Sunday, 24 July 2016

By on July 24th, 2016 in prepping

10:13 – I’ve commented before about how LTS food is going mainstream. For the last three years or so, Costco, Walmart, and Sam’s Club have all featured it on their websites and in their advertising circulars. Last week, the Wall Street Journal ran a front-page article on the increasing popularity and widespread appeal of “bunker food”.

Amazon is late to the party, but they’ve now jumped in with both feet. For a couple years, they’ve been selling some LTS food, mostly Mountain House freeze-dried, and mostly at very high prices. I check their site periodically, because I’d rather order Augason Farms stuff from Amazon than from Walmart. Until recently, they carried only a few AF products and often priced them at or above retail. The other night, I checked again and found that Amazon now offers the full range of AF products, and at prices that are sometimes competitive with WalMart, although usually moderately to significantly higher. Some of them, Amazon actually stocks, but a lot of them are from third-party vendors fulfilled by Amazon.

For example, Amazon now offers a can of AF butter powder for $19.56, same price as Walmart, and a can of whole egg powder for $31.51, only four cents higher than Walmart’s $31.47. Amazon charges $18.32 per can for AF Cheese Blend Powder, versus only $17.41 on Walmart. Some things are a lot more expensive on Amazon, such as bell peppers at $18.44 per can versus only $12.31 on Walmart, or bacon TVP at $11.99 versus only $9.32 on Walmart. I compared a couple of dozen products, and found that Amazon averaged about 11% higher than Walmart. Amazon has some work to do if they want to compete with Walmart, but it’s nice to see them at least getting into the competition.


53 Comments and discussion on "Sunday, 24 July 2016"

  1. Nick Flandrey says:

    Lot of stuff going mainstream, as many have commented. Nice to see that fewer people will be helpless when trouble comes.

    There’s a growing awareness, but some people are still reluctant to act. Spent some time talking with relatives this week and many of them see trouble ahead. They are typical of eastern urban corridor dwellers in their attitudes and politics with a few surprises mixed in.

    Most of them see trouble ahead, but are still in the head shaking and tongue clicking stage. I think their inertia will end up killing them if shtf.

    There were surprises. One young lady clearly sees the black insurrection, clearly sees the mooslim problem, but her response is to move to Europe to avoid the troubles. That just boggles the mind. She seems oblivious to the effects of massive mooslim invasion and thinks they’ll moderate with exposure to western culture. In fact, we’ve seen the opposite.

    She’s bright and engaged, but the only framework she has for looking at the world
    is the one she learned in school. Maybe she’ll learn a new way without a personal tragedy. I hope so. On the other hand, maybe she’ll enjoy the feel of the lash.

    Nick

  2. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I just put in a Walmart order for a 4-pound can of Armor Lard, two cans of Augason dehydrated onions (which rehydrate to about 19.5 pounds of onion per can), a can of AF bell peppers, and a can of AF cheese blend powder.

    Interestingly, in the last two or three months, Walmart.com has started defaulting to free pickup, even though it shows free shipping in your cart. To get the stuff shipped, you have to edit the top section on the free pickup change, where there’s an icon to change it from free pickup to free shipping. My little $55 order is going to ship free in three separate shipments.

    I think free shipping is killing them, particularly since they usually ship a $50 order that has four or five items in it in two or three separate shipments. That’s why they’re now defaulting to free pickup instead of shipping the stuff. Walmart needs to hire someone from Amazon who knows how to manage fulfillment on free-shipping orders.

  3. Miles_Teg says:

    It’s official. The IOC says it’s okay for Russia to cheat.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/russian-team-will-not-face-blanket-ban-in-rio:-ioc/7656416

  4. MrAtoz says:

    I guess the IOC doesn’t want to start a war with Russia. Absolute disgrace. Plus, look what you get when a turd world country hosts the Olympics. At least the condoms are free and hookers and blow are cheap.

  5. MrAtoz says:

    I feel like I should be on the FBI’s Most Wanted list for all the A/C I use. Thanks, Lurch, I’ll probably get an EPA SWAT team knockin’ at my door. Where’s my shotgun.

  6. Dave Hardy says:

    Drudge is OK for nearly real-time nooz aggregation but I gotta say I LOVE the Woodpile Report; it is always just chock-full of VERY interesting links and current stories.

    The current issue has several fascinating pieces on the police shooting stuff and some much more worrisome links to stories concerning a possible run-up to what they all call “World War III.” It looks like Russia has been getting tired of being poked in the eye by us and is on the move. While our own missile defense system here to protect the population is yet another fucking joke.

    http://www.woodpilereport.com/html/index-435.htm

    Lots of fun reading for your quiet, peaceful Sunday afternoon and evening.

  7. MrAtoz says:

    Now that Wikileaks posted the DNC, what do we hear from all Social Media everywhere and the MSM: crickets. Get a clue Boobus Americanus.

    Bernie goes full Dumbocrat even after the DNC emails call him a JOOOOOOO: “I find it inconceivable that Republicans continue to ignore the reality of climate change, which is the global crisis of our time.” I guess he’s looking for a job in the Canklesore Administration. Climate Change deniers under EPA Chief Bernie will get a mag emptied in their ass.

  8. Dave Hardy says:

    “Bernie goes full Dumbocrat even after the DNC emails call him a JOOOOOOO:”

    Predictable. Still, deuced odd; who’s the DNC chair?

    From the main MSM stooges:

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politics/dnc-wikileaks-emails/index.html

    “I guess he’s looking for a job in the Canklesore Administration.”

    No doubt. But it’s questionable that he’ll get one; he’s got a rep as a loudmouth loose cannon and his “democratic socialist” twaddle won’t register very well with the corporate fascists who run things now. Nice for college twinkies and cupcakes but not the boards of Goldman Sachs or GE. Plus he’s been wicked slow to get on the Dem bandwagon and endorse Field Marshal Rodham. Maybe they’ll make him ambassador to Russia or Israel. Make wifey SecEducation so she can destroy that like she mangled her college administration up here and bankrupted them.

  9. ech says:

    Now that Wikileaks posted the DNC, what do we hear from all Social Media everywhere and the MSM: crickets. Get a clue Boobus Americanus.

    It’s been on the front page of CNN for since it broke. It’s not being ignored, especially by the BernieBros.

  10. SteveF says:

    Settled science: Historic temperature measurements need to be adjusted again because the earth has warmed more than the thermometers say it has.

    I think NASA’s and NOAA’s measurement budgets should be zeroed. All they need is their computer models, which tell them all they need to know.

  11. DadCooks says:

    Obama is even voting for Trump:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/24/obamas-half-brother-announces-hes-voting-for-trump-explains-why/

    This is going to be a real interesting week.

  12. paul says:

    I need to get back into the habit of “stocking up”. My credit union balance reminded me they paid the grand sum of $19 and some change TOTAL in interest last year.

    Almost enough to buy a 30 pack of Miller High Life. So wow. So generous.

    Meanwhile, prices just keep edging up faster than that .01% interest rate they pay.

    Oh, the Moxie arrived. We like it. That’s not a royal We. The best I can figure, the taste is root-beer and sassafras tea plus something else. I’m going to try one at room temperature… I like Coca-Cola at room temp. I’m told I’m weird.

    Shopping for the stuff was interesting. Amazon and eBay prices are all over the place. I went to https://www.drinkmoxie.com/ and found the Shop link. $9 for a case of 24 cans aka two twelve packs. It may be high compared to OFD’s grocery store when my HEB has Coke and Sprite twelve packs for $3.50. But I can’t buy it at a local store. Perhaps there is a store in a mall in Austin… and they would charge $10 a twelve pack. Plus sales tax. The $13.95 for UPS seems ok. Not something to swill like iced-tea, just for the price to me, but a real nice treat.

    I’m gonna pass on the pretzels. My latest snacky thing is HEB pork rinds, “hot and spicy” are best, with pimento cheese spread for a dip. Don’t judge me.

  13. SteveF says:

    Don’t judge me.

    Don’t worry. I’ll be too busy dry heaving to do any judging.

  14. Spook says:

    Anybody got any idea(s) about cost savings, if any,
    for fuel savings for, say, lentils and couscous versus
    beans and rice?
    How about any nutritional info?

  15. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    With Thermos cooking, fuel costs are essentially identical.

  16. Spook says:

    I’d like to try a Moxie… Somebody e-mail me a cold one!
    Another near-cult favorite is CheerWine, also described as
    somewhere in the range of Dr. Pepper or root beer; it’s OK
    but not worth the premium price.
    I keep trying to cut out sugar(s) (NOT with artificials) but
    at least I save money with generic cola.
    A good alternative is sparkling water with some benign
    flavoring (or none), since sometimes it’s just about the
    bubbles!
    For crunchy salty stuff, I like Cheeze-Its or Goldfish (or,
    also, generics), but I do have a strange craving for ordinary
    pretzel sticks for the pending season… but I do tend NOT
    to follow sports… or politics… (same diff).

  17. Spook says:

    “With Thermos cooking, fuel costs are essentially identical.”

    Somehow I knew that was coming.

    Not so sure about that applying to couscous, since it’s pretty
    much “instant” and of course a rolling boil might cook lentils
    a lot faster than big beans.
    Still… Guess it’s about initial cost, and for just stocking up for
    horrors, basic beans and rice be hard to beat.

  18. MrAtoz says:

    Something is up here. Wasserman-Shultz falling on her sword already.

    I’m sure she was told to fall, or the Field Marshal would make an example of her. Huma probably had her neck under her jackboot while Cankles laid down the law. Too many screwups for the Klinton Krime Family to fix.

  19. SteveF says:

    Right! Only Clintons are allowed to be serial fuckups without consequence!

  20. Nick Flandrey says:

    I guess I’m missing something, unless pc got her. You are still allowed to dis an opponent aren’t you? I’ve heard and seen much worse than what was reported lice on tv for Pete’s sake.

    N.b. I don’t really care much, it’s nice to see that poisonous viper get some comeuppance…..

    N

  21. Dave Hardy says:

    “Oh, the Moxie arrived. We like it.”

    Outstanding! I swill it almost every day. One of my two or three remaining vices.

    “My latest snacky thing is HEB pork rinds, “hot and spicy” are best, with pimento cheese spread for a dip. Don’t judge me.”

    I would try that, as would Mrs. OFD. We’re real adventurous in our dotage.

    “…lentils and couscous versus beans and rice?”

    We love that stuff here and gobble it down almost every week; great in hot weather, when the temp here rockets to 85.

    “I’m sure she was told to fall, or the Field Marshal would make an example of her.”

    She wasn’t planning to stay on, anyway; this is a non-issue, just another stupid distraction. She is obviously Jewish herself, yet under her auspices they talked about Sanders like a dog. He’s eating it, ’cause he’s not a super-Jew anyway, and he is probably in line for some kinda political plum if the witch/crone gets in.

    “Only Clintons are allowed to be serial fuckups without consequence!”

    It is truly astounding to your northern correspondent after so many years and so many blatant fuckups, and they’re obviously trash, both of them, yet there they are, unscathed throughout. Amazing. The rulers must have had quite a laff putting them in place, as they have no doubt had with Obola and Moochelle. We’d be the laughingstock of the world but for other nations’ presidents and premiers being just as bad or worse. The only one who truly acts like a leader is Prince Vlad, sorry to say.

    “I don’t really care much, it’s nice to see that poisonous viper get some comeuppance…..”

    Not much of that; she’s likely had a better gig lined up somewhere for some time now. Like our former AG, that miserable piece of rat-shit.

  22. Spook says:

    Crunchy salty pork rinds are hard to beat!
    I don’t think I’ve had any with built-in hot
    sauce, but that makes sense… or just dip
    a bit… Cholula (a mix of odd peppers, deep
    flavor), or lately the real Sriracha (’cause I
    like the real guy who started the original
    outfit: a true American entrepreneur!)…

  23. MrAtoz says:

    One of my two or three remaining vices.One of my two or three remaining vices.One of my two or three remaining vices.

    Two or three, sir, two or three? Hey-soos is looking down and snickering.

  24. MrAtoz says:

    Debbie Does Shultz let the cat out of the bag. She should’ve said “I know nothing, nothing” until Cankles’ nomination coronation. Bernie Backers are already protesting. Even Black ones. She proved the DNCs bias even to the noobs.

  25. MrAtoz says:

    The DNC is announcing its’ keynote speaker list. It is star studded. Here’s one of the best in the world:

    Top World Keynoter

    lol!

  26. Dave Hardy says:

    “She proved the DNCs bias even to the noobs.”

    All this stuff is assuming that it’s on the level, i.e., not just another dawg-and-ponygirl show for all us rubes, bumpkins, serfs and Dirt People out here.

    “Hey-soos is looking down and snickering.”

    He knows it’s down to “several,” and that’s an improvement, believe me, from prior years. VICES, mind you, not just sins. Of the latter I entertain daily, if not hourly, a full complement, sir.

  27. Spook says:

    “”One of my two or three remaining vices.One of my two or three remaining vices.One of my two or three remaining vices.

    Two or three, sir, two or three? Hey-soos is looking down and snickering.
    “”

    From where I sit (on my tired ol’ ass) Dave Hardy has few significant vices
    since he has rejected most of his police and war history, and he’s making
    amends on some or most of that. Religion is not my issue, so OFD has
    gotta work that out on his own, but it sure sounds like his behaviour has
    become focused on helping his community and his fellow war victims.
    Have a Moxie on my tab, Dave, and live long to rant about Olde English
    and such.

  28. Dave Hardy says:

    Even more surprising/funny chit concerning the Munich caper and the alleged perp:

    http://freedomoutpost.com/munich-massacre-coverup-shooters-facebook-shows-he-is-not-iranian-but-a-syrian-islamist-pro-turkey/

    I guess we’ll never ever get a straight fucking story from anybody in the MSM about anything under the sun. If they tell us the sun rises in the East, I’m looking up just to make sure it is.

  29. SteveF says:

    Debbie Does Shultz

    No no no. It’s Debbie Does Weimaraner Schlong. You are what you eat and, well, look at her.

  30. MrAtoz says:

    You were right, Mr. OFD. Cankles appointed Debbie Washingmachine Shultz as her honorary campaign chair for the 50 States.

    Peter Principle.

  31. Dave Hardy says:

    “…it sure sounds like his behaviour has become focused on helping his community and his fellow war victims.”

    Sort of. Thanks for the vote of confidence. I am still avoiding stuff but that is slowly coming together.

    “…and live long to rant about Olde English and such.”

    Always a major crowd-pleaser. And now I’m off another literary kick, which like a dawg to its vomit I return from time to time: reading the major Western classics via Renaissance and “Early Modern” English translations, to wit, Pope’s of the “Iliad” and “Odyssey,” Dryden’s “Aeneid and the one by Scottish Bishop Gavin Douglas in the 16th-C in Lallans Scots, and Arthur Golding’s “Metamorphoses” by the very late Roman exile Publius Ovidius Naso. That poor bastard got sent out to some God-forsaken shit-hole village on the Black Sea for the rest of his life, “…a town located in a war-stricken cultural wasteland on the remotest margins of the empire”.

    i.e., Romania. It’s come a long way since then, lol.

  32. Dave Hardy says:

    “You were right, Mr. OFD.”

    cue to lame paraphrase of Nick Nolte’s character in “The Thin Red Line:”

    “We don’t need to hear you tell us I’m right. We’ll ASSUME it.”

  33. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] I guess I’m missing something, unless pc got her. You are still allowed to dis an opponent aren’t you? [snip]

    But DWS was supposed to be above the fray; as chair of the DNC she is only supposed to be concerned w/ getting a D elected. Obviously, she’s an ardent supporter of Empress Clinton, and has been for some time, but steering the party towards the ‘correct’ outcome looks bad. No one cares, of course, but that’s a discussion for another day.

  34. Dave Hardy says:

    I find it hilarious that peeps whine about how terrible the sniping between parties and candidates is these days when during the 19th-C it could be truly vicious, to the extent of duels being fought.

    ….duels being fought…

    ….things that make you go hmmmmmmm…..

    Not a bad idea for those to come back? Public? Pay-per-view? Nah, wouldn’t fly; no one out there with the ballz anymore.

  35. dkreck says:

    Doncha love the way the dems are falling all over themselves because Kaine can habla espanol? Let’s see, Cruz, Rubio and Jeb can too. Even George Bush can speak some. Half the people around me also. So what?

    Dueling. Excellent.

  36. SteveF says:

    I can speak and read some Scottish Gaelic, Danish, German, French, Spanish, Latin, Eastern Arabic, Russian, Japanese, Korean, and Mandarin. I can read enough Old Norse, Icelandic, Old English, and related languages to puzzle out the gist of the text. And yet I don’t see a pile of Dems melting down over my awesomeness.

    (A pity, that. Awesomeness like mine should result in me being declared a World Treasure.)

    (Note that I’m not fluent in any language except English. I know enough to get along for light conversation, getting directions, and formerly extracting militarily useful information.)

  37. Dave Hardy says:

    “… can speak and read some Scottish Gaelic, Danish, German, French, Spanish, Latin, Eastern Arabic, Russian, Japanese, Korean, and Mandarin. I can read enough Old Norse, Icelandic, Old English…”

    I can do 16th-C Lallans Scots, a bit of middle-skool Parisian French and some Quebecois French, and I used to be able to do classical and medieval Latin, medieval Italian, Old Norse, Old English, and Old French. I still somehow remember bits of Vietnamese, Laotian, Thai and Khmer, but like they say, if you don’t use it, you lose it.

    So I’m not awesome at all and not even a county treasure. Sad.

    And I will fall over the next candidate who is fluent in Arabic, Russian or Chinese as he or she might be able to jaw-jaw with potential WWIV enemies instead of waw-waw.

    Why do I insist on using WWIV instead of WWIII? Well, besides being an ornery and nasty old cuss, my view is that WWIII was the Cold War, which we also lost, and the so-called Vietnam War was the Second Indochina War. The next one will indeed be IV and coincidentally or ironically, will also be Fourth Generation Warfare.

    About halfway through “Shot Through the Heart,” from 1998, concerning the events in the former Yugoslavia. Available in its entirety on the Tube.

  38. lynn says:

    Nah, we won the cold war. That culminated with the removal of the Berlin wall and the reunification of Germany. And the failure and subsequent dismantlement of the Soviet Union. The USA survived the Cold War (albeit at great expense), the Soviets did not.

    Now the USA is becoming the Soviet Union. I figure that we have a generation until the millennials take over and finish the job. Unless, they wake up and smell the lies. The millennials do not remember the bread lines in Russia in the 1990s and do not believe the facts about just how bad it was there.

    All men are equal but some men are are more equal than others. We keep on making the same mistake over and over again.

  39. lynn says:

    I binge watched the second season of “Wayward Pines” this weekend. What a ripoff of “The Time Machine” by H. G. Wells ! Basically the story line is that a scientist calculates that the civilized world will end soon due to pollution, invents suspended animation pods, and has 1,000 people sleep for 2,000 years. The sleepers awake and find that mankind devolved to a hairless subhuman with canines who can only scream and grunt instead of dying off. So, we have time change with the Eloi and the Morlocks. The visuals are great and the story line is ok even with the extreme greeniness. I have not seen the first season yet and will continue to watch the second season (one more episode). But, it is based on false precepts and must be taken so.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayward_Pines

  40. Dave Hardy says:

    This: “Nah, we won the cold war.”

    And then this: “Now the USA is becoming the Soviet Union.”

    Does not compute. And is my reasoning for saying that we lost the Cold War; the hot stuff was done in proxy escapades but they mainly won without firing a shot and now We are Them. Complete with our very own gulag.

    “We keep on making the same mistake over and over again.”

    There it is. Every. Single. Generation.

    Two steps forward and three steps back. Every generation.

    I stopped watching “Shot Through the Heart” about halfway through, right after a young girl was gratuitously shot by a murdering sniping bastard. Anyone who kills a child like that, war or not, should be slowly vivisected while held together by electrified barbed wire over a very slow fire for many days. So, too depressing for a Sunday night; I’ll resume it tomorrow night. May have some good tips for dealing with a combined Venezuela/Yugoslavia situation.

  41. Dave Hardy says:

    After a while, ya kinda feel like just giving up on peeps who gleefully welcome their own rape and murder:

    https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/07/24/diversity-is-our-strength-2/

  42. Dave Hardy says:

    I feel bad closing out Sunday night with so much depressing Eeyore chit, so have a laff and a half on ol’ OFD:

    https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/07/24/via-twitter-6/

  43. brad says:

    Interest rates are pretty crazy everywhere. Here, the national bank is trying to keep the Swiss franc down, so the interest rates for large deposits are around -1%. We genuinely do not have inflation; it’s more a question of when the big employers will come out with salary cuts. That will take some guts, but I expect it to happen if interest rates stay negative for more than another year or two. It’s a weird world, when you are better off with money under your mattress.

    her response is to move to Europe

    Well, it depends on where in Europe. Just like there are places in the US that are better or worse, it’s the same here. There may the the danger of the odd Islamist attack, but most of Europe has nothing equivalent to your black underclass, which is the bigger problem in the US. I’d happily live in Germany, Spain, Norway, etc.. The UK is also fine, though I have problems with the deeply ingrained class system.

  44. lynn says:

    I found this “SUNVP Military Fanny Pack Tactical Waist Bag Pack Waterproof Hip Belt Bag Pouch for Hiking Climbing Outdoor Bumbag” for $20. Claims to be waterproof so I asked the community:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BSMEHKM/

    Looks like it would fit my wallet and Shield 9mm just fine.

    While I was at HEB tonight, I noticed that they do have a 30.07 sign but no 30.06 sign. The 30.06 sign in Texas is no concealed carry. The 30.07 sign in Texas is no open carry.

  45. brad says:

    This just in: A Syrian immigrant whose refugee application was refused just explodified himself in Bavaria. The weird statement in the article: “his motives remain unclear”.

    The stupid thing – the thing that no European country has under control: This guy came to Germany two years ago. His refugee application was refused one year ago. And yet, he was still in Germany.

    An immigrant should be restricted to an immigration center while their case is considered, which should not take more than a few weeks. Then they are either released and welcomed into the country, or immediately returned home. It’s not fair to anyone – neither the host country nor the applicants – to leave them in an indefinite, horrible non-status. It means that they have too much time on their hands; they get into mischief, often join criminal gangs – it’s just a mess. In this case, the guy was suicidal, and pissed off. “His motives remain unclear” – no, they aren’t unclear at all…

  46. Nick Flandrey says:

    Re. HEB, they are no open carry, but fine with concealed. It was on the news prior to OC going into effect.n

  47. Dave says:

    I think free shipping is killing them, particularly since they usually ship a $50 order that has four or five items in it in two or three separate shipments. That’s why they’re now defaulting to free pickup instead of shipping the stuff.

    I’m sure the cost of free shipping is hurting them. But Walmart is first and foremost a chain of retail stores. Like any retail store, they make most of their money by selling things, and getting people in the front door of the store is the first step to selling them something.

  48. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Oh, I’m sure that Walmart wants to get people into its stores, but they also want to develop a web-based business that can compete with Amazon. That’s no small task.

  49. DadCooks says:

    “Doncha love the way the dems are falling all over themselves because Kaine can habla espanol?”

    I trust a man who knows a good taco salad 😉
    Trump 2016 He knows his taco salad

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