    Of course, by no means should this be undertaken nowadays, with any sort of similar or updated subterfuge, targeting the Free Shit Army, or their gubmint enablers, on agency letterhead. That would be naughty and baaaaaad. So don’t do that.

    And always keep this fundamental rule in mind:

    The main intent of a guerrilla band is the destruction and hindrance of enemy communications and supplies, and not the capturing of any specific objectives. Therefore the more the enemy is harried the more good the final result will be.

    Harried.
    An excellent and underutilized piece of vocabulary.

    Perhaps it’s time to bring it back into fashion.

    nick

  24. dkreck says:

    Colonial operates two parallel pipelines through Alabama: Line 1, normally used for gasoline; and Line 2, normally used for distillate products like diesel fuel, jet fuel, and home heating oil.

    Both lines are operating in west Alabama, meaning that part of the state could have easier access to gasoline than places north and east of the leak. Line 1 is taking limited shipments of gasoline from Houston to west Alabama, but stopping before the leak site in Shelby County.

    Line 2 is now alternating between its usual distillate products and regular gasoline from Houston to Atlanta. Colonial would not say how much gasoline is making it through the detour system to points in Atlanta and beyond.

    From Atlanta, Colonial operates seven “stublines,” or shorter pipelines that transport gasoline to places like south Georgia, Nashville and Knoxville. Those appear to be areas experiencing the most outages.

    http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/09/how_alabama_pipeline_leak_led.html

  25. Ray Thompson says:

    The pipeline deal COULD have been a genuine accident or even a terror caper, but they sat on it pretty much for over a week

    Stories I have read indicate they did not discover the leak for a week. It is a major pipeline (30 inches) moving gasoline from Houston refineries up to the northeast with stops in many of the southern states.

    I have not seen any stations out of fuel in my area although Knoxville did report some high volume stations had run out. Some ran out of everything but premium. (My take on that is that they still had the other stuff but were using the shortage as an excuse to get drivers to buy the expensive, and higher profit, stuff).

    When news of the break hit the media all the stations in the are immediately jumped their prices $0.20 a gallon even though what was in their tanks was bought at the lower price. The major distributor (there is only one in the area) jumped their prices immediately on existing stock. The gasoline is not more expensive in the pipe, they are just using the event to charge more.

    Event is supposed to last a week and prices are supposed to come down. Of course that drop in price will take about a month because, as the supplier puts it, the more expensive fuel is still being delivered. Bullshit! The distributor never paid any more for the fuel during the shortage than before or after.

    I suggested she fill up her tank today. I didn’t suggest that she buy a 5-gallon gas can or two and fill them as well

    That is exceedingly dangerous to carry fuel inside of a vehicle. Very bad things can happen.

    I would not be concerned about getting fuel. When she gets to half a tank stop at the next place and fill up. There will be fuel, it will just be a little more expensive (about 10% to 20%).

    I notice from the maps that Mordor will be affected. Want to take bets that none of the self anointed elites will suffer from any of this and will have all the fuel they want.

  26. nick says:

    currently 99F in my driveway. Feels like=112 with RH of 56%. I’ll note that the air can hold a LOT of water at 99F.

    I’m literally hung over from my outdoor work yesterday. Headache and all. This despite drinking water and taking salt replacement tabs.

    sucks to get old.

    n

  27. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Re: reliable news

    Perhaps we need a new news agency or two. I even have names to suggest: Associated Deplorables and United Deplorables International.

  28. nick says:

    up to 104F in the driveway. Cooler in the shade but still way freakin hot.

    n

    Working on some minor plumbing, using my vaguely remembered chemistry.

    Using vinegar to dissolve calcium buildup in a valve…..

  29. Dave says:

    Perhaps we need a new news agency or two. I even have names to suggest: Associated Deplorables and United Deplorables International.

    I would register the domain names for one or both, and start linking to the articles like the Daily Mail that are telling it like it is. Except that I would render myself unemployable.

  30. Spook says:

    No matter the bias, it would hard to match the large size and global coverage of any of the major news services.
    I think one just needs to read as much as possible and sort it out for oneself.

  31. MrAtoz says:

    I think one just needs to read as much as possible and sort it out for oneself.

    +1

    I like Drudge, but you have to drill down to the article. That and DM covers most of the big headlines.

  32. Dave Hardy says:

    From the Past Week’s Insanity Department:

    http://takimag.com/article/the_week_that_perished_takimag_september_18_2016/print#axzz4KcZSqMMv

    Taki’s site is mostly concerned with cultural shenanigans but the comments section is a laugh-and-a-half to read most days. Buncha rayciss haters, of course.

  33. MrAtoz says:

    Geez. That video of Coffin Cankles on her plane talking about the bombings is telling. She looks like she just had a Big Gulp full of szzurp. I thought she was going to pass out. She managed to get a tRump sucks in there, but should have just said “Yum, this szzurp is goooood. Going nite nite now.”

  34. nick says:

    Yeah, watch the videos by the doc on aesops blog, he calmly and succinctly lays out the case for late stage parkinsons.

    n

  35. Dave Hardy says:

    Indeed. Late-stage Parkinson’s. And they’re floating various ideas about who to throw in if she has to bail out now; first up was Moochelle, lol. Now it’s Bernie again. All Cheeto-Head has to do is start acting like a statesman, keep his gob shut most of the time, and let them murder themselves. But I doubt he can do it, and he still has to throw out some red meat from time to time.

    Seven weeks.

    Mrs. OFD is waiting for nooz concerning the hurricane on an allegedly direct path for the Carolinas, where she has her gig this week. I told her to keep her rental car’s tank filled and stock up on food and water at her accommodations.

  36. Dave says:

    Historically, Committees of Vigilance arise when the government can’t (or won’t) protect citizens. I hope that never happens in the US, but I’m afraid it might.

    I also hope it doesn’t come to that, but clearly some people forget that one of the important things police do is protect suspects (guilty or innocent) from the public. I think rapists and murderers are vile despicable people who should be executed, but I also think they deserve a fair trial first.

  37. Dave says:

    Reading Wikipedia about the Colonial Pipeline leak makes me wonder if it could have happened at the worst possible time. The EPA requires changes to make gasoline more “environmentally friendly” in summer. I wonder if the storage facilities on the East Coast were planning on the availability of cheaper gasoline after September 15th, so didn’t have full storage tanks.

  38. nick says:

    I’m gonna say accident or deferred maintenance only because there isn’t a fire.

    n

    and the EPA waived the summer gas requirement so they could bring in gas from other regions. How nice of them.

  39. MrAtoz says:

    Coffin’s staff is also pushing the narrative of “she doesn’t drink enough water”, “we’re scared because she gets dehydrated”, etc. What a crock of shit. I hope they put a giant staircase up for the debates. They’ll probably lower her in like Peter Pan.

  40. Spook says:

    “”Mrs. OFD is waiting for nooz concerning the hurricane on an allegedly direct path for the Carolinas, where she has her gig this week. I told her to keep her rental car’s tank filled and stock up on food and water at her accommodations.””

    My impression is that a hurricane is a slow-enough-moving train wreck that you can just bug out away from if you are in the likely path (plus or minus 50 or 100 miles).
    If you live there, or otherwise have non-portable assets, it’s an issue. For a non-resident, it’s just about canceling the vacation or business trip and moving along, quite a ways in advance.
    Or… just sit tight, wait until the last minute, and try to buy milk, eggs, and white bread…

  41. Dave Hardy says:

    “Coffin’s staff is also pushing the narrative of “she doesn’t drink enough water”, “we’re scared because she gets dehydrated”, etc.”

    Well, she’s drinking SOMETHING, if it ain’t water. Well-known that she’s an alcoholic, while Larry is a coke-fiend.

    Watched most of “60 Minutes” earlier; hadn’t seen it in ages; they had a bit on the U.S.S. Kentucky nuke sub and our overall “strategic command” operations, presumably letting us AND the Russians and Chicoms know we can allegedly wipe out civilization.

    Question for you science peeps: The sub commander said that they tote 30 warheads and each one is roughly 30 times more powerful than the one that leveled Hiroshima. Then a former DefSec said that there are 1,000 “active” warheads ready to go at any given time. He claimed it wouldn’t even take that many to destroy “civilization.”

    So each of these subs could deliver about 900 Hiroshimas around the world; yeah, I guess that would do it. Pick the 900 biggest cities and military bases. Then multiply the number of subs and add the ICBMs, etc. And that’s just US.

    I guess if we had a nuke war with the Russians and Chicoms, that would pretty much wipe out the northern hemisphere. Places to survive might be South America, southern half of Africa, Oz, and Antarctica, but how long would survivors last down there?

    The show had an admiral on there, some colonels, etc. One big blonde girl Lt. Col. pronounced “nuclear” as “nook-u-lar,” just like Shrub used to do.

    I assume this is mostly agitprop and lies, of course.

    And I feel much better now that the next President Clinton will be a reliable and stable CINC with her fingers on the buttons….

    Scenario: Prince Vlad says bad things about Killary and reveals more emails and financial felonies.

    CINC Clinton: “Launch.”

    Admiral: “But M’am we don’t have any viable threats from them.”

    CINC Clinton: “Launch, damn it! You fucking assholes better start obeying MY orders!”

    Admiral: “Yes, M’am.”

  42. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Because for some reason everyone apparently eats lots of French Toast during weather emergencies.

  43. Dave Hardy says:

    “Or… just sit tight, wait until the last minute, and try to buy milk, eggs, and white bread…”

    She’ll do a version of that, while keeping an eye on events and also listening to what the conference derps and her employers do/say about it. She might buy milk but she’s not big on eggs or white bread. Probably salad stuff, soups, veggies, maybe some chicken. I, on the other hand, would load up like there’s no tomorrow on meats, fish, turkey rather than chicken, rice and beans.

  44. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Thirty times the yield does not equal thirty times the destruction because the larger the yield the more the central area is “overdestroyed”. Thus the concept of equivalent megatons, where EMT = yield^(2/3).

    Also, the amount of fallout is hugely greater with a groundburst, such is used against silos and other hardened targets. Cities and other soft targets are attacked with airbursts, which maximize the radius of total destruction but generate very little fallout.

  45. Spook says:

    “”Also, the amount of fallout is hugely greater with a groundburst, such is used against silos and other hardened targets. Cities and other soft targets are attacked with airbursts, which maximize the radius of total destruction but generate very little fallout.””

    I guess you are assuming that there will be some sort of “rational” input into targeting and how to burst, after the first two or three go off…

    Thanks guys. I’m under my desk shaking, same as in 1960 or so!

  46. MrAtoz says:

    Vegas is impervious to nuclear weapons because the Devil protects us.

  47. Spook says:

    “”Vegas is impervious to nuclear weapons because the Devil protects us.””

    Stephen King’s “The Stand” has a major demon nuked in Vegas.

  48. Dave Hardy says:

    Thanks to RBT for nookular elaboration and clarification. It would suck pretty badly.

    I don’t believe that demons can be eliminated by nookular weapons.

  49. Dave Hardy says:

    From the Gotta Love New Yawkers Department:

    “I was walking around #Chelsea along w/other #NYC ers post explosion & NO ONE was panicking. It’s Saturday we deserve to be able to party.”

    That’s right, homes; the important chit in life, amirite?

  50. Minnesota Dave says:

    Minnesota Dave is not happy! St Cloud is around 100 miles south of here and we go to a mall in a city only a little bigger. I was hoping this crap was going to stay down near Minneapolis with the plentitudes of easy targets. I’m happy someone was around with a gun to shoot the bugger.
    My only fear is the shooter will be prosecuted for a weapon in a weapon free zone, which has happened in Minnesota.

  51. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] For me, the takeaway is that it’s not enough to be very smart; one has to be very mean as well. [snip]

    Or at least willing to be very very mean / violent when & if the situation calls for it.

  52. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] The sub commander said that they tote 30 warheads and each one is roughly 30 times more powerful than the one that leveled Hiroshima. [snip]

    USS Kentucky is a conversion to the SSGN class; the original USS Ohio SSBN specs were 24 missiles x 8 warheards / tube = 192 bombs. Each of which could be sent to a different target, within reason, and I don’t think many people doubt the accuracy of our strategic missiles.

    [snip] One big blonde girl Lt. Col. pronounced “nuclear” as “nook-u-lar,” just like Shrub used to do. [snip]

    Let’s not forget the idiot whoremonger JFK.

    [snip] Also, the amount of fallout is hugely greater with a groundburst, such is used against silos and other hardened targets. [snip]

    It seems to me that if someone really wants to enhance the fallout, targeting an active nuclear power plant would get some really nasty results.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio-class_submarine

  53. Dave Hardy says:

    “Let’s not forget the idiot whoremonger JFK.”

    Oh man, that statement might get ya murderized in eastern MA, even these days. So many households had his pic on their walls alongside Richard Cardinal Cushing and Pope John XXIII. Saint Jack. But you’re right and I approve! His brothers and other relatives were not much better.

  54. Dave Hardy says:

    And the Sunday Night Comedy Department:

    https://earloftaint.com/2016/09/18/breaking-dumpster-fire-reported-in-chappaqua-ny/

    Now, can’t some enterprising tramp or drunk in the vicinity throw that other fugly old bag into the fire, too? Probably go up like a torch, soaked in alcohol and lawdy knows what else.

  55. Spook says:

    Fah from Massa-tu-setts, I feel mostly that JFK was saintly, in some sort of sorta pagan definition of that that might work better for me. I think I understand correctly that he worked it out with Khruschev, at least that one time, not to destroy the planet.

    “Come on Nikita, old boy. Put your shoe back on.”

  56. Dave Hardy says:

    Yeah, he worked it out wid Nikki, alright; put missiles in Turkey and the Soviets probably kept a few back in Cuber. MAD, you see, utter MADness. I remember when that caper went down (was just a kid); peeps in eastern MA were plenty nervous but breathed a yuuuuuuge sigh of relief when Saint Jack stood up to the bastard commies and a nookular conflagration was thus averted.

    The shoe-banging incident allegedly occurred at the UN and neither Saint Jack nor Tricky Dicky were present.

  57. Spook says:

    “”The shoe-banging incident allegedly occurred at the UN and neither Saint Jack nor Tricky Dicky were present.””

    I have seen pics… but yeah, separate from Cuba Crisis.

  58. lynn says:

    Good day today. Drove down to Port Lavaca to be with Dad for his 78th birthday. Got to watch him preach at church (good Jesus lesson for the former OU professor). Bought him and Mom lunch at Bayside Restaurant with the wife. And we watched the Texans beat up Kansas City Chiefs on the tv. Good times, good times.

  59. Spook says:

    A true patriot does what it takes to stand down a confrontation that might destroy his nation (without selling out his nation) and my impression is that Khruschev did that pretty well (probably with some sneaky stuff on the side, as in a stash still in Cuba)…

    Of course, ol’ Nikita paid the price, I gather, for doing the the right thing.

  60. lynn says:

    Oh man, that statement might get ya murderized in eastern MA, even these days. So many households had his pic on their walls alongside Richard Cardinal Cushing and Pope John XXIII. Saint Jack. But you’re right and I approve! His brothers and other relatives were not much better.

    I’ve got a picture of Mom, Dad, and me with Bobby Kennedy standing on the airport runway in College Station in March ??? of 1960. Some guy brought Bobby Kennedy up from Houston in a Cessna to give a speech to 2,000 Aggies. I am T minus three months and very warm inside Mom (she looks cold). Dad was the head of “great event speakers” or something along those lines and picked him up in his ’48 Dodge. Nothing but the best for Kennedys!

  61. Miles_Teg says:

    Dave Hardy wrote:

    “His brothers and other relatives were not much better.”

    Surely Teddy was worse, by a long way.

  62. nick says:

    Before going to bed, there’s a whole lot going on with bombs.

    NYC has now five bombs found, and 5 guys and an SUV “full of weapons” taken into custody.

    Meanwhile in Elizabeth NJ bombs found at a train station, and one explosion, probably NOT controlled.

    And the race thing has fallen way down the page as the other stuff gets coverage.

    nick

  63. Miles_Teg says:

    “Richard Cardinal Cushing”

    He adored Leonard Feeney, who said you had to be a good Catholic to go to heaven, and after he died Teddy K spoke very highly of him. Two very large black marks against Cushing IMHO.

    “John XXIII”

    Not a bad bloke at all. Unlike most Bishops of Rome he was probably a true Christian. How on earth did he become Pope?

  64. Dave says:

    Surely Teddy was worse, by a long way.

    Teddy was fairly typical of the family. They all have a common history, Teddy just had one event that stands out.

  65. Dave says:

    So an off duty cop shoots a Muslim in a shopping mall because he stabbed nine people, police are seeking a bombing suspect who is a naturalized citizen from Afghanistan, and no government official can say Islamic terrorism.

  66. nick says:

    Because they’re all gutless worms.

  67. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Death to islam!

  68. nick says:

    Bombs at the 5k race, bombs in NYC, bombs in Elizabeth NJ

  69. MrAtoz says:

    Are we talking about Teddy K’s drunk driving murder or his unending gift of the worse immigrants in the world?

    Death to Teddy Kennedy? Oh, wait…

  70. Dave Hardy says:

    With the exception of the Minnesota caper (which was in a mall full of people, after all, thus CROWDS), the incidents have once AGAIN been concentrated in the NYC/NJ area.

    Here’s a dumbass rhetorical question: Do the city, state or Fed “authorities” have ANY definite info on how many musloids have swarmed into that area since 9/11, for example, let alone how many of them are potential active terrorists???

    “…Leonard Feeney, who said you had to be a good Catholic to go to heaven…”

    extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

    (except for those innocent of the knowledge of salvation; if one knows, but refuses, then nulla salus)

    See Lumen Gentium and Gaudium et Spes.

  71. ech says:

    (My take on that is that they still had the other stuff but were using the shortage as an excuse to get drivers to buy the expensive, and higher profit, stuff).

    Probably not. Gas station tanks aren’t that big. They need JIT delivery or they run out quickly. If a buying spree starts due to a weather event or a threatened shortage, it takes very little time to exhaust supplies at stations. A reasonable estimate is that on average gas tanks are half full, so take the number of cars out there and figure 10 gallons each. A gas station has about 20k gallons of regular if they keep it full, so they can service 2k cars before empty.

    When news of the break hit the media all the stations in the are immediately jumped their prices $0.20 a gallon even though what was in their tanks was bought at the lower price. The major distributor (there is only one in the area) jumped their prices immediately on existing stock. The gasoline is not more expensive in the pipe, they are just using the event to charge more.

    So? It’s supply and demand, free market. If they expect to be out of gas in a day or so what are they going to sell until their deliveries resume? Gas stations only make a few cents per gallon due to competition, so they need the extra profit to keep open. Also, most of the affected states have “states of emergency” declared, which limits the price increases. It’s no more reprehensible than charging more for overnight delivery – in this case, they are charging more so you don’t have to drive to an adjacent state to get gas.

  72. lynn says:

    The pipeline deal COULD have been a genuine accident or even a terror caper, but they sat on it pretty much for over a week

    Stories I have read indicate they did not discover the leak for a week. It is a major pipeline (30 inches) moving gasoline from Houston refineries up to the northeast with stops in many of the southern states.

    The average pipeline in the USA is approaching 50 years of age. The EPA and the states have made it incredibly expensive to replace them or to add more. That being a 30 inch pipeline (I have seen my customers build up to 48 inch pipelines now) means that it was probably built since the 70s. Many of the old 8 inch or 10 inch pipelines date back to the 1940s.

    The pipeline companies do an excellent job of “pigging” their pipelines now. The pigs are a fairly automated sled that runs through the pipeline looking for cracks or severely thinned areas of the pipe wall. Unfortunately, the pigs are not perfect by any means and flying the pipelines is still one of the best leak detection methods there is.

  73. nick says:

    There’s a pipeline, jet a or gasoline, don’t remember which, that runs alongside I-5 in southern california. IIRC it supplies Camp Pendleton marine corps base.

    I know that, because you can SEE it where the earth has subsided, or eroded away. There it is, hanging in space, in the embankment along the freeway.

    If you know what to look for, you see the signs of pipelines everywhere as you drive around TX. Granted that we have a bunch, there are places you would never expect a pipeline, yet, there are dozens. I was driving on a north south county road out past Katy, literally thru farm fields miles from cities, and I was crossing one every few hundred feet.

    One runs under my daughters’ school’s gym. One runs under my rec association’s property, maybe even under our pool. Out in Hockley, in some of the very nice ‘ranch’ developments, multiple pipelines cross under residential property.

    From a prepper perspective, as I drive around with my eyes open I’m stunned and amazed by the vastness of the infrastructure that surrounds us.

    nick

  74. H. Combs says:

    Re: gas stations charging more than the gas in the tanks cost
    It’s my experience that gas stations generally change what they expect they will have to pay for their next delivery.

  75. Dave Hardy says:

    It’s pretty amazing; we’re sorta northern New England rural up here but most peeps have no idea how much infrastructure is above, below and around them. The most visible in these parts are electrical, and of course, the highways and roads and bridges and dams. But there are a couple of current natural gas pipeline projects that arouse controversy and protest, running through First Nations land in one case and via “eminent domain” across private property in the other. Add to this the kerfuffle over the planned wind turbines on a ridge to our northeast in Swanton (don’t pronounce the “t”).

  76. MrAtoz says:

    Could somebody link to those books on identifying infrastructure around us, again?

  77. MrAtoz says:

    Thanks, all.

  78. SteveF says:

    projects that arouse controversy and protest, running through First Nations land

    Fuck them. People seem not to realize there was an invasion and a war. They fucking lost. If any of them are currently alive and not enslaved, their ancestors and they fared a lot better than the norm in invasions.

    Application to the current invasion of the United States by Mexicans is left as an exercise for the reader.

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