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I'm seriously upset with Hewlett-Packard. So much so that I'm
considering pulling all of their products from my recommended lists. It
has nothing to do with the products themselves, which are typically
best-of-breed or nearly so. What I'm upset about is their business
policies. A few months ago, I stopped by the HP web site to download
current drivers for one of their products. Rather than take me directly to
the download page, the site insisted that I first register.
This increasingly common practice is completely unacceptable to me and,
I think, to almost anyone who thinks it through. What possible reason does
HP have to require registration to download drivers that are useful only
to someone who owns the product in question? That being the case, why
should a person who wants to download the current drivers for a product
that he bought and paid for have to provide any information whatsoever
before doing so?
Well, I needed the driver update because this scanner has stopped
working reliably with the USB interface. HP showed a USB update, the
description for which listed the exact problems I was having. So I had no
choice but to comply with their obnoxious requirements. I had already
registered and created an account, you understand. But that wasn't enough.
No, they insisted on more. Purchase date, for example. Three fields,
month, day, and year, all required. Does that mean that they're
going to stop providing free driver updates after a certain time? Okay, I
made something up there. The next required field was "For what
purpose will your new HP product primarily be used?" Give me a break.
Required? What justification is there for that? The next required field
was serial number. What on earth do they need the serial number for? To
prove that I have one of their damned scanners? Why would I would be
downloading a driver for a 6200C if I didn't have one?
Presumably, they do some kind of field validation on the serial number,
so I had no choice but to find it on the scanner itself. That was an
adventure in itself, trying to lift the scanner carefully so as not to rip
out other wires running near the back of it, lean over my work surface so
that I could read the serial number (on the back, under an overhang, and
upside down, no less), quickly memorize it and enter it into their damned
form. I almost dropped the scanner while doing that. Would HP have
repaired or replaced the scanner if I'd dropped it, since it would have
been their fault? I don't think so.
Having gotten the serial number, entered it in the form and clicked
submit, they next display an obnoxious page that confirms that I've
updated my profile (which I didn't want to create in the first place),
gratuitously thanks me for "sharing" my profile (as though I had
any choice), and tells me that they will now use that information to send
me, among other things, "special offers". In other words, spam.
And they don't offer any way to opt out that I can see.
This is completely unacceptable, on several levels. HP is no longer on
my recommended list.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Waggoner [waggoner at gis dot net]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 11:38 AM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Upgrades & CABS
I'm not into self-flagellation; my own
experiences have confirmed that upgrading an MS OS is by far the more
painful route. WinMag also gives the editorial advice to ALWAYS do a
clean install of MS OS'es, not an upgrade. Over the last year, everyone
who came to me with Win98 problems turned out to be an upgrade installed
over Win95. I advised to wipe clean and install Win98--result was all
problems solved, in every case.
Before discovering this for myself, I, too,
suffered from multiple problems on one machine which was upgraded from
Win95 to 98--every one of which disappeared when I stripped down to bare
magnets and installed 98 clean.
Re: Mr. Donders' question of where to put
the CAB files. For me, the whole purpose of putting the CAB files on
hard drive is to install Windows directly from that drive. This yields
two benefits: 1) it's at least twice as fast as doing the same from CD;
and 2) Windows remembers to go there to get stuff when you Add/Remove
software features--otherwise it will nag for the CD.
During normal installation, Windows creates
a directory called \Windows\OPTIONS\CABS. Pournelle has indicated on his
pages this is where to copy the CAB files (actually, I copy the whole
Win98 disk there, as you then have the setup executable and all other
files needed for installation). But by all means, create that
sub-directory and copy the files there first with a DOS boot disk (with
CD device configured). Then installation is so much easier.
I don't have any experience with Win98SE.
Microsoft says it's the same as Win98 with Service Pack 1 applied using
their update site, so it seems wise to save that money for something
else.
I'd have to agree with all that. I've never had any luck with
"upgrade" installations, and gave up attempting them years ago.
Ultimately, it's faster just to strip the drive down to bare metal,
install the OS fresh, and re-install all applications. And things always
work better when done that way. I do wish that Microsoft made available
some mechanism to allow configuration data for applications to be saved
and moved to the new system, thereby configuring the app in one step. They
used to have such a mechanism. They called it .ini files. In many
respects, the registry is no improvement on .ini files. Nor is the idea of
using shared DLLs. With hard disk space at about $10/GB and memory at
$1/MB, I'd just as soon go back to the old style of storing an application
with all its necessary files in one directory, which would allow us to
relocate/re-install an app simply by cutting and pasting the directory.
Microsoft hasn't done us any favors with their "improved"
methods. If they won't go back to using .ini files, they should at least
provide a mechanism to locate and store all pertinent registry entries for
an app in a stand-alone file that could subsequently be merged with the
clean registry on the new system. How hard would that be?
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Sherburne Jr [mailto:ryszards@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 1:51 PM
To: 'thompson@ttgnet.com'
Subject: RE: Dual celeron II use
It appears Intel may have plans for MP use
of CII celerons after all. Intel just released a new celeron spec
update, found here.
It contains a number of newly added errata
that pertain specifically and only to MP use of the FC-PGA Celeron
processors. Particularly errate C53, C56, C57, & C59 refer to errate
that occur in MP systems. What say you, perhaps I was wrong? Or do these
errata indicate the impossibility of use?
Coincidentally, I was reading that Spec Update when your mail
arrived. I was working on S-spec tables for PC/DG, and hadn't noticed the
detailed errata descriptions you refer to. I'm not a microprocessor
designer, but from reading them it seems to me that Intel concedes the
usability of the Celeron in MP environments. At first, I thought that
those specific errata referred to the Pentium III and had been left in the
Celeron Spec Update in error. But Intel labels errata with an initial
letter to designate the processor(s) they pertain to, and "C"
means Celeron.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: McDonell @ The Park [mailto:mcdonell35@earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 2:19 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: RE: Win 98 Upgrade wipes out printing, e-mail, etc.
I agree that MS probably could have nipped
this in the bud. This morning, I read a report that suggests the same
problem might exist with PCs that already had Win98 installed. And, MS
had to issue "Second Edition". I did not dwell on the MS role
but you are a communicator and I thought you would like to see that
others are not. I have advised HP of my adventure and my personal
feelings - a bit like a minnow asking a whale to move over. to their
credit, HP has offered a CD cure but one would not know it without the
internet. Maybe HP gambled that posting was adequate; based perhaps on
the possibility that sales have not met expecations (i.e. lousy).
Examining the HP site gave me a vague impression that the same problem
might be affecting other HP printers. As Mark Twain might say, let us
draw the veil of charity over the rest of the scene.
I agree that HP should have sent email to registered users of
that printer, and that information can be difficult to locate on their web
site. However, I don't really think HP (or the printer) is at fault here.
After all, the printer was working just fine until you switched operating
systems. When one has a functioning system, changes one element, and
something else breaks, it's reasonable to blame the item changed rather
than the item that broke. And it may be reasonable to blame the person who
did the changing. I operate on the ain't broke/don't fix principle, on the
assumption that fixing something unbroken often results in breaking
something else. But then, I learned that back in the days when dinosaurs
roamed the earth and I was writing COBOL code.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Montgomery [mailto:monty@sprintmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 12:47 AM
To: Jerry Pournelle
Cc: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Re: Which "Tyan Trinity" Board?
Subj: Which "Tyan Trinity" Board?
(continued) From: monty@sprintmail.com
Thanks for responding!
Alas, the response does not unambiguously
identify the board you and Mr. Aldridge are using successfully.
There are evidently five Tyan Trinity boards
that have both Super 7 and Slot 1:
Trinity 371 S1857 -- VIA chipset
Trinity 371 S1857-B -- 440BX chipset, no sound
Trinity 371 S1857SLA-B -- 440BX chipset, has sound
Trinity 400 S1854 -- VIA chipset, no sound
Trinity 400 S1854A -- VIA chipset, has sound
The VIA chipset models all support 66 MHz
Ultra IDE, and a 133 MHz front-side bus, while the 440BX only supports
33 MHz Ultra IDE and a 100 MHz FSB.
The Trinity 371 models support only 2x AGP,
while the Trinity 400 models support 4x.
Your coauthor Robert Thompson says, [here],
that "I've never much liked VIA chipsets. In my experience, they're
slow, buggy, and have aggravating incompatibilities." Mr. Thompson
made that comment in the context of a discussion of motherboards for AMD
Athlon CPUs, but the comment seems to indicate a general, rather than an
AMD-specific, reservation about VIA chipsets.
If your experience, and Mr. Aldridge's, with
VIA chipsets, differs from Mr. Thompson's, then perhaps I should
reconsider my own reluctance, based on his comment, to give a
VIA-chipset-based board a try. I do, after all, lust in my heart after
the 66 MHz Ultra IDE. 8-)
Thanks for continuing to do all these
things, so the rest of us don't have to!
Actually, the boards you mention support SC242 (Slot 1) and
Socket 370, rather than Socket 7. The Intel 440BX chipset indeed supports
100 MHz FSB, UDMA/33, and AGP 2X. There are two similar VIA chipsets at
issue. The Apollo Pro133 supports 133 MHz FSB, UDMA/66, and AGP 2X. The
Pro133A is the same, but adds support for AGP4X. All of this goes to show
the danger of buying on numbers, however.
- Nearly all benchmarks show that Apollo Pro133/133A
motherboards using a 133 MHz FSB are actually slower than a
440BX-based board using 100 MHz FSB. When running a 100 MHz FSB
processor (or a 66 MHz FSB Celeron), the VIA boards are much slower
than the 440BX boards.
- UDMA/66 shows little or no throughput advantage relative to
UDMA/33 with even the fastest of the current-generation ATA drives.
The maximum throughput of a drive depends on whether data is being
transferred from the inner or outer tracks. Drives like the Maxtor
DiamondMax Plus 40 barely exceed 30 MB/s at their fastest, and
typically only provide 16 MB/s at their slowest, with perhaps a 22
MB/s average. That's well below even UDMA/33. My best guess is that
we're unlikely to see drives that can actually benefit from UDMA/66
for at least a year or two. Even when we do, the impact of UDMA/66
versus UDMA/33 will be a relatively minor factor in overall system
performance.
- AGP 2X versus 4X is another non-issue. Current systems and
video cards typically can't come close to saturating even AGP 2X. AGP
4X shows no discernable real-world advantage in any situation I know
of. And in fact, the only time that AGP has any advantage whatsoever
over even PCI is when the video card uses system memory as virtual
video memory. You'll notice that most high-end video cards (the only
kind that could even theoretically benefit from AGP) usually come with
32 MB, 64 MB, or more of physical memory installed on the card. That's
because local video memory is even faster than shared system memory
accessed via AGP. So the truth is that any flavor of AGP has no
real-world benefit whatsoever, and downgrading a motherboard because
it supports only AGP 2X instead of AGP 4X is ridiculous.
And, yes, my opinion of VIA chipsets holds true across the board.
Given the recent news articles about Intel's chipset problems, it's easy
to forget that historically Intel chipsets have been rock-solid, fast, and
bug-free compared to competing chipsets from VIA, which have always been a
step behind Intel, particularly in compatibility and stability. And VIA's
problems extend beyond Intel processors. For example, it was recently
disclosed that problems with the VIA KX133-based Athlon boards may have
been responsible for AMD's decision not to release their new
Thunderbird-core Athlons in Slot A, except for limited OEM distribution.
Why? Because the KX133 has timing problems with Slot A and the Thunderbird
core. Even the elderly AMD-750 chipset can support Thunderbirds in either
Slot A or Socket A, so how did VIA, which apparently based the KX133 on
the AMD-750, end up producing a chipset that can't run the Thunderbird in
Slot A?
All of that said, I don't think that VIA chipsets are junk, but
I'd always choose a board based on an Intel chipset if I had that choice.
In my opinion, you'd be better off going with a 440BX based model. It'll
be faster and more stable, and you won't miss those marketing-speak
features that appear to give VIA the advantage. Although it is elderly and
being ramped down, the 440BX is still the best chipset that Intel has ever
made, and that's very good indeed.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: john biel [mailto:johnny51@home.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 10:11 AM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Plextor pricing
You wrote: "..... including one
Canadian merchant who charges $369 (Canadian). If you exclude that one
Canadian merchant, the highest price quoted by the 39 US merchants is
$259. Give me a break. Apparently Plextor didn't buy enough ads on
CNET."
Or much more likely, the person who wrote
this up didn't have the slightest clue that $369CAD = $246USD. So
including that one Canadian merchant the highest price quoted is still
$259USD. I wonder if they would even respond, if you pointed out that
even their own pricing data doesn't support their opinions on price.
Thanks. I knew that a Canadian dollar was roughly 2/3 the value
of a US dollar, but I didn't know the exact exchange rate and was too lazy
to go look it up.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Huth [mailto:mhuth@internetcds.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 2:50 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: Follow up and bizarre drive problems.
Bob, after our exchange of letters earlier
this month about building a machine, I thought I'd update you on what I
ended up doing. I'd also like to beg your indulgence again. Can you
explain what might be going on with the hard drive problem I've
described below?
Just built a dual 650mhz board around the
P3DM3 motherboards. Running Supermicro recommended memory (two banks of
256) and a 27 gig Maxtor IDE drive with a Matrox G400 board.
I'd many problems with setup on this system.
I was getting "inaccessible boot device" errors on every other
boot (really!) from Windows 2000. Actually error is a stop 0x000007b,
(0x8144ca30,0xc00014f ....). In addition to this, I'm having system
crashes with reboots every once in a while. I've swapped memory chips,
video cards, disabled the scsi port, flashed the rom to the latest
version, etc.
As a side note, Supermicro technical support
was not the least bit helpful, indeed they were amazingly rude and
nasty. Their sole suggestion was to replace memory.
I ended up taking my home system to our IS
guru at work and begging him to help.
Turns out that the original drive is the
problem. I swapped in a 40 gig Maxtor and the problems went away.
Now for the really odd parts. The original
Maxtor 27 gig drive formats and checks out correctly under dos and when
using the Maxblast utility. Yet when placed in any system except windows
98 it fails. Doesn't matter which motherboard, which bios, NT 4.0,
windows 2000, linux, or beos. In any os except 98 the drive is always
set to 7 gigs. If I low level format it, repartition it, and reformat
it...it returns to be a 7 gig drive, except under windows 98.
I'm going to approach Maxtor next week and
ask them to replace the drive as it is only 5 months old. However, I'd
love to hear if you or anyone has an explaination.
That is truly weird. As I started reading your message, my first
thought was that you must be using an inadequate power supply. That can
result in exactly the kind of hard disk problems you mentioned--boot
failures, read errors, write errors, and so on. When I got to the part
about it being recognized only as a 7 GB drive under anything except
Win98, though, I was stymied. It obviously can't be a BIOS or interface
issue, since it manifests with different motherboards, so it seems it must
be something odd about the drive itself. If you haven't tried a low-level
format yet, I'd try that before returning the drive. I've encountered
weird stuff like you describe that was persistent until I low-level
formatted the drive. You'll have to download a low-level format utility
from Maxtor to do that, but it's worth a shot. If that doesn't do it, I
have a few vague thoughts (like perhaps the drive is responding
incorrectly to the ATA Identify command), but they're all grasping at
straws.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: fabfour@swbell.net [mailto:fabfour@swbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 9:54 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: Help!
Robert, Can you help me? I saw that you have
a 386 with a maxtor 120 mb hard drive. Could you please e-mail me the
cmos setting for that hard drive? I have one in a 386 for my neices, and
the battery died. When I replaced it, the setting were gone and none of
the settings are on the drive!
Thank you in advace if you can help me. Two
little girls will be grateful!
Don
Alas, I no longer have a monitor attached to that system, nor one
that will work with it. It has a monochrome graphics card in it, and I've
just been using it sans monitor to run my voicemail. It runs for literally
months on end. It's not connected to a UPS, so when we have a power
failure, it simply reboots and runs some more.
As far as your disk, the best bet is to visit the Maxtor
web site and look up the model number of the drive. That'll give you
the physical drive parameters. On a system and drive of that vintage,
entering the physical drive parameters should allow the system to boot. If
after you do that the system recognizes the physical drive as present but
will not boot from it, it's possible that the system was configured
originally to translate drive geometry. If that's the case, you have two
choices: (a) continue using the physical drive parameters that you just
entered, repartition and reformat the drive, and re-install all your
software (and the data which I hope you have backed up), or (b) use trial
and error to attempt to find the correct combination of drive parameters
for User Defined drive type that will allow the system to recognize the
data on the drive.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Furlong [mailto:sfurlong@acmenet.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 10:59 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: Intellect of lawyers
You wrote in your Wednesday, 17 May,
commentary, of the old saw about law students being those not smart
enough to get into med school.
I must take humorous exception to that. I
have an MS in Software Eng, work as a programmer, and start law school
in September. However, as a rule I think you're right. Some lawyers who
write about the law profession mention that many lawyers have a big
problem in tech cases because they weren't able to handle math and
science (which was why they went into law in the first place). In my own
experience, even bright lawyers are very impressed with what I do
because it's much harder than what they do (in their opinion, which is
what matters in this context).
Ta, SRF
--
Steve Furlong, Computer Condottiere Have GNU, will travel
518-374-4720 sfurlong@acmenet.net
Actually, in all seriousness, I know some very bright people who,
for reasons unclear to me, chose to become attorneys. And when I was in
college I did at one point seriously consider pursuing degrees in both law
and medicine, not because I wanted to practice either law or medicine, but
simply on the Jubal Harshaw theory of self-defense.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Swijsen [mailto:qjsw@oce.nl]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 8:18 AM
To: Robert Bruce Thompson
Subject: MS patch
>I don't trust advertising-supported
sources for PC information.
You can safely drop the 'PC' from that
sentence.
Batch viruses could be made. The biggest
problem would be automatic starting. But you can trust enough users to
do that for you. Most people don't check what they get but simply open
the attachments. Especially at work because they trust the corporate
safeties (virus scanners, firewalls, etc) to trap everything before it
arrives at their desk. The feeling is that "if it passes the sentry
at the front door it cannot be bad". This makes companies
vulnerable.
A lot of custom software uses the scripting
capabilities of MS Office for added functionality. For example we use MS
Word to produce order-confirmations for mailing or faxing. Because of
this many companies will not be able to install the MS patch and they
will not be able to simply turn off all scripting. That is until they
have tested and (where necessary) adapted their programs. (That is going
to cost serious money. And what goodwill still remained for MS will
evaporate fast.). Off course user will expect the 'computer department'
to have all safeties active and simply open everything they get (see
previous). This makes companies vulnerable for the time being.
That is double vulnerability.
What do we need the DOJ for? MS is on a nose
dive and it looks like they just hit the afterburner. -- Svenson.
Mail at work : qjsw@oce.nl,
or call : (Oce HQ)-4727
Mail at home : sjon@svenson.com
Well, I suppose people who insist on using dangerous tools have
to expect to lose a few body parts from time to time. As for me, I simply
uninstalled Windows Scripting Host from my Win9X boxes and deleted the two
scripting exe files from \Winnt\System32 on my NT boxes. I can easily live
without scripting. I have sympathy for those who can't, but I'm sure glad
that I'm not in their positions.
14:30: Well, I
downloaded and installed the USB update for the HP scanner, and it still
doesn't work properly. Each time I restart the system, the scanner is
recognized and works properly for one scan. After that, attempting to do
anything simply fails because the system no longer recognizes that the
scanner is present. Every time I reboot, Windows 98 gives me the "new
hardware found" message and re-installs the scanner drivers. I can't
find any device conflicts, and there doesn't appear to be any problem with
availability of IRQs. I did install a USB update from Intel on the
motherboard, and I wonder if that's conflicting with something. I've about
had it with trying to make this work under Win98 and USB. The scanner also
has a SCSI interface, so I think I'll just connect it to either my or
Barbara's NT box and have done with it. This used to work under Windows 98
on the Dell box. I don't know why it doesn't work on my new Windows 98
box, and I'm about past caring.
I did my Wall Street Journal interview this morning. Mr.
Eig says the article should run sometime next week. It'll be a page one
article, no less. This guy has really put some work into learning
everything anyone might want to know about dishwashers, so I suspect it'll
be an interesting article. Near the end of the interview, Mr. Eig asked if
Barbara would be willing to speak with him. I told him that he shouldn't
talk to her, because she'd just contradict me and tell malicious stories.
He said that journalistic integrity required that he get the other side of
the story, so I reluctantly told him that Barbara was out running errands
today, but would be here all day tomorrow. Barbara is excited about doing
the interview. If nothing else, having her new business mentioned on the
front page of the Wall Street Journal can't hurt.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Hough [mailto:phil4@compsoc.man.ac.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 12:04 PM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Regsitry vs ini
"Microsoft hasn't done us any favors
with their "improved" methods. If they won't go back to using
.ini files, they should at least provide a mechanism to locate and store
all pertinent registry entries for an app in a stand-alone file that
could subsequently be merged with the clean registry on the new system.
How hard would that be?"
Interestingly I noticed that it is now the
apps that are changing.
For example, The latest incarnations of
Adobe's Photoshop are stand-alone, on resinstallation of your OS, copy
the folder back where you want it, and run the app, and all works fine.
No need to reinstall.
Obviously the App authors have seen the
light... lets hope MS get the hint sometimes soon.
BTW: with regard to your HP experience..
afaik it is law in the uk, that when you specify you personal details
you can opt out of any advertising. I guess it's not the same in the US?
ATB.
Phil
Phil Hough - 4th Year Computer Scientist Out of memory.
E-mail: phil4@compsoc.man.ac.uk We wish to hold the whole sky,
Phone: 07720 291723 But we never will.
WWW: http://www2.cs.man.ac.uk/~houghp6
Good point. Many small programs and utilities operate that way,
but it's good to know that a heavy-duty application like Photoshop does as
well. Now if only all app makers would abandon the registry and put
everything they needed in one directory.
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Today I'm going to tear down thor (my Win98SE box) to bare metal
and re-install. This time, I think I'll configure it to multi-boot
Win98SE, Windows 2000 Professional, and perhaps NT 4 Workstation.
While I'm at it, I think I'll install the OnStream DI30 15/30GB tape drive
in this machine.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: pttdsz [address removed by request]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 3:26 PM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: The registry and software using it.
>If they won't go back to using .ini
files, they should at least provide a mechanism to locate and store all
pertinent registry entries for an app in a stand-alone file that could
subsequently be merged with the clean registry on the new system. How
hard would that be?
Well, I don't know if there is a mechanism
that provides all you desire, but AFAIK, there's nothing stopping any
software developer from putting whatever changes to the registry they
make in a file stored in the program directory, or anywhere else. It'd
be harder to keep track of changes made after the installation, but I
think there are applications which can take care of it. Never really
used any of them, so I can't attest to their quality, but I believe
Quarterdeck, Ontrack, and Norton all have something to offer. A program
could even restore the necessary registry entries itself, assuming the
developer was willing to do whatever work was required. Can't say that
that would be trivial, but it would hardly be incredibly difficult. No
more so than following any of the other practices of good software
development.
Spam-shielding my address would be much
appreciated.
Thanks. Yes, I'm familiar with the products you mention. I tried
Quarterdeck Cleansweep a couple years ago, but I never had much luck with
using it to move an application from one volume to another. Perhaps I
should try a more recent version.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Sturm [mailto:jpsturm@dingoblue.net.au]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 4:21 PM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Bizarre drive problem
Robert
I have experienced similar problems to Mark
Huth's in the past when the master boot record of a hdd became flaky. I
have a little (1kB) proggy called zeroboot that zaps the MBR instantly.
Happy to supply on request, noting that it is a dangerous utility. No
warnings; it just zaps the MBR of the primary hdd.
Thanks. As it turns out, it appears that Dr. Huth's problem was
in fact a defective hard disk. I'm curious about your program, though.
Does it do something more than running fdisk /mbr?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Gorsky [mailto:thetardis@geocities.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:25 AM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Win 98 and HP scanner
Hi, I started reading your page while Jerry
was on vacation, and really enjoy you page and his.
Anyway, about the scanner. Are you using
Windows 98 or Windows 98SE. It has been my experience that Win 98, even
with the service pack still has plug and play problems. All my PCs run
Win 98SE (except two - one is a NT 4 Server the other dual boots with
Win 2000) with no problems. A friend had a PC that they wiped clean and
reinstalled 98, but was having problems configuring the NIC. As soon as
I reinstalled the SE update (not service pack 1) the NIC configured and
worked perfectly. Just an idea.
Thanks for the kind words. You make a good point. I should have
mentioned that I'm using Windows 98SE. Interestingly, back when the
scanner was connected to my old Dell Dimension Pentium/200 box, it ran
fine, originally under Windows 98 and later under Windows 98SE. The
problem occurs on the new box, which uses an Intel CA810E motherboard. I'm
about convinced that the problem may have been caused by an Intel USB
patch that I applied. At any rate, today that new box gets stripped down.
I'm going to reconfigure it to multi-boot Win98SE, Windows 2000 Pro, and
perhaps NT 4 Workstation. We'll see what happens.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Huth [mailto:mhuth@internetcds.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:19 AM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: RE: Follow up and bizarre drive problems.
Robert,
Story gets odder and odder. Power supply is
a Sparkle 300w and should give enough power.
I'd already done a low level format using
Maxtor's low level formatting program. Didn't seem to make any
difference. Spoke with Maxtor and they told me that the drive
"couldn't" be the problem if it ran with their Maxblast
program (it tested fine with their program, just not in the real world).
Our IS guy commented "something screwy in the drive firmware"
and recommended returning the drive.
Took the drive back to the local retailer
from whom I bought it in Feb. He was happy to exchange it for another
drive. As he was checking it he noted that it was labeled HP in addition
to Maxtor. Odd for a retail drive. He wondered if this was a returned
drive resold as new. In any event, new 30 gig drives pops into the
machine and formats and runs without flaw. Guess the drive
"could" be the problem after all.
One last bit of interest. Drive from local
retailer was $30 bucks cheaper than from several "discount"
web retailers.
Again, thanks for your help.
Yep. Sparkle makes decent power supplies, and a 300W unit should
be large enough. I suspect that your IS guy is right about the firmware. I
don't know of anything else that could explain the symptoms you described.
Glad you got it working. And you raise an excellent point about prices.
Web sources are usually cheaper than local ones, but not always. When I
bought this HP ScanJet 6200C last fall, I did a web search for prices. I
ended up buying it locally, at Computer & Software Outlet. I paid
perhaps $25 more than the absolute cheapest price I found on the web, but
the local price was the same as the web price from places I would actually
consider giving my credit card number to.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Swijsen [mailto:qjsw@oce.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 4:35 AM
To: Robert Bruce Thompson
Subject: registry
>How hard would that be? Death (or is it
dead) simple.
We use that regularly when distributing our
own apps. Ex "cu_wordlink.reg" REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software \PSS\WordLink]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software \PSS\WordLink\2.0]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software \PSS\WordLink\2.0\ProShield]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software \PSS\WordLink\2.0\ProShield\sports.db]
"Connect"="-db db/sports -1"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software \PSS\WordLink\2.0\ProShield\stddb.db]
"Connect"="-db db/stddb -1"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software \PSS\WordLink\2.0\ProShield\wldb.db]
"Connect"="-db db/wldb -1"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software \PSS\WordLink\2.0\ProShield\Startup]
"Databases"="sports,stddb,wldb"
"Shell"="Taskbar"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software \PSS\WordLink\2.0\ProShield\Windows]
"mnu030"="1,1,640,24,3"
adds the required keys and values for an
update of the Wordlink product which we use to print order confirmations
via Word. Just lookup the .reg files on your system to see some more. So
if MS wants they could do it. But they will call their own reg files a
trade secret.
BTW what do you mean by a 'clean registry' ?
Is that something like a 'nice bug', or a 'helpfull government' ?
--
Svenson.
Mail at work : qjsw@oce.nl,
or call : (Oce HQ)-4727
Mail at home : sjon@svenson.com
Thanks. I've put an extra space before the second slash in "
\Software\" to allow the lines to break for those with lower
resolution monitors so the page won't scroll horizontally. I'm sure you're
right. I've migrated applications from one machine to another by manually
altering things--copying DLLs to the appropriate directories, doing a
save-and-restore on Registry keys, and so on. I've actually made it work,
although it's more difficult and time-consuming than simply re-installing
the program. But if I can do it manually, there's no reason why the app
vendor couldn't include a utility to do it automatically. I don't even
mind having to re-install the application. It's losing the custom settings
I object to. All they need do is add two options to the File
menu--"Save Configuration" and "Restore
Configuration."
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The more I use this Antec
KS-288 case, the more I like it. Since I was stripping the hard disk down
to bare metal anyway, I decided to go ahead and install the OnStream
DI30 15/30 GB tape drive. The machine sits on my desk, as shown below,
with not much working room around it.
With most cases, I would have had to slide the system out, disconnect
all the cables, move the system to a working area where I could get at it,
remove the screws, take off the covers, install the drive, and then
reverse the whole process. With the Antec KS-288, life was a lot simpler.
I reached behind the case, which has a single knurled screw at the top
rear to secure the cover. After removing that screw, I slid the top of the
case backwards an inch or so and lifted it off. I then lifted the left
side panel straight off, and had full access to the interior of the case.
I installed the tape drive, connected the cables, and replaced the covers.
All of that took only about three minutes. In fact, I was working so
quickly that I forgot to install screws to secure the tape drive to the
frame. I didn't realize that until I was half-way through installing
Windows 98 SE and noticed that the tape drive was sitting about an eighth
of an inch too deep in the case. Removing the covers, installing the drive
screws, and replacing the covers took literally two minutes.
This is an extremely nice case. Everything lines up perfectly, there
are no sharp edges, and it is very solidly built. All the more amazing,
since this is one of Antec's Value-Line cases, and sells on the street for
only $65 to $70, including a decent 250W power supply. If you're looking
for a high-quality case to build a new system around, look no further than
Antec. Highly recommended.
After getting all the hardware installed, I started on installing the
OSs. Windows 98 SE installed normally, but without bothering to ask about
how to configure TCP/IP. I went into Network Properties and changed
it from using a (non-existent) DHCP server to specifying IP configuration
settings manually. I then installed Windows NT 4 Workstation, which
installed normally.
Silly me. After installing Windows 98 SE and Windows NT 4 Workstation
without incident, I started on the install of Windows 2000 Professional.
After I sat through the 15 minutes or so it took to run the four boot
floppies, Setup informed me that I would be unable to start Windows NT 4
unless I installed at least SP4 before installing Windows 2000
Professional. Just a thought, but it'd be nice if Setup checked that
immediately rather than forcing you to waste 15 minutes before finding out
that you had to kill Windows 2000 Professional Setup, start NT4, apply the
Service Pack, and then restart Windows 2000 Professional Setup, waiting
another 15 minutes for the boot floppies to be processed.
So now I have a triple-boot system, with Windows 98 SE, Windows NT 4
Workstation, and Windows 2000 Professional, all apparently co-existing
happily. At this point, they're all just basic OS installs. Now I need to
install a bunch of software for all three OSs--current video and sound
drivers, Office 2000, CD burning software, tape backup software, all my
standard utilities, and so on.
Speaking of cases, here's the start of my new test-bed system,
which will probably be one of the few computers in the world that has a
plywood chassis. It ain't pretty, but it will make it easy to swap
components. So far, it's just a two foot square of plywood with a Sparkle
250W power supply permanently affixed. I'll salvage a removable drive cage
from an old case, and use that to permanently mount a boot hard drive,
floppy drive, and CD-ROM drive. Then I can easily swap motherboards and
expansion cards in and out. I also have the guts of a second plywood
test-bed, and I'll probably mount some 6" posts on the bases to make
the systems stackable.
Malcolm, our
crafty eight-month-old Border Collie pup, has struck again. As I was
answering mail this morning, I heard Barbara's anguished cry,
"Malcolm!!!!" I rushed out to the den to see what he'd done.
Here's what.
At first, we thought it was this morning's paper, but then Barbara
noticed it was one from the middle of April. She couldn't figure out where
he'd found such an old newspaper. Finally, it hit her, and she asked if I
was missing a dog-beater. Sure enough, I noticed that the dog-beater I
keep in my office was missing. Malcolm had apparently sneaked into my
office while I was answering mail, stolen the dog-beater, and shredded it.
(For those of you with delicate sensibilities, I don't actually beat him
with it. Usually, just brandishing it is enough. If not, I escalate to a
light tap on the snout.)
Barbara is off to run errands and go to the grocery store. When
she returns, I'll need to help with the groceries and then climb up on the
roof to blow out the gutters. So I'd better get to work.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:dkreck@lightspeed.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 10:59 AM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: HP troubles
Well HP has good products but support just
gets worse!
Your troubles just amplify what I went
through last week. Bought a new HP Pavillion for one of my clients. I've
honestly had very good luck with all HP models and have found the low
end Pavillions more than adequate for most basic office users. Picked up
the user's old system on Friday, created direct cable connections
between the old and new systems and transferred all the needed files,
about 2 hours work.
Monday morning. Set system up at desk
(under), installed the HP printer software and went to do the last few
items. Connect to Compuserve. Nothing. Startup a terminal emulator and
try talking to the modem directly, modem responds. Try dialing out
manually, no dial tone heard. Try just picking up the line with ATH1,
hey dial tone. Okay 22 years in the computer game I think I got modem
command down pretty well by now. Goto device manager remove the modem,
shut down, pull modem, restart, shutdown, install modem, restart, plug
and play does it thing and nothing changes. Bad hardware.
Now the fun. Call HP support and go through
the damn automated menus, and this call is not toll free, it's costing
the client. Got through in about 3 minutes, okay not too bad. Your
serial number please. Remember I said it was under the desk. Crawl down,
it's dark and could they have printed it any smaller! Hell at 49 my eyes
just ain't that great. Have to unhook some cables to get the box into
the light and read the number to Mr. Tech Guy. Okay tell him the story.
Now here we go by the book, do step 1 now step 2. Oh please are you
listening, I've done this! No, we do them all again and then some. Okay
you need to get the recovery CD and restore the system. What!
Fortunately, or not you can do an OS only restore which I proceeded to
do at Tech's request. Thirty minutes later I'm done and all is just the
same, except I now have to repeat some of my earlier steps like the
printer install.
Call back HP Tech, a few more minutes with a
different support guy and finally a admission the hardware had a
problem. Great are you going to send me a new card? Let's see. Hmm, no,
that unit is only available for bench repair. We'll ship you a box, you
repack the entire unit and send it back and in about 5 days well return
it. F@#?!!! This is just not believable. I tell them to just give me a
case number and I'll think about it.
Ran out to Computer Superstore and buy a
Viking 56K PCI modem for $30.00. Go back slap it in the box, restart go
through the plug & play, switch dialup networking to use the new
modem and all is right with the world. Three hours wasted, frustration,
telephone charges and my temper blown (which after 22 years of this is
damn hard to do - thank you). As I said, HP has good product by tech
support has gotten rotten. I think I knew most of this before I even
made the first call, I must be a masochist.
MORAL OF THE STORY.
Cheap or even moderate hardware beats
wasting valuable time on stupid tech support and warranty policies.
Thanks for the rant.
Dave Krecklow
david@compudave.com
Yep. More's the pity, because HP used to have good tech support.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Anshuman Bhargava [mailto:shrishti@bol.net.in]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 3:03 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Hello Mr.Thompson,
How are you ? Namaste.
If you recall I had asked you about buying a
CDR. Your reply had been prompt and very helpful. I would be very
grateful if you could help me with another query. I had gone to buy the
HP CDR 9310i as HP drives are the only ones available here in New Delhi.
However it said on the box that the cd writer required a minimimum
system configuration of Pentium 200 MHz., Windows 95 B and at least 32
MB ram. . My system config is Pentium 100 MHz, Windows 95 B. and 64 MB
ram. My CD ROM is not working at present Will the HP CDR Plus 9310i or
any other HP cd writer requiring pentium 200 MHz work on my pentium 100
MHz computer ? Will there be any problems ?
Please help me with the above. If you could
suggest which cd writer to go for if the above doesn't work out ?
Thanking You, and sorry for troubling you a
bit further,
Gratefully yours,
Anshuman Bhargava.
I don't know the answer to your question. Perhaps one of my
readers will be able to offer some advice. I did some quick checking on
other CD-R manufacturers' webs sites, including Plextor, Iomega, and Smart
& Friendly, and couldn't find any references to minimum hardware
requirements at all. In general, obviously, it's a good idea to pay
attention to whatever minimum hardware requirements the manufacturer
specifies. However, my guess is that the minimum hardware requirements
that HP specifies for this drive have more to do with the bundled software
than with the drive itself. It's quite possible that the drive would run
successfully in your system, but the only way to know for sure is to try
it. Even if your system is in fact not fast enough to run the bundled
software, it's quite possible that you could use some other software to
burn CDs. Another alternative may be to add an inexpensive upgrade
processor like the AMD K6-2, assuming that your motherboard can accept it.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: J.H. Ricketson [mailto:culam@micron.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:58 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: Multi-Boot Boxes
Dear Bob,
FWIW, I have had some experience with
multi-boot boxes.<BG> I offer the following as a checklist that
has worked for me.
1. Each OS in its own partition (except
W3.1/WfWG, which will happily share with another OS.)
2. "SuperClean" (TM reg. JHR)
install: Install the first OS, back up that partition, wipe the OS, and
then install the next OS. Repeat until all OSs installed.
3. Install W98 first, as it wipes out
boot.ini when installed after NT or W2K.
4. Install W98 on C:. It is possible to
install on another partition, but gives peculiar and unanticipated
(bad!) results.
5. Finally, consider a minimal installation
of W3.1 or WfWG, either on the HD or removable media. This is
invaluable, as it can be booted from a DOS boot disk and used to begin
the copy-back bootstrap operation of restoration after things have gone
bad. (They do, on occasion. You may have noticed.)
My very best wishes for your complete
success.
Regards,
JHR
--
[J.H. Ricketson in San Pablo]
culam@micron.net
Thanks. I think I agree with all of that, with a couple of
exceptions. First, I've never felt the need to install 16-bit Windows on a
multi-boot system. I can get to whatever I need to with a Win98 emergency
boot disk. This system happens to have all three volumes formatted FAT,
which is a departure for me. Ordinarily, I use only NTFS with NT/W2K. For
that reason, I often install multi-boot even on dedicated servers. That
is, for example, if I'm building a serious NT Server box, I usually create
a second partition and do a minimum install of NT on it. That way, if
something serious happens to the main NT partition, I can always boot to
the copy of NT that resides on the "emergency" partition and use
it to access files on the main NTFS volume(s). Also, with regard to
installing Win98 after NT4, what you say used to be true. One had to
install Win9X first, and then install NT4. Purely by accident, I found out
a few months ago that Win98 (SE, I believe) was smart enough to recognize
that NT was already installed and create an appropriate boot.ini file. I
can't remember all the details, but I believe I had a functioning
dual-boot system with Win9X on C: and NT4 on D:. For some reason, I blew
away C:, expecting that I'd have to re-install both Win9X and NT4. When I
installed Win98, it recognized that NT was already installed and made a
boot.ini. Or at least that's how I remember it.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Mugford [mailto:mugford@aztec-net.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:10 AM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Even simple movements not so simple
Robert,
I have nothing but sympathy for your
unhappiness with HP AND the various stories about the Microsoft-begotten
hassles of moving applications.
This past weekend, we spent four days
setting up a new shipping computer to replace one that is failing of old
age and hardening of the disk drive. The key app was a bar-coding
application that prints to a Zebra printer. Unfortunately, years ago,
the original computer was divied up into four logical volumes to control
cluster size and space-wastage. The original bar-coding app was
installed on drive E:.
In the interim, hard drives plunged in price
AND the company adopted a policy of a single drive C: running FAT32 (the
idiot behind the policy was me, of course). So we installed all the
stuff on the new machine we had to, copied over the data files (luckily
C:\DATA\BARCODES on both setups) and then the various folders from the
desktop of the original. Each folder contained a link to the running
program and then a link to the program with a particular data file and
parameters. A desktop folder for each of the three label sizes.
Brought up each folder and updated the
properties of each shortcut, changing the starting directory to the NEW
program directory and updating the directory info in the command line.
The kicker was that despite doing that, I STILL had to change the icon,
get the message that the old program directory did not exist (duhhhh!)
and browse to where the new directory was, to filch the icon out of the
program.
EACH of the data files had to be brought
into the editor, where it complained about a missing printer. On the
original machine, we ended up using the Zebra 140 (Copy 2) printer. We
had had a fair bit of difficulty getting things up and going. On the new
machine, I guessed right and made it just Zebra 140. The program didn't
cope and I had to go in and change the printer from the newly assigned
DEFAULT (which was wrong) to a specific printer, the Zebra 140. Doing so
seemed the only change needed to make things work.
Well, MOST everything worked. But some of
the files were fouling up, printing five labels where eight were
expected. I was *THIS* close to unplugging and going back to the old
wreck when an epiphany occured. The printer was connected by serial
port! A quick check revealed a discrepancy in port modes; 9600,7,E,2
rather than 9600,8,N,1 that is the default for Win95B installs. Changing
that fixed all.
I was astonished at the awkwardness of it
all. Maybe I shouldn't have. But the thing that irked me the most was
that I COULD NOT just copy over the program and have things work. Or was
it having to change the icons? Either way, I'm having an assistant do
the next upgrade [G].
Gary Mugford
Gary Mugford
Idea Mechanic
Bramalea ON Canada
A lot of us have gone through similar problems, and it just goes
to emphasize how badly Microsoft has implemented the whole idea of the
registry, software installation, shared DLLs, and so on. When I first
encountered this type of software install, my first thought was that it
was a Communist Plot intended to prevent people from pirating software,
and I haven't seen any reason to change my mind.
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Now here's a criminal who's not going to get any sympathy when he's
caught. The newspaper this morning reports that an armed robber held up a
Charlotte store. One of the women working there had her four year old
daughter with her. The little girl started crying during the robbery. The
goblin told the mother that he'd kill the little girl if she didn't stop
crying. The mother couldn't get the little girl to stop crying, so the
goblin shot the little girl in the chest. Amazingly, the hospital reports
that the little girl is in fair condition. What kind of miserable excuse
for a primate intentionally shoots a four year old girl? I sincerely hope
that when the cops catch up with this SOB he resists arrest.
I'd better get this posted. There's a very loud thunderstorm moving in,
and our lights just started flickering. And Barbara's father picked her up
half and hour ago to go play golf. Not good.
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The following message was in response to my suggestion to Chuck that he
start a web site and start keeping a daily journal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Waggoner [waggoner at gis dot net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 10:21 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: RE: Upgrades & CABS
Thanks for the invitation, but where to get
the time?! I barely get to read the rest of you, and sometimes I just
can't get through all of Pournelle's ramblings--though it's not for lack
of interest, or good material on his part.
Recently I've become involved in the startup
of a new video production company (principally corporate--or
"industrials" as we used to call them), and the days are not
long enough. There's enough material from that project to fill a daily
web page, but no time to put it in writing.
One item is a new technology TV projector
from NEC. It's about the size of a less expensive home VCR--though
perhaps twice higher--and this baby throws a 6 foot tall picture on a
wall (not a screen) across a 30 foot room that is significantly sharper
than any 31" TV on the market. What's more, the test room was not
dark--it had incredible ambient light, including daylight from a wall of
windows--but the picture was bright and beautiful from any angle!
I admit we were feeding it with a higher
quality signal than ends up going into your home TV picture tube, but it
really looks no worse than home TV when we feed it from a regular VHS
VCR, and eventually, high-definition will easily exceed what we are
calling our high-quality feed (Sony Beta SP and Panasonic DVC Pro).
My wife has been waiting for years to have a
"picture wall" instead of a TV--but I can't tell her about
this just yet. The price is $8,500 (however, that's down from $15,000
last October); the new business isn't doing THAT well yet.
Since we are in the same generation, you and
Barbara might also enjoy a movie we saw last week called "High
Fidelity". It's a great piece of ensemble acting based on a book by
one Brit (Nick Hornby) and directed by yet another (Stephen
Frears)--although the casting has a lot of Chicagoans.
The setting is a fictitious record store in
Chicago that sells nothing but old vinyl "collectors" records.
It's about the post-college time of life. The characters drawn by the
actors who work in the store are so real, it's freaky. The more I
reflect on the movie, the more I like it. It's definitely a guy's movie,
but there were plenty of women in the packed house where we saw it,
enjoying too. My wife liked it, but she has never been REALLY into rock
music, and it's that--taken to extreme--which is central to making the
movie funny. One of the best pictures I've seen in years. Satisfying
end, too; makes you feel good about spending the time on it.
John Cusack stars; his sister Joan plays his
girlfriend's best friend Liz; and their father, Dick, has a short bit as
a minister at a funeral. The Cusacks lived down the street from us in
Evanston when I worked in Chicago.
Thanks. I'll tell Barbara. That sounds like a movie she might
like. As far as the NEC projector, I wonder how long it'll be before
they're selling them at Circuit City for $500.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Hough [mailto:phil4@compsoc.man.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 12:03 PM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: CDR Minimum Spec
I've seen a CD Writer working fine on a P90
16Mb RAM, running Linux.
I agree with your suggestion that the
minimum spec is more likely to be the software bundle than the drive.
The only problem I can see is that the app+OS take so much memory, that
swapping to disk is required, while writing. This may of course cause
the writing process to fail.
Thanks. I figured that was the case, because the CD writer
hardware really shouldn't put much of a load on a system. As I recall, the
gentleman had 64 MB of RAM, which should be enough to keep swapping to a
minimum, particularly if he just starts the CD burning and doesn't try to
do anything else until the process completes.
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-----Original Message-----
From: J.H. Ricketson [mailto:culam@micron.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 5:49 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: Multi-Boot - More
Bob -
Something I glossed over in describing my
multi-boot system is twin HDs, the second containing an exact (or close
enough) copy of the first (boot)HD. This expands capabilities and
options immensely. And, as has been said - HD storage is ridiculously
cheap and getting cheaper.
There is not necessarily a need to actually
install a 16-bit Windows - but it is handy to have it to run, in the
event of a worst-case scenario where DRIVE0 is totaled and I have to
rebuild a new DRIVE0, either from scratch or by copying back DRIVE1 to
DRIVE0. I can activate the 16-bit Windows and use it, albeit slowly, to
copy back C:\Root with all its goodies, including boot.ini, and NT4 or
W2K, reboot into NT4 or W2K and use that to quickly copy back the
remainder of DRIVE0 from DRIVE1, and I'm back in busines as usual.
As a minimum, I would strongly recommend a
boot floppy that can activate the tape system or whatever is used for
backup, so that it can be used for the restoration.
I, personally, don't rely on ER disks. I
have wasted too much time with them, ERing and finally, after multiple
reboots, had to reinstall anyway. Your mileage obviously differs.
Perhaps if I had enough breakdowns to seriously study the care &
feeding of ER disks, my mileage might improve. The backup &
copy-back system I use "Works for Me." It still gives me a
warm feeling of security to know I have a boot floppy with all the
goodies - XCOPY, FDISK, FORMAT, etc., and a config.sys &
autoexec.bat that will activate my MO drive and CD drive. From that
start - I'm well on my way, with something besides a blank screen to
stare at.
As to FAT16 vs. NTFS, etc.: If a box has
only NT4.0 & W2k - NTFS would be the only way to fly. However, when
another non-NTFS- speaking OS is added to the mix, I find it necessary
to compromise on FAT16 as a Lingua Franca that all understand. That also
allows me to use one instance of Office 97, accessible by all, with a
common file directory. Also a common bookmark file & browser (which
shall remain nameless out of respect for readers'
sensitivities)<BG> FAT 16 does require a tradeoff of speed and
agility, and I am limited to 8.45 Gb HDs, regardless of the actual
capacity of the HD.
I wish my W98 were as smart as yours, or I
had your luck! Mine is an "upgrade" (non-SE) version that
requires even more care to install/reinstall on my multi-boot box than a
full version would. It is certainly not bright enough to recognize that
other Windows versions exist, and may indeed be on the very HD on which
it is being installed. I suppose that possibility never occurred to the
geniuses at Redmond, either.
On creating a second NT partition on the
same physical disk, it is an excellent idea if there is room, and very
handy to have. Only drawback would be if DRIVE0 totaled. Then NT would
be aiNT, and a new beginning unless you could restore from backup. I
like my twin HDs. Even if they both go south simultaneously (in which
case I have serious problems 'way beyond HDs), I can still restore from
the copies on MO Discs.
My philosophy and strategy "Works for
Me," and will work for anyone who follows it. That is not to say it
is the only way. There are many paths to enlightenment.<G> Bits
& pieces may be abstracted and used successfully, depending on the
multi-booter's desires and the target system. It's a wide-open field. My
aim is primarily rock-steady reliability, 24/7/366 - which involves some
tradeoffs. Others may have differing priorities, and prefer different
trade-offs.
Regards,
JHR
--
[J.H. Ricketson in San Pablo]
culam@micron.net
It occurs to me that you might find Drive
Image useful. I haven't looked at it since V2.0, but V3.0 is out, and
I should probably take a look at it. Drive Image makes a snapshot of a
drive volume, storing it in compressed form on your choice of
media--another hard drive, a network volume, a removable drive, and so on.
It also creates a set of restore floppies. If you trash up your hard disk,
you can simply restore it from the most recent image file. If the hard
disk dies, you can replace the drive, boot with the restore floppies, and
restore the most recent image file to the new hard disk. It also allows
selective restore of specified files within the image. I don't know that
I'd use it as my primary backup method, but it's great for disaster
recovery.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Montgomery [mailto:monty@sprintmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:48 AM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com; Jerry Pournelle
Subject: Re: Which "Tyan Trinity" Board?
From: monty@sprintmail.com
Subj: Hardware book -- suggestion
Thanks to both Mr. Thompson and Dr.
Pournelle for recently answering questions about the Tyan Trinity 371
motherboard based on the Intel 440BX chipset!
One thing I almost stumbled over, in putting
together a shopping list: although it is true that the board has both
Socket 370 and Slot 1, and it is also true that Pentium III comes in
both Slot 1 and Socket 370 forms, careful examination of the CPU support
table on the Tyan
web site indicates that the board only supports the Slot 1 form of
the Pentium III. The Socket 370 support is only for Celerons.
Perhaps the forthcoming hardware book should
address subtleties of this kind? Not so much by mentioning this
particular situation, but by mentioning that this _generic_kind_ of
situation exists?
Thanks. Although I don't follow Tyan boards closely, I believe
that the later variants of that board in fact support FC-PGA Pentium III
and FC-PGA Celeron II processors in the Socket 370. There's no reason for
them not to. The FC-PGA version of Socket 370 has slightly different
pinouts, but is backward-compatible with PPGA processors (i.e. Celeron I).
So it would make sense for Tyan to use the later version of Socket 370,
and simply use a BIOS and VRM that supported all Socket 370 processors.
As far as the SC242 connector supporting only Pentium III in that
board, I have to assume that that's simply laziness (or perhaps a lack of
market demand to support the earlier Slot 1 processors). Electrically, the
Slot 1 versions of the Pentium II, Celeron, and Pentium III differ
slightly, although they all use the GTL+ signaling standard. It's possible
that Tyan has designed this board with VRMs that can supply only the
1.60/1.65V used by Coppermine Pentium III processors, which would rule out
using the 2.8V Klamath-core Pentium II and Celeron processors as well as
the 2.0/2.05V Deschutes-based Pentium II/Celeron and Katmai-core Pentium
III processors. But I think it's more likely that they simply didn't
bother to use a BIOS that supports the different L2 caching methods used
by the Pentium II, Celeron, and Pentium III.
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That very loud thunderstorm I mentioned yesterday morning ended up
being a pretty bad one. Straight-line winds of 80 MPH (129 KPH) or more,
huge trees down, houses crushed or with their roofs ripped off, and at the
airport several planes (which had been tied down) turned over and crunched
together. Several tornadoes reported, but none yet confirmed. There are
about 140,000 homes without power, but only about 2,000 of those are in
Winston-Salem, nearly all on the eastern edge. Apparently, the storm just
started to come together over Winston-Salem, but really started doing
damage at Kernersville, which is 15 miles (24 KM) east of here, and
Greensboro, which is about 30 miles east of here. Barbara and her father
were on the third hole of the golf course when it struck. They immediately
made tracks for the clubhouse. There were surprisingly few injuries. The
only I've heard about were two people who were unfortunately just
attempting to land in a light plane when the wind gusts forced them hard
onto the runway. The plane was destroyed, and they're in the hospital. All
that happened here was that the lights flickered occasionally.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Montgomery [mailto:monty@sprintmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:31 AM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Cc: 'Jerry Pournelle'
Subject: Re: Which "Tyan Trinity" Board?
Oops!
I did not mean to say that the Slot 1 on the
Tyan Trinity 371 based on the Intel 440BX chipset _only_ supported
Pentium III. The Tyan web site indicates that the board supports the
Slot-1 forms of Pentium II and Celeron too.
All I was trying to say is that the board
does not support the Socket-370 form of Pentium III.
And yes, the Tyan web site does indicate
that the later, VIA-chipset-based Trinity -- the Trinity 400 -- supports
the the Socket-370 form of Pentium-III-Coppermine.
Sorry. I misinterpreted your statement, "... the board only
supports the Slot 1 form of the Pentium III." Obviously, what you
meant was that the board supports Pentium IIIs only in Slot 1 packaging,
whereas what I read your statement to mean was that it supports only
Pentium IIIs in Slot 1 packaging.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: J.H. Ricketson [mailto:culam@micron.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:42 AM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: RE: Multi-Boot - More
Drive Image sounds really interesting.
First, I'm a bit hazy on the definition of the term "Volume."
Does that = DRIVE0, DRIVE1,etc, or does that = C:, D:, E:, etc.? If the
latter, I'm very interested. I can fantasize writing a batch file,
script, whatever, and punching that script up when I head for bed. No
babysitting required. The answer to a maiden's prayer! I'll look into
it. My only reservation is that it might be too complex to allow fast
& easy recovery - or it might involve the classic
"Catch-22" of needing a functional PC in order to restore
functionality - And if I had a functioning PC, I wouldn't be restoring
functionality! Workable - perhaps - for a network, but not for a lone
PC. Even over a network, I am puzzled as to how one might restore
function to a non-functional PC that couldn't connect to the net. It
would still be a lone PC, until functionality and networking capability
was restored. Bottom line: You still have to get down & dirty, and
begin by bootstrapping your way back up. Crash restoration is one area
where I am, regretfully, quite experienced. I would happily forego that
experience in the future.
Oh - I forgot to mention W2k's nosiness at
install. Sorry. I have encountered that before, and it trashed my NT4
install. A good workaround might be to install NT4 after the W2K install
next time around. My SOP on this is, of course, SuperClean - there are
no other OSs there for W2K to snoop. Once W2K is safely bedded down in
its own stall, AFAIK W2K completely ignores other OSs - if it is even
aware of them. That's one of the many reasons I'm willing to endure the
tedium of SuperClean - it saves me time and complications in the long
run. And NT4 will run 'til hell freezes over with SP0, or until you get
around to installing SP5.
And I heartily agree with your take on HP,
Microsoft, and then some. I don't want to get started on that rant -
could take days. And I've got a TR to finish! <BG>
As I said, it's been a while since I looked at Drive Image, but
my recollection is that it does in fact support volumes in the sense of
drive letters. It does require a functional PC to restore functionality,
in the sense that everything has to light up and spin, but not in the
sense I think you mean. That is, it doesn't have to be a bootable PC. You
just stick in the boot floppy, start the system, and restore from the
image file. Then you restart the system and it boots back to the state it
was in when you made the image. I don't recall the details of restoring
e.g. from an image stored on a network volume, but as I recall it builds a
boot floppy with network drivers in that circumstance.
PowerQuest
does have a 60-day money back guarantee, so you can try it without risk.
They also have a 30-day eval copy of Drive Image Pro available for
download. Drive Image comes in at least three versions. The standard
version is for one PC. The Pro version is licensable for multiple PCs,
e.g. workstations on a network. The Technician version is for people who
clone workstations, and is also licensed on a per-PC basis.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Hough [mailto:phil4@compsoc.man.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:04 AM
To: Robert Bruce Thompson
Subject: RE: CDR Minimum Spec
Thinking about it a little further, I think
the only thing he has to watch is Thermal Recalibration on older
harddisks.
The advice I give to punters on CW-J's
message board about writing CD's, is unless they've got SCSI, don't
touch the machine while its running (including screensavers,
powerdowns).
ATB.
Phil
Phil Hough - 4th Year Computer Scientist Out
of memory.
E-mail: phil4@compsoc.man.ac.uk
We wish to hold the whole sky,
Phone: 07720 291723 But we never will.
WWW: http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~phil4
Excellent advice for CD burning in general, and burning with an
IDE drive in particular. On faster machines and with drives with large
buffers, however, one has a bit more room for error. I don't know how
large the buffer is in that HP drive, but this Plextor PlexWriter 8/4/32A
has a 4 MB buffer. Even when burning at 8X (1,200 KB/s), that's more than
3 seconds of data buffered, which goes a long way toward reducing
coasters.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Butler [mailto:cbutler@cbjd.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:33 PM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: CABs
Putting the CABS in \windows\options\cabs is
not a good idea. If you need to re-install Windows with a clean
install, the easiest method is to deltree c:\windows . However, if your
CABS are under the \windows directory, you lose them as well. I
create a directory c:\win98se and copy the CD there (I also create a
msbatch.inf file with the CD Key in it in the same directory):
____________________________________________________
; MSBATCH.INF
;
[BatchSetup]
Version=3.0 (32-bit)
SaveDate=05/06/98
[Version]
Signature = "$CHICAGO$"
[Setup]
ProductKey="xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx"
______________________________________________
What a truly excellent idea. I've never put distribution files in
the cabs directory. I have a distribution server where I store CD images
for operating systems, applications, utilities, and so on. But I'd always
put the init key in a simple text file named !initkey.txt in the root of
the software directory.
* * * * *
This is a long message that covers multiple topics, so I'll embed my
comments in the body of the message.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Micko [mailto:rmicko@clipperinc.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 7:56 PM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Many Things... mostly DHCP
Mr. Thompson:
I am continuing to enjoy your website. Along
with Jerry Pournelle's site, I seem to check yours out every day or so.
Thank you for your help with the NT Small
Business Server DHCP Server problem I was experiencing. Through some
further research I was able to figure out a solution, which I'm passing
along. While everyone's suggestions were helpful, they all were
"end-run" solutions. involving using lpr or some other
external way to do DHCP. The optimal solution for the customer was to
not add anything else, but make the SBS and the Lucent Router co-exist
happily. As a recap of the problem for readers who do not want to search
for my original message... SBS has an annoying "feature by
design" (microsoft's words, not mine) where SBS can be the only
DHCP server on the network. The customer site was in a situation to tap
into a T1 line for internet access. However, the T1 connection is served
by a Lucent router that uses DHCP to dole out IP addresses. I was not at
liberty to change anything on the Lucent router, and I really didn't
want to assign static IP addresses to the PCs in the customers network.
At first I tried blocking the DHCP UDP ports in advanced security of the
TCP/IP properties for the external NIC card, however, that caused not
only DHCP to be blocked from the internal network, but all traffic
entirely. I still think that original method should have worked...
probably another "feature" of SBS.
The solution I found that did work was to
turn off the DHCP Server bindings to the external NIC in network
properties. Viola, SBS' DHCP Server functions fine as the
"only" DHCP server on the network, and the customer has a
speedy T1 connection to the internet. To Microsoft's credit I did happen
upon the answer in their knowledge base, but the article was for a modem
issue. Microsoft's knowledge base is very useful, but there is a
learning curve to figuring out which keywords will give useful results,
and even then there is a lot of reading to sort through. I have become
fairly adept at searching the kb, but it still takes a while to get at
useful info. support.microsoft.com (related KB articles: Q216238,
Q164882, Q196971, Q237773, Q218636, Q219364)
-----
Regarding the upcoming dishwasher article in
the WSJ. You mentioned that you thought it odd that the WSJ would
publish an article on dishwashers. I usually read the WallStreet daily;
the Friday May 19 issue had an article about dishwashers in Japan. At
first I thought this was the article you were referring to.
I don't read the WSJ regularly, so I didn't notice that one. This
article is supposed to appear sometime next week. As it turned out, the
author never contacted Barbara to interview her, so she may not be
appearing. Neither may I, for that matter. One never knows about
interviews until one sees the actual piece.
-----
A few thoughts on general discussion of
motherboards, cpus, chipsets, etc here on ttgnet and elsewhere. I have
been playing with computers for 20 years since I was a wee lad. My first
love has always been hardware. When I started my consulting business,
the majority of my work was building clones for people who wanted the
added services of an "expert" to help them with their
computing. Since the beginning I have always believed and operated on
the maxim that I could build a system that was measurably better in some
way than a pre-built system. Either it was less expensive, or more
reliable, or perhaps was a customized hotrod. At the very least I was
able to say that I hand picked every component because I felt it was the
best choice for the requirements of the system at hand. Many times I was
in a situation where economies of scale worked to my advantage. For
example, the price between two graphic cards may be a difference of
$5.00, but the quality of the one was much greater than the price
difference. For a dell, gateway, or any large outfit, that $5.00
multiplied to a large amount. For myself and my customers it was chump
change, so I delivered a much better product. I always chose the better
component. Within the last year or two, I've come to believe that this
is no longer true. For my own consulting practice I have standardized on
Dell computers. The specific vendor isn't that important. I could have
chosen Gateway, Compaq, Micron, etc with similar results.
The important difference is that in the last
2 years there has been a measurable decline in price and quality. First
price: I can no longer build a system effectively as a business
proposition. Currently the component cost alone is comparable to
purchasing a complete system. If software applications are required, I
usually cannot compete with the "bundle" cost from the larger
integrators. Even with all of this, I used to be able to choose to build
my own because there was a small benefit in building a system more
easily upgraded and maintained since it was based on standard parts,
nothing proprietary. Plunging costs have made upgrading less and less an
issue. However, what made it a complete non-issue was the rapid change
in technology. Today, if I purchase a reasonably equipped system, by the
time I want to upgrade, I won't want to... the new cpu won't be
compatible with my motherboard... the compatible motherboard will use a
new standard of ram... my graphic card won't be able to use the latest
PCI-2 or NG I/O bus... the harddisk won't be able to use the UltraDMA
1GHZ and besides, it is only 25GB... (Sorry...) In the end, I am better
off purchasing a new system and using the old system for something else.
Secondly, Quality: What I am calling the new
"aggravation" factor. I think some of this is due to the bloat
and decline in OS by Microsoft. In Microsoft's defense, Win9x & NT
are much more complicated than DOS ever was. In the few weeks I've read
your stuff, you are intimate with "af" (aggravation factor).
Building a system used to be a 4 hour job max. Now it's a multiple day
adventure. Breadboard the system. Install the OS. Research the driver
bugs. Re-Install the OS. Research the bugs due to the peculiar
combination of two manufacturers components. Re-Install the OS. Find out
about the MotherBoard BIOS problem. Flash the BIOS, re-install the OS.
Finish the system. Add the OfficeJet the customer already had. Find out
that HP wants $25.00 for the NT drivers since you originally bought the
scanner when the NT drivers weren't available. (true story)... (again,
sorry for rambling) etc. Deliver the system. Support the system more
than you seem to remember supporting systems in recent years. Realize
that AMD K6 & VIA combo's can be flaky. Find out that Intel's stuff
can be flaky. AARGH.
In general I now advise customers that if
they would like to have an enjoyable hobby and like to tinker...
building PCs can be just that. Yesterday kids became hams, now they
build PCs. But otherwise, just call up Dell, Gateway, HP, etc, and
decide how long you want to go before you have to call them again. The
longer time you want in between then pay more now.
I look forward to your comments, if you
would care to. Somehow I think this bears on your upcoming hardware book
with Jerry Pournelle. I'm going to get it, but I think the general PC
enthusiast audience is shrinking or non-existent.
( I am also sending this comment to
Pournelle's site in regards to his advice to a reader to build 2 systems
for the readers' sons to take to college.)
Well, we'll have to disagree about this. In my experience, one
can build a PC equivalent to a $1,000 to $1,500 Dell, Gateway, or other
name-brand unit for $200 to $400 less. Alternatively, one can build to the
same price point and end up with much better grade components. All of
these manufacturers try to pinch pennies to remain competitive on price.
When you buy one of their systems, you end up with low-end to mid-range
components. Anywhere there's an option to spend 5% or 10% more to get 50%
better performance, you can be sure that they chose not to spend the extra
money. Power supplies are marginal. If two models of a disk drive are
available, one with twice or four times the cache but that costs $3 more,
you can be sure that they chose the one that was $3 cheaper. You'll also
find they use white-box components that are inferior to the retail
products. For example, they may trumpet that their system contains the hot
video card of the month, but you'll likely find that rather than the 360
MHz RAMDAC in the retail product, you get a 300 MHz (or even 270 MHz)
RAMDAC and much slower memory. That way, they can claim that they're
providing the hot video card without actually paying the price. Same thing
on stuff like monitors. They may bundle a 17" monitor with what looks
like good specs and uses a Trinitron. You'll find, however, that that
monitor is nowhere near as good as a 17" Hitachi, Mitsubishi, NEC, or
Sony unit. The display quality isn't as good, and the OEM monitor will
likely last half as long. And so on.
Don't get me wrong. I don't think these folks are selling junk,
and I frequently recommend Dell to people who just want a computer without
the hassle of building one themselves. But you can do much better building
one yourself.
-----
You are not alone. HP has become a source of
evil in general. Things work in cycles. For many things, I like to
standardize. Many years ago, I only chose Epson for printers. Then their
quality went out the window. I standardized on HP for printers and much
else. I would say there 3 year window of high quality is starting to
crack for me. In the last two months I have had 3 or 4 instances of
having to deal with them and wishing I could ring the neck of the
unthinking inconsiderate louts on the other end. Particularly annoying
is their jumping on the model bandwagon. If we don't have a true jump in
technology, just keep rebranding the same system with a few tweaks. The
latest sign of their new evil ways I have experienced is with their 800
series of printers. There are two models that are essentially the same
except for price and the dirty little fact that the cheaper unit can
only use the "economy" cartridges which are cheaper but have
much less ink. The other model, essentially the same is more expensive,
but can accept the more economical cartridges with a greater supply of
ink. AARGH!
-----
Lastly, a few weeks you had a few comments
regarding freenet and it's possible effect on creators and copyrighted
material. Then a week later you were discussing OpenMail. In response to
a message regarding the licensing, you "winked" at it. Why
should the OpenMail creators work...? I don't think that was the
intention of what you wrote, but it was the impression I received.
Granted, I have the ability to remember useless things and connect them
in unintended ways.
I'm not sure what you're referring to here. I think you'll find
that in these pages I've never advocated pirating software or violating
license agreements. In reference to OpenMail, I seem to remember that a
reader commented on the non-commercial provisions of the license. I don't
even recall what those are, if in fact there are any. I commented
something like that I considered my own operations to be within whatever
limitations that license had. I say that on two bases. First, although I
have a personal corporation, that's solely for convenience and liability
reasons. The corporation has zero employees, and Barbara and I take both
income and expenses to our personal 1040 and Schedule C.
Second, and more important, I write computer books. Nearly any
software maker, including HP, is happy to send me whatever I ask for,
including full unlimited licenses, in the hope that I'll write about their
products. Journalists and authors are a special case as far as most
software companies are concerned. For example, if I contact Microsoft's PR
agency about getting Windows 2000 Professional, I'll say something like,
"I'll need to run this on a bunch of machines. Can you send me five
licenses?" Their response is typically something like, "Run it
on however many machines you want. Don't worry about the license."
I apologize for the length of this letter.
Feel free to edit. Again... I'm really enjoying your site.
Thank you for your courtesy,
Richard Micko
Clipper Computer Consulting, Inc.
rmicko@ClipperInc.com
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: yarvin-norman@cs.yale.edu [mailto:yarvin-norman@cs.yale.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 12:59 AM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: Tennis musings: some comments
Even though I currently don't play or watch
tennis, and never did so seriously, I found your article "The U. S.
Open and Big Servers" very interesting. I have some comments from a
theoretical perspective.
First, the beam from a radar gun is not at
all sharp and well-defined. A radar gun is usually only five or ten
wavelengths in height and width, and no antenna of that size can produce
a sharp beam. The manufacturers try, but the laws of physics bound what
they can achieve. Not only is the beam fairly wide, but it also usually
has sidelobes. (Those are not required by the laws of physics, but they
are hard to eliminate.) The beam can and will bounce off the ground on
its way to the ball, as well as taking the direct route. If the net is
supported by a metal wire, that wire will generate its own set of
reflections. The "beam width" for incoming signals (that is,
the range of angles over which the unit "listens" for incoming
signals) is identical to the beam width for the outgoing signals --
presuming the same antenna is used for both, as is usual. (The formula
is: theta = 1.22 lambda/d, where lambda is the wavelength, d is the
antenna width, and theta is the beam width in radians. Thus a
five-wavelength antenna produces a 14 degree beam, at best.)
The thing that makes radar speed measurement
at all possible is that the additional reflections all have a lower
doppler shift than the main signal. So the radar unit fires off a wide
beam, gets back all sorts of garbage over a wide angle, and looks for
the highest doppler shift. If this happens to be off a nearby fan, that
is what the reading ends up as. But the operators of the unit would have
to be braindead not to notice this (since they would be getting those
high speeds continuously, rather than just when a serve takes place); it
could happen once in a while, but not on a continuing basis.
On the other hand, your hypothesis that the
speed gun is pointed at a fixed (and low) height doesn't work. Unless
they have a huge antenna, the beam is so wide that it catches everything
including the kitchen sink (if there is one in the area). If it were
pointed too low to catch a large man's serve, it would bounce off the
ground, and come back up. That would reduce the measured speed, since
the reflection would be indirect; but again, the operators would have to
be beyond stupid to point the antenna that low (something like ten
degrees low), every single time.
Doppler radar can be a very accurate thing.
It is essentially a measurement of time, and time can be measured more
accurately than any other physical quantity. At NASA, good doppler
radars are the standard used for calibrating other speed measuring
devices. But there is a serious weak point: the subtraction of the
received frequency from the emitted frequency. If that is done badly,
then additional harmonics can be generated, and doing it perfectly means
constructing something like a perfect multiplier for two
microwave-frequency analog signals -- something that is hard to do even
with a large budget. In serving, the tennis ball moves about twice as
fast as the racket (due to the basic physics of collisions). If the
racket is metal or graphite (both of which conduct electricity well), it
will send back a far stronger signal than the rubber-and-cloth ball
will. Thus harmonics from the motion of the racket can overpower the
signal from the ball. Instead of measuring the speed of the ball, what
would be measured would be 2x or 3x or 4x or some other multiple of the
speed of the racket. The electronics that look for the highest frequency
shift would probably reject the 4x harmonic as giving too high a speed;
the even higher harmonics would suffer the same fate. But the 2x
harmonic would give about the speed of the ball. If the designers of the
radar were not careful, they could easily decide that they were
measuring the speed of the ball, when they actually were measuring twice
the speed of the racket. But if they set this up for men, and measured
the second harmonic, and threw the third harmonic out as being too high,
then when used for women, the same device would measure the third
harmonic, assuming that (as you claim) the serve speeds of men are about
3/2 those of women.
I think this is a much more plausible
hypothesis than the one you offer; in addition to my above comments
about beam width, I don't see any way that a beam aiming error could
give a ridiculously high speed for a woman's serve: I can see how it
could give too low a speed for a man, but not too high a speed for a
woman, assuming that the correct speed is the one measured just after
the ball leaves the racket.
There is a simple way to confirm your doubts
about the speed guns: counting frames on a videotape of a tennis match
in which the radar results are announced. The number of frames between
the ball leaving the racket and it crossing the net can easily be
counted on a decent VCR, and (at exactly 60 frames per second) gives a
good indication of the average speed.
I defer to your superior knowledge of radar. But I can tell you
empirically that there is absolutely no comparison between the power of a
strong male server and that of a strong female server. I've taken serve
from some very powerful women servers, and they simply do not have either
the height (angle) or the power to force a good receiver. I always had
time to respond, and more than enough time to do something with the
return. On the other hand, I once received serve from a guy named Roscoe
Tanner. From the time he struck the ball until the time it impacted the
fence behind me, I simply was not able to react quickly enough to get my
racket on the ball. When I did make contact, it was simply a matter of
blocking the ball back because my racket happened to meet the ball. No
question of doing anything with it. There simply wasn't time.
Back in high-school, we got our hands on a high-speed camera and
some film. That thing had variable speed settings, ranging I believe from
100 frames/second up to something in the thousands. The camera used a
rapidly rotating mirror to sample, so the interval was known and tightly
controlled. We got set up, and then I and another guy who was a huge
server hit a couple practice serves and then served for score. We enlarged
a few of the appropriate frames and then measured distance versus time,
using the known diameter of the tennis ball as a reference (it stayed
squashed for a surprising distance from the racket). As best we could
measure, the other guy managed 146 MPH off his racket, and I managed 137
MPH.
Now, I seem to remember that Venus Williams has been credited
with a serve at or near 137 MPH. There's just no way. First, a 6'0"
or 6"1, she's just not tall enough to be hitting down, and if she
can't hit down a flat serve at that speed will go long every time (and no
one who has ever lived can hit a 137 MPH topspin serve). When I was
playing, one had to be between 6'3" and 6'4" to hit down. It may
be a bit less now, because they've changed the rules on foot faults.
Thirty years ago, if you crossed the plane of the base-line (even
airborne), it was a foot fault. Nowadays, you can cross the plane as long
as your foot doesn't touch the court. That gains you perhaps another foot
or so toward the net, say from 39 feet down to 38 feet.
Against a really big server, stuff happens. Big male servers
periodically knock the net off its supports, hit balls through the net,
and so on. If there's a standard hurricane fence behind you when you're
taking serve from a strong male server, you can count on the fact that
you're going to have to walk behind the fence to retrieve nearly every
ball you let hit the fence. That just doesn't happen with women servers,
no matter how strong they are. I know this from personal experience, so
when a radar gun tells me that a woman server, any woman, is hitting the
ball as hard as or harder than Boris Becker, I know that the radar gun is
wrong.
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I tried to install the HP 6200C scanner software under Windows 2000
Professional on my new secondary system. I figured it would be pretty
easy, given that Device Manager recognized the 6200C by name as being
connected to the USB host controller. No such luck. A quick search of the
HP site tells me that no 6200C drivers are yet available for Windows 2000
when using USB. SCSI is no problem, except that I didn't install a SCSI
host adapter in this machine. So, at this point, I can't use my scanner
via USB with Windows 98 SE because it simply doesn't work. I can't use it
with Windows NT 4 Workstation, because NT4 doesn't support USB. And I
can't use it with Windows 2000 Professional, because HP hasn't released
USB drivers for it yet.
I guess HP really wants you to use this scanner with the SCSI
interface. In fact, they kindly provide a special offer for people who
want to use it under SCSI and have found that the SCSI card that HP
supplied with their scanner isn't supported under Windows 2000. Wouldn't
it have made more sense to provide a Windows 2000 driver for the bundled
SCSI card than force people to buy a new SCSI card?
So I gave up on the scanner for the moment and decided to install the
Windows 2000 Fax Service. That was a non-starter. I already had an old
Practical Peripherals MTII 14.4 data/fax modem sitting on top of one of
the PCs and connected to the fax line, so I tried it first. Everything
apparently went normally. I tried dialing the fax modem on a voice line,
and it answered. I then called Barbara, who was over at the library, and
asked her to fax me something. Again, everything appeared to go normally.
The fax modem answered properly, but it simply refused to receive a fax.
I've had this happen before, so I decided to give up on the PP modem and
try something else.
I had an old U. S. Robotics Sportster 28.8 Faxmodem sitting on the
shelf, so I connected it up and gave it a try. Windows 2000 did not even
detect that the modem was present, which it at least did for the PP. I
tried installing it manually, but W2K simply refused to acknowledge that a
faxmodem was connected to either COM1: or COM2:. I know everything is
connected properly, because I watched the lights on the modem flicker when
W2K pulsed it. It's there, but W2K simply refuses to see it.
I've about had it with faxmodems anyway. I think I just need to do some
research to decide which fax machine to buy. Until recently, I would have
probably concentrated on HP models. No more, though. I may not even look
at them. I suspect that Panasonic or one of the other Japanese
manufacturers has exactly what I want.
And all of this reinforces my opinion that Windows 2000 is not ready
for prime time. There simply aren't enough drivers available for it, and
there are too many mainstream applications that simply won't run under it.
Another good candidate for the Darwin Awards. This guy gets on
an airliner in the Philippines, robs the passengers, and jumps out from an
altitude of 6,000 feet, carrying the loot and wearing a home-made
parachute. The newspaper this morning said they'd found his body buried in
the mud, with only his hands and knees visible. They found the parachute
half a mile away. No mention of the loot.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Waggoner [waggoner at gis dot net]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 11:47 AM
To: Robert Bruce Thompson (E-mail)
Subject: Tennis: Counting VCR frames
If you are counting TV frames on a home VCR,
because of interlace scanning in the American NTSC standard, there are
only 30 frames to a second. Actually, because of how color is integrated
into NTSC, the frame rate is just slightly less than 60hz, so over a
long period of time, counting frames would not correspond with real
time, although the correction for that is a known factor.
Also, some home VCR's are not capable of
advancing just one frame at a time, so that's something else to
consider.
If you want to test whether or not your VCR
is capable of exact frame advance, and you don't have a tape displaying
"burned in" time code (what we use in video editing to make
frame accurate editing choices), then play back a tape of a movie. Pause
and begin advancing one frame at a time. If you can repeatedly count
four frames of action, followed by a fifth frame which is a freeze frame
of the fourth frame, then your machine is capable of accurate
frame-at-a-time advances.
The interspersed frozen frames are necessary
to convert the film rate of 24 frames-per-second to the TV rate of
30fps. Pick a film made for theatrical release, because many filmed
commercials and made-for-TV movies shoot their film at 30fps to match to
TV rate and avoid that frozen frame.
Hmm. Never thought about that, but it makes sense. Thanks. I do
remember wondering why the frame rate was something odd, like 59.875
frames/second (or whatever) when I was reading the manual for a TV capture
card.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Sherburne Jr [mailto:ryszards@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 4:43 PM
To: 'webmaster@ttgnet.com'
Subject: Mr. Ricketson's disaster recovery thoughts
Why not try Ghost? If the idea is perfectly
sure recovery, data on a drive in a partition, OS on same drive in
another partition. Then use Ghost, widely available since Norton
Symantec bought them to "Ghost" that 2 partition drive to the
second drive. Then, if things on the operating drive go awry, just ghost
back from the duplicate. Seems to work much better than any drive copy
software I have seen elsewhere, although I think you must get a newer
version to have NTFS compatability. Just a though, learned from managing
my two preschoolers computer. Preschoolers have amazing curiosity about
the things a computer can do, sometimes that is a Really Bad Thing.
Ghosting the drive to a 2nd drive and unplugging drive 2 keeps me from
going nuts when they eventually once a month or so do their Bad Thing,
always resulting in "Daddy, the computer is broken" calls.
Thanks. I've never used Ghost, although I'm vaguely familiar with
its features. PowerQuest Drive Image is a very similar product. In
addition to disaster recovery, a lot of companies use it for cloning
workstations. I suspect that either product would do what Mr. Ricketson
wants to do. And you're right about kids and PCs. Years ago, back in the
days of ST506/412 hard disks, I knew a guy who made the mistake of leaving
a floppy disk with a low-level format utility in the vicinity of his home
PC. He arrived home from work one day to find that his 9 year old had been
playing with the computer and had done a low-level format of his hard
disk. It could have been worse, though. Fortunately, he had a Compaq 20 MB
tape drive installed on that machine, and had a recent backup he'd done
with it.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: yarvin-norman@cs.yale.edu [mailto:yarvin-norman@cs.yale.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 5:09 PM
To: thompson@ttgnet.com
Subject: RE: Tennis musings: some comments
Sorry, I should have made it clearer that I
wasn't trying to contest your observations or opinions in any way (nor
am I now); indeed, I was assuming they were correct, and proposing an
explanation for why the radar gun would yield a bad result, in
particular about 3/2 of the correct speed, which is about what you've
seen it yield in televised matches, if I read your article correctly.
Since the time one has to react to a ball
going an average of 100 MPH is about half a second, and since part of
that is eaten up by human reaction time, of maybe a quarter of a second
(perhaps a tenth of a second at very best), it is thoroughly believable
that there is no time even to get the racket on the ball. (A ball that
starts off at upwards of 100 MPH, reaches the net at about 100 MPH, and
continues dropping in speed from there will have an average speed of
something like 100 MPH. Actually the average is not precisely the right
measure to use, but it is close enough. 100 MPH = 146 feet/second; over
a distance of 78 feet, that is about half a second.)
As well as the height issue, there is also
the issue of brute strength. Women have much less upper body strength
than men (roughly half), and this has to make a difference. A ball with
about half the energy will have about 70% of the speed, which again is
in the same ballpark as your figures.
I also have some comments on the distinction
between "serving up" and "serving down". Perhaps I
should just ask what the distinction is, but it seems better to first
examine whether the phrases can be taken literally. If they were taken
literally, the dividing line between these two things would be the ball
being hit purely horizontally. If the ball is hit horizontally, then it
hits the ground after about
t=sqrt(2*h/g) seconds,
where h is the starting height, and g is the
force of gravity; taking a starting height of 3 meters, this works out
to .77 seconds. (Actually it is longer than this, since there is some
air drag, made larger by the forward motion of the ball, but take this
as a lower bound.) To reach the service line in that time, it would be
traveling at an average of 39+21 feet / .77 seconds = 80 feet/second =
54 MPH (or even lower than this, if air drag is taken into account). But
that speed is much lower than competitive serve speeds, even for women;
clearly a literal interpretation doesn't work.
Your statements:
"I'm a little over 6'3", and that
just happens to be about the minimum height needed to be able to hit
down on a serve. Anyone much shorter than that has to hit up on a serve
in order to clear the net. I know it doesn't look that way, but it is
true nonetheless. You can prove it by measuring the height to the middle
of the fully extended racket, and then using the known distances (39
feet from baseline to net and 21 feet from net to service line)."
make it sound like what is needed to
"hit down" on a serve is a straight-line path from the middle
of the racket to the service line. The required height of the center of
the racket for that would be 8'7", which is about right: the
extended arm is maybe another foot above head height, and the racket
adds the rest. This seems like a useful criterion, since if there is a
straight-line path, then you can fire off serves at an arbitrarily high
speed. At realistic speeds, there is some ball drop due to gravity,
which gives you a margin of error:
speed drop at net drop at
service difference
(MPH) (feet)
line (feet)
70
2.3
5.4
3.1
80
1.8
4.2
2.4
90
1.4
3.3
1.9
100
1.1
2.7
1.6
110
0.93
2.2
1.3
120
0.78
1.85
1.07
130
0.66
1.58
0.92
140
0.57
1.36
0.79
These numbers are not to be taken too
seriously, since they were computed assuming constant speed, but the
"difference" is about how much margin of error exists, if
there is just barely a straight-line path from the center of the racket
to the service line.
Despite the imprecision, I've beaten this
one to death to my own satisfaction, and probably to your great boredom,
so I'll quit now.
--
Norman Yarvin
yarvin@cs.yale.edu
I love it. That's exactly the kind of playing with numbers I like
to do. As you say, though, the numbers can't be taken seriously for
several reasons. First, of course, is the fact that velocity is not
constant. A ball that leaves the racket at 150 MPH is down to perhaps 100
MPH by the time it reaches the net. Second is spin. Most servers hit even
a "flat" serve with some topspin, although there are exceptions.
The great Ellsworth Vines, who played in the 1930's, was one such. He hit
*everything* flat, including volleys. They used to say that if you stood
at mid court you could see the lettering on the ball as it went past. I
remember watching footage of Vines playing. At one point, he hit an
overhead that bounced once and then nailed a linesman in the forehead. It
knocked the guy unconscious, and they brought in a stretcher to haul him
away. If you could magically drop Vines at Wimbledon today, he'd still
probably be the hardest hitter on the tour, even using his old wooden
racket.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Sturm [mailto:jpsturm@dingoblue.net.au]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:15 PM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Build your own vs brand name
For the last few years I have been buying my
machines from a white box builder, EYO here in Australia. I specify
every part in the box and EYO assembles it for $A30. My rates are
$A75/hr so it's not worth having the parts shipped for me to assemble. I
can specify OEM or retail parts for most things so I have all the
control over a machine I want and I save over the cost of HP, Dell,
Compaq etc.
The real cost saving to me, though, is the
ease of servicing. Having struggled for a day and a half with my
sister's proprietary machine (a Packard Bell) recently, I would suggest
only buying proprietary if you know you are going to get decent service
from the supplier. My white boxes from EYO contain standard parts that
are available overnight in most cases in the event of hardware failure.
The only proprietary box I ever bought, a
Zenith 286, failed under warranty (12 mths) three times and took 2 weeks
to be repaired each time. I could have purchased 2 white boxes for what
I paid for that machine and continued working instead of losing 6 weeks
out of my working year. Of course that is what I subsequently did,
though the number of machines is now 4, not including a combined
router/hub/modem/DHCP server from Intel.
On a different note, I too am becoming
disenchanted with HP. They want $A1,195 for a PostScript SIMM for my
LJ5P! A new 2100M is less than $A400 extra. I am seriously thinking of
trying Lexmark.
Jonathan Sturm
PS Really like your site :-) Looking forward
to reading some of your books.
Thanks for the kind words. I agree that proprietary PCs are to be
avoided.
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We slept downstairs in my mother's area last night. We'd been under
severe thunderstorm and tornado watches all day, and the last of them
wasn't to expire until 2:00 a.m. So we pulled out the sofa bed and camped
out downstairs with my mother and all three dogs. Barbara says she slept
well. Malcolm did, too, although he had to spend the whole night in his
large crate. As it turned out, nothing happened. We didn't even get any
rain.
We've been cautious about storms ever since 1989. During the May 5th
storm that year, we were at a friend's house. She was fairly recently
arrived from Britain and had no experience of Spring weather in the U.S.
As we were sitting talking and listening to the wind coming up, Barbara
and I suggested that it'd be a good idea to go hide in her basement. She
thought we were being ridiculous, but as it turned out we were wise to
have done so. As we sat there in the basement, we couldn't figure out what
the loud thumping noises were. As it turned out, they were caused by
falling trees. The entire area was wrecked by that storm. Alison's back
yard was a disaster area, with trees down all over the place. Barbara's
parents, who live a couple miles from Alison's house, had several of their
huge oaks--200 or 300 years old and four feet thick at the base--ripped
out. The powers that be later said that this storm wasn't a tornado, but
anyone who saw the aerial views, which showed a clear linear track,
thought otherwise.
Then, little more than a month later, on June 8th, we had another
non-tornado. This one trashed our area. We were sitting in the den
watching television when a crawler came across the bottom of the screen
saying that a tornado had touched down on Witherow Road. That's where we
live, and the entire road is only three blocks long, so we were a bit
concerned. We immediately headed for the basement. As we reached the door,
we heard a loud crash from the living room, where one of the columns from
our front porch had come through a window. When the storm passed, we went
outside and found that part of our roof had been ripped off. They later
said that that storm hadn't been a tornado, either. Instead, they said
we'd had "micro-bursts" which are apparently localized
high-speed (100 to 200 MPH) downdrafts. Whatever. We sure felt as though
we'd been through a tornado.
When we subsequently made over the downstairs area to make it an
apartment for my mother, one of the things we did was build a reinforced
wall around the kitchen. It's framed with staggered 2X8's and steel
columns every four feet, and is covered with heavy plywood sheathing with
solid tongue-and-groove 1" yellow pine paneling over it. I'd actually
considered building a storm wall out of filled concrete block, but decided
the reinforced wall we ended up using was adequate.
So now anytime severe weather threatens, Barbara and I just head for
the basement. The dogs seem happier down there as well.
* * * * *
There have been a couple of regrettable incidents over the last
few months when I in good faith published an email message from someone
who subsequently mailed me to say he was upset because his message (or
email address) was not intended for publication. I try very hard to honor
requests for special handling, and in fact I often mail someone to ask if
it's okay to publish his message if there's any question in my mind that
part or all of it might have been intended as a private message.
Also, busy as I am, it sometimes takes me longer than I'd like to
respond to email messages, particularly those that are not a high priority
for me. People sometimes become irate when I don't respond instantly or
if, when I respond, they consider my response too short or otherwise
inadequate. In one notable case, someone mailed me to ask for detailed
consulting advice. Basically, he wanted me to tell him, in detail and
step-by-step, how to set up an internetwork with components that he'd
already chosen and with which I was not familiar. By the time I read his
first message, he'd also sent several more increasingly irate messages
asking me why the hell I hadn't responded yet. By the last one, he seemed
to be frothing at the mouth. Needless to say, I never did respond to his
message, and I put the sender's address in my kill file. For all I know,
he's stroked out by now.
I don't understand people like that. It's bad enough that they expect
free consulting advice, but they expect it Right Now. Do they think I'm
their slave or something? I used to respond to such messages quoting my
$250/hour billing rate and the fact that I required a substantial retainer
be paid up front, but I stopped doing that when I realized that one of
them might actually hire me. I have no desire to work for anyone who would
send such messages, regardless of how much they're willing to pay.
At any rate, the following material will appear at the top of my
journal page beginning with next week's edition:
About Mail
IF YOU SEND MAIL to thompson@ttgnet.com
or webmaster@ttgnet.com, I may
publish it, including your email address. If you do not want your
message published; or do not want your email address published; or want
your email address published but in disguised form (e.g. thompson at
ttgnet dot com); or want a different email address published than what
appears in your "From:" field; or want your message published
anonymously, send your message to anonymos@bellsouth.net
and note whatever special handling you want at the top of the message. I
don't publish many completely anonymous messages, but I do my best to
honor requests to remove or conceal senders' email addresses. Note that
if I reply to one of your messages, my message will be From: thompson@ttgnet.com,
so if you reply to one of my replies and want any special handling, make
sure to change the To: field to anonymos@bellsouth.net
before you send your reply.
I try to respect confidences, but I sometimes
get more than 100 email messages a day, not counting mailing list
traffic and spam. Things are always very hectic around here, and stuff
happens. Using anonymos@bellsouth.net
helps me keep things sorted out. Using it is not a 100% guarantee that I
won't mishandle your message, but it is about 99.999% certain, because
messages sent to that account are sorted into a special Outlook mail
folder.
If mail you send to one of my ttgnet.com
addresses bounces, you can resend it to ttgnet@bellsouth.net.
That's my alternate main mail address, and I check it frequently. I try
to answer mail as soon as possible, but it's gotten to the point where I
simply don't have time to reply to all of it. So if you send me
mail and get a short reply or no reply at all, I apologize. I'm working
as hard as I can.
* * * * *
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Micko [mailto:rmicko@clipperinc.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 11:55 AM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Build-Your-Own vs. Dell
Mr. Thompson:
Please do not think I'm trying to beat a
dead horse. I repeat from my earlier message: I used to be a firm
believer in building PCs myself for myself and my customers. If I
thought I could deliver something better, I would continue to build them
myself for my customers. However I am convinced this in no longer true.
I would like to know where your mileage differs. Again, as recently as 1
- 2 years ago, I completely agreed with you.
I would like to challenge your assertion of
saving $200 - $400 on a system. This morning I surfed to the Dell site
and pulled up what I hope is a fair system for comparison (I will
re-type from Dell's printout):
Date: Saturday, May 27, 2000 9:07:40AM CDT
Catalog Number: 04 19
Dell Dimension XPS T600r, Pentium III 600MHz
128MB 100MHz SDRAM
QuietKey Keyboard
17" .28dp E770 Monitor
16MB ATI Rage 128 Pro
10GB Ultra ATA Harddrive (7200rpm)
1.44mb Floppy Drive
Win98SE
MS Intellimouse
3Com v.90/56K PCI Telephony Modem
12X DVD-ROM w/sw Decoding (**free upgrade offer)
Turtle Beach Montego II A3D320V
harmon kardon speakers
Office 2000 SBE w/Encarta2000
Norton Antivirus 2000
1 Year NBD On-Site Parts&Labor, Yrs 2&3 Parts
$1309.00
I then tried to price a similar system in
parts. I realized that I didn't want to spend a gross amount of time to
make sure I had a perfect apples to apples comparison, so I made a few
quick choices on individual components, but I think everything is
similar. I priced most of the parts from The Chip Merchant
(store.yahoo.com/thechipmerchant), hoping they were a fair
representative, unless where noted.
Case: ATX 7A095-06 $34.00
Tyan Tsunami 400 s1854 ATX mb $105.00
Intel P3 600e OEM $248.00
Fan: $12.00
128mb PC100 (CT16M64S4D83 from crucial) $107.99
Keyboard: NMBS 104key $13.00
Viewsonic Q71 17" .27dp $234.00
ATI Xpert 128 16mb $79.00
Western Digital 10.2GB 7200rpm $127.00
Mitsubishi 1.44mb FD $12.00
Windows 98SE OEM $92.00
MS USB Intellimouse $18.00
Diamond Supramax 56K PCI modem $31.00
Shuttle 10X IDE DVD-ROM $128.00
SoundBlaster Live Value OEM $52.00
Altec Lansing ACS22 Speakers $28.00
Office 2K SBE (D&H Distributing. you must be a MS System Builder.
3pack, $535.00) $178.33
Norton AntiVirus 2000 $34.95
$1534.27
In addition this comparison doesn't include
a value for assembly, software load, or the warranty. I readily admit I
normally get somewhat better pricing from different channels, but the
prices at the chip merchant seem reasonable. If I worked at it I may
find better costs to shave off an additional $100 - $150.00, but
certainly not enough savings to save $425.27, which would save me the
$200.00 you claim you can build an equal system for. Also, I included a
Microsoft System Builder price for Office SBE. An ordinary consumer may
not have access to that, in which case copy of Office 2000 standard
would be ~ $395.00 (www.buy.com).
Also, you remarked that the large
integrators will always choose the lesser quality/performance components
and therefore you can build a better performing system by choosing your
own components. I can only speak for dell, which is who I decided to
partner with for hardware. In their case, I can testify that the
components are the same quality components I have been choosing. Intel
CPUs, Western Digital and Maxtor HDs, etc. I can testify to this since I
can't help but open a system up to see how they're built. Find me a
tinkerer who can resists the urge to "pop the hood" to see
what kind of engine is in there. I cannot speak about the graphic
cards... I don't pay that much attention. I can say that the Dells I've
spec'ed out and worked with performed as well as anything I've built
myself. Most of my desktop work is for offices, so graphic performance
is not high on the list.
I agree that I also dislike proprietary
systems. I have done quite a bit of work on Packard Bells, HPs,
Gateways... they have always been a pain to deal with due to the odd
riser card, etc. However Dell's next day service makes it less of a
consideration. If it breaks, they fix it. Also, their systems seem
fairly standard for most things.
What I feel that is happening with PCs is
analogous to the auto industry. In the early days of the auto industry
there were many smiths who made, repaired, and tinkered with cars. Then
consolidation occurred and there our only a few manufacturers left.
There are still a few small operations making custom automobiles, but in
general you only buy from a few manufacturers. I see the PC Industry
going the same way. There will always be some number of people building
their own PCs, but more and more one will only buy from a few
manufacturers. No one I know assembles their own car from parts for
general transportation.
I would like to see where your mileage
differs. Honestly, I would like to build my own systems again in general
if I thought there was a benefit, but there isn't. (I still build my own
systems for personal use. But that's for my own personal enjoyment or
hobby.)
-----
I did not intend to accuse you of advocating
software piracy. I felt that your comments
on OpenMail, left me with that unintended impression. Those of us in the
industry all have ways to legally get software for evaluation and
training use. Perhaps not having to pay full board for software is where
you are saving $200 - $400 when building your own system?
Have a restful and enjoyable Memorial Day.
Thank you for your courtesy,
Richard Micko
Clipper Computer Consulting, Inc.
rmicko@ClipperInc.com
Well, I don't have time at the moment to do an apples-to-apples
comparison, but I cut the text below from the first draft manuscript of PC
Hardware in a Nutshell. This is from the chapter on building PCs, which
configures systems for various purposes. This figures are from some time
back, so they're no longer realistic, but they are a valid comparison. As
far as software cost, I think you're overestimating. You can get OEM
copies of stuff when you order a motherboard, and sometimes even when you
order just a hard disk. I've seen OEM deals for around $50 that include
Win98, Works, Encarta, Money, and so on. You can get the full Office 97
SBE OEM version for about $100, or O2K for about $150.
Component
|
Model
|
Price
|
Case
|
PC Power & Cooling Personal Mid-Tower
|
$ 65
|
Power supply
|
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 275 ATX
|
99
|
Processor
|
Intel Celeron/433
|
75
|
Motherboard
|
Intel SR440BX
|
150
|
Memory
|
Crucial CT8M64S4D75, 64 MB PC133 SDRAM DIMM
|
99
|
Hard disk
|
Seagate Barracuda ATA 28.5 GB 7200 RPM DMA/66
|
200
|
CD-ROM drive
|
Smart & Friendly SAF798 SpeedWriter Plus
2X4X24 CD-R(W)
|
150
|
Tape drive
|
OnStream DI-30 15/30 GB ADR tape drive w/ six
tapes
|
390
|
Floppy drive
|
Mitsumi 1.44 MB
|
15
|
Keyboard
|
Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro
|
50
|
Mouse
|
Microsoft IntelliMouse with IntelliEye
|
49
|
Monitor
|
Hitachi SuperScan Elite 640 17” SVGA
|
250
|
Speakers
|
Labtec LCS-2414
|
35
|
UPS
|
APC BP420S Back-UPS Pro 420 VA
|
195
|
|
Shipping
and miscellaneous
|
53
|
|
Grand
Total
|
$ 1,875
|
Table 13-2. Component list for a
mainstream system
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Sturm [mailto:jpsturm@dingoblue.net.au]
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 7:50 PM
To: webmaster@ttgnet.com
Subject: Win2k woes
While I have great sympathy for your
problems with Win2k and agree that the lack of driver support from
manufacturers is frustrating (and bewildering) I must disagree that
Win2k is not ready for prime time. From *my* point of view, it has been
ready for prime time for a year. That's how long I've been using it as
my primary OS.
The only apps I can't run under Win2k (even
with appcompat.exe) are Myst, Zork Nemesis and Zork Grand Inquisitor).
Sadly, it runs Civilisation: Call to Power and Sid Meier's Alpha
Centauri at least as well as Win9.x. I say sadly because I lose a day's
work if I fire up any of these games and having to boot another OS to do
so is a disincentive.
My solitary USB device, an Orb removable
hdd, was an example of Plug'n'Play as it should be. I plugged and it
played.
As an experiment, I grabbed an old Netcom
2400 fax/modem and plugged it into a comm port. Win2k recognised it as a
generic Hayes compatible and it appears to work fine on Fax. I decided
not to test it for data transfer! Win2k also has no problem with the
3Com/US Robotics Voice FaxModem that so far has been tested only for
sending and receiving faxes on a normal telephone line. This coming week
I will have my telco provide the secondary telephone number for
voice/fax on the voice line. If you don't hear otherwise, it works fine.
The only reason this is not already in place is because the modem inside
the Intel iStation router/hub/DHCP server/firewall provides unacceptable
pings for my son's on-line gameplay. I am hoping that the beta software
provided by Intel solves that problem.
The only driver issue I have had to face
with Win2k so far was with a Matrox G400 video card in the new machine.
The Certified driver could detect no Matrox card in the machine. Under
Win98 in the same machine the machine crashed on initialisation of the
desktop, so I returned the video card. Seems to me that Matrox are
losing it with driver development under more than just Win2k.
Since my scanning needs have been minimal
until recently, I have held off on buying a scanner. When I discovered
that Canon have released an excellent transparency scanner (FS2710) at
an affordable price, I ordered one. Still waiting for delivery 6 weeks
later :-( Canon have a driver for Win2k and claim that NT4 driver will
work under Win2k also. We will see.
Since I have pretty well decided on the HP
ScanJet 5200 as suitable for my document scanning needs, I await the
release by HP of a working Win2k driver before shelling out my hard
earned cash.
I have no love for Win9.x as an OS for
serious workstation use. I was an instant convert to NT with the final
beta of NT4 WS. I only crashed NT4 3 times prior to switching to Win2k.
Twice was directly attributable to my own stupidity, so my assumption is
that the 3rd occasion was due to the same :-)
Hmm. Well, my scanner software won't run under W2K, nor will
Adaptec EasyCD 3.5 (and, yes, I know about the workarounds that are
supposed to let it work under W2K, but it won't), Adaptec DirectCD,
Onstream Echo tape backup software, Veritas Backup Exec backup software,
the CD utilities supplied with my Plextor CD-R(W) drives, my screen
capture program, my web stats processing program, or my wife's Palm synch
program. There are several other programs I use regularly that won't run,
but I think you get the point. The driver support in W2K is also pathetic.
There isn't any driver support at all for a lot of mainstream hardware
products, and even those that are supported are often supported poorly. I
mean, what use is a driver for a 3D accelerator if that driver provides
only 2D functions? If that doesn't make W2K not ready for prime time, I
don't know what does. Conversely, everything works under Windows NT4. I
see no reason to fix something that ain't broke.
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