Thursday, 25 August 2016

By on August 25th, 2016 in personal, science kits, technology

10:15 – I’ve about decided to give up on Firefox. With every release, it becomes buggier and slower, as well as taking more and more RAM and CPU. I’m already running Opera Mobile on my Fire, and I have the full Opera installed on my Linux desktop system. I often have to resort to it when Firefox just doesn’t work on a particular site. It’s much faster than Firefox 48.0 (48.0!), and it seems a lot less buggy.

The final straw came yesterday when I was trying to print ten postage labels for kits. The USPS Click-N-Ship website was moving slower than the proverbial molasses in January. I got tired of sitting watching a spinner for literally a minute every time I clicked to a new page. I finally bagged it and got Opera setup with my USPS account information. Response time dropped from a minute/page to a fraction of a second.

There’s a guy out in the yard right now marking the underground electric cable. The Internet cable guy marked that yesterday. If we do decide to put a garden plot out on that side of the property, I wanted to make sure to stay far away from buried cables.

Barbara is building more science kits at the moment. Later today, we’ll be labeling and filling bottles for still more.



76 Comments and discussion on "Thursday, 25 August 2016"

  1. Rod Schaffter says:

    I’ve got Firefox 48 on my Debian machine, and my online banking site says I should be using a more current browser version. Everything seems to work, except sometimes it don’t remember that I’ve answered the challenge question on this machine…

  2. nick says:

    I dont’ have any problem with FF48.0.2 unless I’ve been to bloomberg . com.

    Then I get mystery freezeups until I restart FF.

    n

  3. brad says:

    It’s essentially impossible to find a browser that is (a) compliant with the ridiculously complex web standards and (b) only a browser. All the current big names do all sorts of things in the background, like running notifications code from websites that you have visited, plus all the extensions and plugins that are now built-in. Here I am, with two tabs open in Chrome (both ttgnet.com), and Chrome is running 14 background processes and well over 200 threads. Whatfer?

    Tried the same thing with Firefox: only one process and 76 threads, but 3 times the memory. What is is it doing with all those resources? Also, Firefox asks every stinkin’ time if it can become the default browser. I haven’t found a way to disable that; the solutions online don’t seem to work.

  4. Chad says:

    KHTML/WebKit -powered browsers have really taken over the alternative browser market. It used to be that if you hated IE you used Firefox. Now, those same users seem more apt to use Safari/Chrome/Opera.

  5. Dave Hardy says:

    I’ve been using SeaMonkey for a while now while Mrs. OFD uses FF; this is still a Winblows machine and we’ve found it needs one full reboot a week, even with the SSD and even with cleaning up files and temp stuff regularly, or else everything gets slower, esp. internet sites. SM is yet another variant or fork of FF but so far, so good. I’ve moved around and played with all kinds of browsers over the years so this probably won’t last and everything may work differently when I move the box over to Mint.

    And we just found out that Opera is now owned by the Chicoms and all our host’s stuff has been thus compromised. While the rest of us are compromised by our own regime anyway. See Mssrs. Assange and Snowden and Schneier on all that.

    Off shortly for a hearing aid fitting down at the VA and then a visit to my FFL guy out on the island; maybe I’ll swing by Chez Bernard to see how the other half lives.

  6. Spook says:

    That Autel Maxiscan automotive code reader is the one I have.
    I also have an ELM-xxx Bluetooth dongle (using Torque on Android).
    If you plan to drive around (with the nifty display gauges)
    make sure the dongle is small, or look into an extension cable,
    depending on car’s jack location).

  7. lynn says:

    “Dallas cop-killer showed PTSD symptoms”
    http://nypost.com/2016/08/25/dallas-cop-killer-showed-ptsd-symptoms/

    This information will be used by Hillary to grab guns from vets and anyone who ever has had any form of PTSD when she becomes prez. Or any mental issues of any sort. Or of anyone living in your home.

  8. Spook says:

    Still beating up on the vocabulary quiz…
    I didn’t memorize (or take notes) the list of words I got,
    but I don’t recognize many or any of the words you guys
    have listed.
    Erratic lists of words produce erratic results!

  9. lynn says:

    “The self-driving car is old enough to drink and drive”
    http://www.cringely.com/2016/08/25/self-driving-car-old-enough-drink-drive/

    Cringley has drunk the Global Warming Koolaid.

  10. lynn says:

    I’ve about decided to give up on Firefox. With every release, it becomes buggier and slower, as well as taking more and more RAM and CPU. I’m already running Opera Mobile on my Fire, and I have the full Opera installed on my Linux desktop system. I often have to resort to it when Firefox just doesn’t work on a particular site. It’s much faster than Firefox 48.0 (48.0!), and it seems a lot less buggy.

    FireFox just works for me. I will start it up each morning and restart it at least a dozen times. I clear all caches every time I shut it down. I am also running on a Windows 7 x64 PC with 16 GB of ram, an 480 GB Intel SSD drive, and a Intel Quad core I7-2600 cpu with 8 threads (hyper threaded). BTW, I have firewalled this PC twice in the last week and had to press the power button to get it to reboot.

    People are complaining bitterly about Chrome lately for java programs having problems ??? Opera is now owned by the ChiComs so that is untrustworthy. IE is a quivering pile of inconsistencies. I guess that leaves Safari ?

  11. Spook says:

    DadCooks:
    “” “The real “secret” of KFC is frying in a pressure cooker.”

    Yes, but, most of the fancy modern pressure cookers have seals that will melt if the hot oil gets on them. Also most fancy modern pressure cookers operate at lower pressures in the interest of “safety”.
    So know your pressure cooker.
    BTW, the reason for the Colonel using pressure to fry his chicken was for speed and not needing to train the “cooks” in the fine nuanced art of deep frying.””

    I almost said that I thought KFC used a pressure cooker; some vague memory.

    I got an old-ish stainless steel pressure cooker recently, with the modern valve
    things on top. I think you just talked me into making sure I keep the old
    (aluminum) one with a simple nipple and a weight (and a soft metal plug
    that is supposed to melt before explosion).

  12. nick says:

    If you ain’t payin’ for it, you don’t get to bitch:

    “Saddest goodbye: Heartbreaking moment devoted couple married for 62 years are forced to separate because they can’t get into the same care home
    Wolf and Anita Gottschalk have been married since 1954
    With failing health, they’ve both moved into care homes but are unable to live together because of a lack of space

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3758461/Saddest-goodbye-Heartbreaking-moment-devoted-couple-married-62-years-forced-separate-t-care-home.html

    Socialized medicine. Fun times.

    n

  13. MrAtoz says:

    Anybody using MS Edge for their browser? I’m being serious.

  14. Miles_Teg says:

    I don’t even know what version of FF I have – I tried all the icons in the top right of the screen – no information.

    I have four FF windows open all the time, and 30-60 or so tabs per window. Every few days it slows to a snail’s pace so I just kill FF in task manager and restart it.

  15. Chad says:

    The real “secret” of KFC is frying in a pressure cooker.

    Isn’t that called broasting?

  16. JimL says:

    We have Edge on our Windows 10 boxen. I’m not terribly happy about it because the corporate shortcuts don’t push out from Active Directory the way they should.

    That said, I don’t “force” anyone to use a specific browser. Personal preferences are permitted. The only requirement is that they have shortcuts available, not necessarily on the browser they’re using.

    Edge – sucks. It’s not well-understood the way Chrome, Firefox, and IE are understood. It doesn’t behave like any of the others. It makes administration more difficult as it’s yet another browser I have to keep an eye on. Not a fan.

  17. DadCooks says:

    @Miles_Teg: Do you have the “Menu Bar” visible in FF?
    If not right click at the top of the page and check “Menu Bar”.
    Then under “Help” select “About” and you’ll find your FF version.
    Currently 48.0.2.

  18. Miles_Teg says:

    ah, thanks.

    47.0. I think I’ve been notified that 48 is available and would I like to restart to get it? I decided to wait ’till the next restart.

  19. dkreck says:

    When was the last time you tried Pale Moon?

    https://www.palemoon.org/

  20. Miles_Teg says:

    A gun couldn’t be registered in Canberra because it “looks” military… Nuts.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-26/canberra-firearm-laws-gun-refused-over-appearance/7786604

  21. Dave Hardy says:

    Anyone else here using SeaMonkey besides me?

    I tried Pale Moon a while back but wasn’t impressed. Also tried the new Vivaldi, a fork of Opera, and it seemed more or less designed for hipsters and shoppers.

    Chrome was taking forever to load and then to load pages, despite reinstalling, etc. IE also slow.

    Back from hearing aid fitting; now I hear EVERYTHING, and I find that there’s a lot of it I wasn’t missing. The keyboard here is loud as hell as are the mouse clicks and me taking a whizz. I guess I’ll toy with the settings via my spiffy smartypants iPhone.

    Very complex these days, getting hearing aids fitted; hooked up to machines, little teensy microphones for testing, programming them via the doc’s computer by way of Bluetooth, etc., etc.

    As regards comments and links here concerning firearms laws and potential confiscation, etc.; I’ve decided to play by the rules for now and see how the chips fall, while simultaneously keeping other channels open. I will post results here as I go through various exercises with the state and Feds, accordingly.

  22. dkreck says:

    When my wife points out the poor state of my hearing I always say to her ‘What?’. Then I state I’m enjoying the peace and quite.

  23. lynn says:

    “Want to Own a Newspaper? A Vermont Contest Has Trouble Finding Takers”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/us/want-to-own-a-newspaper-a-vermont-contest-has-trouble-finding-takers.html?_r=0

    @OFD, or @Dave Hardy, or whoever you are. You’re a word smith, here you go ! Oh wait, the paper is broke.

  24. lynn says:

    Back from hearing aid fitting; now I hear EVERYTHING, and I find that there’s a lot of it I wasn’t missing. The keyboard here is loud as hell as are the mouse clicks and me taking a whizz. I guess I’ll toy with the settings via my spiffy smartypants iPhone.

    I have tinnitus. Bad. Sounds like someone is running a 3,600 rpm motor in my ears, the right ear drifts up to 5,700 rpm all the time. Do those new hearing aids do anything for that ?

  25. Ray Thompson says:

    Sounds like someone is running a 3,600 rpm motor in my ears

    Three phase, 240 V? Or just a wimpy 120V single phase?

    I have tinnitus

    Same here. Constant annoyance that you eventually learn to ignore. Biggest effect is on high frequency sounds.

    My understanding is that they can create hearing aids that sort of combat the tinnitus by increasing the sound to mask the whine causing the brain to ignore the whine.

    https://www.ata.org/managing-your-tinnitus/treatment-options/hearing-aids

  26. lynn says:

    Sounds like someone is running a 3,600 rpm motor in my ears

    Three phase, 240 V? Or just a wimpy 120V single phase?

    Three phase, 4160 V. 3,000 hp.

  27. nick says:

    Mine is bad enough I can’t sleep without a white noise generator. And I have the thing where it occasionally gets louder and higher pitch too. Very frequent this last week. Unusually so and a bit worrying.

    You don’t really learn to ignore it as much as you go for periods without noticing it due to other noise.

    n

  28. DadCooks says:

    I must have some sort of sound/white noise going on all the time to mask my tinnitus caused by my submarine days (high pressure steam, turbine generators, and propulsion turbines). Too lazy to go to the VA (over 60-miles away) for gooberment hearing aids. I’ll probably go to Costco and use my fairly good insurance before I go total Meda(don’t)care.

  29. nick says:

    My dad’s Costco hearing aids were life changing. (I recommended he try them after JPournelle’s success.) VA hearing aids, not very effective (at least the ones he got, not controls no computer etc)

    n

  30. SteveF says:

    Yah, tinnitus here, too. Not too bad, just annoying sometimes. At a guess it comes from gunfire, loud music in my stupid youth, and an artillery barrage.

  31. Dave Hardy says:

    “When my wife points out the poor state of my hearing I always say to her ‘What?’. Then I state I’m enjoying the peace and quite.”

    And you’re apparently still alive and have all your teeth. Congrats.

    “@OFD, or @Dave Hardy, or whoever you are. You’re a word smith, here you go ! Oh wait, the paper is broke.”

    As I’ve said before here; newspapers are dead or dying. The one in Hardwick is unlikely to find any buyers, nor is the one in Montpeculiar-Barre which just laid off half its staff. They just can’t survive in the Brave New World of Pixels. I worked briefly as the managing editor of another small-town paper up here a few years ago, and it’s now long gone. It, like the one in Hardwick, was basically a one-family operation, and when the original family members retired or croaked, so did their papers. It’s all pixels now. And the radio guys don’t get off scot-free, either, as I’m sure Mr. Chuck has attested and can attest; shortwave is fading slowly, and where AM is riding high it’s all wack job religious nutters and “rightwing” cranks and crackpots. Or loud-ass sports blather. Mr. Chuck has been a walking encyclopedia of the modern radio world and also using open-source to run a station.

    You other bumpkins and rubes out there with obvious hearing issues ought to at least get it checked out by a qualified audiologist; I, of course, have tinnitus, for obvious reasons, and the buzz thing went away and I now hear tons of chit I apparently had not even noticed I was missing. I clearly spent decades being the audio equivalent of needing strong corrective lenses. Just wearing these buggers today was like unto the moment in “The Wizard of Oz” where it changes from b&w to color. Which is the second time I’ve had that experience; the first was once I’d gotten alcohol completely outta my system and then my vision and other senses kicked in again, except, obviously, for the hearing.

    But as my audiologist said today; everybody is different; what was wunnerful for ol’ decrepit OFD may be not be so for others. I gotta say, it was a fairly complex procedure and everything was checked out well, right from the first exam.

    The origins of my tinnitus, to spell it out, were much like Mr. SteveF’s: LOTS of gunfire, continuing LONG after mil-spec times; many loud-ass rock concerts; and quite likely being within a mile of a B52 strike one day where they’d used 1,000 pounders and left the landscape a moonscape. We were squatting on the ground and holding our heads while our noses and ears bled. (not copiously, but a good trickle).

  32. Ray Thompson says:

    At a guess it comes from gunfire, loud music in my stupid youth, and an artillery barrage.

    Mine comes from loud music in my also stupid youth, time spent on a farm with loud machinery, firing weapons (shotguns, rifles, etc.) without ear protection and time in large computer rooms with extra aggravation by impact printers operated with the cover open looking at listings as there were produced.

    Now whenever I use outdoor power equipment I wear ear protection along with eye protection. A youth squandered because I was invincible and nothing could happen.

  33. nick says:

    I’ll second the misspent youth, add some time in a mill standing next to the coil line and punch presses, running a bench slitter. Then add all the percussives of powder and pneumatic nail guns for a decade, coupled with the high speed motors on all the woodworking machines, and you get a bunch of very specific lost frequencies. The biggest chunk went in the mill though.

    With the two little girls I’ve had noticeable losses too. They can shriek louder than a siren and much closer.

    One thing for the young players out there, it NEVER comes back. Once gone, it’s gone. And it’s not silence, the tinnitus is a loud high pitched whine that never stops. Add to that the sharp ‘clattering’ noises that DO rattle your brains (dishes and silverware on dishes in restaurants and bars) and you got a world of low to mid level misery for the rest of your life. Wear your hearing protection, all the time, every time.

    nick

  34. Marcelo says:

    Whenever I am on Windows 10 I use Edge. It now has Adblock Plus support which is the only add-on I need and for me it is faster than FFX. Having said that it seems to have a quirk with this site that FFX used to have many years ago. On refresh it “repaints” from the top. That is a bit annoying and wastes time.
    I also like the acrobat support it brings. No more need for the Adobe latest bloated Acrobat Reader.
    The final thing that I really, really like is Print-To-PDF support.

  35. Spook says:

    With plenty of genetics for hearing loss, not related to, say, rock music (or
    whatever they had circa 1935) or factories, or gunfire, I’m now a lot more careful.
    When I worked for a med testing outfit, many years ago, I was the equipment
    test dummy each day. I had a “flat” spot at a kinda high frequency, but I could
    hear some really high pitches (and still can). Wish I had taken notes.
    I’d like to see where I test now.
    Note that Sam’s Club, for example, does free hearing testing. Guess I need to
    try it… and re-test periodically.

    Meanwhile, kiddies, wear protection !!

  36. SteveF says:

    while our noses and ears bled

    Wow, I forgot all about that. Most of us didn’t get bloody noses, but the people closest to where the shells were bursting got them. Mostly it was a case of “Holy shit! Incoming!”, drop, wait it out, get up and get everyone in the APCs except for a driver and an officer in each jeep, get the hell out of there, take stock of injuries (none), take stock of abandoned equipment (a fair amount), and take stock of damaged equipment (a few dings in the sides of the APCs). (There may have been some surreptitious changing of underwear. There certainly was joking about it.)

    And it’s not silence, the tinnitus is a loud high pitched whine that never stops. … you got a world of low to mid level misery for the rest of your life.

    Really, you’re better off getting married. At least when you get divorced the whining stops.

  37. Dave says:

    I must be one of the fortunate ones. The only problem I have is hearing the particular frequency of my wife’s voice. It’s a shame I can’t adjust it to tune out the sound of my daughter whining and crying…

  38. Dave Hardy says:

    I heartily and enthusiastically and fanatically concur with the sentiments expressed here by others to any “yoots” out there; don’t permanently fuck up your hearing. Wear protection around noisy situations, whether it’s power tools, firearms, concerts, etc. Once lost, it truly ain’t comin’ back, y’all.

  39. Spook says:

    “Yoots” being relative… probably already old enough to have had
    real (and noisy jobs) and plenty of loud music… and so on…

    Anybody want to start a claim at being the youngest here?

  40. MrAtoz says:

    I got selected for flight school right out of my Army Officer Basic Course. Hearing protection beat into you from day 1. I always wore foam earplugs under my flight helmet (which was rated for full protection from droning choppers by itself). We’d then turn up the radios to compensate.

    The loudest concert I attended was at Uni. Black Oak Arkansas at a large bar. It was also the last. Even ROTC pushed hearing protection and I used it. I’m sure I have some hearing loss, but it is not noticeable in day to day life.

  41. Spook says:

    Ooops… Misplaced parenthesis…

    “Yoots” being relative… probably already old enough to have had
    real (and noisy) jobs and plenty of loud music… and so on…

    Anybody want to start a claim at being the youngest here?

  42. Spook says:

    “” The loudest concert I attended … “”

    Dylan’s Rolling Thunder Revue.

  43. Dave Hardy says:

    “Whatever job you do, Cato wants seven billion others in domestic competition.”

    Yeah, Cato; the egghead libertarians, who will argue the most arcane and obscure points of debate from some 10,000-page Austrian School tome and if you lose the argument, you are Anathema, excommunicated. Whereupon YOU form a new faction, of course. Much like the so-called Right in this country, and the “conservatives,” and “three-percenters.” We fight amongst ourselves while the Left, all on the same playboook, INTUITIVELY, laugh.

    Our IT data center drone jobs at IBM went to Slovakia, India and Mexico. Soon, their jobs will go to robots. IDGAF anymore.

    Loudest concert for me was The Who at the old Boston Gahden. In any reasonable and just society, all four of them would have been locked up as certified lunatics at the outset, but their “Live at Leeds” record has got to be in the top five rock classics of all time.

    From the Mundane Home Nooz Department:

    Our youngest and smallest cat brought in a young rabbit she’d killed. She ate it entire.

    And I got stung by a yellowjacket the other day on my left wrist, right in the seam where it bends, and it’s been seeping ever since. I keep dumping witch hazel on it. Haven’t been stung by anything since I was a kid. One time, I was at my grandparents’ house in Fairhaven, MA, and bumped against one of the laundry poles in the back yard; I was five. A swarm of pissed-off hornets came up outta the ground and stung the bejazus outta me; I was wearing shorts and a tee-shirt, of course. Got stung thirty or forty times; Grandma Ethel made up a mix of baking soda and water to a paste and put it all over me and bingo, no lasting damage. Lucky also I didn’t have that thing where bee and wasp stings can be immediately fatal.

    From the Oathkeepers Breaking Their Oaths Department:

    https://www.oathkeepers.org/standing-army-oath-breakers-attack-civilian-rkba/

    Again, it’s the top brass and officers above the field grades, just like in the police departments, all political positions. Violent criminals, terrorists and musloid scum can have all kinds of neat firearms chit but the rest of us are supposed to give them up and rely on the police and troops to protect us. Fuck that.

  44. Dave Hardy says:

    And from the Field Marshal Rodham Gazette Nooz:

    http://buchanan.org/blog/lots-smoke-hillary-125569

    Ya know what? Obola is clean as a whistle compared to this fugly warthog bitch. She makes him appear as pure as the driven snow. Bet lotsa derps never thought it could get any worse than Barack Hussein Soetero, but guess again!

  45. MrAtoz says:

    And from the Field Marshal Rodham Gazette Nooz:

    I wish I could get the fems in the family to read articles like that. All I get is: Vagina! Vagina!

  46. Dave Hardy says:

    I sent it to Mrs. OFD, and dollars to doughnuts she’ll ignore it, or just skim it real fast and then if asked, will blow it all off again. There’s no reasoning with them, evidently. The VAGINA is one major criteria and their other one seems to be that if Cankles and her minions and the MSM tell them that Trump is the AntiChrist, well, that’s it, no other views need apply.

    I started to read the other article by Paul Craig Roberts and he was doing well until the last couple of paragraphs, where he started ranting that a vote for her is a vote for nuclear war before the end of her first term and then, finally, a vote for her is a vote for the end of Planet Earth. As a former Mordor insider, he ought to know that before it ever gets to that, we presumably have some level-headed generals and admirals who will step in and shut it down. OTOH, maybe he knows more than I do about that.

  47. Rolf Grunsky says:

    I was fitted with hearing aids a couple of weeks ago. My hearing is down about 30dB at 1kHz and down about 50dB at 4kHz. The last straw for me when I was a concert last month. I was sitting in the balcony, clear line of sight to the performers, no more than 50 feet. When a man in the group spoke I could understand him. When one of the women spoke, I found her totally unintelligible. Time to get my hearing tested.

    My world is now much nosier. Fans that I thought were silent, aren’t. My voice sounds different to me as well. It took me a little while to figure out why. We hear our voices through bone conduction and through the air. The ‘aids only improve the sound through the air but they can not correct the conduction sounds. The difference is subtle but noticeable.

    I bought a mid range pair since they had a buy one, get the other for half price. Oticon Nera2 Pro was the model. (Pro? Do they make an amateur hearing aid?) Fully programmable through a Bluetooth interface (but they do not show up as Bluetooth devices here, alas). They also come with a wireless remote. Very handy in a doctor’s office with screaming kids. Just turn the volume down.

    But these buggers are expensive, actually they all are, even the cheaper ones. The Ontario government will pay up to $500 per ear once every three years. That is just about enough to pay for the equivalent of an ear trumpet. Total cost with the subsidy was about $3400. Mind you, that’s in Canadian dollars, adjust as required. I hope you guys can get a better deal than that.

    But I have to say that they seem to be worth every penny.

    Rolf

  48. Spook says:

    “” Loudest concert for me was The Who at the old Boston Gahden. In any reasonable and just society, all four of them would have been locked up as certified lunatics at the outset, but their “Live at Leeds” record has got to be in the top five rock classics of all time. “”

    HOPE I DIE BEFORE I GET OLD !!

  49. Spook says:

    “”And I got stung by a yellowjacket the other day on my left wrist, right in the seam where it bends, and it’s been seeping ever since. I keep dumping witch hazel on it. Haven’t been stung by anything since I was a kid. One time, I was at my grandparents’ house in Fairhaven, MA, and bumped against one of the laundry poles in the back yard; I was five. A swarm of pissed-off hornets came up outta the ground and stung the bejazus outta me; I was wearing shorts and a tee-shirt, of course. Got stung thirty or forty times; Grandma Ethel made up a mix of baking soda and water to a paste and put it all over me and bingo, no lasting damage. Lucky also I didn’t have that thing where bee and wasp stings can be immediately fatal. “”

    I’m a little disappointed that the gang here have not been ranting about the supposed huge increase in price for the Epi Pen (sp?) anaphylactic shock emergency treatment device.

  50. nick says:

    Live at leads was one of the first albums I ever owned. With all the included fake paperwork still intact. My much older cousin gave me a crate of albums when he learned that I didn’t have but a few… man those were some good albums.

    Not sure what the loudest show I ever attended was, but I’ve WORKED some that were incredibly loud. I figured out that you could, in fact, mix the show with earplugs in. Running followspots in the rigging demanded earplugs under the intercom headset. Plugs in, turn up the intercom. Same with front of house, and backstage. The worst was security in the ‘moat’ in front of the stage and the main speaker stacks. Thank god they fly whatever they can now, and the linear array technology means better sound, better coverage, and lower overall levels. In ear monitoring for performers means the stage is MUCH quieter now too, which saves the crew. The smart guys had their own David Clarke aviation headsets modified to work with their radios or stage intercom.

    My losses are very sharp notches and are different for each ear. Besides having trouble with female voice intelligibility, it makes it impossible for me to tell which direction certain high pitch sounds are coming from. I spent several days, off and on, looking for the chirping smoke detector in my garage. Finally found it 4 feet from my face.

    nick

  51. nick says:

    ” Epi Pen (sp?) anaphylactic shock emergency treatment device.”

    Available only by prescription and dosage is personalized. If you need one, you’ve already got one. Although it would be nice to have in the emergency kit, maybe some Narcon too, inject-able lidocaine, ringers lactate with d5w, lots of useful things that aren’t available…

    nick

  52. MrAtoz says:

    Available only by prescription and dosage is personalized.

    Unless you are Cankles or one of the elite. She gets a shot in the butt before she even hits the ground.

  53. Dave Hardy says:

    “I hope you guys can get a better deal than that.”

    Yup, free of charge at the VA, but then I’m a big war hero (sucker and imbecile). And looks like my world will be much noisier, but Ima gon adjust dat chit with my handy-dandy smartypants iPhone. Gawd, doncha love them pixels??!!

    “I’m a little disappointed that the gang here have not been ranting about the supposed huge increase in price for the Epi Pen (sp?) anaphylactic shock emergency treatment device.”

    I mentioned dat chit to wife with associated pics and vids and got blown off totally. Nothing makes any diff here. I forget if it got brought up on this board, though. Pretty funny to see that non-SS guy clinging to her like white on rice everywhere she goes. Got only seconds to pop that demon back into the carcass on the move!

    “Not sure what the loudest show I ever attended was, but I’ve WORKED some that were incredibly loud.”

    I keep forgetting to ask: did you in your concert rigging days ever run into Billy Beck? He’s had his “Two-Four” site up for years but has let it slide and now does all his stuff on FaceCrack. Very learned and astute guy, licensed pilot, guitarist, and extremely well-read and historically literate. Longtime concert rigging guy for sound and lights, mainly lights, I think.

    “She gets a shot in the butt before she even hits the ground.”

    Imagine having that job. Yikes. Latest pic I saw of her, she needs a step thing to get up into the fucking limo. With two SS guys holding the door. What a disgusting and miserably evil subhuman specimen. Yet tens of millions will vote for her anyway. If that happens, we know just how stupid most of the country is, I guess.

    But whichever way it goes, the great mass of us outraged will rise up anyway, at last. No reason not to anymore.

  54. brad says:

    Nick writes re Tinnitus: You don’t really learn to ignore it as much as you go for periods without noticing it due to other noise.

    Yep, that’s about it. In my case, I know pretty much exactly what caused it. One stupid mistake. I’m normally pretty careful, but one time I needed a couple of quick holes drilled with a hammer-drill (or whatever you call them in English), my ear protection was a long ways away, so I didn’t bother. This, in an enclosed space, was painfully loud.

    Some months later, this really annoying whine started. Hearin test, the above mentioned results. The audiologist explained that, if there’s no input at a particular frequency, eventually the ears start inventing it. Voila, tinnitus.

    Re EpiPen: It’s a bit of a sad joke. The price in the US is around 5-6 times what it is for the exact same product in any other country. Here, in Switzerland, an EpiPen is a bit over $100. On some forum or other, I saw a post pointing out the the price difference is more like 100:1, when compared to the same medication for veterinary use. On some planet, somewhere, this must make sense.

    Gotta get to work…

  55. Dave says:

    It’s a bit of a sad joke. The price in the US is around 5-6 times what it is for the exact same product in any other country. Here, in Switzerland, an EpiPen is a bit over $100.

    It’s high time that Teva Pharmaceuticals corrected what the FDA called their “major deficiency” and brought a generic replacement to market.

  56. JimL says:


    Ooops… Misplaced parenthesis…

    “Yoots” being relative… probably already old enough to have had
    real (and noisy) jobs and plenty of loud music… and so on…

    Anybody want to start a claim at being the youngest here?

    I have a little hearing loss in my left ear. I blame leaving the window down while driving, as military & shop work was always with hearing protection. And I don’t go to concerts – they’re just not fun for me.

    Youth? I haven’t hit mid-century (yet), which puts me under most of the old farts here. 0x31, which is what I tell my kids. For a couple of months yet. I seem to recall there are a couple of whippersnappers here younger than that. But not many.

  57. Ray Thompson says:

    ust wearing these buggers today was like unto the moment in “The Wizard of Oz” where it changes from b&w to color

    That was about my experience when I had cataract surgery. I guess I need to do the ears. I guess there is nothing they can do for the heat seeking moisture missile.

    Yup, free of charge at the VA, but then I’m a big war hero

    Same here, just not the war hero that OFD is. Since I am already in the system drawing some disability it should not take long. I have heard the hearing aids are not the best but something is better than nothing. Private pay is about $4K a pair. I think with the VA they are free as OFD indicated.

  58. JimL says:

    I guess there is nothing they can do for the heat seeking moisture missile.

    I wouldn’t say that. I worked with a guy who had a pump installed. Poor bastard. His wife loved it. He always came to work exhausted.

  59. brad says:

    the heat seeking moisture missile

    If that’s a serious question, then Cialis. It works for a couple of days, so you have…um…more flexibility in your timing.

  60. C. Wrobel says:

    It doesn’t take a lot to lose hearing. When I got out of the Navy I had a 20dB loss at 400 Hz due to all the power supplies and lost most of my high frequency. Outside the range of compensation, of course. The kids I worked with didn’t believe it. There are phone apps for it now. Drops out at 380 and back in at 420 or so. Very weird telling them I can’t hear the 15KHz while they were complaining how load and annoying it was.

  61. DadCooks says:

    Now yesterday, Thursday 8/25/16, I was watching Fox News when they broke in to a Trump rally for about a half an hour. I got excited every time he shouted out BIGOT!!!. He needs to keep hitting that along with CROOKED!!! and CRIMINAL!!!, and he needs to add TRAITOR!!!.

    So I wasn’t paying attention, just going about my daily reading on the interweb and what should assault my ears but Her Royal Bitchiness Cankles. I immediately hit the mute button as I saw her face transform to that of Beelzebub and her pointy finger start to shoot lightning bolts. Even though the sound was muted her screech came through loud and clear. She is not of this world.

  62. nick says:

    Looks like hearing loss is epidemic in the 40+ set, especially with military service.

    The three things I used to harp on with young guys in the shop were:

    Don’t carry a credit card balance.
    Wear your hearing and eye protection.
    Save 10% of your take home pay.

    Do those three things and you will come out of your hard working job with money in the bank and your senses intact.

    nick

    (I didn’t comment on ‘find a good woman and avoid the crazies’ because the guys that went for that wouldn’t be swayed. It does seem to be the key to long term financial and mental health as a man– avoid crazy women and divorce.)

  63. brad says:

    avoid crazy women and divorce

    I know plenty of guys who failed to follow this rule. When I was in the military, I saw a shocking number of guys get married to apparently attractive, intelligent women – who let themselves go totally to pot as soon as they had their ring. Really, it would be a change from one day to the next. After a couple of years of marriage, the woman would generally be twice as wide as her husband.

    Of course, there’s the flip side for women: avoid bad boys. Lots of my women friends who insisted on chasing after the sociopaths. If they were “lucky” enough to catch one, they were either lucky, and divorced a couple of years later. Or unlucky, like my neighbor back then, who stopped answering the door, so that no one would see the bruises. That guy quite literally treated his dog better than his wife, but he was soooooo charming and attractive when they were dating…

  64. Dave Hardy says:

    “When I was in the military, I saw a shocking number of guys get married to apparently attractive, intelligent women – who let themselves go totally to pot as soon as they had their ring.”

    Especially for new wives brought back from SEA back in the day; slim, gorgeous, raven-haired beauties turned to fat-as-pigs and mean-as-snakes acquisitive harpies in the Land of the Big PX.

    “Of course, there’s the flip side for women: avoid bad boys.”

    Indeed. But reason takes a distant back seat for many years with homo sapiens sapiens, to that moisture-seeking guided missile and the human heart. By the time many of us are old enough and experienced enough to recognize all these dangers and pitfalls, we’ve already long since made the mistakes.

  65. Mike G. says:

    Noting OFD’s concerns, Vivaldi might be an option,

    A Web Browser for Our Friends

    .mg

  66. MrAtoz says:

    Yup, free of charge at the VA, but then I’m a big war hero (sucker and imbecile).

    Squeeee!

  67. dkreck says:

    Thinking with the wrong head. Common malady.

  68. Dave Hardy says:

    I see now that Vivaldi will run on Linux so Ima gon gib it a try for a short while on Winblows and then see if I wanna put it on Mint as a backup? to FF or vice-versa.

    Sunny with blue skies; the old back and sciatica are acting up again and I suspect one of the new exercises I learned earlier this week did for me. So I’m back to hobbling and shuffling today, which sucks rocks, because I have a PILE of stuff to do inside and out.

  69. lynn says:

    It doesn’t take a lot to lose hearing. When I got out of the Navy I had a 20dB loss at 400 Hz due to all the power supplies and lost most of my high frequency.

    I lost my hearing for about 24 hours back in 1985 ? when I was 20 feet away from a 48 inch main steam line at 3,675 psia and 1,000 F when it lost a one inch sample line. The steam turbine dropped 100,000 hp instantaneously before catching itself and opening the valves wide open (we were running at about 900,000 hp). I was wearing both ear plugs and muffs and it still was louder than Hillary’s screeching.

    I also blame Uncle Teddy, the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, and the rest of the usual suspects. “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” just aint fun unless it is 100+ db.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whQQpwwvSh4

  70. SteveF says:

    the heat seeking moisture missile

    If that’s a serious question, then

    … think about

    She gets a shot in the butt before she even hits the ground.

    And then think about Hillary’s butt. Her bare butt, in all it’s pale, glistening glory. Keep that thought in your head. Keep that thought in your head for a week or two.

    Then get that thought out of your head. Your HSMM will be so relieved it will jump up in excitement.

  71. Dave Hardy says:

    Yikes!

  72. SteveF says:

    I like to add something to the conversation. And if that something is nothing more than a burning sensation from the vomit in the back of your throat, that’s just a burden I’ll have to live with.

  73. Ray Thompson says:

    think about Hillary’s butt. Her bare butt

    Now I will have to sit to pee the rest of my life. The one eyed wonder worm has retreated permanently to protect the rest of the body.

    Bought a new camera today, Olympus OM E-M1, as my backup camera is failing. Display screen blanks out after about 5 minutes of use. Have to wait a couple hours for it to come back so I think it is temperature related. Not worth fixing an 8 year old camera. Specs change too fast with new cameras.

    Back in the film days a 30 year old camera was still viable. Not so with digital. A Nikon F1 technology worked for 30 years. Digital 5 years old is well past it’s prime.

    New camera will do 10 frames per second, higher ISO with less noise, remote control with the phone, electronic shutter so it is quiet, smaller camera and less weight.

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1003633-REG/olympus_v207010bu000_om_d_e_m1_mirrorless_micro.html

  74. Dave Hardy says:

    You’re a swell guy, Mr. SteveF!

  75. Mike G. says:

    “That which is seen cannot be unseen.”

    .mg

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