Saturday, 23 July 2016

09:13 – We closed on the house in Winston yesterday, so we’re back to owning only one home. The next major project is to get our gravel driveway paved. I’ll call to get quotes Monday.

Email from Brittany, whose prepping is proceeding apace. Her foil-Mylar bags and oxygen absorbers have arrived, and they have a repackaging party scheduled for this weekend. They also picked up another two 50-pound bags of sugar, four 50-pound bags of flour, four 25-pound bags of beans, four 25-pound bags of white rice, about 50 pounds of pasta, 50 pounds of oatmeal, and 25 pounds of cornmeal, so with what they already had there’s a lot of repackaging to be done. Brittany happily notes that they now have enough to feed the four of them for six months, mostly in bulk staples, but with a reasonable amount of canned meats, sauces, and other foods as well. They also have a large order of Augason Farms stuff in #10 cans on the way from Walmart. And her husband is busy building shelves in the basement to store all this stuff once it’s repackaged. Brittany says that just looking at the piles of stuff is enough to make her feel much more secure, which is a common reaction of new preppers who’ve started to accumulate reasonable amounts of supplies.

We built another 28 chemistry kits yesterday, which takes our finished goods inventory on those to about four dozen. We’ll get started today on another batch of biology kits. Once we get those complete, it’ll be lather, rinse, and repeat though August and into September. In prior years, there’ve been weeks when I was so busy shipping kits that I didn’t have time to build more. I think our all-time record was 34 kits in one day. With Barbara available full-time this year, keeping up shouldn’t be a problem.


09:25 – Science is never “settled”, as any real scientist understands. How a Guy From a Montana Trailer Park Overturned 150 Years of Biology


72 Comments and discussion on "Saturday, 23 July 2016"

  1. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Just testing…

  2. Nick Flandrey says:

    Ping!

  3. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Things are really slow here. No comments, no email, not even any spam.

  4. SteveF says:

    I spent part of the morning throwing poop at Son#2.

    Really.

    Grandma’s garden needed more fertilizer, so he stood inside the fence and caught the bags I tossed him and then placed them near the rows that needed them.

  5. Dave Hardy says:

    Warmer up here in the north country today; we hit 91 yesterday, which is just unacceptable, and had a series of t-storms rock the area for a while, which cooled things off nicely. But it is now heating up again and it’s kinda humid, too.

    My morning was a bust; dump/recycling center had traffic backed up to the road “We’re shorthanded today; I’m offering out jobs; they’ll call me on the radio when I can move you in, thanks for your patience.” I didn’t stick around and so I bailed and got a couple of other minor errands done. They’re shorthanded because my gun guy got major heart trouble a few months ago and has been out with surgery and rehab since; the fellow ‘Nam vet, a former Army Corps of Engineers officer in the Central Highlands is running for state rep, so he’s mostly out now, too. He came back to the National Guard here and rose to Lt. Col. eventually.

    This kinda heat kicks our butts and we ain’t real ambitious this weekend; gotta drive Mrs. OFD to the airport later for her flight to Denver and then she’s home for a couple of days before leaving again for a week in Chicago and a week in Austin.

    My big plan for the next three weeks is to do some painting inside and out, keep watering the eff outta all the plants, get a mount set up under the steering column for you know what, do general cleanup throughout the house room by room, and get a fan or A-C unit humming in the attic so I can get back to hacking on my new work space up there. And to continue with online courses I’ve been neglecting, including the ham licenses, FFL paperwork, and whatever IT I can put to use here at home and in the AO later, mainly network/commo/security-related.

    Hope to sign up for bicycle mechanic classes down in Burlap for the fall, and also the Vermont Master Gardener and Master Composter certs.

    Currently have Red Cross First Responder/First Aid cert and the FMRS/GRS license. I’d like to upgrade both of these at some point and also get some FEMA courses done.

    And I see that the wiki leaks concerning the DNC shitstorm are getting some play in the media, showing what foul and nasty fuckers these people are, and the blutbad in Munchen was conducted by yet another Religion of Pieces adherent, allegedly a “German-Iranian,” which is EXACTLY what Bracken was talking about (musloids raping German women and future generations of Teutonic Musloids).

    Congrats to the Montana trailer park scientist; the fields of astronomy and archaeology have also long had amateurs discovering new chit.

  6. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Of course, the headline didn’t mention that the trailerpark guy was a Ph.D. biologist.

  7. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    A “professional” archaeologist is called an “archaeologist”.

    An amateur archaeologist is called a “pothunter”.

    Most of the discoveries in astronomy have been made by amateurs, including nowadays those who download huge datasets produced by orbiting telescopes and analyze those datasets for new finds.

  8. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Wow. Since I ordered a pail of Augason Farms brown rice on 6/21/16, the price has increased at Walmart from $24.89 to $27.57, or 10.8%. I just did a quick sample of other AF stuff I’ve ordered from Walmart in #10 cans over the last couple of years, and all of them have gone up significantly. That’s not even counting the price of powdered eggs, which is still outrageous.

  9. Rick H says:

    Just finished reading Stephen Coonts’ “Liberty’s Last Stand” (http://amzn.to/2aiiJnI); enjoyed it. Some interesting parallels to what many think is happening today; and what happened in the book *could* happen in today’s political/social environment.

    What if the current administration decides that two terms is not enough, and uses the occurrence of terrorist acts to declare martial law – and suspend the Constitution? That’s the premise of the book, and there are some interesting parallels to current (and possible) events and politicians.

    Publisher’s Weekly review:

    President Barry Soetoro, the villain of bestseller Coonts’s provocative thriller, is due to leave office in five months when he uses a convenient terrorist attack to declare martial law, adjourn Congress, suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and become the dictator of the United States. He fires CIA director Jake Grafton (last seen in 2013’s Pirate Alley) and throws him in a federal detention center in West Virginia along with hundreds of conservative politicians and political commentators. Grafton’s ex-CIA pal, Tommy Carmellini (also last seen in Pirate Alley), decides he’s going to bust his old boss out of jail. Meanwhile, Texas secedes from the union and begins seizing U.S. military bases. Soetoro’s opponents have a long list of gripes: he’s a “self-proclaimed black messiah,” “Soetorocare” is a disaster, and EPA regulations are “designed to save the climate at the expense of the working men and women of Texas.” Coonts’s excellent action scenes, which shift between Tommy’s jailbreak scheme and the civil war with Texas, grind to a halt as characters stop to give fervent speeches about freedom. Those who don’t care for Obama or his policies will find a lot to like.

    I liked the book.

  10. ech says:

    Most of the discoveries in astronomy have been made by amateurs, including nowadays those who download huge datasets produced by orbiting telescopes and analyze those datasets for new finds.

    Not really. The amateurs lead in comet discovery, but that’s about it. It takes access to major telescopes to do research and amateurs are shut out of them for the most part.

  11. Dave Hardy says:

    “Of course, the headline didn’t mention that the trailerpark guy was a Ph.D. biologist.”

    But the article did, and he got there, one of the points of the article, by long and patient struggle and hard work:

    “The path to this discovery began in 2011, when Spribille, now armed with a doctorate, returned to Montana.”

    I wanted to be an archaeologist when I was a kid, after reading the accounts of the discoveries much earlier at Troy and on Crete and in Egypt. Dumbass kid stuff and world events put paid to that idea.

    “What if the current administration decides that two terms is not enough, and uses the occurrence of terrorist acts to declare martial law – and suspend the Constitution?”

    Indeed. I’ve long suspected that some National Administrator or other will eventually do this. And look at our two current candidates: one is being given the Full-Hate treatment by the media and the usual suspect groups out there and could end up with a visit by the infamous lone gunman or maybe this is all an elaborate con and he’ll throw it to his opponent anyway. The other is a known felon, war criminal and traitor and is a walking mess of medical and psychiatric issues and probably some kind of substance abuser like her husband has been his whole life. President Barry may well decide that for reasons of “national security,” say, after another funny “terrorist” attack on the U.S., he needs to stay at the switch for another four years.

    And if Texas tries to secede, he’ll have no compunction about rolling in B52 strikes and armored columns.

  12. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Yeah, really. Professsional astronomers spend no time actually looking at the night sky through those large terrestrial scopes. Those and the orbiting large scopes, optical and radio, are booked years/decades in advance on defined projects, mostly surveys. They generate terebytes of digital and photographic data, most of which is available to anyone for the download. It’s not just comets. It’s multiple and variable stars and particularly exoplanets.

  13. Dave Hardy says:

    I’d rather look at the night sky, if only through my 10×50 Orion binocs. We get SOME light pollution here from the glows in the sky via Plattsburgh, Burlap, the “city” of Saint Albans and distantly from Moh-ree-all 75 miles to our north. But on a clear fall or winter night it’s pretty nice here on the bay; we remember the night sky, however, on the northeastern coast of PEI some years ago; it was amazing. At some point we’ll take a look from deep in the Adirondacks and the western Maine mountains.

  14. Miles_Teg says:

    When I regularly drove between Canberra and Adelaide I’d sometimes stop somewhere between Hay and the NSW/Vic/SA border and just admire the night sky. I wish I had a property way out in the boondocks.

    But even if there is a nearby town viewing can be worthwhile if you have the right filters on your telescope.

  15. ech says:

    Professsional astronomers spend no time actually looking at the night sky through those large terrestrial scopes. Those and the orbiting large scopes, optical and radio, are booked years/decades in advance on defined projects, mostly surveys.

    Nope. They aren’t just doing surveys. Some of the scopes are set up for surveys and that’s what they do. Most are doing targeted observations of specific objects for specific reasons. For example, my senior research was based on spectrographs taken on the large scope at Cerro Tololo in Chile. He had booked the time to do spectrographs of a number of planetary nebulae and other gas clouds. I did the data reduction from the scans of the spectrographs and we published a paper. My software for doing the data reduction (photographic density on the plates to light intensity) was ported from the POS computer I was using (a government surplus SDS mainframe from the 60s, written in FORTRAN II) to more modern computers and was eventually the basis for an elaborate spectrum analysis system.

    The planet hunter data from Kepler is being analyzed by the Kepler team before being released for the crowdsourced data analysis. They find the bulk of the objects and confirm the ones the crowdsourcing IDs.

  16. lynn says:

    We closed on the house in Winston yesterday, so we’re back to owning only one home.

    Congratulations ! Feels good to get rid of some responsibility.

  17. MrAtoz says:

    Currently have Red Cross First Responder/First Aid cert and the FMRS/GRS license. I’d like to upgrade both of these at some point and also get some FEMA courses done.

    Don’t forget your drone license, my friend. Don’t leave home without it under penalty of a mag emptied in yo azz.

  18. MrAtoz says:

    Has anybody noticed all WHITEY! Cankles picked an all WHITEY! Kaine (also religious cishetero male lawyer) for VP running mate? The same Cankles who panders to Blacks with her cornpone accent anytime she’s in the South (I guess she has to dumb it down). Do Blacks really think the Klinton Krime Family has their back?

  19. Dave Hardy says:

    “Don’t forget your drone license, my friend.”

    Don’t got no stinkin’ drone, mi amigo!

    “Do Blacks really think the Klinton Krime Family has their back?”

    If so, I pity the foolz. The Klinton Krime Family doesn’t care about blacks, and it doesn’t care about any of the rest of us Dirt People, either. All they care about is money and power, first, last and always, period. If it means getting one Murkan or a million Murkans dead, that don’t make no never mind to them. The Bush Crime Family was/is no better, just do a better job of hiding it.

    More t-storms today, most of the afternoon, torrential downpours. And hail. Yes we get ice from the sky in July in Vermont! Bouncing off the windshield as I drove Mrs. OFD to the airport.

  20. Ray Thompson says:

    Finally got my subpoena to appear in court as a witness for the state regarding my accident of 27 months ago. The guy was stoned, blood tests confirmed it. I have been to court six times and nothing has been done. First he did not have a lawyer, next two times the blood tests had not been received (it took a year for the tests). Then another couple of delays as his attorney argued successfully for a change in date (I was not in the court, just outside the doors). Next court the lawyer argued to have the case moved to criminal court.

    Had a subpoena to appear in criminal court a couple of months ago but the investigating trooper was not able to make the date thus another date assigned. I now have a new date of August 10 when I have to appear as a witness for the state.

    Meanwhile the cretin keeps driving as he has only been charged, not convicted. By delaying the case a couple of his multiple DUI’s that are more than five years past cannot be considered when sentencing.

    I don’t really know what to expect. The facts are clear. What can I add? The charges are DUI, Reckless Endangerment, Failure to Yield and some more that don’t appear on the subpoena.

    Are they going to ask how fast I was going (45, the limit)? Are they going to ask how I know (GPS)? Was I looking at the GPS or the road (road as the speed limit changed a mile back and the GPS speed indicator turns red when you exceed the limit and it was not red)? Is his defense going to try and rip me apart along with the trooper?

    And since this is no longer a traffic court but a criminal court can I sue the other chap once he has been convicted for more damages, such emotional harm, he had a crappy haircut, etc.? I am not a defendant but a victim. Does that change how I am treated?

    DA at one time asked what I wanted for punishment. I stated six months in prison and five years loss of license. That was when the case was in traffic court. Does that now change and will I get a chance to state my choices as a victim in criminal court?

    Lot of unanswered questions. Should be interesting.

  21. Dave Hardy says:

    “…next two times the blood tests had not been received (it took a year for the tests).”

    Gee, how come they can charge a person with DUI and over whatever prescribed state limit almost immediately after traffic stops? Sounds like total bullshit to me. As are all the date changes and other excuses. Is this guy wealthy or something? Got a hotshot shyster playing the angles and gaming the system for him?

    “I stated six months in prison and five years loss of license.”

    I used to say that in cases of multiple DUIs, we cut off their hands so they can’t drive again, but that obviously won’t work if they can get prostheses, amirite? So blind them. Let’s see them drive now. One of the Boston tee-vee nooz stations a million years ago sent their “I-Team” to local courthouse parking lots, and got a whole slew of convicted DUI people on camera who’d just lost their licenses for multiple DUIs; yup, they got in their rides and drove away.

    If it was me or one of my family who got injured or killed by some asshole like this, and the state screwed around with it forever and then didn’t do much about it, I sure would.

    Good luck on the next caper, Mr. Ray.

  22. SteveF says:

    I am not a defendant but a victim. Does that change how I am treated?

    Are you white? Male? Cisgendered? You’re looking at some serious jail time, you bastard.

  23. Dave Hardy says:

    “You’re looking at some serious jail time, you bastard.”

    Gee whiz, I was trying to cheer him up and then you go and lay that on him! True, but still…

    Ack-shoo-ally I believe the perp is also a cis-hetero white male, too. How the hell is the court NOW supposed to rule? It’s almost like the Left trying to squirm out from under the nightmarish incident in Orlando: Who do they blame? A bi-sexual musloid shot up a homosexual night club and killed a bunch of them, but most of them were ALSO Hispanic! What to do, what to do….multiple aggrieved and officially sanctified grievance groups, so what they did was blame it on the guns, natch, and of course the mythical Twelve Years of Reagan-Bush. Perfect. Now no one talks about it, ’cause we have other wild-ass nooz events.

  24. Jim M says:

    RBT >”I just did a quick sample of other AF stuff I’ve ordered from Walmart in #10 cans over the last couple of years, and all of them have gone up significantly.”

    That might be because you provided them with some effective advertising. However that may be, I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge. Also, the more successful they are, the more likely that similar vendors will get into the market.

  25. Dave Hardy says:

    http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2016/07/center-of-face-center-of-mass.html

    Thanks, Gabe. G. Gordon Liddy and OFD were clued into this decades ago. When OFD fired expert repeatedly with various handguns back in the day, my bulls-eye tight groups were face/throat shots.

    Put one in the perp’s face and he’s gotta stop and think a second before he topples.

    Carry options, amigos:

    https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/07/21/bracken-orlando-carry/

  26. Dave Hardy says:

    When seconds count…

    https://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2016/07/we-have-duty-to-submit-they-have-no.html

    …the police are only minutes away…

    …or not there for you AT ALL.

    But they WILL bounce your ass on the pavement if you look at them wrong during a MV stop, tase you, shoot you, whatever.

    And once again for those interested; this kinda chit happens FAR more to white people even allowing for populations and percentages and ratios than it does to minorities in this country. I’d estimate that during my entire short “career” as a LEO back in the days of revolvers and billy clubs, that in 98% of my negative and/or violent contacts with citizens, they were WHITE assholes.

    Incidentally, William Grigg is an American hero and has been documenting LE and State abuses for a very long time and does it very well. He also cares for a seriously invalid wife at home while running his site and writing.

  27. lynn says:

    “Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS”
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/23/kerry-air-conditioners-as-big-threat-as-isis.html

    We cannot get rid of these high flying bozos fast enough to keep them from doing serious damage to us.

  28. Nick Flandrey says:

    Ditto DiCaprio jetting off to climate change summits and flying in all his friends as a cheering section.

    N

  29. MrAtoz says:

    I looked at some of the “murse” options for carry since I carry a bag most of the time. I also like the comment about the “center of face” shots”: use a shotgun for the home. I agree, especially if SWAT comes a knockin’ by “accident.” The won’t be held accountable, of course, so you might as well open up.

  30. Dave Hardy says:

    “They won’t be held accountable, of course, so you might as well open up.”

    That’s just it; maybe if a few of these “wrong address” SWATtings resulted in invading SWATters being shot up, they’d make damn sure they had the right effin address from then on. Whatever happened to LE “casing” a building to ascertain address and occupants before jumping off on it? It seems like they simply look chit up on a computer or phone book listing and light it up immediately. Get. Out. of. the. Cars.

    Burlap has started with the paired-officers joke (PR stunt) but at least in the downtown areas they’re out on FOOT. And bicycles. And the boats on the lake. Why not the mounted officers again? I sometimes see officers out on foot in the “city” downtown up the road but it’s rare. Small city, small town, small department; I understand they gotta suddenly race off to a call four miles away.

    We fervently hope, however, that there are no more shootings involving police from one side or the other for a good long while. That could easily escalate to levels we don’t wanna see.

  31. SteveF says:

    Prosecutors and judges, and political influences on the “justice” system, could end most of the grievance against the police by bringing kidnapping, burglary, and murder charges against police for wrong address SWAT raids, bogus arrests, unjustified shootings, and other crimes for which “civilians” would be made examples of. Sure, members of the grievance demographic will never be happy, but this step would bring the non-parasitic demographic back to supporting the police. If complaints about police can be reduced to urban blacks, Muslims, and illegal immigrant Hispanics, the non-parasitic majority will likely support “harsh measures” to stop killings of police.

    Will prosecutors and judges take this step? Signs point to No.

  32. Dave Hardy says:

    Agreed, 1,000 %.

    The classes involved with the power to make those changes are running scared; they’ll continue to accept LE abuses as a trade-off for their own safety and security. There probably won’t be any decent reforms or changes at all and eventually the system will run out of money to pay them anyway, and then we gon hab us some fun. This is another part of the existing governmental structure that needs a total reboot; incremental patches ain’t gonna do it.

  33. Ray Thompson says:

    “Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS”

    Specifically all air conditioners except the ones that he uses.

  34. Dave Hardy says:

    “Specifically all air conditioners except the ones that he uses.”

    Of course. Limousine libtard hypocrisy per usual. Been going on for decades; some of us remember the Boston busing capers. And “urban renewal.” Not to mention the ongoing anti-gun-rights hysteria and machinations while they’re protected by SS and private security and/or have CCW permits themselves.

    Bitter irony for me is that we’re distantly related to Vinegar John, going back to colonial times, and he’s a fellow ‘Nam vet, you know, the guy who threw another ‘Nam vet’s medals over that fence. Lives up on Beacon Hill with private parking spaces. And owns several of the Elizabeth Islands (named after you-know-who, and they should have called her “Bloody Betty”) off the elbow of Cape Cod.

  35. SteveF says:

    we’re distantly related to Vinegar John

    See, that’s like announcing that you wet your bed until you were twelve. Yah, maybe it’s a fact and most likely you’re not proud of it, but there’s no reason to go telling everyone about it. Private shame. Private.

  36. Dave Hardy says:

    I am suitably chastened and hang my head accordingly.

    You did see the words “distantly” and “colonial times,” amirite?

  37. paul says:

    Too distantly related for Vinegar John to “fix” your IRS problems? Ain’t much of a relative.

  38. Dave Hardy says:

    We’re related to a host of Jamestown, Mayflower, and Winthrop Fleet descendants but have had very little contact with any of them, save for a couple of ladies from the Carolinas whom I met briefly over forty years ago.

    But now that you mention it, maybe I’ll write to him and ask if there’s anything he can do for a fellow ‘Nam vet and relative, lol. Sorta like some lowlife serf bastard of some prince writing to Thomas Cromwell or Francis Walsingham later for a small favor, a boon. Can’t hurt, amirite?

  39. Ray Thompson says:

    maybe I’ll write to him and ask if there’s anything he can do for a fellow ‘Nam vet

    Nothing to lose by doing so and a lot to gain. It is amazing how the layers of bureaucratic nonsense can be peeled away by someone with some clout. You are just a sniveling little cockroach that is to be crushed at any opportunity and the IRS has the boots and they know it. When someone with bigger boots gets involved the tables can be turned.

  40. SteveF says:

    It probably wouldn’t hurt to contact Kerry, but maybe it would be more productive to get hold of the Mayflower Madam. There’s a chance you’re related to her, too, right? And she’s probably better at the “you ‘massage’ my ‘back’, I’ll ‘massage’ yours” game.

  41. lynn says:

    I looked at some of the “murse” options for carry since I carry a bag most of the time.

    I want a waterproof waist bag to carry my shield 9mm on my nightly two mile walks. Haven’t found one yet. My son says that will telegraph to everyone that I am carrying regardless of any printing. Waterproof because I sweat like a pig in this weather. Maybe this one:
    https://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Valuables-Swimming-Snorkeling-Guarantee/dp/B01DDXRVES/

  42. Dave Hardy says:

    “…maybe it would be more productive to get hold of the Mayflower Madam. There’s a chance you’re related to her, too, right?”

    No relation that I know of to the Biddles of Philadelphia; we was Jamestown-Plymouth-Boston-Nantucket. Still kinda cute, though a year and a half older than me.

    “My son says that will telegraph to everyone that I am carrying regardless of any printing.”

    I dunno, the Shield is pretty small and you’re a sizable young gent; this brings up a dumb question; what does your SON do in this situation? Must be as hot and humid for him as it is for you and I assume he also does CCW….???

  43. SteveF says:

    It’s been the assumption for probably ten years that any buttpack or similar pouch which is big enough to hold a pistol is holding a pistol.

  44. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Just get a big-ass iPad case and hack it suitably. Nobody’ll think twice about it.

  45. Nick Flandrey says:

    I just carry my shield at 4 IWB under a good shirt when I want to be lightweight and casual.

    If I need it to be in a bag, I’ve got an eagle creek document bag. It’s thin and has a flap that closes over it. There is room for the sheild in my iwb holster in the doc pocket, and room for a penlight and a few other small things. The strap is meant to go around your neck, but works fine over a shoulder or crossbody. It’s thin and small enough not to look like a holster. And if you have a phone and light in it, you have a visible reason to be carrying it. I’ll try to find a pic later.

    Nick

  46. Nick Flandrey says:

    IPAD case might attract bad element.

    N

  47. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    iPhone case, then. I never had any problem carrying my Colt Combat Commander concealed. They don’t call it “Old Slabsides” for nothing. With 7 in the mag, 1 chambered, and a Sparks 6-pack, I had 50 rounds ready to go.

  48. Dave Hardy says:

    My Shield w/LaserMax is OWB at 4 in a DeSantis black leather holster; extra mag at 8. Switches back and forth to Gum Creek mount under the steering column of the RAV4, to be switched out later with either the CZ P09 w/combo laser/light or the Glock 40 (10mm) also w/combo laser/light. I’m large enough to tote the P09 in warm weather up here under an untucked shirt or sport coat but the Glock is pushing it, with the 6″ slide.

    If I lived in a stinking humid hot climate I’d do about the same, assuming a solid CCW permit (which we don’t need up here). I’ve lived in such a climate before but we didn’t worry too much about visibility and “printing,” lol. Also hard to CCW with The Pig.

  49. Nick Flandrey says:

    With open carry I’m a whole lot less worried about printing. In fact some days it’d be more like F’em I’m not the only one and I know it.

    Still, sometimes you need to be discrete.

    Nick

  50. Dave Hardy says:

    It is written: Discretion is the bettah paht of valuh.

    I know full well that plenty of derps up here are CCW, too. Good. The more the merrier.

    For it is also written: An armed society is a polite society.

    Thus endeth the lesson.

  51. lynn says:

    I dunno, the Shield is pretty small and you’re a sizable young gent; this brings up a dumb question; what does your SON do in this situation? Must be as hot and humid for him as it is for you and I assume he also does CCW….???

    “young”. Snicker.

    XDM .40 in IWB. But he wears polo shirts everywhere and I wear oxford shirts tucked in.

  52. lynn says:

    You gotta be discrete in HEB. I doubt that they are going to want to look inside a fanny pack.

  53. Dave says:

    But he wears polo shirts everywhere and I wear oxford shirts tucked in.

    I feel so underdressed, I wear T-shirts most of the time.

  54. Dave Hardy says:

    “But he wears polo shirts everywhere and I wear oxford shirts tucked in.”

    Then perhaps you might consider changing your attire just a bit; what can fashion matter in that heat? If he’s successfully packing that with a polo shirt, you should be able to carry the Shield, and there are certainly lots of materials available nowadays to counter sweat/water and remain concealable.

  55. MrAtoz says:

    The Vegas cops have proved many times, if you open carry here, you will get hassled until you do something that the cops don’t like, and will arrest you. You’ll not get charged, but have to go through the hassle of getting booked. I doubt you could sue and win these cases. I expect an open carry demonstration here sometime. What would the cops do? One wrong move and SWAT would open up, probably. Where’s my “murse”, gotta go out.

  56. MrAtoz says:

    I have yet to see a casino sign “No Guns”. I was reading a NV lawyer blog that said “carry concealed” the casino will not know. If you are “found out” they will just ask you to leave. Where’s my “murse”, bingo is starting.

  57. lynn says:

    “But he wears polo shirts everywhere and I wear oxford shirts tucked in.”

    Then perhaps you might consider changing your attire just a bit; what can fashion matter in that heat? If he’s successfully packing that with a polo shirt, you should be able to carry the Shield, and there are certainly lots of materials available nowadays to counter sweat/water and remain concealable.

    Sorry, trying to remain somewhat professional by wearing Dockers and Oxford shirts. Polos just are not very professional. But, they are very comfortable.

    And what heat ? It is 75 F and low humidity here in my office. And 72 F in my house. It is just that two mile outside walk through hell that I push myself daily. But for the walk, I wear workout shorts and a loose tank top. That is why I am thinking about getting a fanny pack for my Shield 9mm. Using an IWB on those workout shorts would have them around my ankles in short order and no one wants that.

  58. lynn says:

    The Vegas cops have proved many times, if you open carry here, you will get hassled until you do something that the cops don’t like, and will arrest you. You’ll not get charged, but have to go through the hassle of getting booked.

    My son was open carrying in Pahrump a couple of years ago. But not in Vegas.

  59. Dave Hardy says:

    “But for the walk, I wear workout shorts and a loose tank top.”

    There is a variety of options available, as might be imagined, for summer heat clothing like that, whether in TX or Maine.

  60. nick says:

    @lynn,

    Comp tac super tuck for the office and a belly band for the shorts…..

    nick

  61. SteveF says:

    If it’s really that hot out, why wear anything? Well, you’ll want a pair of sneakers, or at least flip-flops, to protect your feet from dog poop and broken glass, but other than that, you should select your (lack of) clothing for maximum ventilation.

    And then, because you obviously have no pockets, it won’t be at all odd-looking that you have a small backpack or something. And if that backpack happens to be carrying a loaded pistol, well, that’s no one’s business but your own.

  62. lynn says:

    Comp tac super tuck for the office and a belly band for the shorts…..

    I take it that you do not like the fanny bag ?

    And then, because you obviously have no pockets, it won’t be at all odd-looking that you have a small backpack or something. And if that backpack happens to be carrying a loaded pistol, well, that’s no one’s business but your own.

    Saw a dude out walking last night that had his full freak on. He was wearing some kind of a partially clear face mask with a white ball in his mouth. The white ball was attached to his weird looking camo backpack by two breathing tubes.

    My shorts do have pockets. The left pocket has two spare AA batteries and my Fenix E21 flashlight. The right pocket has three dog poop bags. Anything else in those pockets (like the wife’s uber heavy smartphone with her one inch bouncy cover) pulls my shorts down over time.

    The only way I want to carry is in a fanny bag. That belly band looks hot, I would sweat that bad boy up in the first mile.

    The left hand is holding the leash on a hyperactive 13 year old 35 lb cocker spaniel. The right hand is currently open.

  63. nick says:

    Well, it was the late 80’s and I was riding a motorcycle, so I’ll take the fifth on the fashion aspects, but a heavy fanny pack, esp when worn in the front as you do with a carry bag, is banging into your junk all the time. It also gets HOT behind that pack.

    Give it a try if you want, but it’s not comfortable, and it doesn’t stay put.

    There are some spandex underwear with a soft holster pocket sewn in, but I can’t remember the name.

    If I’m not jogging, I can carry my LC9 IWB of my briefs, with the clip catching both the briefs and the shorts’ waistband in the 4 oclock position. My shorts stay up fine.

    I’m using a very lightweight holster, but it has a big pad, so a lot of surface area to help hold it in place against you.

    https://www.n82tactical.com/products/holsters/ (the site design sux rox, click on different style holsters until you get to the original to see the one I’ve been using daily for over a year.)

    nick

  64. SteveF says:

    I just had the brilliantest idea! Almost all pistols are made of steel, right? And what does steel stick to? Magnets! So all you need to do is get subdermal magnets implanted right around your tailbone and then you can stick the magnet to your skin and it won’t pull your drawers down and expose you to the ridicule and/or admiration of the public!

    No no, no need to thank me. Brilliance like this is a natural byproduct of simply being my awesome self.

  65. Ray Thompson says:

    So all you need to do is get subdermal magnets implanted right around your tailbone

    Just don’t walk through a hardware store. It will be tough to explain those 23 screwdrivers hanging from your pants. A ball bearing factory would be a disaster.

  66. MrAtoz says:

    Stop hating on fanny packs and murses! What do you expect us beta-males to use?

  67. Dave Hardy says:

    Dirt People don’t need assault weapons; only the police and armed forces should have them.

  68. lynn says:

    Stop hating on fanny packs and murses! What do you expect us beta-males to use?

    You ain’t no beta. Your name is all over the pick up lists when her Royal Highness Hillary becomes Supreme Leader of the USA.

  69. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I’m a gamma male, if not an omega. I used to be alpha, but no more.

  70. Dave Hardy says:

    Once was beta delta male but now, at best, kappa, as in “You come aroun’ here anymore and I kappa your ass!”. More likely Omega Man.

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