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Week of 5/17/99

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A (mostly) daily journal of the trials, tribulations, and random observations of Robert Bruce Thompson, a writer of computer books.


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Monday, May 17, 1999

If you didn't read the updates last weekend, check back to last week. I posted quite a lot of interesting new stuff Saturday and Sunday.

I've been testing an Intel Pentium III/550 (actually a QB78ES engineering sample) for about a month now. As you might expect, it's the fastest processor I've ever used. Although this CPU is by far the most overclockable of the Pentium IIIs released to date, I tested it only at its rated speed. I tested it against a Pentium II/450 and a Pentium III/450 using the standard Ziff-Davis benchmarks and found no surprises. The 450 MHz processors provided essentially identical benchmark numbers, and the 550 MHz processor benchmarked about 22% faster than either of them, as might be expected from the relative clock speeds.

What really sets the Pentium III apart from the Pentium II and Celeron is the Pentium III's support for Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE). SSE (formerly Katmai New Instructions, KNI) is essentially a floating-point version of MMX--a set of new instructions that optimize handling of array data structures common to such things as speech processing and graphics. An application must be SSE-aware to benefit from those instructions. As a matter of policy, I do not use vendor-supplied benchmarks. But I had no SSE-aware applications to use in testing, and Intel had supplied an SSE-enabled benchmark suite. So I ran those benchmarks on the three processors.

Although I won't report those numbers, I will say that the difference is dramatic. As expected, the PIII/450 and the PIII/550 maintained the same performance relative to each other that you might expect on the basis of simple clock speeds. Both, however, pulled well away from the PII/450, again as expected. Intel is a reputable company, and I have little doubt that the benchmarks they supplied reflect reality. But until SSE-enabled applications appear, the benefit of SSE will remain largely theoretical. Once those applications are available, I suspect the real-world performance benefits of the Pentium III will become obvious.

Cruising around the web this morning, I find several reports on the Pentium III/550. Most of them, however, make one or both of the following errors:

  • Heat production - several reports say the the Pentium III/550 runs very hot. That has not been my experience, albeit with only one sample. The Pentium III/550 I have been testing runs no warmer than other processors I have tested. Once it achieves equilibrium, it typically runs at about at about 105F to 107F (40.6C - 41.7C), warm but by no means hot. The Pentium III/550 is supplied with a large finned heatsink with an embedded fan. Although this heatsink/fan does a decent job of cooling the PIII/550, it's probably a good idea to install this processor in a case that provides good cooling airflow. In fact, it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a separate muffin fan to route airflow directly across the processor.
  • Motherboard compatibility - many reports state that the Pentium III/550 can be used in nearly any Slot 1 motherboard, perhaps with a BIOS upgrade. And it may run successfully, at least for a while. But the problem is that the Pentium III/550 draws more current than many Slot 1 processors, and the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) on any particular motherboard may not be rated to supply that much current. Running the Pentium III/550 in such a motherboard may result in overstressing the VRM, destroying the motherboard and perhaps damaging the processor. If you purchase a Pentium III/550, make sure that your motherboard is rated to run it. Many "Pentium III" motherboards are rated only for the PIII/450 or the PIII/450 and PIII/500. Nor is it safe to judge simply by motherboard model number. Motherboard manufacturers "slipstream" upgrades, and you may have to check the revision level, serial number, or manufacturing date to be sure that your particular motherboard is rated for the Pentium III/550.

Much has been made of the cost of the Pentium III/550. At $744, this is definitely not a mainstream processor. The Pentium III/450 at $268 provides about 82% of the performance at 36% of the cost. Intel is obviously targeting this CPU at the performance market--those for whom even a 20% performance boost or thereabouts is worth a lot. And there are many such people. It makes sense to put a Pentium III/550 on the desk of an executive or engineer who spends a lot of time crunching numbers. That few hundred dollars extra CPU cost is quickly paid for by making that person more efficient. For the rest of us, the real benefit of the Pentium III/550 is the downward price pressure it exerts on the other CPUs that Intel sells.

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This from Tom Syroid [tsyroid@home.com], who has both a new baby and the pieces of a new computer to put together this week:

Thanks. Everything is indeed well here. I fully expect to get a call from a nurse this morning asking me to please come and get my wife as she is driving the ward nurses nuts...

So far so good on the system. I always find the hardest part is deciding what to buy. From here, it's pretty much simply tying everything together.

I'd appreciate your advice on a good program to "stress test" my CPUs (preferrably freeware or at least shareware). I was going to download one of the iterations of WinBench today. I've also heard, though, that some people use either Quake or Doom to do this test (??). My plan is to install the one CPU, set it for nominal 2.0 volts, set the FSB to 100, and load a CPU intensive task to check for reliability at 450 MHz. (I suspect I'll just load a base NT install on the front of the HDD for this, then delete it and start over when I'm done). When one CPU is proven, I'll swap in the other one and repeat the process. If a CPU fails, I'll play with voltages. If I have any of this wrong, or you have a better way, shout this way -- I'll be listening...

Cheers,
/tom

tom syroid
tsyroid@home.com
Web: http://members.home.net/the.syroids

Sounds like a plan. WinBench should be just fine for stress testing. One minor change I'd suggest: install your CPUs first at 66 MHz FSB to make sure everything works at the rated speed. Then take the steps you mention. Actually, once you see how Windows NT performs on a system with dual 300 MHz CPUs, you may decide not to bother overclocking.

 


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Tuesday, May 18, 1999

The Register this morning reports an interesting story. Apparently, there is some doubt as to whether Windows 2000 will run on Celerons or, more specifically, on CPUs with less than 256KB L2 cache. The Danish computer magazine ComputerDK reports that the Danish Microsoft website reports this requirement, but the U.S. site does not. Although I speak no Danish, I do have enough German that I can usually puzzle out the general sense of things written in Nordic languages, and the Danish site does appear to say that W2K requires a desktop system with at least a 300 MHz processor with 256KB of secondary cache.

Well, the thought struck me that I have a Windows 2000 Professional Beta 3 installation CD lying on the desk in front of me, and a Celeron/333 testbed system with an empty partition sitting on the credenza behind me, so I decided to fire it up and see what happened. The first interesting thing was that W2K Setup offered to upgrade the existing installation of Windows 98. I told it I wanted to install a new version rather than upgrade Win98.

The installation went normally, with no hangs or long pauses. Setup even detected the LinkSys 100BaseT Ethernet card, which NT4 does not. When Setup completed, I restarted the system and did an exhaustive test by playing a game of FreeCell. Everything appears to work normally, so I conclude that the report about W2K not running on Celerons is incorrect. Perhaps the Danish version requires 256KB of L2 cache, but Beta 3 of the U.S. version does not.

One weird thing, though. There are apparently some problems with W2K and DHCP. I first noticed strangeness when I installed W2K on old sherlock (now odin). The installation appeared to complete normally, and odin connected to the network. But when I turned around and looked at the Win98 testbed system on my credenza, it was displaying a DHCP error message saying that there were duplicate machines assigned the same IP address. I went into WINS Manager and killed some entries, and that situation appeared to clear up. Just now, I restarted the testbed system in Win98. It displayed a DHCP error message at startup to tell me that I did not have network connectivity. I went into WINS Manager again, and find that that machine under both W2K and Win98 is assigned 192.168.111.97. The fact that I have "two" machines with the same MAC address is likely causing the problem, so I won't blame that on W2K.

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Which brings me to some comments on W2K itself. Although Microsoft is not completely (or even primarily) responsible for "beta inflation", this "Beta 3" release continues the greek-letter inflation that's been going on for many years. This version is really an Alpha in the original sense of the term. Back when I was involved with software development, an Alpha was an in-house version, with known bugs and missing features. We'd have been embarrassed to allow any outsider to see an Alpha.

A Beta was what would now be called a "Release Candidate". A Beta had all features implemented and all known bugs fixed. It was something that we were ready to let the outside world see. We would have a limited number of customers test the Beta in real-world circumstances. Some software companies went further, using a Gamma cycle to make absolutely sure that no bugs remained.

Nowadays, what's really an Alpha is called a Beta, and what's really a Beta is called the shipping version. We've somehow gotten to the point where no software is ever really finished and where we all constantly use Betas in production environments.

And this so-called Beta 3 of W2K is what I'd call a late Alpha. Right now, to my mind at least, it is very far from being ready for prime time. It crashes frequently, and has numerous weirdities, including a very aggravating random screen flicker. More than anything, Beta 3 reminds me of Windows 9x. It has all the PnP and other stuff that heretofore has been present only in Win9x. It also has the stability problems of Win9x.

Obviously, Microsoft can define W2K however they want to. But if they intend to ship a version that includes all the stuff they've promised, I don't see any way they can do it in less than a year.

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Two tragedies in the morning paper. Two children dead. The first, an eleven-year-old girl was killed by her six-year-old brother, who found a shotgun in the weeds, picked it up, pointed it at her, and pulled the trigger. I hope they find the person who left that shotgun there and throw the book at him.

The second, a six-year-old boy, was killed by a driver who didn't realize that she was required to stop for a stopped school bus. Barbara and my first reaction was anger that anyone could be so stupid as to do such a thing. Our second reaction was more understanding. The driver was from Costa Rica, works for Sara Lee there, and was visiting a Sara Lee plant here. She told the police that she saw the school bus, but didn't realize that she was required to stop because in Costa Rica there is no such requirement.

As I told Barbara, that's analagous to someone from a state where right-turn-on-red is legal making such a turn while visiting a state where right turns are not allowed on red. He's breaking the law, but unintentionally and without malice. Barbara mentioned that on her trip to Nova Scotia last fall, she and her parents were surprised to find that drivers came to a complete stop for pedestrians under any circumstances, and that a visitor from Nova Scotia might easily be run down here because he would expect U.S. drivers to do the same. So it seems to us that, although a little boy is tragically dead, it was indeed simply an accident, with no malice nor even negligence. Just because a very bad thing happens doesn't necessarily mean that someone is at fault. That's no consolation to the parents, of course, but the driver will live with this for the rest of her life.

 


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Wednesday, May 19, 1999

I've gotten quite a few messages asking about Jerry Pournelle's site. I don't know exactly what the problem is, but the site was recently moved to a different server, and it seems that the DNS changes have not yet propagated. We don't know at this point how long it's going to take.

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I've given up doing a weekly book recommendation, but the one I'm reading now is worth recommending. It's titled The Professor and the Madman and is about, of all things, the creation of the Oxford English Dictionary. The professor is James Murray, who spent more than 40 years as the editor of the OED, dying before its completion after 70 years of effort. The madman is Dr. W.C. Minor, a delusional American Army Surgeon who was confined to the Broadmoor insane asylum for murdering a man he mistook for an Irish assassin. Via correspondence with Murray, Minor contributed significantly to the OED. This strange but fascinating tale is one of the best books I've read in months. If you have any interest in the English language or the OED, this book is a must-read. You can buy it directly from Amazon.com by clicking here.

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This from Paul Robichaux [paul@robichaux.net]. It's a long one, but I think it's worth the space to post and your time to read:

Sorry for the spam, Bob, but I think this is important.

I'm writing to ask you to raise your voice to Congress on an issue of great and urgent importance. Under civil asset forfeiture, the government can take and keep the property of people who have been accused, but not convicted, of drug crimes, or whose property has been used without their knowledge to facilitate a drug crime. In 80 percent of the forfeiture cases, charges are never even filed. Please take two minutes right now to fill out the Drug Reform Coordination Network's online forfeiture petition at <http://www.drcnet.org/forfeiture/>.

The issue is especially urgent, because bipartisan legislation, H.R. 1658, has been filed by leaders in the House Judiciary Committee: Henry Hyde, committee chairman, John Conyers, ranking minority member, republican Bob Barr and democrat Barney Frank. The bill is sure to meet resistance in the House, and needs support to get introduced and passed in the Senate.

If you're not yet ready to act, maybe reading some asset forfeiture stories will help you make up your mind:

Kip Baker was staying at a friend's home in Anchorage, Alaska, when federal agents showed up at the door and informed him that his friend was involved in a marijuana-growing network and the government was taking the house and its contents. Baker was never charged with a crime, but agents seized his ivory collection, the heirloom diamond ring off his finger, and the gold nugget from around his neck. After a year and a half of fighting bureaucracies, a federal prosecutor informed him that the government had sold his possessions.

Juana Lopez was stopped by DEA agents outside a bus depot in New York City with $4,750 cash in her purse. After questioning, the officer realized he had previously arrested her husband for drug charges and told her she was free to go, but he would keep the money because a drug dog had reacted to it. Mrs. Lopez has produced receipts showing that all of her money was legally obtained; a third of the money was borrowed, another third came from the sale of some jewelry, and the rest came from her savings as a hair stylist. The money was earmarked to pay legal fees for her husband.

Ethel Hyton had $39,110 seized during a search by DEA agents at Hobby Airport in Houston. The agents searched her bags and ordered a strip search of Miss Hylton, but found no contraband. Police claimed a drug dog had scratched at her luggage, although Ms. Hylton never saw a dog. The money which Ms. Hylton had was a settlement from an insurance claim, coupled with her life savings, which was being used to buy a house.

Please help stop the injustice of the government's legalized theft! H.R. 1658 will put the burden of proof back on the government, protect innocent owners, provide counsel to indigent forfeiture defendants, eliminate the "cost-bond" requirement for for defendants to put up money to challenge the forfeiture of their property, allow defendants to keep their property while a case in in process, and make the government responsible for damage it causes to property that gets returned to the owners.

Please visit http://www.drcnet.org/forfeiture/ to tell your Representative and Senators to support H.R. 1658 and restore Constitutional due process of law!

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Paul Robichaux | paul@robichaux.net | http://www.robichaux.net
Robichaux & Associates: programming, writing, teaching, consulting

I've written about this before, and Dean Koontz treated the subject at length in his novel Dark Rivers of the Heart. People who still believe that the federal government is basically good and well-meaning have difficulty believing that this can be true. But it is. Your property can be confiscated at will by government agents. You don't have to be convicted of any crime. In fact, you don't have to be charged with any crime. In fact, a major goal of people who have had their property so confiscated is to get themselves charged with a crime so that they can prove their innocence and have some hope of getting their property back. But, hard though this may be to believe, even if you are charged and subsequently acquitted, the government is under no obligation to return your property, and often doesn't. We are living in a totalitarian state. Believe it. Government is not your friend.

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This from Don Armstrong [darmst@lto.nsw.gov.au]:

In your Daynotes, you said "So it seems to us that, although a little boy is tragically dead, it was indeed simply an accident, with no malice nor even negligence".

I have to disagree.

{rant mode on}

While it is certainly true that the event was tragic, an accident, that there was no malice, and that both the boy's family and the driver will have to bear the results of the tragedy for the rest of their lives; still it seems to me that the driver neglected her responsibility to know the laws and rules under which she was permitted to use the road.

There is an old legal dictum which says "ignorance of the law is no excuse". That can be harsh, but it certainly puts the responsibility where it belongs - mercy can come later.

I can understand your reaction, and I'm not trying to be unduly critical - mostly what you say is imminently sensible, and I agree with it wholeheartedly. In this case, however, your argument seems to imply that if I were to come to your country, and continue to drive on the correct (left) side of the road as I know it, rather than the right side of the road, then any results would just be a tragic accident for which I bore no responsibility. Another example would be "I didn't know it was loaded"; or even "I didn't think anyone would find the loaded shotgun" (notice the subtle way I pointed up a possible contradiction here).

I may be grossly over-reacting on this issue, but I believe that a lot of what is going wrong with the world is because more people are no longer accepting responsibility for their actions - are in fact acting irresponsibly. From your writings, I think you probably believe that too. I think perhaps you let your heart get away from your head there for a while. There certainly can be tragic accidents with no-one at fault, but I believe this wasn't one of them.

While you may not have fully thought it through yet, you have become (volunteered to be) one of the opinion-makers of the world, and you also have a responsibility for your actions - including what you write. Isn't the World Wide Web a wondrous thing?

{rant mode off}

Best wishes,

Don Armstrong
Sydney, Australia
darmst@yahoo.com.au

I'm not debating the fact that this woman broke the law. What I'm saying is that she had no intent to do so, and should not be punished for it. The old legal dictum you mention is a pragmatic one. Ignorance of the law is not a defense simply because if it were the government would have to prove in each prosecution that the defendant knew and understood the law that he had broken. Proving knowledge of something is a difficult thing to do, and placing that burden on the prosecution would ensure that few crimes were prosecuted. You are correct in the sense that there is absolutely no doubt that this woman could be prosecuted for breaking the law by passing a stopped school bus.

But "law" and "justice" are not the same thing. In fact, they seldom intersect nowadays. A principle of common law is that, to be guilty of a such a crime, a person must either (a) take an action that he knows to be forbidden, with malicious intent to do harm to another, or (b) act in reckless disregard of the life or safety of another.

It's clear that this woman should not be prosecuted under (a). No one has suggested that she intentionally violated any law, or that she intended to kill the child. As far as (b), the ordinary standard is what action a prudent man would have taken in the circumstances. In Costa Rica, the law requires that drivers who encounter a stopped school bus slow down and proceed with caution. That's exactly what she did, by all accounts. In doing so, she was behaving in accord with the "prudent man" standard by her lights.

Your examples are red herrings. If you come to this country and drive on the wrong side of the road, you are doing so in the clear knowledge that that is wrong. The fact that all of the other traffic is driving on the right is sufficient evidence for any prudent man to realize that driving on the left is not a good idea. Had this woman passed a line of stopped cars before striking the child, a case could be made that she had sufficient example from others to indicate that she should have stopped. But that didn't happen. She simply proceeded cautiously as she would have when driving in Costa Rica.

As far as your shotgun example, any prudent man realizes that a shotgun is a dangerous weapon and that pulling the trigger will discharge it if it is loaded. Anyone who simply picks up a shotgun, points it at someone and pulls the trigger is guilty, at the least, of reckless disregard of that person's life. But to extend your example further (and this was an actual court case), what happens if the person unloads the magazine but does not realize that doing that does not render the weapon safe.

In the case I mentioned, the person had removed the magazine from an automatic pistol, not realizing that he also had to clear the chamber. He pointed the weapon in what appeared to be a safe direction and pulled the trigger. The pistol discharged, and the bullet passed through a wall, killing someone on the other side. Now, it might be argued that someone that ignorant about weapons had no business handling one, but the fact is that that person took what appeared to him to be reasonable precautions. The bad outcome was not due to malice or carelessness on his part.

That, incidentally, is why all of my guns are always loaded and everyone around me is made aware of that fact. People don't accidentally shoot other people with "loaded" guns. It's the "unloaded" ones that are horribly dangerous.

I didn't realize that I had become one of the world's opinion makers. I thought I just wrote some random daily notes that a few hundred people find interesting enough to read regularly.

 


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Thursday, May 20, 1999

Once more, the First Amendment is under attack. This time, it's a bunch of concerned idiots who want laws passed to prevent bomb-making information from being disseminated on the Internet. Laying aside the constitutional objections, consider the practical ones. First, the Internet is global, while legislation is local. No law passed by any legislative body can eliminate this information from the Internet. All it can do is drive one more nail into the coffin of the First Amendment.

Then there's the small matter that the Internet is just one of many sources of such information. I can visit any decent library and find all the information I need to construct a bomb. I can order any number of books from any number of publishers that provide step-by-step instructions. Even the U.S. government disseminates such information. I can order books from the Government Printing Office that describe in detail how to construct a bomb from readily available materials. They're called Field Manuals, and the military produces them in great abundance. For that matter, I don't even have to order these manuals (placing my name on a list somewhere). I can simply visit any of the many Depository Libraries (those that maintain copies of government documents) and read the information at my leisure.

These demands simply reflect the trend to blame anyone except the person who takes the action. Shootings are the fault of the gun manufacturer or of the gun itself. Bombings are the fault of the Internet for making the how-to information too easily available. How much longer can it be before drunk driving is the fault of the automobile? The fault, folks, lies with the person who commits the crime. Period.

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The Register reports that Intel has officially declared the Pentium II dead. It will no longer be available after the end of this year. Of course, we’ve been saying that for some months now. We're now recommending the Celerons for folks who are conscious of bang-for-the-buck; the Pentium III/450 for those who believe that SSE will be well supported and is worth the extra cost; and the Pentium III/500 and /550 for those willing to spend a lot more for the absolute best performance available. We don't currently recommend any AMD offering.

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This from Bo Leuf [bo@leuf.org]:

Apropos "ignorance of the law" and other related issues, you wrote:

"I didn't realize that I had become one of the world's opinion makers."

In the strict sense we are all, individually, opinion makers in this world, assuming we exercise the right to express ourselves in any way to others. Posting public web pages, like all publishing ventures, is a stronger mode of this. I like to believe that we who do this, do so with full appreciation of this fact, but with an innate generosity of wanting to share our views and with the assumption that our readers are responsible enough to handle them, and respond.

That aside, it is interesting that the more-public posters are sometimes taken to task by readers who seem to fear some kind of undue inappropriate influence from expressed personal opinion. Surely individual responsibility, which they often advocate, includes that of being an "informed" reader, capable of agreeing or disagreeing with the opinions expressed? To think otherwise opens the door for creeping "political correctness". To be sure, the poster is responsible for the content, but that is a different stance than what seems to be implied by comments like "you also have a responsibility for your actions - including what you write" -- not so much the words, which express a truism, but more some unspoken criticism for insufficient self-censure.

I find it telling that you bring up "common law" in the context discussed, something firmly rooted, like "justice", in the concept of "individual responsibility". Formal "Law" has this curious tendency to disregard the same concept, building as it does on authority and literal interpretations. Anglo-saxon legal tradition exists in an uneasy balance between the two, seemingly sliding more and more away from the individual and more and more towards authority. Most of us here in Europe are blessed/cursed (depending on your persuation) with an almost total lack of "individual responsibility" in our legal traditions (England and Switzerland being the notable exceptions), and many honestly would not have a clue what this discussion means.

/ Bo

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Bo Leuf bo@leuf.org
The Leuf Project
http://www.leuf.org/

I agree with all of your points. And I'll go further: "responsibility" applies to actions, not to words or thoughts. I remember reading when I was very young about a man who had been arrested for "inciting to riot." It seemed to me then, and it still seems to me, that this man did nothing to deserve being arrested and imprisoned. He was simply exercising his First Amendment rights to free speech. Although a riot did in fact ensue, this man did not participate in it. Those who actually participated should have been (and in fact were) charged with various crimes, including battery, destruction of property, and so on. Actions, in other words.

I think it was Rene Descartes who said, "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." It seems clear to me that the framers of the Constitution took that position, and intended the First Amendment to prohibit the government from restricting speech in any way whatsoever. The First Amendment has been under constant attack since it was written, and now has so many holes that it has become ineffective. I think the death of the First Amendment really began with Oliver Wendell Holmes red herring about "crying fire in a crowded theatre." It's been chipped away at in the name of "National Security" and restricting pornography. People have been charged with crimes for uttering racial epithets. The whole purpose of the First Amendment was to prevent the government from restricting what someone says because they don't like what he is saying. They now have that power, and the First Amendment is effectively dead.

 


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Friday, May 21, 1999

I've been spending a lot of time on the phone and exchanging email with Pournelle the last couple of days, trying to help him do something about his website and mail problems. As things stand now, his site is again accessible, although he's still limited to updating only his major pages. If you'd given up on his site because of all the problems, try it again now. Hopefully, things will be back to normal in the next few days.

Well, I need to get my network backup going, and I have a bunch to do on the books today...

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This from Paul Robichaux [paul@robichaux.net]:

"I think it was Rene Descartes who said, "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Voltaire.
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Paul Robichaux | paul@robichaux.net | http://www.robichaux.net
Robichaux & Associates: programming, writing, teaching, consulting

Duh. I knowed that. Sometimes my fingers don't type what I tell them to. Let's see, was Descartes the "Cogito, ergo sum" guy? For some reason I always have trouble keeping straight all you great writers with French names. I think I once credited your Registry book to Dumas pere.

Duh. I knowed that. Sometimes my fingers don't type what I tell them to. Let's see, was Descartes the "Cogito, ergo sum" guy?

Yep, that was Réné hisself.

For some reason I always have trouble keeping straight all you great writers with French names. I think I once credited your Registry book to Dumas pere.

Hmm. The Administrator In The Iron Mask? The \\MONTECRISTO\COUNT? The mind boggles.

Actually, I think if I got to come back as a French author it'd have to be Victor Hugo. There's an anecdote that claims that a friend interrupted him making love to a chambermaid shortly after his 80th birthday. Hugo is reputed to have said "C'est le génie!" to his friend. Besides, he wasn't a drunk or a monarchist.

Cheers,
-Paul
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This from Francisco Garcia Maceda [maceda@pobox.com]:

¨I agree with all of your points. And I'll go further: "responsibility" applies to actions, not to words or thoughts. I remember reading when I was very young about a man who had been arrested for "inciting to riot." It seemed to me then, and it still seems to me, that this man did nothing to deserve being arrested and imprisoned. He was simply exercising his First Amendment rights to free speech. Although a riot did in fact ensue, this man did not participate in it. Those who actually participated should have been (and in fact were) charged with various crimes, including battery, destruction of property, and so on. Actions, in other words. ¨

Let me see, according to my Random House Dictionary:

Responsibility: 1. the state or fact of being responsible. 2. someone or something for which a person is responsible.

Responsible: 1. answerable or accountable, as for something within ones power or control. 2. involving duties and obligations. 3. being the cause or reason of something. 4. liable for fulfilling a duty.

I put this in writing since I am not English speaking on a regular basis, and maybe I am missing something here. I will always defend your right to free speech, but just as most freedoms it should not be infinite. Remember that your rights and freedoms end where mine begin (and viceversa). Should Charles Manson be free just because he did not pull the trigger? Should Hitler not be accountable for the holocaust just because his signature was never found on an mass execution/deportation order (not necessarily historic fact, but let’s suppose it were true)? He never pulled the trigger either (fact as far as I know). Were I to worship a god that commanded the death of all White or Black or Hispanic and incite my followers to follow the precepts of my god and thus be free of responsibility since I was exercising two fundamental rights: speech and worship? Here comes to mind that Japanese sect.

In your particular example of the riot we should first analyze what this man was saying. Was he opposing the establishment? Was he simply against some order or mandate? or on the other hand was he actually calling to violence and destruction? On the former case I would agree with you, but not on the latter. The makers of DOOM should not be held liable for the Colorado shooting, not the film or music industries since 99.99% of the people that use/hear/view their products don’t actually go around shooting people. However if 20 or 50% did, should they be liable?

Here we have a saying: "Tanta culpa tiene quien mata a la vaca como el que le jala la pata" As guilty is the one that kills the cow as the one that holds it by the leg. As I said above, maybe I am missing something here.

Francisco Garcia Maceda
maceda@pobox.com

Freedom of speech is either absolute or does not exist. You say that "just as most freedoms it should not be infinite". But if it is not infinite, then it is not free. Obviously, if limitations are placed on speech, someone or something has the power to determine what is and is not acceptable speech. As the Romans observed, "Qui custodiet ipsos custodes."

There is a big difference between someone exercising his right to free speech and someone giving orders to subordinates. In the case I mentioned, the man was speaking before a crowd. He had no power to compel action on the part of any of them, so whether or not he directly advocated a riot is immaterial. Each member of that crowd made his own decision. In the cases you mention, the leaders are in a position to compel behavior from subordinates.

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This from Don Armstrong [darmst@yahoo.com.au]:

Well, I raised the word "legal", so I guess I shouldn't complain. Basically I agree with you about current legal systems. However, the point I was attempting to make was that the driver had not informed herself of the local laws of the road, had taken a car out on that road, and was in my opinion morally responsible for the results of that negligence. I started to express this in terms of a "sin of omission", but in retrospect I think it was the positive act of driving (in her unknowledgable state) which was committing the sin.

My examples were not intended as red herrings. I should have qualified the first with "unknowingly", I now realise - I thought it was implicit. The second was the classic case, and lead into the third, which was the first death you had mentioned. I guess that's what set me off: the contrast between your (certainly correct) attitude towards the criminal who left a loaded shotgun lying in some weeds, and the similar result of what I agree was a tragedy, but one for which I believe the driver is responsible. If we can't agree on it we'll just have to agree to disagree.

That's my explanation, or excuse, to Bo as well. I'm no more hobbled by consistency than others, and less so than most. However, when I perceived or imagined it from you I reacted in a disappointed manner - not for insufficient self-censure, but for (in my perception) not being up to your usual standard on an important matter.

Enough on the subject!

Regards,

Don Armstrong
Sydney, Australia
darmst@yahoo.com.au

I think the problem is that you, like most people, associate the legal concepts "legal" and "illegal" with the moral concepts "right" and "wrong", respectively. That's a facile answer, but the unfortunate fact is that there are many things that are illegal that are not morally wrong, just as there are many things that are completely legal but are morally wrong. In fact, there are many times when the morally correct action is very much illegal. I prefer to apply Immanuel Kant's Categorical Imperative.

I can't remember a time when I had anything but contempt for the law. Laws are made by men. Unfortunately, in the United States at least, the men who make our laws are the least suited to do so properly. Politicians in this country are rightly perceived by the majority of the people as being the scum of the earth. I have no interest in any of the laws these people pass. I obey their laws only to the extent that (a) a particular law happens to co-incide with my perception of correct behavior, and (b) that the product of the penalty for breaking it and the likelihood of being caught while doing so exceeds the inconvenience of obeying it.

And I'm by no means alone. Everyone in this country breaks numerous laws every day, without necessarily even being aware that they are doing so. The unfortunate result of having too many laws, and of having them made by stupid, evil, corrupt lawmakers, is that people develop contempt for all laws. Reasonable laws are obeyed by the vast majority of people, but unreasonable laws simply dilute the value of the reasonable laws. When you pass a law setting a 55 MPH speed limit on a road whose free-market speed limit is 75 MPH, you simply cause people who instinctively understand that that's a stupid law to become lawbreakers. When you make it illegal to buy a toilet that actually works, you simply cause otherwise law-abiding people to become lawbreakers simply to get a functional toilet.

That woman behaved in a reasonable manner which had an unexpectedly bad outcome. To say that she should be punished or that she is somehow more responsible for the outcome simply because some idiot passed a law that she was not aware of is simply not on.

 


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Saturday, May 22, 1999

I did my standard network backup yesterday, to the Seagate Travan TR4 drive installed in my resource server. As usual, the drive spent almost no time streaming, and was constantly backing up and restarting. The throughput when backing up the local drives is about 38 MB/min, but on network drives it drops to 15 or 20 MB/min. Although I can't imagine that anything but the network itself or Windows NT is at fault, I decided as an experiment to try a backup with compression turned off, on the theory that perhaps the slow (Pentium/133) processor in the resource server was having problems compressing data in a timely manner. No difference with compression on or off, so that theory gets pitched. But at least it was worth doing the experiment. I suppose I really should go out and buy a 100BaseT hub. All my network cards and cabling are 100BaseT-capable, so swapping in the new hub should be the job of a few minutes.

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This from Chuck Waggoner [waggoner@gis.net]:

Haven't had time to write lately, but REALLY appreciate your clear, reasoned writing on laws and politics. Please keep it up. Hopefully, it will help more folks regain their senses.

You mentioned recently that you had gotten a First Phone many years ago. I only got to Second--took the test several times while in High School, but never could pass both Elements III and IV together, and gave up when I finally passed III but not IV. Although I was headed for a career in radio, I got sidetracked with a part-time job in TV program production, stuck with that, and ended up never needing the engineering license. Did you ever work in Broadcasting?

Also, any clue as to when we might expect the 'Good Enough' book?

Thanks for the kind words. I try, but I suspect we're on a downward slope that will not end short of a crash. As far as the phone license, I got it back in the middle 1970's. I never worked in broadcasting per se, but I was a ham operator, and did get involved in running the college radio station.

As far as the book, things are progressing slower than we'd like, but they are progressing. This is the first hardware book I've written. I was used to doing first drafts on software books at about a chapter per week. With hardware, I have to spend more time on the phone with vendors and building and testing stuff than I can writing. Also, doing two similar books, I thought there would be a great deal more synergy than there turns out to be. I hope PC Hardware in a Nutshell will be complete this fall and the book Pournelle and I are doing not too long thereafter.

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This from Bo Leuf [bo@leuf.com]:

The various attitudes here, somewhat pushed to the limit:

Example, driver A hits pedestrian B at location X, unmarked crossing.

1. The ultimately responsible approach (e.g. Swiss): there is always *someone* responsible, an individual somewhere; be it A or B, or perhaps workman C who should have put a warning sign at location X, or someone else. An extensive and lengthy investigative effort goes into identifying this responsible person, the degree of responsibility, and appropriate punitive measures.

2. The collective information approach (e.g. Swedish): person A was perhaps a cause (in motion, driving), but on the other hand person B was clearly in the wrong location at the wrong time (got hit, right?), but on the third hand might not the accident have been caused due to a lack of information of the risks of driving, or for that matter walking? Anyway, B might have been lacking in attention due to unfortunate upbringing. A studyleads to a law being passed making it compulsory for drivers to stop at marked crossings if there is anyone within 2.5 meters of the crossing curb. (This is ignored by 99% of the drivers, including police, evidence of more unfortunate upbringing.) Furthermore, all households receive information folders during the next year that set out in meticulous detail the extra questions that must be answered to pass the test for obtaining a drivers license, and reminding all that drunken driving is hazardous (missing the point that most accidents are caused by sober drivers who already have their licenses). The cost of getting a license is doubled, and a new 50% tax is put on gas, just to assert a bit of damping control on the amount of traffic.

3. The free-market approach (US): relatives to B sue the bejeezus out of A, who in turn countersues in a class action case the car manufacturer for failing to have exterior airbags for wayward pedestrians. Lawyer fees boost the GNP, and cars get more expensive (ditto). Meanwhile, a federal law is passed requiring background checks on all prospective car owners before they are allowed to purchase a car, boosting car thefts by 37% in one year (Again, more cars get sold).

/ Bo

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"Bo Leuf" bo@leuf.com
Leuf fc3 Consultancy
http://www.leuf.com/

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This from Robin Gould [rgould@ihcc.org]:

RE: that problem I had last week of having a newly built BDC join the network: problem solved. After 3 different brands of NIC's, several reinstallations, lots of cable and hub testing, and prayer, I finally tried a not-so-obvious solution: I plugged the NIC into another PCI slot. This isn't supposed to make a difference, right? PnP and PCI 2.1 and all that? But it instantly cured the problem. (Incidentally, this was the only card I had in the machine, so I thought it didn't matter. Was I wrong.)

Anyway, problem solved, Bob's your uncle as J.P. would say. Moral: when Plug and Play works, it's wonderful; when it doesn't, it makes you want to bang your head against a wall.

Robin
rgould@ihcc.org

Yes, I shouild have thought of that. That's one of the downsides to the fact that I work mostly with very new equipment constantly. PnP didn't have much to do with your problem. It's possible (although unlikely) that you simply had a bad PCI slot. What's more likely is that the card was a bus master and the original slot did not support bus mastering. Nowadays, all of the PCI slots on most motherboards support bus mastering. On older motherboards, that was often not the case. My guess is that yours is such a motherboard, and that you simply had a bus master network card installed in a slot that didn't support bus mastering.

 


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Sunday, May 23, 1999

The usual house cleaning, laundry, etc. today. Not much to write about.

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Tomorrow, I'm going to start a Current Topics page, where I'll ask for your help. The Current Topics home page will link to pages on various subjects. Unlike this page, those pages will not be chronologically-oriented. I'll put them up and add material to them as it arrives. I may write an intro for a given page and then throw it open for contributions by readers. The pages will remain as resources organized by topic for convenient reference.

I'll use these pages, among other things, to learn more about things I'm writing about. For example, some time back we had a great on-going discussion about CD-R and CD-RW drives, IDE versus SCSI interfaces, incompatibility of various media types, etc.. That material is still accessible via the Search function, but it would be better organized in one place. This idea is similar to what Pournelle does on his site with some topics, but I intend to make this page more structured and formal. Also, for now at least, I plan to restrict these pages to discussion of computer-oriented topics rather than politics and so on. I hope all of you will choose to participate both by reading and by contributing to the pages on topics you know something about. I'll maintain a permanent name for each page, so they will be bookmarkable.

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This from Francisco Garcia Maceda [fremen@pobox.com]:

I have always been wary of absolutes and infinites outside of the realm of mathematics, so I can't support ANY freedom as such. I have been trying to find one:

Life (if we equate this right as a freedom): some criminals deserve to die (rapists and murderers); some people do not deserve to have children, etc. People should be able to end their life when and if they want.

Cult: with some religions claiming a right to human sacrifice and/or some such other niceties? No way.

Arms: since this is only contemplated as a right in the US there is no need to dig deeper.

The fact that someone or something has to have the power to determine what is and is not acceptable within one's rights and freedoms is a perfect example of our evolutionary state as humans. We are imperfect, fallible, greedy, etc, etc. Had we reached a state where we could respect everybody the same way we want them to respect us, then this conversation would not be taking place.

I strongly disagree with your notion that a man speaking in front of a crowd has no power. Now let's remember that the pen is mightier than the sword. Both the written and spoken word can be very powerful. The fact that an orator compels a group of people to harm another by using only his wit makes him responsible of the acts that some of this people may commit. By following his "recommendations" they are becoming subordinates. The followers of Charles Manson could have escaped before committing those crimes; many wehrmacht (sp?) soldiers refused to follow illegal orders (some had to pay with their life for it). Whenever you do something YOU have to make YOUR OWN decision.

Some men have been mighty powerful with their speech (Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Ghandi, etc.).

Francisco Garcia Maceda
maceda@pobox.com

A "right" that is not absolute and unbounded is not a right at all. It is a privilege, which may be modified or withdrawn at any time by the issuing authority. Bo Leuf observed several days ago that Europeans have difficulty understanding the way we look at things, just as we have difficult understanding how Europeans look at things. In Europe, the rights of individuals have always been subordinated to the rights of states. The US was created on exactly the opposite principle, although our government has been doing its best for at least 150 years to take those rights away from us. In essence, Europeans have no rights and never have had. Certainly, some states, notably Britain, have been better historically at formalizing respect for individual rights (e.g. the Magna Carta), but even Britain puts the state above individuals, as D Notices and the fact that their constitution is unwritten illustrates.

As far as the power of speech, I was not debating that. I was simply saying that advocating an action and performing that action are two entirely different things. For example, I abhor everything the Ku Klux Klan, Nazi Party, and similar organizations stand for, but I will vigorously defend their right to speak freely and to advocate violence against blacks, Jews, Catholics, and others they consider worthy of their hatred. Despicable though I may consider their opinions to be, they have a right to express them. If they attempt to put those beliefs into action by lynching a black person or burning a synagogue, that's another matter. If they try to do that, I'll happily shoot the sons of bitches.

 

 

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